00:01No receipt.
00:03This is not a receipt.
00:04This is a case of Gina Acosta,
00:05special dispersing officer
00:07of the Vice President
00:09at Food Aid
00:12with 75 million pesos
00:14confidential funds.
00:16This is a case of that security officer
00:18of OVP,
00:19Colonel Raymond Lachica,
00:21who is a case of the project.
00:23The security officer
00:27is to liquidate
00:29itong pinambilin ng medical
00:30at saka food supplies.
00:33May kabilang po bang resibo doon
00:35o wala? Official receipt o wala po?
00:38Acknowledgement receipt lang po,
00:39Your Honor. Kasi po sa
00:41So wala pong official receipt.
00:43Yung lang po yung tanong ni attorney Ligudan.
00:45So wala pong binigay na official receipt
00:47yung security officer sa inyo.
00:49Kaugnay sa kabuhang halagang ito
00:51ng 75 million sa purchase
00:53of supplies, medical and food aid.
00:56Acknowledgement receipt po,
00:57Your Honor. So wala pong OR.
00:59Alam niyo, alam niyo naman po,
01:00mami, ibig sabihin ng OR, di ba?
01:01Opo, Your Honor.
01:02So wala pong official receipt.
01:04Wala po, Your Honor.
01:06Dahil dito,
01:07tinanong si Akosa
01:08kung hinanapan niya
01:09si Lachica
01:10ng official receipt
01:11na mahalagang dokumento
01:12sa liquidation
01:13ng confidential funds.
01:15Ba't hindi kayo naghahanap?
01:18Galing kay Colonel Lachica.
01:19Hindi niyo ba naisip, ma'am?
01:21Colonel Lachica,
01:23kahit ba yung pagbili ng gamot,
01:27yung pagbili?
01:28Is this an advertisement?
01:32Biogesic?
01:34Paracetamol?
01:36Ba't hindi tayo magproduce ng official receipt?
01:40Ano po yung napaka-confidential
01:45kung saan binili?
01:48Biogesic?
01:49Paracetamol?
01:51Ano yung confidential?
01:52Hindi mo ba naisip,
01:53tanungin
01:54kay Colonel Lachica yan?
01:57Objection, Your Honor.
01:59Compound and argumentative, Your Honor.
02:02I'll allow it for now,
02:04Counsel.
02:08Kindly answer,
02:09Ms. Gina.
02:11Hindi niyo ba naisip,
02:12humingi ng OR?
02:14Your Honor,
02:16As I browse
02:18or as I verify po
02:22ng mga acknowledgement receipt
02:24na binigay sa akin ni
02:26SO Officer
02:27Colonel Lachica,
02:30naitanong ko po siya
02:32kasi may
02:35napansin po ako na
02:37ang iba,
02:38walang date,
02:40walang name,
02:42may perma.
02:42Ang sagot naman sa akin ni
02:45SO Officer,
02:47Ma'am Gina,
02:48kung ano man ang
02:49binigay ko sa'yo
02:51ng mga dokumento,
02:54yun na yun.
02:55Kasi,
02:56ang
02:56ang mga
02:58ang mga
02:59transaction
03:00o ang operation
03:01doon is very sensitive
03:03information.
03:05Sensitive information po,
03:07Ma'am Gina.
03:08At saka,
03:09confidential po ito.
03:11Kaya,
03:11kung ano ang
03:14binigay ko siya yun
03:16ng mga
03:16acknowledgement receipt,
03:18yun po, yun.
03:20Pero hindi rin masabi ng
03:22Costa kung tunay na
03:23naibigay ni Lachica
03:24ang confidential funds
03:25sa mga nakatalang recipient.
03:28Nakita mo ba si
03:30Colonel Lachica
03:31na nagbigay ng
03:33100,000 pesos
03:35in confidential funds
03:37sa isang
03:38Antonio
03:39Pagong?
03:40Yes or no?
03:41Nakita mo ba si
03:42Colonel Lachica
03:43nagbigay ng
03:44perang iyan
03:44100,000 pesos
03:46to Antonio Pagong?
03:48Nakita mo ba siya
03:49o hindi?
03:50Hindi ko siya nakita,
03:51yun.
03:51Tinanong na
03:52Sen. Judge Erwin Tulfo
03:53sa Acosta
03:54kung hindi siya
03:55nagdalawang isip
03:56sa mga paliwanag
03:57ni Lachica,
03:57lalo na at limitado
03:58ang detaling ibinigay nito
03:59kabilang ang mga
04:00kakaibang pangalan
04:01sa acknowledgement receipts.
04:03Alam niyo po yung mga
04:04pangalang
04:04Mary Grace Piatos,
04:06Chippy Mcdonald,
04:07Pusa, Pagong,
04:08Ngit-ngit,
04:09Belat,
04:10na hindi po totoo
04:11mga tao ito
04:12na mga totoong pangalan.
04:13Alam niyo po yun?
04:15Na-encounter ko po yun yun.
04:17At tanong ko po,
04:17alam niyo na hindi po totoo
04:19Chippy Mcdonald din yun,
04:20I'm sure.
04:23Nag-rely po ako sa...
04:26Hindi po.
04:27Common sense lang po.
04:29Pusa, Pagong.
04:30May apelido bang
04:30Pusa, Pagong sa Dabao?
04:34Wala po akong narinig na
04:36kanyan, Your Honor.
04:38Pero alam mo na ito po
04:39hindi totoo mga pangalan.
04:43Totoong tao po sila...
04:44Totoo pa nga,
04:45pero hindi po totoong pangalan.
04:48Yes po, Your Honor.
04:50So,
04:51taggap mo rin po ang rason
04:52ni Colonel Lachiga na
04:53huwag ka na magtanong
04:54kasi confidential
04:55intelligence,
04:56confidential fan dyan.
04:57Hindi ka pwede magtanong.
04:58Despite the fact
04:59na ikaw ang dispersing officer
05:01at baka sumabit ka.
05:03So, hindi mo na tinanong
05:04ano ba talaga ito,
05:05Colonel?
05:06At delikado,
05:07ito baka sumabit ako.
05:09Eh,
05:09tama na ba yung sagot niya?
05:10Huwag ka na magtanong.
05:11Tumahimik ka na lang dyan
05:12dahil confidential fan dyan.
05:14Eh, ikaw ang dispersing officer.
05:15Meron po siyang binigay sa akin,
05:17Your Honor,
05:18na fund utilization yung report po,
05:21Your Honor.
05:22Aside po sa pagbiberify ko sa kanya
05:24kung ano,
05:26bakit ito ang pangalan,
05:27Your Honor.
05:28Kasi,
05:29confidential in nature po yun,
05:31Your Honor.
05:32Ganito rin ang punto
05:33ni Senator Judge Raffi Tulfo.
05:34Lalo na patuloy na konekustyon
05:36ng mga kakaibang pangalan
05:37ng mga recipient
05:38ang confidential funds.
05:39Kasi,
05:40sa isang normal na tao,
05:41kapag siya'y binigyan,
05:43bilang isang SDO tulad sa inyo,
05:45ng listahang pangalan
05:46ng mga informants na
05:49bilat,
05:51pagong,
05:51at pusa,
05:52papalaga.
05:53Ano ba ito,
05:55Kernel?
05:55Mukhang hindi atatama ito,
05:57bastusa na ito.
05:58Di po ba?
05:59Para sa normal na tao.
06:01Am I right?
06:02Nag-relial po ako sa,
06:04sinadmit po sa akin
06:05ng security officer,
06:07Your Honor.
06:07Kaya nga po,
06:09bilang isang normal na tao,
06:10ulitin ko,
06:11pag nakakita kayo
06:12ng gano'ng pangalan,
06:13bilat,
06:14pagong,
06:15pusa,
06:15etc.
06:17Bilat.
06:18Okay, bilat.
06:19Same.
06:20Magugulat ka,
06:21di ba?
06:24Magugulat po.
06:25Madam Witness,
06:27meron akong
06:28kopya dito
06:29na kung saan
06:31maraming pangalan
06:32na mga informant
06:32at iisa lang po
06:33ang pirmah.
06:34So, if you're a normal
06:35or average person,
06:37papalag ka na naman.
06:39Teka muna,
06:39Colonel,
06:40bakit ganito?
06:41Bastusa na ito,
06:42lukuhan ito.
06:43Iba-ibang mga pangalan
06:45pero isa lang po
06:45ipirma.
06:47Hindi ako nagtaka?
06:48Piniripay ko po yun
06:49si Colonel Lachica,
06:52Your Honor.
06:52At ang sagot naman niya
06:54sa akin,
06:55Ma'am Gina,
06:56those are
06:57sensitive information,
06:59Ma'am Gina.
07:00At saka,
07:01confidential in nature po yun.
07:06So,
07:06naniwala kayo sa sinabi niya
07:08na
07:09confidential in nature
07:10kahit na
07:11isa lang signature
07:12sa napakaraming pangalan.
07:13So, you took his word for it.
07:15Kasi siya po
07:16ang nag-implement
07:17sa mga
07:18confidential activities,
07:19Your Honor,
07:20on the grounds.
07:21Siya po
07:21ang inatasan
07:22na mag-implement.
07:23Siya po ang
07:24siya ang implementer po,
07:26Your Honor.
07:26So, for me,
07:27in this case,
07:28you are stupid
07:29in the name of blind loyalty.
07:30Ano po yun?
07:32Naging stupido kayo
07:34sa ngala ng isang
07:35tinatawag na
07:35blind loyalty.
07:36Nakapikit
07:37kung ano yung sinasabi sa'yo
07:38nang nakakataas,
07:39sinusunod mo na lang.
07:41Stupido ka pa rin,
07:42pero,
07:43hindi na yung blind loyalty.
07:45Would you agree?
07:47Hindi ko maintindihan,
07:48Your Honor.
07:48I'm sorry.
07:50Umasa rin sa Akosa
07:51sa fund utilization
07:52ay sinumitin nila Chika
07:53kaugnay ng pagrenta
07:55ng mga safe house
07:55na nagkakahalaga
07:56ng 16 million pesos.
07:58Matapos
07:59ang dalawang beses
08:00sa pagsalang
08:01sa witness stand
08:01ni Gina Acosta
08:03na tapos na
08:03ang direct
08:04at cross-examination
08:06sa kanya.
08:06Gayun din,
08:07ang interjection
08:08ng mga center judge.
08:09Bernard Ferrer
08:10para sa bayan.
08:12nang mga center jat
