00:00Would you recall that when asked, SDO Acosta made a similar admission that, for her part, she transferred the confidential
00:18funds of the Office of the Vice President to Colonel La Chica?
00:24Now, I have an objection, Your Honor. Again, the term used was admission, Your Honor, and we all know that
00:30this is a legal term and has legal implications. We ask that the question be reformed.
00:35Can we modify, Counselor?
00:36I will try to choose a word that will be more palatable for the Defense Counsel to avoid further arguments,
00:42Your Honor.
00:42It's not a question of being palatable, Counselor? It's not a question of being palatable, Counselor. Can we reform?
00:49Yes, Your Honor. So, you recall that SDO Acosta stated that she transferred the entire confidential funds of the OVP
01:01to Colonel La Chica, correct, sir?
01:04Also, Your Honor, objection. This is misleading. I recall, and I was here when Gina Acosta testified, the term used
01:13was disbursement.
01:15And in fact, I recall that she repeatedly asserted that she dispersed, not transferred.
01:20Again, we cannot mislead yung mga nanonood sa atin, transfer and disbursement, et cetera, Your Honor.
01:27We can just refer to the TSN if this is something that will help the prosecutor.
01:32The chair confirms that Gina mentioned disburse. That was one of the questions of the chair.
01:38Thank you, sir. Sige. Tagalogin natin para simple.
01:41So, binigay niya yung pera na hawak-hawak niya na confidential funds as SDO, binigay niya ito lahat kay Colonel
01:50La Chica.
01:51Tama ho ba?
01:55I have to ask now, what's the basis of the question? Filipino and English are both allowed to be used
02:03in this proceeding?
02:04You're presuming my ground for objection.
02:07Kindly finish, Attorney Sela.
02:09Yes, Your Honor. The prosecutor is now again asking the witness about the statement that he did not make, Your
02:20Honor.
02:21And I think counsel knows the ground for objection.
02:25This is hearsay. This is not his declaration.
02:29It doesn't matter, Your Honor.
02:30Attorney J, what do you say?
02:34Your Honor, again, that is not the point here.
02:38That is an independently relevant statement.
02:44So, that was already admitted into the records.
02:47And in fact, that statement was given by the witness herself when she was here.
02:55When she was subjected to cross-examination.
02:58Obviously, not hearsay, you know?
03:00She was here and subjected to cross-examination.
03:02Hence, it cannot be hearsay.
03:05I'm sorry.
03:06I'm sorry, Attorney J.
03:07And the question was very simple.
03:09It was just, does he remember that witness stating that answer?
03:15Well, Your Honor, the hearsay rule does not pertain to the original declarant.
03:21It pertains to the witness on witness stand, Your Honor.
03:28Just to get over this, Attorney Powa, you know where he's headed towards.
03:33Kindly just answer the question.
03:38I heard her say that she disbursed the funds to Colonel La Chica.
03:43Okay, thank you, Attorney Powa.
