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00:30Mary Grace Piatos, Antonio Pagong, Timon Andrew Pusa, Shane Ngitngit at Soliso Belat.
00:38Ilan lamang ito sa libu-libong pangalan ng mga taong tumanggap umano ng Confidential Fund
00:43mula sa Office of the Vice President at Department of Education noong 2022 at 2023.
00:50Lumabas na sa 2,669 na pangalan na itinacheck sa Philippine Statistics Authority o PSA
00:58mula sa pinirmahang Acknowledgement Receipts.
01:011,685 ang walang record na kapanganakan, pagpapasal o kamatayan.
01:0937 naman ang patay na noong panahon na ipamahagi ang Confidential Fund noong 2022 at 2023,
01:18habang 25 naman sa mga ito ay bata pa noong mga panahon na yun.
01:23Ang pinakabata raw sa lahat ay dalawang buwang sanggol na namatay noong 1965.
01:31Ang pinakabata ay si Marlene Soma.
01:34Based po kasi sa death certificate po niya, 2 months pa lang ay namatay na po siya.
01:402 months?
01:41Ano naman po kayang confidential information na magbibigay ni itong Marlene Soma?
01:45Objection, Your Honor.
01:47Napansin din daw ni Mariza Grande ng Philippine Statistics Authority,
01:51nakakaiba ang ilang mga pangalan.
01:54Nag-run through lang po ako doon sa mga listahan and I find it unusual
02:00because unique po yung mga names po na ito
02:03and conducted a reverification using the database po.
02:07Ano po ba itong mga pangalan na nabanggit niyo?
02:12You found unusual.
02:15Yung naalala ko po dito, yung pangalan nila,
02:18Arthur Baon,
02:20Beverly Claire Pampano,
02:23so yung mga pangalan po na yun,
02:25Matthew N. Quezo,
02:28si Charles Sampaloc Jr.,
02:31ilan lang po sa mga pangalan na tinignan po.
02:33Ilang senador ang nagtanong dupo sa posibilidad na baka alias ang mga pangalan.
02:39Sagot ng depensa,
02:40alias nga raw umano ang mga ito.
02:43But these are, in fact,
02:45alias, as your honor,
02:46to the consideration of this call.
02:48Bagay na pinalaga ng prosecution
02:50dahil mula raw sa pre-trial hanggang ngayon,
02:53wala namang sinabi ang depensa na alias ang mga pangalan.
02:57It's already a tad too late for the defense, your honor,
03:02to be adopting the position.
03:03We're already at the 11th hour, your honor.
03:07Wala pa rin yung honor kasi siguro,
03:08ano ba yung position, your honor?
03:11She may perhaps have neglected the basic
03:14and the most essential idea of a fair trial,
03:18and that is for the prosecution to first discharge its burden of proof.
03:24And until the prosecution hurdles that burden,
03:28then the defense may even remain silent.
03:30Si Sen. Rafi Tulfo,
03:32may ibang teorya tungkol sa mga kakaibang pangalan.
03:35Yung bang firma ng bawat,
03:39ng ilang mga informants po doon,
03:41Mr. Selling Officer,
03:42pare-pareho.
03:43Tapos yung handwriting,
03:45yung pagpipilap ng mga pangalan doon,
03:47pare-pareho.
03:47Ibig sabihin,
03:48isang tao lang ang napipilap noon.
03:51So, yun ay very questionable for me.
03:55Habang pinipilap pa nila yung pangalan doon,
03:56natatawanan yun.
03:58Ginagawa tayong mga kengkoy,
04:00yung mga taga,
04:02yung tao dyan sa dep,
04:03pwede sa katao dyan sa OVP.
04:05Sa cross-examination naman ng depensa,
04:08ipinunto nito na hindi naman lahat ng Pilipino
04:11ay may record sa PSA.
04:13Ayon mismo sa PSA,
04:16nasa 3% o may 3 billion na Pilipino
04:19ang walang birth certificate.
04:21Kaya sabi ng depensa,
04:23hindi porket walang record sa PSA,
04:25ay hindi na ito totoong tao.
04:27We are testifying as to the availability po ng record
04:31and not as to the existence.
04:33So, to clarify,
04:33it only certifies that a particular name
04:36is not found in the CRS database.
04:39Correct?
04:40Yes, sir.
04:41Punto rin ni Presiding Officer,
04:42Senator Chizze Scudero,
04:44walang paraan ng PSA na alamin
04:46kung ang pangalan sa kanilang database
04:49ay siya rin eksaktong tao
04:51na puberma sa acknowledgement receipts.
04:54Single match entry.
04:55Kung hindi sa universal,
04:58hindi porket may single match entry kayo
05:01na nagmatch dun sa pangalan binigay,
05:03eh siya na talaga yun.
05:04Pag sinabi namin na most likely,
05:06one most likely birth record,
05:10for example,
05:11using that name po,
05:15it has an exact match
05:16na may isang record po na nasa database.
05:18Pero hindi rin nangangahulugan
05:20na siya nga yun?
05:22Yes, possible po yun.
05:24Kaugnay naman sa testigo si Edward Fajarda,
05:27Special Disversing Officer ng DepEd.
05:30Nagdesisyon ng prosecution
05:31na hindi na ito ipatawag sa witness stand
05:34dahil sa lagay ng kalusugan nito.
05:37Ako si Sandra Aguinaldo,
05:39ang inyong saksi.
05:41Hindi raw issue sa prosekusyon
05:42kung alias nga ba o hindi
05:44ang ginamit ng mga pangalan
05:45sa acknowledgement receipts
05:46kag may po ng confidential funds
05:48kasunod ng sinabi ng depensa
05:50na alias nga ang mga ito.
05:52Kung totoo nga ito,
05:53posible bang i-declassify
05:55o ilabas sa impeachment court
05:56ang totoong detali
05:57sa likod ng mga pangalan?
05:59Narito ang aking report.
06:04Sa pagsalang sa witness stand,
06:05ni Assistant National Statistician Marisa Grande,
06:08lumabas na marami sa mga pangalang
06:10nasa pinilmahang acknowledgement receipts
06:12para sa confidential funds
06:13ng Office of the Vice President
06:15at Department of Education
06:16sa ilalim ni Vice President Sarah Duterte,
06:19ay walang record ng kapanganakan,
06:21pagpapakasal o kamatayan
06:23sa Philippine Statistics Authority o PSA.
06:26Pero pinalinaw ni Presiding Officer
06:28Senator Cheez Escudero
06:29na hindi otomatikong masasabi
06:31na hindi totoong tao
06:32ang nasa likod ng mga pangalan.
06:34Kailangan kasi kung tutukoy yun yung mismo
06:38ang isang tao,
06:40dapat talaga may personal knowledge ka
06:42sa tao na nasa siya yun.
06:45Ang testimonya ni Grande
06:47ay only sa record na kami,
06:50mayroon kaming record na ganito,
06:53wala-wala ang record kay Piatos,
06:55et cetera,
06:56mayroon kaming record na itong pangalan na ito
06:58ay two years lang ito
07:00o patay na several years before.
07:03Pero hindi siya pwede magsabi
07:07at mag-testify na
07:08hindi itong tao,
07:09hindi itong...
07:11Kung baga hindi mo pwedeng sabi na
07:13itong pangalan ito
07:14ay siya nga yung talagang nandun
07:16sa acknowledgement receipt.
07:17Correct.
07:18Tingin ni Atty. Jose Grapilon,
07:20dean ng Philippine Law School,
07:22at dating pangulo ng Integrated Bar of the Philippines.
07:24Tama.
07:25Ang sinabi ng Depensa na Prosecution dapat
07:27ang magpatunay na alias lamang ang mga pangalan.
07:30May katwiran yung defense dito.
07:32Sige na dapat ang prosecution daw
07:34at mag-prove na alias ito.
07:36Kasi alam naman natin
07:38sa mga criminal cases
07:39kung saan-saan,
07:40kung ano,
07:41lalo na sa
07:43violation of the revised penal code,
07:44may mga alias na ginagamit.
07:46Aka, di ba?
07:47Aka.
07:48Aka.
07:49O.
07:49Ano yun?
07:50Acceptable yun sa mga cases
07:53na pagpa-file.
07:54Sa pagtatanong ng mga senador,
07:56sinabi ng Depensa
07:57na alias o ano ang mga pangalan.
07:59Kung totoong mga
08:00alias itong mga ito,
08:02may senaryo po ba
08:03na maaaring mag-declassify
08:05ng mga confidential information
08:07or documents
08:08in court,
08:09in open court?
08:10Depende.
08:11Kasi
08:12ang sasabihin ng permit
08:13ng confidential funds
08:17o confidential report ay
08:18it is a matter of
08:20national security concern.
08:22Kapag sinabi mo na yun,
08:24medyo malakas na na
08:25hindi mag-divulge,
08:27hindi mag-bear
08:28ng facts
08:29at saka kung anuman.
08:30Sabi niyo po kasi
08:31parang pwedeng gamitin
08:32yung argument
08:33ng national security.
08:34Yes.
08:35Pero wala ho bang
08:36nag-override sa argument
08:38ng national security?
08:39It's always the truth
08:40which overrides
08:41anything.
08:43Unang beses
08:43binanggit ng Depensa
08:44na alias nga
08:45ang pangalan
08:46sa acknowledgement receipt.
08:47Paglililaw nila,
08:48I think that should be clarified.
08:50What was first stated was
08:51these are
08:53classified information.
08:55But again,
08:56we don't want to
08:57go into that.
08:58The reason being is
09:00premature pa kasi
09:01at this point
09:02of the proceedings.
09:03I think
09:04we stated earlier
09:05that if anything,
09:06burden of proof
09:07naman po yan
09:08ang prosecution.
09:09Ang prosecution naman,
09:10hindi na concerned
09:11kung alias
09:12o hindi
09:12ang ginamit.
09:13Hindi po issue
09:14sa amin
09:15whether
09:16totoong pangalan
09:18or alias
09:20ang nakasulat
09:21sa mga
09:22acknowledgement receipts.
09:24The issue is
09:25whether or not
09:27they complied
09:28with the
09:30requirements
09:31and procedures
09:32in the Joint Circular
09:342015-01.
09:37Isang polis
09:38Maynila
09:39ang tumulong
09:39sa babaeng
09:40ng anak
09:40sa tabi ng
09:40kalsada
09:41sa Malabon.
09:42Nakatakda po
09:43siyang bigyang
09:43pagkilala
09:44ng Manila
09:45Police District.
09:46Saksi
09:47si Darlene
09:48Kahn.
09:52Nakatayo
09:53sa tabing
09:53kalsada
09:53ng Governor
09:54Pasqua Avenue
09:54sa Malabon
09:55ng babaeng
09:55ito
09:56nang bigla
09:56na lang
09:56siyang
09:57mapa-upo.
09:58Agad
09:59siyang nilapitan
09:59at inalalayan
10:00ang mga
10:00tao sa paligid.
10:01Bundis pala
10:02ang babae
10:02at mga
10:03nganak na.
10:04Kita ang
10:05pamimilipit
10:05ng babae
10:06na halos
10:06mapahiga
10:07na sa sahig
10:07dahil sa sakit.
10:09Maya-maya
10:09lumapit
10:10ang isang lalaking
10:10agad na tumulong
10:11sa kanya.
10:13Sa video
10:13ang mga susunod
10:14na tagpo
10:15pero nanganak
10:16na pala
10:16ang babae
10:17sa tabing
10:17kalsada.
10:18Ang lalaking
10:19tumulong
10:19sa kanya
10:20si Patrolman
10:22Roselindo
10:22Delima
10:23ng Santa Cruz
10:23Police Station.
10:24Kwento ni Delima
10:25pawis siya
10:26noon galing duty
10:27nang makita
10:27niya
10:28ang komosyon
10:28sa tabing
10:28kalsada.
10:29Nakita po
10:30kung mga
10:31tao
10:31na nagkakagulo
10:32sa babae
10:33may
10:33ito
10:33na
10:35mid-end po
10:36na
10:36alarma
10:37po.
10:37Kaya
10:38pinagtanong
10:39ko kung
10:39anong
10:40meron
10:40bakit
10:40nagkakagulo
10:42mga
10:43nganak
10:43na.
10:43Pagtingin
10:44ko po
10:44sa
10:45bunit
10:45medyo
10:46nakalabas
10:47na po
10:47yung
10:48buhok
10:49na nakita
10:49na yung
10:50ulo.
10:50Balak
10:51po nilang
10:51isakay
10:52po sa
10:52e-trike
10:53din.
10:54Hindi na po
10:55talaga
10:55kaya
10:55kung
10:56isasakay
10:56sa
10:56e-trike
10:57baka
10:57possible
10:57na
10:58malaglag
10:58yung
10:58baby
10:59or
11:00madistrasya
11:00po.
11:01Pina
11:01priority
11:01ko
11:01na lang
11:02po
11:02yung
11:03kaligtasan
11:03nila
11:04inahida
11:04at
11:05inahirina
11:06po namin
11:07si
11:07mom.
11:08Kwento
11:09ni Delima
11:09wala siyang
11:10medical
11:10training
11:11pero
11:11hindi
11:11siya
11:11nag-atubiling
11:12tubulong
11:12dahil
11:13sa tawag
11:13ng
11:13pangangailangan.
11:15Nag-bigay po
11:16ng lakas
11:17ng
11:17loob
11:17po
11:17sa akin
11:18is
11:18yung
11:19asawa
11:20ko
11:20na
11:20kakapanganak
11:22lang
11:23dito
11:23noong
11:23February
11:24na kung
11:25saan
11:25na
11:26yung
11:27doktor
11:27po
11:27nang
11:27nang
11:28pasis
11:28dito
11:29sa akin
11:29ng
11:29tulog
11:30dinukuha
11:30na po
11:31na
11:31mga
11:33ligtas
11:33na
11:33naipanganak
11:34ang isang
11:34malusog
11:35na baby
11:35girl
11:35agad
11:36niyang
11:36dinala
11:37sa
11:37ospital
11:37ang
11:37mag-ina
11:38ikinatuwa
11:39ng
11:39pamunuan
11:40ng
11:40Manila
11:40Police
11:40District
11:41ang
11:41pagtulong
11:41ni
11:42Delima
11:42at
11:42bibigyan
11:43nila
11:43ng
11:43pagkilala
11:44ang
11:44polis
11:44nakita
11:45natin
11:45yung
11:46ating
11:46compassion
11:46sa
11:47ating
11:48kababayan
11:48nakita
11:48natin
11:49yung
11:49police
11:49pwede
11:49naman
11:49niyang
11:50hindi
11:50tumugon
11:50doon
11:51dahil
11:51unang
11:51una
11:52siya
11:52ay
11:52of
11:52duty
11:53na
11:53at
11:54yung
11:54pagkakataon
11:55na yun
11:55ay
11:56manganak
11:56itong
11:57ating
11:57kababayan
11:58pero
11:58hindi
11:58niya
11:58ito
11:59kinipitbalikat
11:59kung hindi
12:00tinulungan
12:00niya
12:00Pero
12:01para
12:02kay
12:02Delima
12:03higit
12:03pa
12:04sa
12:04anumang
12:04pagkilala
12:05ang
12:05pakiramdam
12:05na
12:06nakatulong
12:06siya
12:06sa
12:06kanyang
12:07kapwa
12:07at
12:08nagampanan
12:09niya
12:09ang
12:09kanyang
12:09tungkulin
12:10na
12:10magsilbi
12:11sa
12:11taong
12:12bayan
12:12Magsabi
12:13lang sa
12:13publiko
12:14magtiwala
12:15po sila
12:16marami
12:16pa rin
12:16kukulis
12:17na may
12:17malasakit
12:18at
12:18tapat
12:19sa
12:19sinumpang
12:19tungkulin
12:20Ako si
12:21Darlene
12:21Kai
12:21ang
12:22inyong
12:22saksi
