00:00So that certainly will be a political line that Yogi Adityanath has given where he says
00:06yeh nahi ayodhya hai, that this is a new ayodhya under his regime, which has a grand round
00:14temple, which has infrastructure, which has celebrations of this nature, which has the
00:18ports of being celebrated ahead of the Pavali.
00:23Is the battle line drawn here? You'll have Samajwadi party chief Akhilesh Yadav Badri Narayan
00:33speak about Chanda Chodi. Here will be Yogi Adityanath counting the development work that he has
00:40done for ayodhya. Do you think that will be the narrative going forward, particularly in
00:45this entire belt?
00:47Maria, I think you are very right. During the entire wiki election, this narrative will
00:52continue. And it has two phases, two aspects. Like one is promoted by the Hilesh Yadav, in
01:00which he will try to bring the Chanda Chodi issue and try to tell that they are not protecting
01:06the Ram temple in a good way, some management issue, etc. On the other hand, Yogi Adityanath
01:12will bring it as a marker of the entire Indian nation. And secondly, the issue of community.
01:24Third is the issue of cultural development, thinking development and culture. So, they
01:30will say that this is a new ayodhya which is given by Yogi Adityanath. This new ayodhya
01:39is involved on the basis of the memory of the old ayodhya, which was a memory of a Ram, which
01:46includes everyone. So, this is the challenge in this election, that how to give a message
01:52to include everyone. And both will try to do that. There is Madwadi Party in his own way,
01:57and the BJP is in one way. And I think we all know that BJP is much, much ahead in
02:04this
02:04discourse because they have acquired trust value in using culture for inclusion or culture
02:13for opening, making culture for development. And Hindutua is one of the line of that. And
02:22Hinesh is also trying to injure in the discourse. And entering, but another way, this is not
02:29a direct way. And he is also banging Krishna, he means the Madwadi Party, and also Ram
02:35issue of regional management and all. But Ram and Krishna will continue as a discourse in
02:45this election too.
02:49Yes. Few minutes ago, in fact, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has also released his audio message
02:55ahead of Diwali. Let's listen in to what the Prime Minister said.
03:04Wipavali
03:06is also sold for a dead country's commons.
03:12So, now you can do that
03:54So tomorrow again Prime Minister will be at another
03:58border post celebrating Diwali with Javan's tradition that he started in 2014 and he
04:06has continued ever since sending a message that when the country is in this festive mood
04:13then those who are guarding our borders need to be celebrated and the Prime Minister stands
04:18with them as they stay away from their families guarding our border post.
04:23Let's listen in to now the sound that is coming in from Ground Zero here in Ayodhya.
04:28And I'll be coming back to speaking to our guests who are joining us.
05:21Professor Badri Narayan, this certainly will be considered a big achievement of Yogi Aditya
05:28Nath.
05:28You know that reclaiming of cultural spaces, reclaiming of history and reclaiming of heritage.
05:34Something that he has always worn like a crown.
05:38You know talking about how he has restored the glory of Ayodhya to its glory and ensured that
05:45there is development efforts as well.
05:47But when it is about this competitive narrative setting, there is also Akhilesh Yadav talking
05:55about what happened in 2024, month of May, when soon after the consecration ceremony in
06:02January, when the Lok Sabha elections were held, this constituency went to the Samajwadi
06:08Party.
06:09The Samajwadi Party won from this constituency.
06:11So the sense was that yes, that may have been achieved, but when it is about the real development,
06:18that the real beneficiaries of this place, it's not the people of Ayodhya who have profited
06:25from this development, but those from outside have.
06:28So do you think that's where Yogi Aditya Nath may find it tricky to respond?
06:34I think, Maria, during these few years, people of Ayodhya have understood that both have a close
06:43link.
06:43If any development takes place, it benefits outsiders, but also reciters.
06:49Because it distributes the resources to everyone.
06:53So if Ayodhya emerged like this, yes, it's right that many people, entrepreneurs outside
07:00can come and have their own business, but it may also include the local entrepreneurs,
07:07and give them life to you, infrastructure, like that, but you know, every development has
07:12its own pain, and very pains can be capitalized by politicians, that may harness the votes.
07:21And that, this kind of argument works in the election, and also combined with the various
07:27social engagement issues by the party and the opposition, and that may create a difficult
07:33condition for the JP.
07:34But now, they are much, much ahead of that situation.
07:37You must have seen, they have, they are applying cultural engineering to, and also social engineering.
07:44Samajwadi party in our position is mostly trying to stick to the social engineering.
07:48Professor Padreen Nara, I'm going to come back to you in just a few seconds.
