00:00Do you think that they're equally dangerous to the world?
00:02I think they're both very dangerous.
00:04And let me just be clear more of that.
00:05You know, if you're walking in the woods and your friend decides to poke a bear,
00:09and now you're running from the bear, or you're fighting the bear,
00:12is it the bear or your friend?
00:14I'd say it's probably both.
00:15And a friend who pokes a bear when you're out on a walk, inadvisably,
00:19is probably, you've got to question whether or not that's actually a friendship.
00:22So I've been very clear. I think they're both dangerous.
00:25I think the fact that we're fighting the war in Iran
00:28is a function of what the Prime Minister of Israel wanted.
00:30He literally was invited to the Situation Room to pitch the case.
00:34We find ourselves now seven months into a war that we should not be fighting.
00:37We're paying for it in our taxes. We're paying for it at the grocery store.
00:40We're paying for it in gas.
00:41And ask yourself whether or not this makes sense to you.
00:43And how do we get out? Well, nobody knows.
00:45And guess what? We were at peace with Iran.
00:48We had a JCPOA that had sustained the nuclear threat,
00:52had contained the nuclear threat.
00:53So we didn't need to do this.
00:55But Donald Trump ripped up the JCPOA, and then he took us to a war we shouldn't be fighting.
00:59That's exactly the kind of foreign policy, by the way,
01:01that people like Mike Rogers have been pushing for a very, very long time.
01:04He is on the record, back when he was in Congress, advocating for war with Iran.
01:08We're going to go to Fox 17.
01:09So is that equally dangerous, then, going back 50 years to the revolution?
01:12I would say that they've both been extremely dangerous to us.
01:15And I think it is important for us to be managing any of those dangers.
01:19But let's be clear that we should not be at war.
01:23We are at war in part because of the government of Israel's advocacy for this war.
01:29We are now in a more dangerous world because of both actions.
01:32We're going to go to Fox 17.
01:34You said that the questions and comments that you've heard of the campaign trail are different
01:38than the ones that have been asked and said at the debates.
01:40What's something from the campaign trail that has not yet been said or asked at these debates so far?
01:47You know, I don't think I've gotten a question from the press about child care.
01:53Not once.
01:54It comes up almost every single town hall in some way or another.
01:59You know why?
02:00Because it's one of the biggest drags on women in the economy.
02:05You know, too often, because it's so expensive, right,
02:08one family member or another has to leave the workforce to take care of a kid.
02:12And more often than not, it's women.
02:14And I get asked about that every day.
02:17Now, y'all don't ask me about that question.
02:19But it is a fundamental issue for so many people.
02:22And I really wish that more of our conversation was more trained on the issues that everyday people face.
02:26We're going to CBS right here.
02:30Yeah? No?
02:33You're good, you're good.
02:33Ben, we're going to you.
02:34One of your campaign staffers did you think we take foreign donations?
02:37Is that true?
02:38We're going to go to Ben.
02:39Why'd he say it?
02:40Mike Rogers has said a lot about his ability to,
02:44to chip into the Democratic base in this race.
02:48Are you concerned about his campaign's ability to do that thus far?
02:53And what have you done to shore up the Democratic base to vote for you?
02:57We feel quite confident about having shored up the Democratic base, right?
03:01What we're finding in this particular moment is that he really does have base problems.
03:07I mean, when you're getting 1,300 people in Marquette, 500, 600 people in the eastern and western U.P.,
03:15he really has base problems.
03:17Now, you know, I don't know if you saw this report.
03:19I think CNN went to his Detroit office two days later after the big fanfare of opening it, and there
03:23was nobody there.
03:24So, look, he's going to make a show out of things, and he needs something to grasp on to make
03:28sure that the corporations keep funding his campaign.
03:31But, look, we are actually campaigning.
03:33I mean, you've been on this trail.
03:34So, which of the two campaigns is more aggressive and more active?
03:37Ben?
03:37We're going to go to the...
03:38Which of the two?
03:39No, it's an important question.
03:40I can't say.
03:41You can't say.
03:42Dr. Alistair, why bring Obama into town?
03:44I'm sorry, but we already gave you a question.
03:46We're going to have to move on.
03:47I'm sorry.
03:47Why bring Obama into town?
03:49One of the most popular politicians in America.
03:52I think having him come in support is a good thing, and I'm excited to have him on the stump.
03:56And I think, look, we have an opportunity to continue to have conversations.
04:01Like, we actually do events on this campaign.
04:03I do more events in a day more often than he does an entire week.
04:08I'm trying for financial aid and being able to pay through college, including us as well.
04:12What are your plans for that?
04:13Look, I believe in a debt-free, tuition-free pathway to higher education.
04:18I believe in an era of AI, it's important to be able to do that.
04:22As we watch AI trying to automate away the nature of the work that you're training to do.
04:29You know, we have had a challenge with higher education for a very long time
04:32because we've been actively defunding it under the policies of people like Donald Trump.
04:35When you defund the Department of Education,
04:36what you're actively defunding are programs for people in college.
04:40And what a lot of folks don't realize is that we used to fund higher education
04:44in a lot of different ways, in far bigger ways.
04:47And we've watched as the overhead of higher education has just increased.
04:50And so I think we need policies that are going to be invested in students,
04:54invested in institutions of higher learning,
04:56and also to put a cap on the extra spending on things that don't really improve education.
05:01Right?
05:02Maybe, you know, five flavors of Froyo instead of 19.
05:05Right?
05:05But too often, these are the big projects that you're getting donors to come and fund,
05:09but they impose a lot of overhead on higher education.
05:12So I think we need to address that as well.
05:14We have time for one more question.
05:15We're going to go to CBS.
05:15You've made Medicare for All a central tenet of your campaign.
05:19And I'm curious, you know, Roger's what's going to incur on Michiganders.
05:22What is that cost going to be?
05:23And do you think this can actually get passed in Congress in today's day and age in the next two
05:28years?
05:28Let's talk about what the costs are now.
05:30The average family is paying, what, $2,000 a month for a premium?
05:35And then their deductible is $4,500.
05:37The median family makes $72,000 a year.
05:40So that means you're losing a whole paycheck to pay for the health care you paid for every single paycheck.
05:44That's the reality of health care in America right now.
05:47And I believe that we can do a lot better.
05:49Now, where does that money go in our system?
05:51More and more of it is getting sucked up by the overhead in the insurance industry,
05:57pharmaceutical industry, hospital industry that's going to CEO pay.
06:00When the CEO of a health insurer makes tens of millions of dollars,
06:03every single one of those dollars was a dollar somebody paid for health care for their family.
06:06So if I can tell you that your overall costs are going to go down,
06:08because right now you pay a premium like it's a tax.
06:10It goes off the top of your paycheck, and it goes into the back pocket of a CEO.
06:16If I told you you could pay less and get durable health care,
06:19that wouldn't leave you if you lost your job,
06:21wouldn't leave you if you turned 26,
06:23wouldn't leave you if you got a job, lost a job,
06:26wouldn't leave you if you got married, got divorced,
06:27wouldn't leave you if you turned 65, it'd just be there for you.
06:29I think the vast majority of the American public would be like,
06:31yeah, that's a trade I'm willing to make.
06:33And when I tell you that we can do that,
06:37and we can do that for 25% less cost than we pay right now off the top,
06:41and we can reduce the speed at which our health care gets more expensive,
06:45that's a good deal.
06:46It's a reason why nearly 70% of the American public supports Medicare for All
06:50as it stands right now.
06:51Now, the reason we have a bipartisan consensus against Medicare for All,
06:55even though the public wants Medicare for All,
06:57is because of politicians like Mike Rogers who take money from the health insurance
07:00and from the pharmaceutical corporations.
07:03He's taken money from big pharma, he's taken money from big insurance,
07:06and yes, of course, he is going to oppose this policy,
07:09you know, tells it's too expensive,
07:10even though he's voted, what, 19 times to keep prescription drug prices high?
07:13This is the problem with our politics.
07:15The thing you'll get with me is I don't take money from the corporations,
07:17so I'm going to call it how it is.
07:18We can have better than what we have right now.
07:21The vast majority of the American public understands that.
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