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01:00To a crowning moment, we will indeed crown the greatest Countdown contestant of all time.
01:06So you stick with us over the next few weeks.
01:09The standard... I'm breathless most of the time, actually, Rachel.
01:12And the standard that we've seen really is breathtaking.
01:16What about you?
01:17They're fantastic, aren't they?
01:18And they don't just know the Countdown Dictionary, they know the Scrabble Dictionary as well.
01:22I went to Prague recently for a Scrabble contest and I met loads of people that are coming on in
01:27the next few weeks
01:27and some that have been on the last couple of weeks and they're over there playing Scrabble when they're not
01:30countdowning.
01:31They get everywhere.
01:32Well, Dictionarial, I don't know if that's a word, instead of Encyclopedic Knowledge of the Dictionary.
01:36Brilliant stuff.
01:37So, March the 1st, we will crown the greatest Countdown contestant of all time.
01:42But who have you got with us today?
01:44Will one of those be crowned?
01:46We've got Kyle Aderman, who is a 16-year-old from Heathfield in East Sussex, a pupil at the Heathfield
01:53Community College.
01:53But he was a semi-finalist back in 2008, aged just 11.
01:59And let's see what he looked like and has he grown.
02:01He has a bit, I think.
02:02He has indeed.
02:04And when he appeared way back in 2008, aged just 11.
02:08Extraordinary.
02:09He was in all the papers.
02:10So, what have you been up to since then, Kine?
02:14I've completed my GCSEs, starting A-levels now.
02:17Things looking good?
02:18Yes, it's all going very well at the minute, thanks.
02:20What are you aiming for?
02:22I'm hoping for a maths degree at Oxbridge.
02:26Excellent stuff.
02:27She showed you the way.
02:29Get rid of this bridge stuff.
02:31Very good.
02:32Well, you can have a chat with Rachel.
02:34She'll tell you exactly how it's all done.
02:36And you're joined by John O'Neill, who lives in Raynham in London.
02:40Semi-finalist back in 2005.
02:43Great with the numbers, I understand.
02:45You can beat Rachel, I hear.
02:48Maybe back then.
02:49I've lost a few brain cells since then.
02:51Not really.
02:52Too much time in the pub.
02:54Yeah.
02:54You work as a catastrophe risk assessment.
02:57You're in the right company, because I feel like I'm a bit of a catastrophe at times time.
03:00Yeah.
03:00Is that fun?
03:01You're working out the odds, are you?
03:03Yeah, of like hurricanes, earthquakes, and when they happen, how much damage they're going to cause.
03:08It's reasonably interesting as insurance goes.
03:10I bet it is.
03:11Yeah.
03:12I bet it is.
03:12Tell me this, is a lot of that not computer-based?
03:15Yeah, the models.
03:16It's just data pumping in from around the world.
03:17Yeah, the models, they rely on the data that comes from the insureds, basically.
03:21So, and then we just assess the models and see if they're spitting out results that look likely.
03:27Good.
03:27Well, a lot of money's resting on that, because it all goes through Lloyd's, and if you're a name there.
03:32Yeah, we're on the Lloyd's market.
03:33Yeah.
03:34Excellent stuff.
03:34Well, listen, big round of applause to Kai and John, John O'Neill.
03:44And welcome, as ever, to Susie, and alongside Susie, a lady with a head for pretty much everything.
03:52Pretty much everything.
03:53But I think we've seen you somewhere before.
03:55She's no apprentice.
03:56She's the one and only wonderful Margaret Manford.
04:00Margaret will get you everywhere.
04:02Listen, we've got a lot of time to chat later on, but we've got to get on with the game.
04:07So let's do just that.
04:08Kai, would you be good enough?
04:10Hello, Rachel.
04:11Hi again, Kai.
04:12Can I have a consonant, please?
04:13Of course, thank you.
04:14Start this week with N.
04:16And a vowel.
04:18E.
04:19And a consonant.
04:22D.
04:23And a vowel.
04:26U.
04:26Another vowel.
04:29I.
04:29A consonant.
04:31X.
04:33Another consonant.
04:35R.
04:37Another consonant in place.
04:39P.
04:41And I have a final consonant in place.
04:44And the last one.
04:45W.
04:46And here's the countdown clock.
04:48Hold on to the other one.
04:50Hold on to the next one.
05:16T.
05:19Now then, Kai?
05:20I've got a seven.
05:21A seven.
05:22John?
05:23I'll try a seven.
05:24OK.
05:25Kai?
05:25Unwired.
05:27Unwired.
05:28Two unwired?
05:29Both unwired?
05:30Yeah.
05:31Yes?
05:32Very good.
05:33Happy?
05:34Unwired?
05:34Happy.
05:34This is the standard.
05:36What else have we got?
05:37Well, I don't know whether pre-wined.
05:39It sounds like you'll be able to pre-wine something.
05:41You can't, Margaret.
05:43You can't.
05:43You can pre-wire.
05:44You can pre-wine if you want a drink before dinner.
05:47Or a drink before the drink before dinner.
05:49You can turn it into rewind.
05:51Forget the pre-wine.
05:51Rewind, yes.
05:53Pre-wine.
05:54Never mind.
05:55All right.
05:55So, seven-all.
05:57We're off and running.
05:58John?
05:59Hi, Rachel.
05:59Hi, John.
06:00Can I have a vowel, please?
06:02Start with E.
06:03And another one?
06:05O.
06:06Another one?
06:08A.
06:09And can I have a consonant, please?
06:12W.
06:13A consonant.
06:14S.
06:15A consonant.
06:17V.
06:18A consonant.
06:20T.
06:22A consonant, please.
06:24S.
06:26And can I have a final consonant, please?
06:29And a final G.
06:31Clock time.
06:33S.
06:33A consonant.
07:02Well, John,
07:03seven, and kind?
07:05Just a six.
07:06And your six?
07:07Sweats.
07:08Sweats.
07:09John?
07:09Stowage?
07:11Stowage.
07:11Excellent, yep.
07:13Stowage is the action of stowing something,
07:14or it's the space for stowing something, storage.
07:17All right.
07:18Anything else there, Margaret?
07:19Anything?
07:19No, sadly no.
07:21Stowage.
07:22You might just be able to put the S on stowage.
07:24If I was feeling kind, I might allow it.
07:26It's specified a space for stowing something in,
07:29so arguably you could have more than one,
07:30but I think John's right to stick to the seven.
07:32Seven.
07:34All right.
07:35So, 14 to Kai's seven.
07:37And Kai, off you go.
07:39Okay, I'll have a vowel, please.
07:41Thank you, Kai.
07:42U.
07:43A consonant.
07:46L.
07:47A consonant.
07:49L.
07:50A vowel.
07:52O.
07:54A consonant.
07:56C.
07:57A vowel.
07:58A vowel.
07:59E.
08:00Consonant.
08:02R.
08:04A consonant.
08:06M.
08:07And a final vowel, please.
08:08And a final...
08:10O.
08:11Stand by.
08:12Ass Intel.
08:13A vowel.
08:14A vowel.
08:16A vowel.
08:18And a vowel.
08:27C.
08:29A vowel.
08:32A vowel.
08:40B collegiate.
08:43Kai?
08:44Six again.
08:45Six, John?
08:46Six.
08:47Kai?
08:48Colour.
08:49Yeah.
08:49Cooler.
08:50Cooler.
08:51Anything in the corner?
08:53Just six is for us too, I think.
08:55There is Muller as well.
08:57It's a stone rather heavyweight used for grinding artists' pigments.
09:01Or if you Muller something or someone, you wreck or destroy them.
09:05All right, very good.
09:07So, 13 to 20 with John.
09:10John, take it away.
09:11Can I have a vowel, please?
09:13Thank you, John.
09:14A.
09:15A vowel.
09:16I.
09:17A vowel.
09:19A.
09:20A consonant.
09:22T.
09:23A consonant.
09:24D.
09:26A consonant.
09:27G.
09:28A consonant.
09:31N.
09:32A consonant, please.
09:35S.
09:36And a consonant, please.
09:39And the last one.
09:40M.
09:41And it's countdown.
09:42And it's countdown.
10:11A consonant.
10:11A consonant.
10:11A consonant.
10:12A consonant.
10:14Yes.
10:15John?
10:16I'll try a seven.
10:17Kai?
10:17Seven as well, I think.
10:18Okay.
10:19John?
10:19Masting.
10:20Masting.
10:21I've got the same.
10:22Do you have Masting?
10:23Do you have Masting?
10:24Do you have Masting?
10:25Um.
10:25And in the corner?
10:27Well, I have Masting as well, and I'm just checking it, but it's not in.
10:32I have to say, no to all three of us, I'm afraid.
10:34Anything else?
10:35Well, it's Maidans.
10:37M-A-I-D-A-N-S.
10:39You'll find in South Asia.
10:40Ah, Indian cricket pitches.
10:42Exactly.
10:42Open spaces in or near a town.
10:44So, John's in the lead, 20 to Kai's 13.
10:47And Kai, your numbers game.
10:49I'll have six more, please.
10:50Six more.
10:51Thank you, Kai.
10:51Right, six little ones, and for the first time this week, they are 1, 6, 2, 4, 5, and 8.
11:01And the eagle-eyed viewer might notice our new random number generator.
11:04Let's check if it's working.
11:05First target of the week, 973.
11:08973.
11:41I have 972, not written down.
11:43All right.
11:44And John?
11:46973.
11:46So, let's hear from you first, John.
11:48Okay.
11:49Four fives, 20.
11:50Four fives, 20.
11:52Times 8 is 160.
11:54Add 2.
11:55162.
11:56Multiply that by 6.
11:58972.
11:58And then add 1.
11:59Nicely done, 973.
12:01Ah, brilliant.
12:02Well done.
12:02Well done.
12:07Very good.
12:08But now it's time to turn to you, Margaret.
12:11Well, I was actually going to ask you a question.
12:13Oh, no.
12:14What?
12:15What have the following five things got in common?
12:18Yes.
12:18Throwing confetti.
12:20Yes.
12:20Playing cards.
12:21Yes.
12:22Smoking a cigarette.
12:23Yeah.
12:24Reading a book.
12:25And voting in an election.
12:27Oh, Margaret.
12:27I was going to say catastrophe until we got to reading a book.
12:32Well, it's not that there could be social or antisocial, depending on your perspective.
12:35Go on, tell me.
12:35Well, it's paper.
12:36Of course.
12:37And I heard Professor Sansom talking about his book, Paper and Elegy.
12:42And it made me think about paper and how our use of paper is changing.
12:45Because as you know, I used to be a lawyer.
12:48And even before I started as a lawyer, lawyers were paid by the folio.
12:51So the more paper you actually produced with writing on it, the more you got paid, which
12:55didn't really encourage precision.
12:58But what did encourage precision and accuracy was in the days when you had secretaries, or
13:03more particularly when you didn't have a secretary, but your boss had a secretary, and you had
13:07to prevail on this dragon to do your typing for you.
13:11And it was not appreciated if you were very long-winded, or if you kept making mistakes
13:15and wanting to redo things.
13:16We talk about now having a paperless office.
13:19But before, if there was a contract that had to be agreed between two parties, we had what
13:24was called a travelling draft.
13:26And one copy was produced, one agreement was typed out, sent to the other side, they amended
13:31it in red, it came back, you amended it in green, then it went back, and then there
13:35was a combination of, and I can't remember the order, blue, yellow, there was brown, purple,
13:39whatever. And at the end of the day, this document, which had been backwards and forwards, was typed
13:44out once again, with a carbon copy, signed, and that was it. So there was hardly any waste.
13:51And now, of course, there's emails. Everybody emails everybody all the time. Everybody prints
13:55it out, because it's easier to read. And there's a huge max of paper used. And I thought it's
14:00interesting, and we think now we're moving to a paperless society, and we're certainly moving
14:05towards e-books. I was thinking that perhaps, and it's a bit sad if all the bookshops are
14:11being replaced by coffee shops, and that all we end up with, paper being used for, is disposable
14:16coffee cups.
14:17Yeah.
14:18Do you think that's coming?
14:19Good point. Good point. I'm not sure, but I can't get to grips with the e-book. I want
14:23a book. I want a book. Anyway, thank you very much. But now it's time for a tea time teaser.
14:28And the teaser is, she slaps. And the clue, she slaps the water, making lots of these.
14:35She slaps the water, making lots of these.
14:52Welcome back. I left you with the clue, she slaps the water, making lots of these. And
14:57the answer, of course, is that she makes lots of splashes. Lots of splashes. John, 30
15:03to Kai's 13. So time for Kai to make a bit of a splash. But, first of all, John, it's
15:09your letters game.
15:10Can I have a vowel, please?
15:11Thank you, John.
15:13A.
15:13A vowel.
15:15U.
15:16A vowel.
15:18E.
15:19A consonant.
15:21N.
15:22A consonant.
15:24R.
15:25A consonant.
15:26C.
15:28A consonant.
15:30T.
15:31A vowel, please.
15:34I.
15:35And a consonant, please.
15:38And the last one.
15:39R.
15:40Clock time.
15:40A consonant.
15:43A consonant.
15:44A consonant.
15:56A consonant.
15:57A consonant.
15:58A consonant.
15:58A consonant.
15:58A consonant.
15:58A consonant.
15:58A consonant.
16:00A consonant.
16:01A consonant.
16:02A consonant.
16:04A consonant.
16:12Yes, John seven and Kai I'll stick with seven. Okay, John erratic erratic cut certain
16:20Thank you. We happy over there. Yes, very happy and the else Margaret
16:25Centaur yes, but that's no longer
16:28That's your yeah, that's your line of countries a centaur sort of yes
16:33Isn't it? I mean it's mythical. Yes, I think I've never seen one
16:39Not unless you've had a few pre drinks whatever rewind rewinds. Thank you and the girls
16:45Urinate is there lowering the tone a little bit. Thank you for that seven as well. Sorry. Yeah, that's what
16:50you do when you've had a pre-wine
16:53Anything else? No, thank you. I think we'll probably move on swiftly
16:5737 to 20 says John's in the lead Kai what will you do for us?
17:00Can I have a constant in place? Thank you Kai T and another one
17:07Q and third
17:11R and a vowel
17:14O a vowel I a consonant
17:20N a vowel a
17:25Another vowel
17:28E and finish with a vowel please and finish with a
17:33And they're off
18:04Who's ever
18:04We're gonna keep moving and finish with a student American
18:04But if we can't and terminate it, and you'll find it
18:05Yes, guy eight and eight well done John as well, okay guy aeration aeration John same
18:13Both aerated here in the corner. That's excellent. I'm going to get
18:24Anything leading up to aid
18:25That's interesting. We had aeration as well and struggled to get there
18:30I think we were slower and then John and Kai's that was really good. Very good. All right, so John
18:35take it away
18:36Can I have a vowel please? Thank you John
18:39a vowel
18:42O
18:43a vowel I
18:45a consonant
18:48H a consonant
18:51Y a consonant
18:54F a consonant
18:57S a consonant
19:00R
19:01and a consonant please and lastly chief
19:07Countdown clock
19:08I
19:21I
19:23I
19:25I
19:25I
19:36I
19:39I
19:50I
19:51I
19:52But that's no longer so
19:53It'll still do
19:57Fishery
19:57Can't beat them today
19:5852 to 35
20:0052 to 35 says John's in the lead. Kai, let us go
20:03I'll have a vowel please
20:04Thank you Kai
20:06E
20:06And a consonant
20:07And a consonant
20:09A consonant
20:11C
20:13A vowel
20:14A
20:16A
20:17A consonant
20:17N
20:19A vowel
20:21I
20:23I
20:23I
20:26I
20:27I
20:27I
20:27D
20:28D
20:29And a final consonant please
20:31And a final V
20:33And here's the clock
20:35And here's the clock
21:06Not so easy. Kai. Got eight. Well done, John. Eight as well. And Kai's eight. I'm probably
21:12going to butcher this, but echnidas. How are you spelling it? E-C-H-N-I-D-A-S. N
21:21-I-D-A-K.
21:22And John? I had vanished. Vanished. More straightforward, I think. What is this word
21:27that Kai's produced? Well, Kai, you're so close. And you'll kick yourself because I know
21:32exactly what you're aiming for, but you just spelt it slightly wrong by transposing the N
21:36and the I. It's echidnas, which is E-C-H-I-D-N-A-S. And they are spiny insectivorous
21:43egg-laying
21:43mammals. Long snouts. That's really bad luck. Bad luck. Bad luck. Sorry. All right. Now
21:49then, 60 plays, 35. As we move to that part of the day, well, we've already had a lecture
21:55from Margaret. Now we're going to have a little lecture from Susie. Susie, what have you got?
21:59I'm not sure I like the word lecture. Lecture corner. Exactly. Lecture corner. Well, I'll
22:05try to keep it brief in that case. I was going to answer a letter from Rob Evans, who lives
22:10in Bracebridge in Lincolnshire. And he asked, what are the origins of the Black Mariah, the
22:15name given to police vans? And it's quite an interesting story. They've been used for the
22:20transportation of prisoners since the 1830s under that name of Black Mariah. And there are
22:25two theories as to where the name comes from. The first features Mariah Lee, who was an
22:31African-American proprietress of a sailor's lodging house in Boston. She was said to be
22:36so tall and strong that the police frequently called on her to help capture the most notorious
22:42criminals of the day. It sounds a very tall tale, if you forgive the pun, but there are
22:47records showing that actually she did help to apprehend some of these notorious villains
22:51and thugs. And such was her notoriety that it's quite likely that her name became attached
22:56to the origins of the name. That's one theory. But as it turns out, the more likely one is
23:03a plucky racehorse from Harlem, who in 1832 won a 20-mile, incredibly arduous race and gained
23:10a spectacular pot of money for the jockey club. And it's around this time that the mayor was
23:16called Black Mariah. Obviously, it's around this time that the name began to emerge applied to these
23:21police vans. And it's probably she was so famous, thanks to this incredibly long race, that police
23:25decided to call their vans in her honour. Well, I'm done. Black Mariah. Very good indeed.
23:35Thank you. I prefer the first story, because I think she arrested them all in her boarding house,
23:40which was masquerading as a boarding house. Make a wonderful story.
23:42Yeah, Boston lodgings at the port. I don't think so. Okay, so 60 plays, Kai's 35. And John,
23:50your numbers game. And there's Rachel. Can I have four from the top, please, Rachel?
23:55Four from the top. Yep. And any other two? Thank you very much. Trying the other tact against Kai.
24:00Right, two small ones this time. Ah, three and six. And we know what's coming. The large four.
24:0575, 25, 100, and 50. And your target this time, 381. 381.
24:13Okay.
24:25Yeah.
24:43yes john 381 381 kai 381 all right john um three times 100 three times 100 300
24:54add 75 and 6 yeah nice and straightforward 381 very good kai yeah exactly the same way
25:01excellent stuff well done
25:06so 70 plays 45 has become into a tea time teaser which is name nerd and the clue good mild
25:13or bad
25:14it fits them all good mild or bad it fits them all
25:33welcome back i left you with the uh the clue good mild or bad it fits them all and the
25:38answer is
25:39mannered 70 to 45 kai what are you going to do uh i'll have a consonant please thank you kai
25:45d uh and another s and third l of a vowel u and another e and another place i now
26:03consonant
26:03m a consonant d and final vowel please and a final o block time
26:20so
26:32so
26:33so
26:48Yes, Kai?
26:49Seven.
26:50Seven.
26:51John?
26:51Seven as well.
26:52All right.
26:52Kai, seven?
26:53Modules.
26:54Modules.
26:55John?
26:55Muddles.
26:57Muddles.
26:58So, anything else?
27:00No, I'm a bit of a muddle myself.
27:03There's a mudslide there.
27:06That's all one word for eight.
27:07That'll do.
27:08A mudslide.
27:08Very good.
27:13A mudslide.
27:1477 plays 52.
27:16John, take it away.
27:17Let us go.
27:18Can I have a vowel, please?
27:19Thank you, John.
27:21E.
27:21A vowel.
27:23A.
27:24A vowel.
27:26I.
27:27A consonant, please.
27:29M.
27:30A consonant.
27:32R.
27:33A consonant.
27:34Z.
27:36A consonant.
27:38T.
27:39A consonant.
27:42L.
27:43And a vowel, please.
27:45And the last one.
27:46O.
27:47Stand by.
27:48A consonant.
27:49A consonant.
28:11A fossido.
28:19Yes, John
28:20Eight, and eight, Kai
28:22Eight as well
28:23And John
28:24Moralise
28:25Moralise
28:26Kai
28:26I'll go atomiser
28:27Atomiser
28:29Brilliant
28:29Pretty good stuff
28:30Yep, excellent
28:30Pretty good
28:31Anything else in the corner there?
28:33Yes
28:34I suppose the Oxford
28:35It is the Oxford Dictionary after all
28:37Isn't it?
28:38Has stooped to having Z instead of S
28:40In these words
28:41And
28:41It's always had Z
28:42I have to stick up for Oxford in this case
28:45Because
28:47Yes, it's the normal American spelling
28:49Which is probably what you're reacting to
28:50But actually Oxford chooses it
28:52Because it's closer to the Greek root
28:53Now Margaret should know
28:55She will tell you whether that's right or not
28:57They're probably paid for by the American
28:59That's what they choose
28:59No, honestly, it's true
29:01I have challenged this before
29:02And they've gone through it in great detail
29:04It's closer to the Greek
29:0685 plays 60
29:07Kai
29:07Off you go
29:08Can I have a consonant, please?
29:10Thank you, Kai
29:11B
29:12And a vowel
29:13E
29:15Consonant
29:16J
29:18A vowel
29:19A
29:21Another vowel
29:22U
29:24A consonant
29:25R
29:28A consonant
29:29P
29:31A consonant, please
29:34D
29:36And a final consonant, please
29:38And a final
29:40Cave
29:42Countdown clock
29:43a consonant
30:14now then kai just a six a six john six as well all right kai parked yup parked and john
30:22burped
30:23burped why not john's just demonstrated how onomatopoeic it is i think yeah all right
30:29anything else over there margaret susie susie's got a seven i think uh yes abjured is there
30:36slightly formal term a b j u r e d which is to solemnly renounce to abjure something so
30:42abjured is to have renounced a belief cause or claim all right renounce your religion you would
30:47abjure it uh well the example they give is mps were urged to abjure their jacobite allegiance
30:53slightly old one there okay same sort of deal all right 91 66 as we come to the final numbers
31:00game
31:00of the day now then john um can i have four from the top again please rachel you can it
31:06worked for
31:06last time four large ones and two little ones again for the last time today and for this round the
31:12two
31:12small ones are two and three and you're large four 125 75 and 50 and the last target of the
31:20day 379 379
31:54yes john uh 379 379 kai yes 379 237 nines okay john uh three times 100 again three times 100
32:04again
32:04add 75 300 375 again and then uh 50 over 25 is two yeah and add to the other two
32:11in that
32:12yeah well done 379 okay kai i did exactly the same just to get the four at the end i
32:18did 50 times two
32:19and then divided by 25 yep two times two or two plus two both four very good indeed well done
32:27well done and well done to you john you've gone through the 100 101 to 76 no means score there
32:32kai
32:33and it's the final round it's conundrum time so fingers on buzzers please and let's reveal today's
32:39countdown conundrum
32:40countdown
32:42and
32:43and
32:43and
32:43and
32:43and
32:46and
32:50and
32:54and
32:56and
33:12Wow, Kai. Was that you? Amazing. Come on, let's hear from you.
33:16I'm sorry, but I don't have it. I'm going to say Carbillage.
33:21Right. And I don't think that that's probably going to be likely, but let's have a look.
33:27Now then, John, I'm going to give you lots of time to think over this from now.
33:33You didn't manage it. Very good.
33:35Well, we're foxed up here by these brilliant guys.
33:39What have we got in the order? Do I see hands waving? Yes, I do. Yes, madam?
33:44Algebraic. Algebraic. Let's see whether you're right.
33:47Algebraic. Oh, you are. Algebraic.
33:53Very good, indeed. So, 101 plays 76.
33:57So, Kai, we're going to have to say cheerio to you. Back to your studies.
34:01Thank you for having me.
34:01Have a chat with Rachel afterwards about how to get into Oxford. She knows it all.
34:05And good luck. You're going to take home with you a piece of very precious rare kryptonite,
34:10which we've mined specially for you.
34:12My one weakness.
34:12Yes, kryptonite for you and our very best wishes. And come back and see us.
34:17Probably, you know, before your 18th birthday.
34:19You'd be very welcome. You would, indeed.
34:21Thank you. And we shall see you, John, I think, 12th of February.
34:24Not so long. But, you know, rest.
34:27Yep.
34:28Be ready.
34:28Okay.
34:29Yep, you're on a run.
34:30Very good, indeed.
34:31So, that was pretty good stuff there, Susie.
34:33That was amazing.
34:34Brilliant.
34:34I didn't have to do very much.
34:35And Margaret, tomorrow, tomorrow, we shall have more time to discuss what you've got to say
34:40and where we're off to, because I think we're going to be doing things, aren't we, maybe?
34:43I hope we are.
34:43Well, let's keep the nation in suspense.
34:45For another day.
34:46For another whole day.
34:47Yes, indeed.
34:48Aren't they good?
34:49Are you enjoying it?
34:50Yeah, they're fantastic.
34:51I didn't recognise Kai, I have to say.
34:53I think it was only, was it two or three years ago you were last on here?
34:56It was, yeah, two and a half years ago, I think.
34:57Yeah, you've changed a lot.
34:59You're growing up in front of our eyes.
35:00In a good way.
35:01Oh, very nice.
35:02Your little brother's here as well?
35:03No, they're not, unfortunately.
35:05You need to get them on.
35:06I will.
35:06They're as good as you are here.
35:07You make sure he gets himself into Oxford.
35:09Yep.
35:10All right, brilliant stuff.
35:11No doubt there.
35:11And we shall see you tomorrow.
35:13We're banging through these contestants.
35:15The best that we've got to offer you.
35:17Join us tomorrow, same time, same place.
35:19Good afternoon.
35:21APPLAUSE
35:27Good afternoon.
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