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07:55but the two options will remain open.
07:58But if it is dominated by kinetics,
08:01the war is dominated by the war,
08:04then it seems that it will have to break the whole piece of paper
08:09and the spillover effect,
08:12it doesn't seem that no one is protected in the area of the world,
08:17but it seems that many groups
08:20who have been abstained,
08:23whether it is in Iraq or Lebanon,
08:26whether it is in Syria,
08:28all the war will become a part of the war.
08:30So how do we look at that?
08:32What will it be?
08:34And what kind of security measures do we need to adapt?
08:39Whatever in Middle East, Afghanistan, Pakistan,
08:44all the wars,
08:45the regional wars,
08:47it is a casecading effect,
08:49these spillovers are happening.
08:51Middle East war,
08:52you can see Iran's contact,
08:55Iran's in Iraq,
08:56and then the American application,
09:00and then the USIS and KP,
09:03different phenomena,
09:05Lebanon has already linked to Iran.
09:08It is with Cease Fire,
09:09which is linked to Iran,
09:13which is the regional peace,
09:15which is the regional peace,
09:16which will be activated.
09:18It clearly reflects that it is an interconnected war.
09:22If Iran is destabilized,
09:23we are already the victim of Afghanistan's instability.
09:27Afghanistan's instability,
09:30we are the victim of Afghanistan.
09:31We are the victim of Afghanistan.
10:07It is impacting not only Egypt,
10:24not only other regional countries,
10:25but also Europe.
10:27France,
10:28or UK,
10:29these people are considering
10:30to give sport to Saudi Arabia.
10:32primarily,
10:33not that they are stability
10:35and worried,
10:36or instability,
10:37or fear,
10:38they are in instability.
10:38They are the issue of economic pressures.
10:41The victims of the country are,
10:41the political pressure.
10:44America's objectives,
10:44the economic pressure
10:45,
10:45if the Trump's rise
10:47is very good,
10:47or if the job is the amount of violence,
10:51the population's influence,
10:52which is the political pressure.
10:52In the in-between our community
10:53the building on the Iran side,
10:55the building on the Lebanon,
10:56the building on the Earth,
10:57the building on the earth,
10:57and the wall of Gaza,
10:58the building on theha,
10:58which is the economic pressure.
11:01Of course,
11:02I didn't say that
11:03there are some sort of occasions
11:04that we are dealing with.
11:07And the whole region will take place in the area.
11:10And then the chaos, which I was talking about before,
11:13chaos is always very dangerous.
11:15Chaos inside, there are such forces that lead to a threat
11:19which then become a threat of future.
11:21Look, before the Taliban, Al-Qaeda,
11:24there are more than 20-25 prescribed organizations
11:28which are in Afghanistan.
11:29Who controls them?
11:31Who creates them?
11:32Who equip them?
11:33Who use them?
11:35Who pursue their political objectives?
11:37Nobody knows.
11:38They are always in grey.
11:39And this plausible deniability of the possibility of a future.
11:41Even structured states are used as lead instruments.
11:45So, this conflict will spread.
11:49Mr. Zahid, you talked about Afghanistan.
11:52But I'm going to go back and break from Afghanistan.
11:58Obviously, this is a very big issue on our borders.
12:01Which is also seen in some way.
12:04I'm going to go back and break from Afghanistan.
12:18A lot of people in Afghanistan.
12:20My friends have seen in Afghanistan.
12:22por F . . . . . .
12:24This phenomenon is a phenomenon which is unsettled on the border and now it is seen in its other forms
12:31in the other forms.
12:32We have seen that the Kuram-Dande-Patton or Paktia-Waziristan border, or Torkham or Jalalaabad border.
12:43We have seen this again a escalatory form and some days from firing and clashes.
12:50So this inter-connectivity of conflict and the Taliban's side of it, how do you see this?
13:00Pakistan is very clear. I think Pakistan has a principle of strength.
13:06That is clear reflection on how important it is.
13:13Pakistan's issue is not with Afghanistan.
13:15In Afghanistan, we also see that unfortunately, if you have seen the Mullah Shereen,
13:22they are seeing the BLA leadership, they are seeing the Nourvali,
13:28and already there are elements that are already there.
13:33So this means that they are unfortunately providing them the required sport.
13:38Maybe political, logistics, operational, and collaboration cooperation.
13:44Pakistan is very disappointed with Afghanistan at this time.
13:47Not Afghanistan, but from the Taliban regime.
13:50Then Afghanistan's people are under a lot of stress.
14:02They are not planning any activity for political activities.
14:06They are not doing political activities for Afghanistan.
14:08They are not doing well-being in their social economic domains.
14:12They are also victims.
14:22But of course you can't exclude your own society.
14:27They are alsosaying people.
14:29There are many of us who will under the border on Afghanistan.
14:30The mentoring of Afghanistan, the northern alliance on the Northern Alliance,
14:32the strategic mind of the people,
14:34the strategic mind of the people who are competing,
14:36which are the stability and the stability that are strong.
14:37And so I want to try to stay fagganist,
14:38which is strong for Pakistan,
14:40this is why you want to do.
14:46The one point of Pakistan on Pakistan is a clear solution to you.
14:52That is if you areёрtiful.
14:53You can include them all of your intellectuals to yourüyorum people.
14:55You can include them.
14:57control کریں اور یہ پاکستان ماننے کو تیار نہیں ہے کہ آپ کے control
15:01میں نہیں ہے unfortunately صرف control میں نہ ہوتے تو شاید کچھ ماننے
15:05کی بات ہو جائے لیکن جس طریقے سے اب بھی آپ tax کرتے ہیں آپ کے
15:09افغانستان کی جو post ہیں جس طریقے سے وہاں سے پاکستان کی civil
15:12عبادیوں پر firing کی جاتی ہے ان کو نشانہ بنایا جاتا ہے اور وہ
15:17بھی بلوجستان اور خیبر پختونخواہ کے اندر so called جو پختون لوگ
15:22ہیں وہ بچارے وہ بھی وہی main victim ہو رہے ہیں اس وار کا
15:26تو پاکستان نے بڑی clear policy دے دیا no talks with the terrorist
15:32افغانست regional countries کو بھی چاہیے international countries کو بھی
15:35چاہیے اور پاکستان بھی کوشش کر رہا ہے کہ وہ emphasize کریں
15:38طالبان کے اوپر کہ وہ باتشیت کے ذریعے اور جو پاکستان کی only
15:42demand ہے اس کو اس کو پورا کریں ابھی آپ نے مارک روبیو کا دیکھ
15:45لیا بیان بھی دیکھ لیا امریکہ سے کہ انہوں نے کہا جی پاکستان
15:48victim ہو رہا ہے اور پاکستان کو نشانہ بنائے جا رہا ہے افغانستان
15:51سے اور جو terrorism کے ایکٹس ہیں پاکستان کے اندر وہ برداشت وہ
15:56صحیح نہیں ہے ان کو reject کیا انہوں نے regret کیا کہ یہ افغانستان
16:00کی سرزمین سے ہو رہا ہے اور پاکستان already unfortunately victim
16:05ہے اس وار کا جو افغانستان میں بیس سال لڑی گئی آخری soldier اور
16:10آخری جہاز تو امریکہ کا اور نیٹو کا افغانستان سے چلا گیا لیکن
16:15war is still there those weapons of 7.1 billion logistics جو وہاں پہ
16:20military logistics چھوڑ گئے وہ weapons آج بھی بول رہے ہیں more than
16:2563-64 weapons پاکستان میں terrorist acts کے اندر ایسے پکڑے گیا
16:29جو نیٹو کوٹڈ تھے پاکستان کے اندر جو بھی terrorist act ہوتا ہے
16:34اس میں کوئی نہ کوئی طالبان شامل ہوتا ہے even ابھی بلوچستان
16:37میں جو application ہو رہی اس میں ہی ہے آپ دیکھتے ہیں کہ طالبان
16:40جو ہیں وہ بی ایل اے کے ساتھ مل کے کروائیاں کر رہے ہیں تو
16:44this is very unfortunate پاکستان اپنے principal stance پہ کھڑا ہے
16:47ڈی جی آس پی آر نے بڑا clearly بتا دی ہے otherwise they will have to pay
16:51the cost borders already banned ہیں پاکستان جو ہے retaliate کرتا ہے اور جب بھی
16:57ایکٹ آف ٹیررزم ہوگا پاکستان retaliate کرے گا تو i think this is not
17:01very encouraging situation but afghanistan کو will have to amend their approach
17:06اور یہ جی political change ان کو اپنے اندر لانی پڑے گی جی
17:11بہت شکریہ آپ کے ٹائم کے زاہد صاحب ناظرین گفتگو آپ نے مہمان کی
17:14جو ہے وہ سنی obviously سارے فرنس پر جو گلوبل فرنس ہیں اس پر
17:19ایک escalatory situation تو ہے ہی لیکن چیزیں کچھ زیادہ encouraging
17:23نہیں ہیں جس طرح زاہد صاحب نے بھی جو ہے وہ conclude کیا which
17:27calls for the fact ہے کہ ملک کے اندر جو ہے وہ stability اب ناغذیر
17:31جو ہے وہ بن چکی ہے کیونکہ باہر کا جو ریجنل ماہول ہے یا
17:34گلوبل ماہول ہے اس میں conflict بھی نظر آ رہا ہے
17:37that is why it is more important کہ اندر کی environment کو اور بھی
17:41جیل کیا جائے اور اس سیناریو کے اندر obviously کچھ چیزیں
17:46ایسی ہوں گی جو شاید مشکل position لینا پڑے گی
17:50پروگرام میں اب تک کے لیے اتنا ہی دیکھتے رہیے گا
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