00:00The fifth year option for kids to, if they have any eligibility left for them to be able to go
00:05back to college now, those 2022 kids are trying to take advantage of that. And some of these guys are
00:12in the pros here now, and they're trying to come back to college. Like one of the kids is trying
00:15to get back on the LSU judge on Thursday ruled that the SEC and the big 10 can't block these
00:24kids from coming back and playing.
00:26J.Y., do you think this is just going to be a one-time thing that we're going to see
00:30and that the NCAA screwed this up by not having it earlier announced, like, say, in January for these 2022
00:37kids with that fifth year option?
00:39Or do you think this is going to be something that's going to continue on?
00:43Big Sills, always a pleasure to be on with you, my brother.
00:46Listen, I said this when Ross Dellinger got the information, I think in March or April, about the age-based
00:52model that the NCAA was going to institute, meaning the five and five.
00:56It completely screwed everything over.
00:57Now, I had John Fanto on my show, the coach said, with J.Y. last week, and he talked about
01:03it didn't matter.
01:04This lawsuit was coming, and he's probably right.
01:07But they set themselves up for this, the NCAA, by linking a story.
01:11I don't blame Ross.
01:13He's doing his job.
01:14If you get a story, you report it.
01:16So he did his job.
01:18So no one should be knocking Ross, and I'm definitely not.
01:20But the NCAA should have waited until what we call ad drop.
01:23Usually at the beginning of a semester, it's about a three- or four-week period where you could add
01:28courses or drop them without loss of credit.
01:32They should have waited until after the ad drop, and then that would have at least took care of football
01:37in regards to that,
01:39and it would have took care of the first semester of college basketball.
01:43Now, it would have pushed lawsuits back, but in the two biggest generating sports, football and men's basketball,
01:50it would have at least curtailed and pushed back the lawsuits to the point where these guys wouldn't have been
01:55eligible for the fall semester of 2026.
01:59Joey, doesn't college basketball have the ability for kids, if they're going to get drafted,
02:04don't they have a chance to go through a process and give that process a shot?
02:08And if they see that they're not going to be a lottery pick or they're not going to be a
02:12first-round pick,
02:13they get the opportunity to go back to college.
02:15Could you see a compromise like that in college football where you go through the process?
02:19Maybe you go through the combines.
02:20Maybe you get an understanding, and all of a sudden the NFL guys say,
02:24listen, you may be a late-round draft choice, and then you get the opportunity to go back to college
02:29because right now you're not afforded that if you declare.
02:32Do you think the NFL and college football could come to a compromise like that?
02:37I think they're going to have to consider it, Big Sills, because of the fact that the draft taking place
02:42in April,
02:43you know, allow kids to go and put their names in a draft.
02:46And to me, if you don't get drafted, right, and then you don't sign a contract,
02:52even if it's undrafted for ages like an NBA, I think that you have not exhausted your eligibility.
02:59Now, the thing you have to realize is these college kids is, hey, you better be going to class.
03:04You better be staying in school.
03:06You better be keeping your academics up.
03:08And I think that's my biggest problem, Big Sills, with this whole 5-5 model.
03:13I'll give you an example.
03:14I looked at the game yesterday.
03:16North Carolina had a kid in year 7 in college football playing, okay?
03:22You look at their situation, if A.J. Storr, if you don't know A.J. Storr, look him up.
03:26He is, ready, folks, going to his 9th school in 9 years, 4 years of high school, 5 different colleges.
03:33Now, here's the thing.
03:34We claim that these are student-athletes.
03:37Now, we know they're actually pros, let's be honest.
03:39This is like the minor leagues.
03:40But if they're a student-athlete, you tell me, folks, and maybe I'm wrong,
03:45can I go to 5 different schools in 5 years and come out with a degree?
03:49No.
03:50They've got to get guardrails, Big Sills.
03:52And this is the last of NIL.
03:54They've got to get guardrails.
03:55Here's what I think they propose.
03:57We're going to see a union at some point.
03:59We've got to figure it out between public and non-public schools, because that's going to be tricky.
04:03But the other part is, I think you make these kids sign multi-year deals,
04:08two, three-year deals with opt-outs.
04:11But if you opt-out and you leave, you have to get a prorated portion of your NIL money back
04:18to that university.
04:19I also think you need to do something else.
04:21We worry about the mid-majors in college basketball, and we worry about the non-power fours in football,
04:26and these kids transferring up.
04:28Hey, you know what?
04:29Let's do it like some of the European leagues.
04:31If a kid goes from school A to school B, then that school B needs to send money back to
04:38school A.
04:38So that can take care of the mid-major programs.
04:41If they're going to become the minor leagues, right, big sales, and just funnel kids to the higher programs,
04:47then they need something to help them compete on the long term.
