00:00all right thanks to jeremy auto for that b minus update uh welcome in uh i'm kidding that's a d
00:06minus open that's fair we'll see i don't know if this topic's gonna work we're gonna try it though
00:13we'll get to the lions at three why because it's preseason but brendan shabath joins me today and
00:19look i watched the press conference for msu's new athletic director wow frankie bartholomew or
00:28whatever his name is i don't care but i watched why i don't know i felt like i was i
00:34owed my i owed it
00:35to the audience let me at least do this and while he seems energetic seems like a nice guy said
00:42a lot
00:42of good things i did come away with one question because you're still all in it you still love
00:47college sports you're not out you're just not you're in for spartan fans i think more spartan
00:54fans are like me than you i want to ask a question to everyone and maybe you can help get
01:00them back
01:01to the family brendan what does dan bartholomew need to do to get you back what would get you
01:10back to spartan football i mean back to where they're not selling 20 tickets to the u-dub game
01:16it's essentially their dave brandon moment to where you wanted to go to the games that you did carve
01:23time aside to watch and again please don't waste my time and say well win more no no no those
01:32days are
01:32done the days of winning nine games and getting a new year's day bowl and feeling halfway decent about
01:39your season are over you are either the prom queen or you're nothing so i just i wanted to ask
01:47you
01:47because look i thought he was more personable than jay bat i i like that he didn't shy away from
01:54talking the talk but i don't know if he's going to be able to do what needs to be done
01:59and i don't
01:59know where people are i said this to rico a couple weeks ago there's no buzz college football season
02:04there's not and of course a bunch of butthurt michigan fans got all upset on ticket text and
02:09it's like guys what are you excited about i don't know a michigan fan who thinks this team is some
02:1611 and 1 relevant team they're not maybe 9 and 3 maybe 8 and 4 that's if that's if underwood
02:23can
02:23play but i wanted to ask you and i want to ask the people msu football is a completely forgotten
02:30entity in metro detroit if i ranked out one to eight on order of importance our pro teams
02:36and then michigan football and basketball state football and basketball msu football would come
02:42in eighth and a distant one they lost me years ago what does this new guy what does that program
02:51have to do to get you back i like what you said about not winning more and i forget the
02:59exact
02:59phrasing you use but you either have to be would you say the bell of the ball i'm queen or
03:03you're
03:03nothing right exactly i that's the winning more that i need from michigan state football in order
03:11to be back i'm always going to be invested in michigan state basketball that's the team that i
03:17covered that's fair very devotedly while i was there that's my sport that's the team i'm always going
03:23to watch even after time is those long gone you know and who knows where college athletics will be
03:28when that eventually happens but i'm going to bring up a name that you know i think michigan
03:33state fans are not going to want to hear that michigan fans will probably laugh at and that's
03:37okay with me you need to get to the similar place and trajectory where they were in 2021 under mel
03:45tucker
03:46that was a michigan state team that was 11 and 2 over the season and won the peach bowl and
03:54really
03:54should have been 12 and won they completely flopped in that game against purdue on the hangover from
03:59beating michigan in the biggest rivalry matchup ever but that's a michigan state team that had all
04:05their trajectory all the hype and was competing off the field at an elevated level around the country
04:13in recruiting in funding this is very very very early nil days and they had a lot of momentum and
04:22of
04:22course it all falls apart the very next year with tucker and everybody else pants on right exactly
04:28and so that's you know again off the field issues that are that are not they don't have anything to
04:32do with it but as far as on the field product goes that's a michigan state team that was so
04:37much fun to
04:37watch and that you could definitely you would set aside time in your week in your day to watch that
04:44and follow them let's be clear too there was an extra factor both for michigan in 21 and michigan
04:49state is we were all starved for the real thing we lied to ourselves and talked about all right
04:54college football's back sort of i mean let's think about this i paid to have a cardboard doug karsh in
05:01the end zone at michigan state i did i had a picture of doug in christmas pajamas and there was
05:06a
05:07cardboard karsh in the end zone of spartan stadium like we were coming out of it was pretty dire is
05:12what
05:12you're saying yeah yeah so it was it was like sensory overload to have that back and both teams were
05:18very
05:18good i think that was a big part of it too michigan state was as good as they were and
05:22a top 10 team
05:23in the country while michigan was at the same time right so my question is this though because
05:28there are people like me i listened to dan bartholomew talk and we could play some of the audio and
05:34i'm
05:34not being disrespectful what i said to rico the other day what i said to stoney and i'll say it
05:39to you
05:39he can you can your update the other day where you're like look he's a sagittarius we're gonna
05:45get to this by the way this we're getting to this later you're like he's he's popular at his church
05:51record gpas he's a scratch golfer i go i don't give a rip about any of this he either gets
05:57msu spending
05:5840 million dollars a year in football or he could take it down the road but i don't even know
06:03if that
06:04would get people like me back because of where the sport is gone but i wanted to ask everybody
06:11today it's like the day after it you know what what will it take to bring you back to spartan
06:17football it might be an unanswerable question because we might be too far gone because to let
06:23the audience in on pre-show we were going back through old college football highlights from pre-my
06:29birth but your heyday right and these are a lot of names i don't know but some of them i
06:35do i want
06:35to state for the record this is important for my old heads out there we were discussing something i
06:41forget how this came up and chris johnson chris johnson and i said oh man did you ever see his
06:46400
06:47yard game in the hawaii bowl and then it's black and white footage that mike brings up but it is
06:52standard def and shout out jaguars legend david garrard at quarterback but we went from that to
06:58ladanian tomlinson grainy footage in the whack we went to michael bishop that's that's who i was
07:04most impressed by even gave me a little davis at iowa state with jumbo shoulder pads yes but no i
07:09but unless there's monumental legal change contractual change within college athletics
07:17the protect college sports act or these antitrust or whatever unless there's monumental change in that
07:22we are never getting back to the days of the highlights that you and i were watching before the
07:27show today no you won't even get back to 2021 and you might so you just might not ever come
07:31back
07:31and that's why i'm asking people because there's an element of this is let's say dan bartholomew is
07:36the real mccoy i have no idea he did great things at western lord knows your update the other day
07:40told
07:41me all about them the point is like even if msu turned into the most expensive hooker market in
07:48america it's not going to replace what was lost you asked me can you name how many d linemen could
07:54you name on this team and i said ben roberts question mark only because he was on the team
08:00last year blew out and i think he's back you can you can have the most expensive players but they're
08:06not
08:06your players they're just placeholders right but i want to know from fans and i understand this is a
08:14provocative choice by by shabath and i to open up with a michigan state football question but i thought
08:20it was relevant based on the ad talking you're not helping the sparty radio allegations right now
08:26well first of all the that is one of and and i mean this if you did a blind rank
08:33of the dumbest
08:35narratives about this show that's probably number one it's up there i generally use msu as a urinal
08:43when i come on the air i unzip and let fly name a time i have defended msu inappropriately
08:51versus giving them a noogie right on top of their head like that's the dumbest thing yeah but it's
09:00dumb people who say it so you have to forgive them exactly what's what's the saying about the
09:04average american the george carlin one and half are dumber than that right exactly that's the whole
09:09point i'm sorry david i just want to make sure you're on your game uh do you want to play
09:14some
09:14audio for us go ahead just just i want people to get to hear from the new way i mean
09:19it's the typical
09:19audio you get from a press conference when you introduce it really is so here we go all right
09:24never settle for less he says
09:47oh dear listen mike i love michigan state and you know this that that place is my home you're out
09:54of your mind absolutely even i and then i like bartholomew i like the hire i like what he said
10:00yesterday a little cringy that one is cringy that that specific soundbite and some of the others that
10:06are like it are like all right dude never settle for less cut scene here's our line backer room you
10:11arrived 12 minutes ago from kalamazoo like yeah take it easy right um but david one more because i i
10:19want
10:19to hear from people look there are plenty of people out there the biggest misnomer is it's all
10:24wolverines down here it's not it's just state fans are at work there's a difference david i'm just
10:31keeping you on your toes plus i made paul laugh that's all i care about no i just would like
10:36to know
10:37is there anything bartholomew can do to bring you back or is the sport so far gone plus the program
10:44has fallen off a cliff you've moved on i admit it i've just moved on i'll go to one game
10:51this fall
10:51because uncle mike has a job to do yes and my i just i'll do that for my niece and
10:56nephew but like
10:58i it used to that used to be one of the most important places in my life and now it's
11:04it's it's
11:05nothing i just i don't care yeah there's no emotional attachment anymore and i think it's in part
11:12because we're exhausted with the news cycle of this sport we are exhausted with the roster turnover
11:18to the point that you brought up earlier i think that the only thing that could really bring them
11:22back is a football season of success that you know we have someone on this show who i think is
11:27actually
11:27a good person to look at and that's paul sarah and the miami hurricanes michigan state did what miami did
11:33last year they go on some sort of crazy run with a likable fun team that admittedly has flaws but
11:41can perform well and go go to the national championship game if they were to do something
11:45like that and then be a top 15 top 10 team next year they'd have to double the pay i'd
11:50be bought
11:50into the next yes that's the problem put put a dollar sign on it whatever it is that they're
11:54going to have to reach a certain amount of spending and funding to get there you know paul almost hit
11:58the fan portal he almost became an fiu fan he's a big pit bull guy he looked around the corner
12:03he
12:03says no thank you pit bull stadium 248539 97 97 we'll get to the people i'm happy to talk about
12:12it
12:12and look if you're already in it and you're excited fine again i'm not levying judgment i just i don't
12:20know if there's anything they could do because i actually just think the university is run by a
12:25collection of clowns so fine show me show me a stadium you know you know what bartholomew should
12:31have shown up with a power washer get to work at the stadium this is how you earn your salary
12:36go
12:37wash that thing that's the easy answer to your question how do you how do you get bought back in
12:41brand new football stadium i mean you kind of seen it across america and then you get to state
12:48and it's a sad trombone all right we'll get to the people next 97 one
12:52cool
12:52yeah
12:52yeah
12:52yeah
