00:00Joining us now on our big story of the day is actor, activist Prakash Raj joins me.
00:07He's been a strong supporter of the Kaukruj Janta Party.
00:10Prakash Raj, Abhijit Dipke detain, Neha Bora detain, No Thiranga March allowed by the Delhi police,
00:18comes on the back of Ashutosh Ranka, Saurav Das also being arrested earlier this week.
00:24Your take away, do you believe that there was a clear violation according to the police of their prohibitory orders
00:31and therefore they had no option but to detain Abhijit and Neha today?
00:35The fear is evident. I'm asking, Modi ji, what happened to your Harghar Tiranga Nara?
00:45You are the one who started Harghar Tiranga Nara and you will now arrest students, youngsters
00:51for going for a march of peaceful protest? You are turning it violent.
00:57The youth of this country want to walk with the Tiranga.
01:01That is the way they protest because they believe in a peaceful protest.
01:07They believe in Gandhi, they believe in Ambedkar, they believe in this constitution
01:11and they're using their right.
01:36They say they are trying to do what the police is expected to do, maintain law and order.
01:42They refer to what happened on July 28th where the peaceful protest turned violent.
01:48They say we cannot take any such chances.
01:50There are prohibitory orders in place.
01:53Central Park is closed.
01:54They served a notice on Abhijit Dipke.
01:57They said this Tiranga march was only a ruse to create trouble.
02:02What a joke.
02:03Who is creating violence?
02:05Who is lathie charging the children?
02:07Who has released goons from jails and sent to the protesters with a hand giving them lathies?
02:14Why are the big vehicles full with uniforms and lathies?
02:19Who is hitting them?
02:20Who is misbehaving with the lady protesters?
02:24Who is the one who used the pellet guns?
02:27Who used AK-47?
02:29Did the youth of this country do it?
02:32Youth of this country, the citizens of this country are asking Jnanesh Kumar, why are you coming in between?
02:41Who is using the force?
02:42We are not using the force.
02:45We are not armed.
02:46We are armed with the constitution.
02:48We are armed with the right to protest.
02:52Why are you creating this?
02:54You are saying there is fear.
02:56You are armed with the constitution.
02:58But look at it from the state's perspective.
03:01The state believes that look, Central Delhi is not a notified area for protest.
03:07The Tiranga march therefore, according to them, would have been seen as a protest which is unacceptable.
03:14It would have caused chaos in the area in the heart of Delhi.
03:17Therefore, if you defy the prohibitory orders as per BNSS, you are being put in detention.
03:24We are following the law, the law of the land.
03:27What did the Supreme Court say?
03:31Did they stop the protest?
03:35After the Supreme Court comes, you will wait for the Supreme Court.
03:38The Supreme Court says, go ahead with the protest.
03:40Then you will bring this rule.
03:42Then you will put sections.
03:45Who is defining the Supreme Court?
03:47Who is defying the law?
03:49The police are.
03:50The army is and this regime is.
03:54You will go, even before Abdi Abhijitri walks out of his office, of his home.
03:59You will go sit there.
04:02He is walking alone.
04:04You will push him in.
04:07How is this acceptable?
04:09See, in this country, in the whole world, you use technically right rules only.
04:16You will use the same laws to break the laws.
04:20Didn't the Supreme Court the other day say, no, we can't stop the protest?
04:24They have a right to protest.
04:26In this country, the law says, as much as the street is for the people, traffic, it is also for
04:33the protesters.
04:34They are supposed to navigate the traffic, not to stop a protest.
04:40Not to stop a protest.
04:42How will you respond?
04:43And the government is also citing that, saying, look, this is causing public inconvenience.
04:48Festive season, traders area, the trader organizations have written to the prime minister saying, we do not want this area
04:54to be a scene of protests, of having so many thousands of police personnel there.
05:01We want our business to carry on as normal.
05:05Dear jokers, when you stop trains coming to Delhi, metros to Delhi, you fortified metro Delhi into a Jantar Mantar,
05:15then it was not causing problem.
05:17When your Prahan Mantri goes on his election tour, is it not causing traffic jams?
05:24When you stop traffic for hours, for election meetings, isn't it causing traffic jams?
05:34Who are you fooling this country?
05:37Where are you hiding behind the laws?
05:40You are conscious, you are morally wrong.
05:46Don't bring these technicalities.
05:48You are saying you are morally wrong, you are saying there is a fear factor.
05:51But Prakash Raj, you know, you have been traveling across the country, even as we speak.
05:56You are in Trivandrum, where you address this evening a rally at their Jantar Mantar.
06:02You are moving to other cities.
06:03You have been in Bengaluru.
06:04What is this movement about now?
06:07What began as a Gen Z protest to remove the education minister over need exam paper leaks is now about
06:13Gyanesh Kumar, chief election commissioner.
06:16What is the focus of this protest?
06:18Yesterday, Prashant Bhushan, at the press conference where you were there, said this is about regime change.
06:23So what is this actually about?
06:25Regime change?
06:26Changing the election commissioner?
06:27Why not?
06:27Or what?
06:28Why not?
06:29In a country that was different, Dharmesh Pradhan, now they are talking about the SIR.
06:36There is trauma in this country because of SIR.
06:39There are 13 crore people who have been deleted.
06:42Many of whom are there.
06:43People are suffering.
06:43Wait, let me complete.
06:45When we are asking question to election commission, why are you stopping us?
06:50We are now alleging that the selection of election commission itself was not a democratic process.
06:59When we are questioning why did you give him judicial immunity, which the president and prime minister does not have.
07:06When we are saying why did you remove eligible voters in Bengal elections, when we are asking them the question,
07:13the prime minister of this country, Mr. Modi Ji, and Amit Shah should say,
07:17Arre Gyanu, they are alleging us that we have conspired.
07:22Come out and talk.
07:23Instead of that, you have illegally detained Gyanu also and you are hitting us.
07:31If you are hitting us, dalme kuch kala hai, that means we want the regime down and we will bring
07:36it down democratically in this country.
07:39We are not Nepal, we are not Bangladesh.
07:43We have Ambedkar, we have Gandhi, we have Bhagat Singh, we have a constitution, we have a right to vote.
07:49In two years, we will bring you down.
07:53We will bring you down in UP.
07:55We will do it democratically, regime change, because if the regime is against the people,
08:01the Nara, who is making us talk this?
08:04You have pushed us because you are not talking to us.
08:08You are using force.
08:10That means this regime is stopping the voice of this country.
08:13And naturally, you are the reason for this Nara.
08:16You have instigated this Nara that we will bring the regime down because we have lost hope on you.
08:23Who's the we here?
08:25Who's the we, Prakash Raj?
08:28Is it because the government's constant refrain is, we've been winning elections after elections for the last 12 years.
08:35We have the mandate of the people of this country.
08:38You have no mandate of the people.
08:41You have no mandate of the bill.
08:43400, 240, you are not here because of the mandate of people.
08:49You are on crutches of Nitish Kumar and Chandra Babunard and Pawan Kalyan.
08:53You are buying MPs.
08:55You have planned and destroyed every regional party with your election commission.
09:01We are asking the basic questions.
09:03You are not powerful.
09:04You are not here because of the people's mandate.
09:06And you are very clearly, no, you will not come back with the people's mandate.
09:10That is why you are doing ched chad with the election process.
09:14This is my allegation.
09:16This is our allegations.
09:17And I dare Amir Shah and Modi to come in public, keep the media in front of us and answer
09:23our allegations.
09:24If we are wrong, we are ready to go to jail.
09:26We have proofs.
09:38The more you stop us, we know you are the culprits.
09:42Is this a battle though being fought on the street?
09:45Or does this become a battle to be fought on the street in a democracy?
09:49Or is the battle to be...
09:51How is this battle to be fought in a peaceful manner?
09:54I repeat the word peaceful manner.
09:55Let the opposition parties fight it in the parliament.
09:59For an issue in a democratic country should go to the parliament.
10:03We, the people of this country, will be on the streets demanding.
10:07You all do democratically in this winter session.
10:11We will continue to...
10:13Now, farmers have joined.
10:14SKM has joined.
10:17Today, the SKM says you can't beat our children.
10:20The simple society as Jantar Mantar, when will you stop?
10:26This will be a bigger crowd, bigger fight and bigger protest than what you saw in Jantar Mantar with Dharmesh
10:33Pradhan.
10:34You know, because...
10:35It is no more a Jantar Mantar fight.
10:37When you use this language, there will be again those who will say this is Prakash Raj virtually inciting people
10:43and spreading anarchy.
10:44That word is constantly being used.
10:46This is anarchy.
10:47That these anarchists, including Prakash Raj, are going to end up destroying democracy.
10:54Me saying, me saying, me saying, me saying that you are killing democracy through the constitution we are fighting.
11:03Me saying we will take Gandhi's way.
11:06Me saying we will come to the streets.
11:09Me saying democratically we will bring you down from Uttar Pradesh to 2029 elections.
11:15This is anarchy for you.
11:17Is this anarchy for you?
11:19Me saying we will fight with love?
11:23Me saying we will fight with the constitutional right we have to question, to pretest and vote?
11:30If this is anarchy?
11:34Or sending gundas, lati charging students, AK-47s, bullets?
11:39Is that anarchy?
11:41My final question to you...
11:42I think we will leave the world to decide.
11:44Okay.
11:45You know, Kiran Rejuju, the minister, clearly you've got under his skin because he's put out a video of you
11:51laughing.
11:52To a reporter's question that the protesters were targeting women constables.
11:57You were laughing, he says, in a villainous manner.
12:00And he says, this is not our Indian culture.
12:02Who is this utter shameless villain?
12:04And he's referring to you.
12:06What will you tell him?
12:07He is a shameless...
12:10What about, I mean, he is misbehaving with the women protesters is the culture of this country?
12:17Releasing rapists and garlanding them when they come out of jail by the BJP goons, is it the culture of
12:23this country?
12:25Giving lattes and uniforms to the goons and asking them to hit the protesters, is this the culture of this
12:30country?
12:33Answer me.
12:35So you will carry on going across the country, spreading the word, taking on this government.
12:40Am I correct for Prakash Raj?
12:41This is my responsibility.
12:44This is my responsibility.
12:46I owe to this country.
12:48I am a Deshbuk.
12:49I love my country.
12:50And I will not let these goons destroy our democracy.
12:54Prakash Raj, in conclusion, what is the endgame here?
12:58You're saying you're going to go across the country, raising your voice.
13:01The government is making it very clear.
13:03Gyanesh Kumar is going nowhere.
13:05Nothing is going to change.
13:06We are not going to do...
13:07We are not going to act under pressure.
13:10In fact, they say these protests are all being orchestrated by those who want to destabilize the country.
13:15The majority is with us.
13:16What is the endgame then?
13:19Endgame is, you are done, bro.
13:22Bro, Gyanesh, you are done, bro.
13:25Modi ji, Anitsha ji, you guys are done, bro.
13:30No, that's a one-liner.
13:32But the majority, when they say, when they turn around and say, this is all sponsored from abroad, there are
13:37foreign funds...
13:38They will say, yes, get the accounts, show the accounts.
13:45You just can't just say it.
13:47Do it.
13:48And if they say the majority of the people of this country are with them, not with the Prakash Raj
13:54and his friends, what will you say to them?
13:56Majority of the people are not with you, don't lie to us.
14:01Look at your numbers.
14:04Look at your vote share.
14:07And if, because you know the conspiracy, please talk to yourself in the mirror.
14:12You won because of you did shade chard with the voters.
14:16You have used election commission because you know you will not come back.
14:23Okay.
14:23SR is not only an act of removing votes.
14:27It is also trying to remove evidences of all elections post-2024 and the state elections.
14:35We know we have evidence.
14:38Well, put all the evidence, hopefully, out there in the public domain, if you have it.
14:42But we will wait and see.
14:44No, we have the evidence.
14:45We are asking them to come talk to us.
14:48Release illegal detention of Jnanesh Kumar.
14:51He is our prime witness.
14:53Please release him.
14:55Let's leave them to talk about it.
14:57We have our prime witness in illegal detention.
15:02Don't send it to the people's rights.
15:04Okay.
15:05Prakash Raj, combative as ever.
15:08Thank you very much for joining me on the show tonight.
15:11Thank you, Chief.