00:02Okay, today Dr. Ian Lloyd finished his examination in chief and the cross
00:13examination was conducted by DPP Tuan Akari and re-examination after that.
00:19So dalam pada itu, pihak pembelaan telah menutup kes, right?
00:26We have no other witnesses to call. We close our case and the court has set down tiga hari bulan
00:34of September
00:36untuk pemfailan ujahan bertulis.
00:40Mahkamah mahu mendengar submission secara oral iaitu ditetapkan pada lapan hari bulan September
00:49lapan hari bulan September untuk ujahan oral. Kita balik semula ke sini.
00:54Right? So dalam pada itu, kes ini akan mengambil kira, mengambil kira keterangan pakar Dr. Ian Lloyd
01:07dalam menentukan isu sama ada penama waras atau tidak ataupun mempunyai penyakit mental.
01:20Itu adalah dari segi kapasiti doktor memberi keterangan berkenaan medical insanity.
01:28Isu sama ada seorang penama itu telah melakukan kesalahan atau tidak dan sama ada dia dikatakan
01:38legally insane di bawah seksyen 84. Itu adalah satu keputusan oleh mahkamah.
01:46Right? So mahkamah mengambil kira keterangan pakar dan keterangan surrounding circumstances, etc.
01:53in coming to a conclusion. Okay?
01:56So that determination is both a combination of understanding the medical condition
02:01and then making a legal finding sama ada dia tahu apa dia buat sama ada atau tidak.
02:05Right? Pada ketika itu.
02:06So that is the decision to be made at the end of the day.
02:09Okay? On the what they call the aid, we will having filed the submission,
02:15we will then come in here and clarify any questions that the court may have.
02:18We expect a decision date to be somewhere this coming September month.
02:24So katalah lepas hari bulan, 8 hari bulan, mahkamah lepas itu akan membuat satu penentuan
02:32berapa lama diperlukan untuk membaca dan membuat satu keputusan.
02:38Okay?
02:38We expect roughly around 2 minggu, depending on how long it takes for the judge to read everything
02:46because it's quite extensive, and then come up to a situation where she can make a complete
02:53dapatan mahkamah, finding.
02:55Okay?
02:55So on that day, 8, I can then tell you the final date after that.
03:00Okay?
03:01That's it for now.
03:02Okay?
03:02We have now come to the end of this case, and this case has actually been one of the fastest
03:09in terms of the speed.
03:12Most cases, especially in the state of Selangor, or any other state, would not even start
03:19in under one year of the offense.
03:22Here we have finished under one year of the offense, right?
03:26And it has been an understanding of both the pendawaan dan pembelaan, dan juga mahkamah
03:33bahawa kes ini diberi priority kerana isu bahawa saksi-saksi ada ramai yang merupakan
03:41kanak-kanak, itu saksi saja, penama juga, right?
03:46Mengambil kira usia penama dan sebagainya.
03:48So, ini adalah satu kes yang diberikan bukan saja keutaman, tapi merupakan satu asas
03:56kepada semua perbicaraan akan datang yang ada kena-mengena dengan saksi kanak-kanak
04:02ataupun penama yang dituduh.
04:06This will be the benchmark case, I think.
04:08Kesemua isu-isu psikosis atau minder telah dibentangkan dengan penuhnya.
04:14And I think that by the time the judgment finally comes out, keputusan muktamad diberikan
04:20dan satu keputusan bertulis diberikan, kita akan dapat melihat ke semua intipati
04:31jenis-jenis kesakitan dan juga kenyataan daripada doktor.
04:37Saya harap semua orang yang mendapat tahu tentang kes ini, janganlah membuat keputusan sendiri
04:44tanpa mengambil kira apakah yang sebenarnya berada di dalam minda penama tersebut.
04:50Saya tidak akan membuat apa-apa suggestion tentang apa yang patut dibuat oleh mahkamah.
04:58Dapatan mahkamah itu adalah keputusan mahkamah.
05:00Tapi keterangan-keterangan semuanya menunjukkan kepada intipati Seksyen 84
05:07karena kesiksaan, iaitu pembelaan tidak warasai.
05:12Oh ya, today we have one more additional witness.
05:15Not witness, sorry.
05:17The watching brief council for the family was present.
05:23Okay?
05:23Throughout the entire proceedings, the prosecution stage and the defense stage,
05:30how will you take the evidence of the issue?
05:35I think the Pernama sat quietly and there is an interpreter for the language
05:41that we requested for and was present to translate the proceedings to him.
05:46So he is full understanding.
05:47Of course his parents are in court too, to explain to him anything that needs clarification.
05:52And we as his council, we will also elaborate to him.
05:55But he is aware of what's going on, but he remains quiet throughout the period.
