00:00Well, I was excited about this yesterday, and I would say that I still am.
00:05I want to see what happens here.
00:06Mm-hmm.
00:08And I don't think I want to write it.
00:11No red pen.
00:12Oh, boy.
00:13I think I want to just wing it.
00:17How will we know who's where?
00:19I'll type it in.
00:20Okay.
00:2216.
00:23Oh, already we've got some drama here.
00:2616.
00:26I think I still, I'm inclined to still say Miami.
00:34However.
00:35I still want to say Pittsburgh.
00:37If either of you wanted just almost entirely because of 107-6 in the final two minutes of first halves
00:51since Aaron Glenn became their coach,
00:53you want to put the Jets at 16, I will not throw myself in front of that train.
00:58I'm glad you said it.
00:59I don't know if the Dolphins have the right guy yet, but the Jets, I think we know, still have
01:07the wrong guy,
01:08which means they've got to hire a guy and figure out if he's the right guy before they can dig
01:13out of this interminably deep hole
01:16that they have been living in for basically half of my adult life.
01:20All right, we're talking quarterbacks, not coaches, or we're talking coaches, not quarterbacks.
01:23Right, yes.
01:26Whereas the Dolphins, at least, if Halfley turns out not to be the guy, they're already a quarter or a
01:33third of the way to figuring that out.
01:35Tennessee.
01:35Which puts them ahead of the Jets.
01:38Tennessee is nowhere.
01:40That coaches never see in the playoffs.
01:43I wasted all of that great material.
01:45It was not a waste.
01:46I loved it.
01:47It was heard.
01:49I'm saying Tennessee.
01:50Provided nobody bailed out.
01:51They've been the worst team in the league.
01:52They still are.
01:55Yeah, Ward is bad.
01:56Tennessee.
01:57Okay.
01:58I was going to write it.
01:59I don't want to write it.
02:00I'll write it later.
02:0315.
02:04Now I'm cool with the Jets.
02:06Okay.
02:07Good.
02:0814.
02:09Miami.
02:10Miami, yeah.
02:1213.
02:13Colts.
02:15It's on.
02:16Yeah, sure.
02:17I mean, they're trading one of the best guards in football.
02:21At least that's who he's been anyway through his career.
02:23I'm not sure if he's, I'm not up on the PFF grades so far this year.
02:28But he's been one of the best guards and they're, like, sail in progress.
02:36You know what?
02:37What a great draft pick, Nelson.
02:41That's the Allen draft, isn't it?
02:44And he goes in front of Allen.
02:46Like, got to have one of the best guards in football.
02:49Got to have the horses up front.
02:51Got to have him.
02:51This will work.
02:52This will work.
02:53Wasn't that the same year?
02:54That's the same year.
02:55Yeah.
02:56All right.
02:56I didn't remember.
02:57Got to have him.
02:58Universally lauded.
02:59Yeah.
03:00Nobody thought he wasn't great.
03:02And I don't know.
03:03Some of us didn't care if he was great.
03:05Right.
03:05I'm not sure that anyone would dispute his greatness.
03:07No.
03:08Doesn't matter.
03:08But off he goes.
03:10Doesn't matter.
03:11Didn't really work out, I guess.
03:13Tough one.
03:14Great idea.
03:16Drafting guards in the top ten.
03:18Great idea, really.
03:19I mean, that should work.
03:20You wouldn't have wanted to draft Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson.
03:26You want to have a guard.
03:27You want to have a guy who can, you know, protect.
03:29Was Luck retired yet?
03:31No.
03:31That's why they draft Nelson.
03:32Right.
03:33Is their last attempt to keep him in the league.
03:35Well, fair enough.
03:36Yeah.
03:36They should have known.
03:37Thank you for getting there with that question.
03:40That's what I was going to effort to look it up.
03:42Like, when did Andrew Luck quit?
03:45Maybe that September.
03:47Was it that preseason?
03:48That summer, like, he didn't even get to the season.
03:50I don't remember now.
03:52Well, I know that's when he did quit.
03:53Great job.
03:54But they wouldn't have known that when they drafted Nelson, if it's the same year even.
04:00So, yeah.
04:00This is a precursor to our upcoming conversation this afternoon about whether the Bills should
04:04trade for Jonathan Taylor.
04:08You can't be too safe.
04:10You can't be too careful.
04:11You got to go make sure.
04:12Sure.
04:13We'll talk about it.
04:14Or probably not.
04:15No.
04:15You'll just laugh me out of the room.
04:16Well, 12.
04:17Yeah.
04:18I think my silence is speaking volumes here.
04:2212.
04:23Vegas.
04:24The Chargers have not won a game yet.
04:26That's true.
04:27Vegas beat them.
04:28They have Herbert.
04:30They are probably going to be cleaning out the coaching staff, though.
04:33And even Herbert.
04:34They're 0-6.
04:35They're next.
04:38Next question.
04:39Done.
04:39You don't got to sell me on it.
04:42I almost, for all of our sakes, hope they don't fire anyone and just sort of keep going
04:47and try to run it back.
04:49Maybe they draft the next Quentin Nelson next year to go with their bookend great tackles
04:54that so far have gotten them absolutely nowhere.
04:57It's going well.
04:58Who wins more games this year?
05:01Chargers or Raiders?
05:05Like, Justin Herbert is going to go 3-14 or something?
05:10I like that.
05:11Boy, I would love to see the line on, like, what would that, is that order a finish in
05:18the division, maybe?
05:19I don't, I would bet on the Chargers.
05:21It'd have to be plus money, obviously, that, you know, that's how I...
05:24To win more games this year than...
05:26Than the Raiders.
05:27The Raiders.
05:27They have a three-game head start, the Raiders do.
05:31And Vegas has beaten them.
05:33Right.
05:34For what that's worth.
05:35They will play again.
05:36They have, the Raiders have already played one more game than the Chargers already.
05:40Every time I compare, I think of these two teams together, I think of that amazing arcade
05:44game at the putt-putt on Sheridan, Chargers versus Raiders.
05:50Or was it called Raiders versus Chargers?
05:53But you had a, we have this conversation every few years.
05:56I grew up in the South Town, so I'm not that familiar with the game room at the putt house.
06:00You have a big, like a full-on arcade video game, and it's called Chargers versus Raiders,
06:07or Raiders versus Chargers, and the whole thing is, you call plays, and you get a clip
06:15from a game between those two teams.
06:17I remember this game now.
06:18And you win or lose.
06:19Yep.
06:19Oh, so much fun.
06:21There's no actual, like you're not responsible for any of the game action.
06:26I never liked games like that.
06:28You just, I don't want to have to do the.
06:31You input your suggestion or your call, and then stand back and watch.
06:35Yes.
06:35It's like the original coach slash manager builder mode in a video game.
06:40It's all I care about.
06:42I don't want to have to jump.
06:45Turbo boost.
06:46I don't want to have to throw it.
06:47Truck stick.
06:48Or run.
06:48I never figured out how to, like, break tackles in Madden.
06:52I just wouldn't call a running play.
06:54Yeah.
06:55I just, that made it easier.
06:57I never figured out how to do that.
06:59I think the dads of our generation really had a struggle once the controllers for both
07:08the Sega and the Sony game systems added those, like, paddle buttons in the front.
07:14Yeah.
07:15Like, one on top, one on the bottom.
07:18I never graduated to using anything but the three or four buttons that were on the face
07:24of the controller.
07:24Way too hard.
07:26So any combination of, like, well, left paddle with the right thing gets you his signature
07:32move.
07:33I'm sorry, we're never going to see this dude's signature move, because my signature
07:37move is, that's too complicated, get off my lawn.
07:42Right.
07:43My signature move, fall down.
07:45Right.
07:46My signature move, yeah.
07:48Hope I can defend the 80-yard bomb Owen is going to throw from Tom Brady to Randy Moss,
07:53maybe just once.
07:54No?
07:55Okay, not this time?
07:56Crap.
07:58Yeah.
07:59Very similar in this way, this area.
08:0111, Vegas.
08:02Where were we?
08:02Vegas, okay.
08:04Chargers, 11, Vegas, right?
08:05Yep, yep, yep.
08:06They sort of feel like they belong together.
08:09Ten.
08:13I'm prepared for pushback, because, I mean, if you really paid attention to this show
08:17last week, you might have thought the team that I'm about to mention was on the verge
08:21of winning the Super Bowl and clinching the one seed, but the Houston Texans are next
08:25for me.
08:25They're two and five.
08:27Good luck making up the ground.
08:28Now we're the standings again?
08:30No, they lost to the Giants at home, quarterbacked by J.J. McCarthy, who paints his face like
08:36a nine-year-old lacrosse player.
08:37Or maybe he stopped doing that with the Giants.
08:39I didn't see his stupid pudgy face in this game, but whatever.
08:43Well, you're on a roll over there.
08:45I mean, I'm working.
08:49I punched in.
08:50Um, I guess.
08:57I'm okay with Houston here.
08:58Yeah.
09:00Okay.
09:03Nine.
09:04Pittsburgh.
09:07Who do you pick?
09:08I really feel like it's...
09:09Browns or Steelers?
09:10I really, really...
09:11I liked all of what I ranted about, about the Texans just now.
09:15Yeah, let's hear more.
09:15But I feel pretty embarrassed that they're...
09:18Above.
09:19Above the...
09:20Above the Browns.
09:22So you're Cleveland?
09:24I am.
09:25Yeah, I'll go.
09:26They have beaten Pittsburgh.
09:27I'll go Cleveland here.
09:28The opposite has not happened.
09:30They play this week.
09:31Winner goes to six and two.
09:36Eight.
09:37Pittsburgh.
09:38What is the line there?
09:39Oh, good question.
09:40Where is that game?
09:41I've not even...
09:41It's in Pittsburgh.
09:42The Browns beat them.
09:44This is another area where your fantasy...
09:48Don't say obsession.
09:50Your fantasy activities, a value...
09:54You know who's playing who almost all the time, I feel like.
09:57And I never do.
09:58I've not looked at next week's schedule yet.
10:00You've mentioned that they're playing.
10:01I know that they're playing.
10:02But I have no idea where the game is.
10:04No idea what the line is.
10:06I have it right here.
10:08Cleveland at Pittsburgh.
10:10It's got to be Pittsburgh by, like, a field goal.
10:12Yep.
10:12Because no one knows.
10:13Exactly what it is.
10:13Pittsburgh minus three is the line.
10:15All right.
10:15I got three and a half.
10:19Very well.
10:20We'll go with that, then.
10:22Pittsburgh is eight.
10:23Seven.
10:25We have the Chiefs.
10:27We have the Broncos.
10:28We have the Jaguars.
10:29We have the Bills and Patriots.
10:32We have the Ravens and Bengals.
10:34Oh, man.
10:35Baltimore.
10:40Sure.
10:42Put it on the bulletin board.
10:46The Bills face the seventh best team in the AFC.
10:49Right.
10:49This week.
10:50A better win.
10:52Six.
10:54Denver?
10:55Yeah.
10:56Okay.
10:59Five.
11:00Five.
11:00Kansas City.
11:01Are they good, actually?
11:04I think I'm more scared of New England than I am Kansas City right now.
11:08I think I would agree with that.
11:10So, New England was the team I had in mind, but you said Kansas City, and my brain went,
11:17yeah, yeah, okay, yes.
11:22Four.
11:26New England.
11:27New England.
11:29Three.
11:32Cincinnati.
11:33Bills.
11:38Cincinnati.
11:41So, you guys would both take the Bills to beat the Bengals on a neutral field right now?
11:47Sure.
11:48I think so.
11:48Really?
11:50All right.
11:51I don't think that's crazy, but I would not.
11:55I would not.
11:57Good luck with that offense.
11:58I'd be.
11:59I'd be.
11:59Bills.
12:00I'd be.
12:00Good luck with that offense.
12:01I'd be pretty terrified of it, but maybe I can outscore them.
12:05Who is our leading receiver, and what does the stat line look like?
12:08I'd score everyone else.
12:09In that game.
12:10Well.
12:11You're playing the Bengals, so you're giving up 34.
12:15Who is my leading receiver, and what does the stat line look like?
12:18Or does it not matter?
12:20I don't.
12:20These other games, recently, nobody gets the ball, but they win.
12:23Do you want me to say DJ Moore, 8 for 115 and two scores, so you can laugh uproariously?
12:28Like, he's going to have that game at some point if he plays.
12:31Really?
12:32Yeah, I think so.
12:33I think so.
12:34Has it ever happened in his career?
12:35I guess yes, probably for Carolina.
12:37Probably a couple times.
12:40All right.
12:41Two.
12:44I'm on Buffalo.
12:45I'll go Buffalo here.
12:46One.
12:47I think Jacksonville's just more complete right now.
12:49Jacksonville's one.
12:49All right.
12:50There it is.
12:52How'd we do?
12:53I thought this would be more...
12:55Contentious?
12:56Contentious.
12:57Yeah.
12:57I thought this might be more interesting.
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13:09I think...
13:09It really wasn't that interesting.
13:12It's possible that my presentation on Houston diffused any arguments.
13:19You think you ruined it?
13:20Yeah, I might have ruined it.
13:21It was too good.
13:23I tried too hard.
13:24I tried too hard.
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