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00:00So Melissa Payne, the black woman that shot the white army veteran in the Walmart parking lot in Florida, apparently
00:05she is not going to be charged.
00:06So the Broward County State Attorney's Office said that she is immune from prosecution because of stand your ground laws.
00:11Just in case you forgot what happened, this man was waiting for her after the two had a dispute when
00:16she was coming out of the Walmart parking lot.
00:18In the video, you can literally see her gun in hand looking like she's telling him to back up as
00:23he continues to charge at her and come her way.
00:26OK, now, a lot of people, especially the people that champion these stand your ground laws when it comes to
00:30people that don't look like them.
00:32OK, we're up in arms saying that she used too much force and she should have retreated and she should
00:36have gotten her car and left.
00:37OK, all this admonish a woman who decided not to let a man who was charging at her, a man
00:42that she didn't know from the son of Sam.
00:44OK, get in her personal space and cause her danger in the state of Florida.
00:47There are stand your ground laws. And yes, you do not have a duty to retreat in stand your ground
00:52laws and stand your ground state, specifically Florida.
00:54You have no duty to retreat from imminent danger that's coming at you.
00:58And she felt threatened and she used her Second Amendment right to shoot him.
01:02And it doesn't appear that she's going to be charged.
01:04This is a developing story. Now, do my best to keep you updated as more information becomes available.
01:08He actually left his vehicle, walked up as he was about to go in and go shopping.
01:12And then he came back. I'm still in my vehicle.
01:17I'm still in my vehicle. So he says a few things again.
01:21He gets into his car. He pulls off.
01:25My niece goes into the store. I say, I'm going to stay in the car.
01:28She goes inside the store. So now, like I said, he done made several regrets about doing something to my
01:34vehicle.
01:36So, when I see he come walking up again, he's walking in my direction.
01:41I step out of the vehicle. I have my gun down on the side.
01:44I said, sir, please do not approach my vehicle.
01:47Do not come near us. He's steady going on about scratching or doing little hand gestures or whatever.
01:55I told him, it's not going to go well for you. Please.
01:58The other guy's telling him, sir, sir, it's not working for you.
02:01Just leave her alone. Leave her alone. Walk away. Walk away.
02:05So, you're circling me. What are you going to do?
02:08What are you going to do?
02:09Oh, I've seen, what do you say? I've seen tougher than you.
02:14Shoot. Do it. Do it. Shoot.
02:16So, you're following me. I've circled around the other vehicle.
02:20I've told him several times to back up because you got up on me before I could, like, get back
02:25in the vehicle or anything.
02:27And you walked up on me several times.
02:29And it went from there.
02:30He actually left his vehicle, walked...
02:35So, we got to talk about this situation in Florida that went down a little while back.
02:43And now it has come to a conclusion.
02:46And that conclusion is that this young lady, that young lady that you saw there in that video and that
02:52you heard speaking,
02:54not the first clip, but the second clip lady, who shot the man in the, I believe that was a
03:02Walmart parking lot,
03:05is not going to face any charges whatsoever, which is quite interesting.
03:11But I want to talk about it a little bit because, obviously, this is an interesting story that has garnered
03:18quite a bit of attention.
03:19All right?
03:21So, let's hop into it.
03:22Coming at 6 tonight, a stunning development and a deadly dispute outside of Walmart.
03:26An Army veteran shot and killed over a parking spot earlier this summer.
03:30Tonight, we're learning the woman who opened fire won't face any charges.
03:33Let's get right to Local 10's Erin Maven, live in North Lauderdale, with why prosecutors say her actions were justified.
03:40Erin?
03:41Well, Nicole and Calvin, this is something that we have been closely monitoring and waiting for for several months
03:46after a shooting played out in this parking lot.
03:49And for the first time, we are hearing from the woman at the center of this Stand Your Ground case.
03:55I said, sir, please do not approach my vehicle.
03:59Do not come near us.
04:01Melissa Payne describes what she says happened moments before she shot and killed Barta Guglielmo
04:06in a North Lauderdale Walmart parking lot.
04:09A deputy interviewing Payne shortly after the June 30th shooting following a dispute over a parking spot.
04:15I told him, it's not going to go well for you.
04:18Please.
04:18The other guy is telling him, sir, sir, it's not worth the fees.
04:21Just leave her alone.
04:22Prosecutors say video shows Payne, who was with two relatives in a white Chevy Malibu,
04:26and Deguglielmo, who was alone inside his white Kia SUV, trying to park in the same parking space.
04:32After a stalemate, prosecutors say Deguglielmo left his car in the travel lane,
04:37grabbed a shopping cart, and walked into the store.
04:40Payne parked in the space.
04:42And then he came back.
04:44I'm still in my vehicle.
04:45Payne said Deguglielmo was upset and began to make threats to damage her car.
04:50I see he come walking up again.
04:52You're walking in my direction.
04:54I step out of the vehicle.
04:55I had my gun down on the side.
04:57Video without audio shows a two in an argument.
05:00What are you going to do?
05:01What are you going to do?
05:03The two walk in circles until investigators say Payne fired the fatal shot.
05:08Broward County prosecutors are not charging Payne because they say her actions fell within Florida's
05:13Stand Your Ground self-defense law.
05:15From what we see in the video, he's unarmed.
05:18He doesn't have a weapon on him.
05:19You can see his hands throughout the entirety of the interaction.
05:24Melissa Rodriguez is representing the 62-year-old military veteran's daughter, Amanda.
05:29Obviously, she's very disappointed.
05:31She was holding hope that the state attorney's office would bring forth criminal charges.
05:40In an interview over the summer with Local 10, Amanda Deguglielmo said that her father was a family man
05:46who worked as a trauma ER nurse for 30 years.
05:50Now, in a memo, a 22-page memo, the state attorney's office said that Payne had the right to stand
05:55her ground
05:56if she was in reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm.
06:00And prosecutors can't prove that her fear of harm was not reasonable.
06:04We are live tonight in North Los Angeles.
06:08Yeah, so there you have it.
06:13There's a lot to be learned from, you know, a situation like this.
06:19And, you know, I've seen situations like this one too many times.
06:25And that is situations where somebody is pointing a gun at you.
06:31And you have people who just don't walk away.
06:35Like, there is a deadly weapon pointed at you.
06:41Anybody who's ever purchased a firearm, a lot of us had a few things drilled into our heads.
06:46At least any good place, you know, where you purchase firearms.
06:51And one of the things that's drilled into your head is you never point your gun
06:55at anything that you're not willing to destroy.
07:00Some of you, some of you probably heard, you know, something similar as well
07:03when you purchased your firearms for the first time and whatnot.
07:06But that's one of the things that's kind of drilled into your head.
07:09You don't point it at something unless you're willing to destroy it.
07:13She's pointing it at you.
07:15She's willing to destroy you.
07:16She's willing to kill you.
07:18It's pointed at you.
07:20You walk away.
07:21Why are you still walking towards her?
07:23Why are you even still arguing?
07:25You know what I mean?
07:26And it's not just him.
07:28Like I said, I've seen this type of situation way too many times.
07:32There's way too many videos that have popped up on X or online or on social media
07:38of somebody getting shot and killed because they would not simply walk away.
07:45Walk away.
07:46Like, oh, what are you going to do?
07:48What are you going to do?
07:49Are you going to shoot me?
07:50Okay.
07:50Yeah, they are.
07:53You're concerned about them going to jail.
07:56Sure, they may go to jail.
07:58But guess what?
07:59They're still breathing.
08:01You're going to be six feet in the dirt.
08:04You know what I'm saying?
08:05Like, we got to be smarter, man.
08:12We got to be smarter.
08:14And this is coming from someone who admittedly was not always, how can I put this?
08:24I wasn't always the first person to walk away from a fight.
08:27I'll just put it that way.
08:30You know, mama didn't raise, you know, no P-U-S-S-Y.
08:36I was always ready to rumble.
08:39Okay.
08:40But, you know, as you mature, you realize that, you know, at any given moment, it could all
08:46be over.
08:48It could all be over in an instant.
08:51All it takes, boom.
08:54You know what I mean?
08:56And so, instead of leaving that possibility open, leaving that doorway open to that possibility,
09:04just walk away and you slam that door completely closed.
09:08You know, don't let your pride get you put six feet in the dirt.
09:13And I got into an argument at the barbershop once with some folks about pride and yeah,
09:22they, they didn't listen.
09:23So their pride is unfortunate.
09:25Hopefully not.
09:27It's hopefully it's not going to happen, but we know, we know how that works.
09:31You know, um, some people just can't put their pride to the side and it's a shame.
09:37It's a shame, you know, because what you showed out and you, you, you did all the, you know,
09:44puffing up your chest and all that extra stuff.
09:47So you, you look nice.
09:49You, you didn't look like a pussy in front of everybody, but guess what?
09:52You six feet in the dirt.
09:53People going to put you on a t-shirt.
09:55That t-shirt's going to be faded after about six months and then they're going to throw it
09:59away.
10:00And only a select few people going to release some balloons or remember you on the anniversary
10:05of your death.
10:09Congratulations.
10:09You played yourself.
10:11You know, you played yourself.
10:13Walk away from confrontation.
10:16Walk away, walk away.
10:19You know, it's, it's, it's not worth it at the end of the day.
10:22It really isn't, you know?
10:24Um, obviously some of y'all fellows understand what I mean when, Hey, when we were, when we
10:29were a little bit younger, you know, a little tough to walk away from some of them situations.
10:33And some of us didn't, you know what I'm saying?
10:37We stood there and rumbled, you know, but, um, got to walk away, man.
10:44Got to walk, especially in today's age, right?
10:46Where you got these YNs, these, these young folks who don't care whatsoever.
10:51I literally just watched the video was yesterday, maybe yesterday or the day before yesterday,
10:58where a young man killed an older lady, just shot her in front of a crowd of people, a whole
11:06crowd of people standing all around them.
11:09She's arguing with them.
11:11He pulls out a gun and just blast her several times.
11:16These people do not care.
11:18They will kill you dead in front of everybody and not think twice about it.
11:23I watched that video.
11:25That's a real video.
11:26You could probably find it online.
11:28Some of y'all might know what video I'm talking about.
11:32So at the end of the day, can you be frustrated?
11:37Can you be upset?
11:38Absolutely.
11:39That's, that's natural.
11:40It happens, but control it.
11:44Arguing over a parking spot is not worth it.
11:47Really arguing over just about anything ain't worth it at the end of the day.
11:53Especially a parking spot.
11:54Let's go park somewhere else.
11:55Who cares?
11:57Yeah, you're annoyed.
11:58They took your spot, whatever.
12:00You know what I'm saying?
12:01Whatever.
12:03Nine times out of 10, not even nine times out of 10, 10 times out of 10 is best to
12:07just
12:07walk away.
12:10So, yeah, y'all get into the comments.
12:12Let me know your thoughts and your opinions.
12:13Do you think she should have gotten away with no charges because of standing your ground?
12:20I'm kind of iffy on that because like, why did you get out of the car?
12:23And, you know, there was a moment where you kind of walked back up to him a little bit,
12:29but he is a man.
12:31She was like back.
12:32She did walk away around the car, you know, kind of backing away.
12:38And she was pointing a gun at him the whole time.
12:41So it's like, bro, you kind of did that to yourself, man.
12:45You kind of did.
12:46You kind of did.
12:47I mean, from the moment she pulled out the firearm, you should have exit stage left.
12:55You know, if you still got an issue about it, call the police.
12:58That's what they're there for.
13:00Now, one, one.
13:00We, hey, I got an issue over here with this young lady, you know, whatever, whatever,
13:05whatever.
13:07And gone about it that way.
13:10And now, unfortunately, the man is dead.
13:13So, yeah.
13:14Let me know your thoughts, your opinions.
13:17If she was right, if she was wrong, do you think she should have gotten away with this
13:21whole thing?
13:22If you agree with me, if you disagree, let me know.
13:26Peace.
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