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Four picks last week. A trip to Madrid this week. Carl Dukes and Abe Gordon debate if Michael Penix Jr. has to completely "wow" Falcons fans to prove he's the real franchise guy, or if consistency and execution are all that matter against the Bengals.
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00:00most guys are able to snap back and come right back from it and it doesn't affect their next
00:04performance but as i said you know to abe and day day if he throws another pick on uh sunday
00:10and there's a very good chance he could it's the nfl guys you're gonna be wondering oh there's
00:15lingering effects when it could just be somebody made a play or it's a bad read by him but he
00:21was
00:21talking with daniel flick uh over there and and the media about what he did and and tell me what
00:27you think abe because he said they flew obviously the next day so we're talking about sunny remember
00:34they left tuesday so sunday's the game they get back home monday and then they were literally on
00:41a plane to head overseas on tuesday and he said it was hard to watch talking about the film but
00:45at the
00:45same time that's what it comes with um you still got to look at it even though you know games
00:51like
00:51that you don't really want to watch but you've got to correct some things that need to be corrected so
00:56i'm going to stop right there because you said and you felt like these were just bad throws
01:02this wasn't him being baited into some coverage and this was just him making bad decisions decisions
01:09not even throws okay and well it resulted in bad throws though yes in terms of a bad result of
01:16the
01:17throw but i don't want to confuse it with it's raining so hard it's a bad throw they weren't bad
01:22throws he could throw the ball i don't believe the interceptions were because he couldn't grip
01:27the ball or didn't know where it was going that's that's the difference between it was a bad throw
01:31as in he lost control of it versus he had control of the throw and threw it into a bad
01:36situation
01:37he says uh spent the next day doing all of our corrections and then after that
01:41it was moving on to cincinnati so he says he's never done four picks we know that but again this
01:47is
01:47the follow-up now that they're in madrid uh and talking about this and he said you know um
01:54johan dottson who joined us earlier this week before he left you know before they left on their
01:58trip he said pennix is super even keeled he's never too high never too low and he says i have
02:04no doubt
02:04in my mind that he'll bounce back it's he's just that kind of guy and uh that's the way he
02:09goes about
02:10his business we were talking about the makeup and demeanor of michael pennix now look i don't even know if
02:15you guys feel a certain kind of way about the makeup and demeanor ultimately this comes down to
02:21performance right regardless of how he sounds what he says whatever whatever your hang-up may be
02:27if he wins nobody's going to care about all that other stuff but when you have bad games like this
02:33and then if you don't bounce back to a's point about like if he has another one of these games
02:37how can you say he's going to be the future franchise quarterback that's part of the makeup
02:41and that's why i think this game is also important the makeup and demeanor of an individual
02:45after failure not success is what i'm curious about that's why i'm putting onus on this look i hope he
02:53throws four touchdowns and we blow doors against the bingles it would make me feel a lot better
02:56trust me my video will be a lot happier on sunday but i can't sit here and tell you that
03:03i know that
03:04about him because i'm not sure about the demeanor and the makeup so a couple of things you said it's
03:09about the response after failure yes and not success i disagree tell me why because you need
03:14to respond to success too because you had success and then you showcase failure and we would have
03:21felt a lot nicer if the response to that game against the 49ers the response to nfc offensive
03:26player of the week and all of that came with oh look stacking performances not the other way around
03:32and i don't disagree with you you also have to respond to failure as well but you can't always
03:37only be responding to failure it'd be okay to respond to success at times and you know what's
03:42funny is i was watching that niner game live and i don't know why this impacted me the way it
03:49did
03:50i don't know if it was the field mic or what was going on with the audio in the 49ers
03:56game but it
03:57sounded like we heard a lot more of penics in the huddle at the line doing things and i thought
04:04to
04:04myself this is before three touchdowns and before the nfc offensive player of the week i said boy
04:09listen to the sound of this guy he sounds like a dude he sounds like a quarterback he sounds like
04:17a franchise dude i mean command of the offense calling stuff out and maybe i'm a sucker for stupid
04:23stuff like that no it's great but it sounded really strong yeah played well go through that and then
04:30obviously that leads to what it was last week in in in the downport and i don't want to pretend
04:35like
04:36the downport had nothing to do with it but i also think that he could throw the ball of the
04:41early
04:41interceptions were just bad reads whatever say whatever you want flush it do whatever you think
04:48can be done none of that matters from the final whistle on sunday until opening kickoff this week
04:56none of what you have said to me or to the media not me but to to media none of
05:02it none of it matters
05:03you have to show me that the four interceptions is not going to impact you and by the way it
05:09doesn't
05:10mean he has to be perfect no here's the other thing you brought it up he could throw an interception
05:13that we are allowances for hey that defensive guy made a big play or man tough break for penics it
05:22bounced off the receiver's hand like he doesn't have to play a perfect performance we don't need
05:26but see our 158.3 here i agree but see that's the difference none of that happened last week he
05:33was
05:33throwing directly to defenders and not seeing guys see to your point if somebody makes a play where
05:38bounces off of pits his hands and all of a sudden they they get a tip ball that's not his
05:42fault right
05:43that's a different even this week where he needs a response it's not his fault that's a different feel
05:47of a of an interception last week it was who the hell you throwing it to ancelone yeah well he
05:53got
05:54to know him well leading receiver in the game are you telling me though because i gotta read this to
05:58you because this is also what penic said today um when asked about this whole you know hey overcoming
06:03the situation and and getting us back on the right track he says it's just want to quote i want
06:08to be
06:09great i want to win football games for this team and whenever you have a game like last week you
06:14kind
06:14of point the finger at yourself for me i never want it to be all on me for some of
06:20the things
06:21that happen so i always want to be the best version of myself for this team i say that to
06:25say that's
06:25what i want to hear like you're saying it doesn't matter until sunday and yes performance overrides
06:31all right right but that's what i want to hear what i don't want to hear is man i can't
06:36believe i threw
06:36four can i tell you what like lingering on that stuff you can't do that and so for me like
06:41i think he's
06:42in the right mind space i'll tell you why i think he's gonna be all right what what want to
06:46is
06:46irrelevant it bothers you yeah why yeah because i want to run a five minute mile and i can't do
06:51it
06:51physically it's not happening yeah but he's what to drive and all that crap is great he's working
06:57you have to do it he's you have to fix issues admit to us it was a bad read wasn't
07:04a bad throw
07:05i got confused that can't happen it's not want to we all want to play a perfect game host the
07:12perfect show put in a perfect shift eat the perfect meal cook the perfect meal whatever it is want to
07:19execution man it's about the execution and on the field last sunday whatever was going on with him
07:26the execution was poor again i that doesn't mean it carries over and maybe he learned some things but
07:32want to is not it you got to figure out why the mistakes were made and fix it uh how
07:39can i make
07:39this practice better things like that is what he said when i am trying to uh look at myself and
07:44go
07:44back reflect on things that i've done and just trying to find ways to get better throughout the
07:47week how can i make this practice better how can i be great at practice and much better than i
07:52was
07:52last week this is just some of the things he's talking about the point is that this is one of
07:56those
07:57moments where we're about to find out yeah that's that's what i've been telling you guys all week
08:01like some of you are like it's no big deal it may not be but we're gonna find out a
08:05couple of things
08:06and his approach and how he comes out and plays and that command like you just talked about is he
08:13the guy we saw against the 49ers right maybe so let me ask you then it is i know that
08:20whatever
08:20happens sunday in madrid against the bangles is not this is what he is or isn't but now after great
08:29performance bad worst performance of his career it feels like this is the most important fulcrum game
08:35of his career and again i'm not saying performing well in this one game means he is your franchise
08:41and you move forward nor does necessarily a subpar performance bury him completely although that's
08:47probably closer than the other aspect of it but does it not feel like this is the most important in
08:52terms of convincing fans leadership the team coaching matt ryan arthur blank that he can be
08:59the guy this is the most important performance coming up of his career am i crazy to say that
09:05no and that's why i said the failure thing matters yeah like that's why i feel like how he responds
09:11to
09:11this the player of the week thing was a nice accolade and certainly it made us feel good he disappointed
09:16us though because you went right back to not knowing because of the last week performance so this is
09:21all right you know what let me show you guys i can be consistent and yeah i do feel that
09:26way
09:26and by the way here's the other crazy part about this and we'll talk more about this as far as
09:30the
09:30falcon report at five o'clock this could also be a game and i said this day day you don't
09:37have to throw
09:37it 35 times if bijon goes off like i think he can in this game because of the lack of
09:43run defense
09:44that the bingles possess he could have a mediocre game and still shine that's what's crazy he doesn't have
09:50to do all this about pennix pennix well he wasn't that good in in the san fran game he threw
09:56three
09:56touchdowns which is great the numbers overall weren't spectacular he hasn't wowed you at all
10:02has he wowed you um and it goes for any game and he's played in yeah i'm going back the
10:07answer is no
10:08right what's his high in passing this season 256 he hasn't wowed you no okay but i don't i don't
10:15necessarily need to be wowed to believe in him yes you do yes you do as fans we need that
10:21because
10:21we need to know he has he possesses that in moments when it matters okay and so you're telling me
10:28three
10:28three touchdowns you're acting like it's no big deal that's my point but what i can't if if you're not
10:34going to wow me that's totally fine but what you can't do is completely disgust me
10:41sorry i don't disagree but that's happened at times i don't need the wow i don't need the
10:47showcase but you can't you can't do what you did last you want that you know what i'll tell you
10:51this
10:51i want consistency you do but bears fans feel so much better about caleb williams because of what
10:57we're talking about we're gonna watch thursday night football trevor lawrence is he wowing people
11:04i think he's playing the best football of his career that's not what i asked i think yes for me
11:10i think he's playing the best football of his career he's been really really good yeah and i
11:13think he's got a lot of talent around him and i think they let the defense ride and all that's
11:16great i don't know if he's really wowing me but he's getting the job done you know he's not doing
11:22having just severe drop-offs week to week this is true and i'll tell you who else is wowing me
11:26the burrow guy that he's doing it all right but he's been doing that when he's healthy