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Is this list missing any of college football's greatest villains?
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00:00Good morning. It's a Friday. We got cookie jar coming up at 735.
00:05We got a baseball team within a game of a playoff spot.
00:09And we continue to try to get closer to college football in our hearts and minds.
00:14ESPN is going to help us do it. They have a list of the top college football villains of all
00:19time.
00:20And number one is a former coach of John Jansen.
00:24Who I agree with.
00:27Oh, you do think is one of the all-time villains?
00:30Yes.
00:30I want to go through this list and I want you guys to think about who would be your number
00:34one college football villain and we'll see where they end up.
00:37Maybe they're not on the list at all because I think they're missing a pretty obvious name.
00:42Number 10 is Caleb Williams.
00:45I didn't think he had a big enough footprint to be one of the biggest villains in college football.
00:49I didn't think so either.
00:50Number nine is Deion Sanders.
00:54So is this just... I didn't see him as a villain.
00:59I didn't either nor did I see number eight as a villain.
01:02Tim Tebow.
01:03I feel like he was seen as like a hero, right?
01:06This heroic team leader.
01:08Yeah.
01:08Rah, rah speech.
01:10Okay.
01:11Number seven is ESPN themselves.
01:16Says perhaps you've heard we hate your team.
01:17It doesn't matter what that team is.
01:21Number six is Notre Dame.
01:23All-time college football villains.
01:26Then I think we start making some sense.
01:28Number five is the 1990s Miami Hurricanes.
01:33All-time college football villains.
01:35Number four is the Boz, Brian Bosworth.
01:37Number three is Johnny Manziel.
01:40Okay.
01:41Now we're getting somewhere.
01:42Number two is Lane Kiffin.
01:44Number one, all-time college football villain, Steve Spurrier.
01:55His trash talk, his arrogance at the college level obviously didn't translate to the NFL.
02:01Got his doors blown off on a regular basis.
02:05They referenced the trash talk.
02:07He called FSU free shoes university.
02:12He did not like Tennessee.
02:13He held an eternal grudge against them and he said, you can't spell citrus without UT.
02:20He's the all-time villain to you.
02:22I don't know that he's the all-time villain, but I think he's got to be top five.
02:29He hid from playing against Miami until they were bad.
02:33Yeah.
02:34Look at Paul, Sarah.
02:35He should be on the list.
02:36He shouldn't be number one.
02:38Who should be number one?
02:39I get that.
02:39That's what I wanted to get to.
02:40Well, there's some guys on this list that I don't think are that should be there like
02:44Barry Switzer and his time at Oklahoma.
02:48Like he was seen as a villain.
02:54Yeah.
02:54And Nebraska was the more cleaner cut program.
02:57Tom Osborne holier than thou would never do anything to cheat.
03:01Yeah.
03:01Well, speaking of cheating, you know who should be on this list?
03:04Jim Harbaugh.
03:05Yes.
03:06I make sure I'm the first one to say it.
03:08Jim Harbaugh.
03:10I thought that too as I'm reading through this.
03:13And look, it's a pretty big omission to me.
03:21Look, cheater staff of show causes up and down the roster.
03:27He's always been a thorn, though.
03:29Go back to the Stanford days.
03:30Remember him and Pete Carroll and he's going for two when he's up big and what's your deal?
03:34Jim Harbaugh is one of the all-time college football villains.
03:38How's he not on this list?
03:40How's Urban Meyer not on this list?
03:44Like you start, I think this list is only...
03:46Just look at the roster that he had in Florida.
03:49Like you had to be a villain to be on the roster.
03:51If you didn't have a rap sheet, you didn't belong.
03:52Tebow was the only guy with a soul or a conscience.
03:55Right.
03:55Which is why I don't understand why Tim Tebow's on it and not his coach.
04:00So I think this list is eh.
04:03There's some guys that make sense.
04:05There's some that not.
04:05But it gives us a jumping off point to do it better and to ask you guys so we can
04:10actually do this properly.
04:13So yeah, who is the biggest villain?
04:15Who have been the biggest villains?
04:16Who's not on this list that 100% should be on the list?
04:20So listen, all my college football memory and history, if you really want to pick number one,
04:25it is that 1990s Hurricanes team.
04:28And they lost one game that regular season and were so mad about it,
04:33they went to the Cotton Bowl to play, I think it was A&M.
04:37And they won 46-3 and had 225 yards in penalties with tons of personal fouls.
04:44And as Paul told me, and I remember this,
04:47the NCAA used that game film as for the college kids like a symposium the next season.
04:52This is what you're not supposed to do.
04:55They were just ridiculous villains.
04:57It was probably the best moment of the U 30-for-30,
05:00like when they talked about that team in my mind.
05:03How's Jim Trestle not on this list?
05:05Yeah, that's a good point, too.
05:06I mean, he laid it down when he spoke at the basketball game after he was hired.
05:11And he said in 318 days, we're going to go up to Ann Arbor.
05:15All right, so just because you're good at what you do doesn't mean you're a villain.
05:19Tattoos?
05:20So, okay, Maurice Claret, Terrell Pryor.
05:23You know, maybe you'd loop them all in together.
05:26If we're going to group in everybody at the U,
05:30when maybe it was just Jimmy Johnson that was the ultimate villain.
05:34How was he not on here?
05:36Yeah, I mean...
05:37Because, I mean, you want to talk about a guy...
05:39You're putting Cain's on there if you wanted to.
05:41Randall Hill?
05:42My goodness.
05:43That wasn't Jimmy Johnson, though.
05:44That was Dennis Erickson.
05:45Jimmy was at the Cowboys by then.
05:46Right, yeah.
05:47Right.
05:47Erickson was a scumbag.
05:51Paul doesn't deny it.
05:52He's not fighting on that.
05:53How about LeGarrette Blunt?
05:54Oh, yeah.
05:56Punching a Boise State player, right?
05:59How did Nick Saban get off this list?
06:01Like, everyone hates Nick Saban to some degree.
06:03That's where I was going to go with, you know,
06:06when you're talking about some of these coaches.
06:09Just because you're good.
06:10Like, we refer to them, that era, as the evil empire.
06:13How do you not have him as the number one villain?
06:17I have some of their, quote, dishonorable mentions.
06:19The people that just missed the list.
06:21They have Baker Mayfield.
06:25Diego Pavia.
06:29Give him a box to stand on.
06:31Vontaze Burfik.
06:33At every level.
06:35Connor Stallions.
06:36Yeah.
06:38Hugh Freeze.
06:39Phillip Fulmer.
06:40Ryan Leaf.
06:41Jameis Winston.
06:42And Maurice Claret.
06:44Ryan Leaf.
06:45There's a good one.
06:46I mean, Ryan Leaf makes a lot of sense.
06:49I don't know why Jameis is on there.
06:50It's because he's weird, I guess.
06:51It's the lobsters.
06:52Well, okay.
06:54Honorable mention, the 05 USC team was not a very fun team.
06:57Like, they were great, but they were kind of annoying.
06:59I loved when Texas beat them for the title.
07:01It was great.
07:02Well, how about if we're going to put some of these other guys at Cam Newton?
07:05Yeah.
07:07You know, his exit from Auburn.
07:10I mean, he had the name Scam Newton.
07:11What else do you need?
07:12Exactly.
07:16Tony Mandridge.
07:17Twitch comment had that, right?
07:18Yeah.
07:19How is Tony Mandridge not on this list?
07:20Yeah.
07:22Echoing, Harbaugh and Meyer should both be on this list.
07:27Reggie Bush.
07:30I mean, people love Reggie Bush because he's got a great personality and what he did.
07:35It was special.
07:36But at the time, if it happened now, it's just cost of doing business.
07:43Joe Mixon, I guess.
07:45Yeah.
07:47Woody Hayes.
07:50Yeah.
07:51I mean, especially how he exited.
07:53Sure.
07:55Text coming in.
07:56248-539-9797.
07:58Urban Meyer has to be number one.
08:00Trent in Millington.
08:01How could a top 10 villain list not have Urban Meyer?
08:04That guy's the worst.
08:05John in Lake Orion.
08:06Baker Mayfield played a good villain, too.
08:09He does belong on this list.
08:10Planting the flag after they beat Ohio State.
08:12I loved that.
08:13But it was villain behavior.
08:15Guys, I hate to say it, but shouldn't Aaron Hernandez be the clear number one?
08:20That's for Marty.
08:21Well, then it goes back to, well, who was his coach?
08:25Number one for me is Jim Harbaugh.
08:27Holier than now.
08:28Underachiever.
08:29Didn't start winning until he started cheating.
08:31Adds losing record against Mel Tucker, by the way.
08:34And the refusal to take accountability for anything.
08:38Oh, I'm in the NFL.
08:38I don't have to answer any questions now.
08:41I'm not going to address that.
08:42The cheating stuff, yes.
08:43It's like, how do Stallions get an honorable mention, but Harbaugh's not on the list?
08:46Yeah.
08:47But to me, it's more than even the cheating.
08:50It's the cheating, and it's all the coaches that you employed in show causes.
08:53But even before the Stallions era.
08:54Or anything that might have been going on in the program at the time.
08:57And when you leave, you leave it in the hands of a guy that's got his own issues.
09:03But I'm even saying pre-COVID Harbaugh was villainous.
09:07Yeah.
09:07I mean, satellite camps, really sticking it to the SEC, the Stanford, USC, Pete Carroll stuff.
09:13There's enough Harbaugh to just be a thorny guy that should be on this list before he cheated
09:18and was effectively banned from the sport with a show cause that's how many years?
09:24Yeah, he should have been on this list, too.
09:26Well, the other name you just said was Pete Carroll.
09:28Pete Carroll dipped out of USC?
09:30The two coaches this century that totally ran for the hills before things got ugly are Jim Harbaugh and Pete
09:36Carroll.
09:37Woody Hayes getting love.
09:38Brian Kelly should be on this list.
09:40Yeah, Brian Kelly with just an irritating personality and changing his accent and then not winning and leaving Notre Dame
09:51the way he did.
09:53Are we forgetting about crab legs with Jameis?
09:56No, John brought it up.
09:57Speaking of irritating personalities for a coach, Dabo Sweeney.
09:59Hey, God, that guy's annoying.
10:01Bring your own guts, baby.
10:05Yeah, but he's really likable to less so.
10:08He was really likable when Clemson first started climbing that mountain.
10:11Yeah, but he just comes across so jaded and bitter now that his program isn't as good as it used
10:17to be.
10:18But has there been anything in his program that you could that we know about that you could raise a
10:22question on?
10:23No, not that's been, you know, suspended, investigated, punished, anything like that.
10:29No, I don't think Dabo would be on this list.
10:31No, I agree that he's become more bitter.
10:34Sure.
10:34I mean, this is not the list of most annoying coaches or most annoying individuals.
10:39Villains all time in college football time is another page of responses.
10:43Let's read some of these.
10:45I think Dion is on the list, but as a coach, not a player.
10:48Kevin at Gallianus.
10:52I brought my own Louie.
10:55Basically, get out.
10:56I got your replacement showing up.
10:59Art Bryles.
11:00Yes.
11:01Brian Kelly, Urban, Jameis, Sue, Hugh Freeze.
11:04That's Joe in Winston-Salem.
11:06How is Paul Feinbaum not on this list?
11:08He's number one with a bullet.
11:10But it's starting to include media members.
11:13It's floppy Dumbo ears.
11:16Watch out.
11:16A lot of Spartans are going to say Mike Hart, Connor Stallions, and Jim Harbaugh.
11:20Now, you can say whatever you want.
11:22I would agree.
11:23I mean, who was when this rivalry between Michigan and Michigan State?
11:29There's always been animosity.
11:31There's always been friction, but it was ratcheted up a ton when Mike Hart came out with the little brother
11:39comment.
11:43Feedback calls cookie jar.
11:46We'll get back into Tiger baseball as the morning rolls on, and Jameer Gibbs thinking a new contract.
11:51We have some thoughts.
11:52It was always going to happen.
11:54It's 97-1.
11:55We'll get back into it.
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