00:00how do you reflect now on your bachelor nation experience in 2026 what's your relationship with
00:06those memories uh it's i it has changed so much like the first three years i was always so mad
00:11because i felt so manipulated by producers and i was like how could you do that to somebody and
00:17now i'm like it's a business caitlin and it it ended up being such a pivotal moment for me like
00:21i used to be like i hate roses and then i got a rose tattooed on me because i was
00:25like that show
00:26did wonders for my career i'm living like and both can exist i can like see certain things that i
00:32was
00:32like that is so wrong but at the same time it was tv i signed up for it and it
00:38was a really hard time
00:39after it was very dark time for me but at the same time again who goes through something really hard
00:44and doesn't grow from it and then now looking back 10 years later i'm like i'm so grateful i'm so
00:51grateful and what's good is you used it for what you could do you know what i mean like you
00:54made the
00:54most of it so in the dark times you were able to be like well what do i want now
00:58and it was scary
00:59to do that because i didn't it's very easy to lose yourself in the world that this that kind of
01:05industry and i just was like how do i stay me while also like actually yes using that show as
01:14a
01:14platform while also staying humble being grateful but like having my sass and being true to like hey
01:20what you guys did here was not right yeah and i've just been really conscious of that and uh
01:26i don't know how i did it but i feel like there's a couple times where i would it was
01:30a slippery slope
01:31where i'd be like oh i think i'm doing that for attention and that happens we all do for attention
01:35sometimes i still do it's it's not that i'm not but i just like how how are we wanting that
01:41attention are we wanting it because we're missing something else in our lives or are we wanting it
01:44because this is fun very fair question to ask