00:00This movie shows us the American foreign intervention that changed the fate of other countries.
00:08It is a critic of a certain way of exercising power that continues to this day.
00:17Yes, when I wrote the script it was much, in my head it was all about what happened in the
00:251970s
00:27and the CIA's involvement in the destabilizing and the overthrow of the elected government there, as we know.
00:35But it's only since the film was sort of finished, I think, that the connections to the modern day feel
00:43so much more palpable.
00:46So it's very interesting to see what a modern audience thinks of it or the connections that would be made.
00:52In some ways, history keeps repeating itself, and in some ways we need to find ways to stop that happening.
01:01Yes.
01:03This movie is also about guilt, an emotion that should stop us from repeating the same mistakes.
01:13Do you think that we live in a time that no longer practices guilt and therefore no longer really takes
01:23responsibility for our actions?
01:26Good question.
01:28I practice guilt a lot, even though I don't really do anything bad.
01:35But I'm not sure.
01:37That may be...
01:38I don't think politicians practice guilt enough, and they're the ones who should be practicing it all the time.
01:48But, yeah, I'm not sure if things are worse in that way now than they used to be.
01:53But I hope not. I have hoped that things will get better.
01:59Malkovich's character deals with pain, regret, and choices he can no longer change.
02:07Looking back at your lives and your careers, what is your take?
02:12I think we constantly reflect on the meaning of our existence, you know, and go...
02:20We're theater queens.
02:22Yeah, we're people, we're trying to find relevance in something that, you know, sometimes...
02:30Basically, they pay John and I to be children in front of a camera or on stage.
02:35So, it's a silly job to some extent, although we take it very seriously.
02:40So, I don't really know.
02:41So, when you really have some self-reflection, it can be...
02:46I'd rather not.
02:48Me, I don't really reflect on the past.
02:54I've had an incredible life, which I'm very thankful for.
02:59I've made a million mistakes, but I don't have enough interest in myself to really reflect on my life, to
03:12be honest.
03:13I just try and live it until I don't anymore.
03:18This movie deals with saints and faults.
03:22What is the greatest fault of your time, of our time?
03:27Of empathy, maybe?
03:28Lack of false arrogance, an absence of humility, maybe?
03:37Boy, that's a big one.
03:39Yeah, yeah.
03:40I would agree with all, you know.
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