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What were the key messages delivered during President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.'s 2026 State of the Nation Address (SONA), and what do they mean for the country?
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What were the key messages delivered during President Ferdinand Marcos Jr.'s 2026 State of the Nation Address (SONA), and what do they mean for the country?
Join Beyond the Headlines as lawyer Atty. Glenn Chong shares his assessment of the President's address, discussing its key points, major issues, and possible implications.
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01:00Your perfect latte is ready.
01:02Coffee first, then everything else.
01:06Good afternoon and welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
01:09I'm DJ Moises.
01:10And today's conversation is brought to us by Coffee First.
01:13The state of the nation address is more than an annual report.
01:18It is the president's opportunity to account for the past, outline priorities for the future, and ask Congress to act
01:27on key reforms.
01:29Today, we look deeper and think better.
01:33Joining us today is a lawyer, certified public accountant, and former congressman who represented the Sloan District of Biliran from
01:422007-2010, Attorney Glenn Chong.
01:46Hello, attorney. Welcome to Beyond the Headlines.
01:50Hello, Darwin. Thank you for having me in your program.
01:54Thank you, Sunstar.
01:55And I'll try to answer you as much as I can.
01:58Yes. Well, actually, this is a very good conversation.
02:03The headline on Sunstar is really praise and push back, greet the Marcos Sona.
02:08So, let's start with the president's opening attorney.
02:12Because he opened it.
02:14By the way, in my view, and then you can tell me also what you think.
02:17For me, it was strategic for him to start with flood control, and then he ended with China.
02:23So, let's start with the opening.
02:24So, he chose to open his Sona on flood control corruption rather than economic growth.
02:32What do you think was his message?
02:35I think Mr. Marcos was trying to portray that he is serious about itong pag-investigate of the flood control
02:49scam.
02:50In fact, he rattled off some figures, 25 billion had been frozen, and about 800 million had actually been recovered.
03:01But then, look at the other side of the coin, because that's only one side of the coin.
03:08The other side of the coin is that hundreds of billions of pesos were invested in that flood control scam.
03:17It was a systematic looting of the public treasury.
03:21It went on for years.
03:23So, it is safe to say that we have invested more than trillions of pesos there.
03:30In fact, under Mr. Marcos' term, apat na taon lang siya, four years pa lang siya,
03:36he already added 5.76 trillion pesos to the national debt.
03:43Imagine, Darwin, dear listeners, viewers, when we first started our loan, it's an official loan with the World Bank.
03:54It was in November 1957.
03:571957 na nagsimula tayo as an independent state, truly independent, 1946.
04:03So, about nine years later, we first obtained our official loan from the World Bank at just 21 million dollars.
04:13So, 1957 yan.
04:16Then, by the time his father, the Marcos Sr. came in, 1965,
04:24ang utang natin is about 600 million dollars na.
04:28So, anyway, that's about eight years, so 600 million dollars.
04:33By the time his father left, ang utang natin was at 26 to 28 billion dollars.
04:42So, 26 to 28 billion dollars.
04:44Now, in the case of President Duterte,
04:47when President Duterte left, ang utang was 12.79 trillion pesos.
04:54That's understandable because we invested much in COVID,
04:58sa COVID na prevention.
05:03And then, by this time, as of end May, 2026,
05:08last day of May, 2026,
05:11our total debt is 18.55 trillion pesos.
05:15Now, in other words,
05:17we have invested trillions of pesos
05:19in flood control scam
05:21na hindi diligikan sa kwartas katawahan,
05:24kundi inutang na ito.
05:26And we are paying interest for that.
05:28And here you are,
05:30boasting to the nation
05:31that you have frozen 25 billion pesos
05:34and recovered actually 800 million pesos lang.
05:37That's too little
05:39over a period of one year of investigation.
05:43So, in other words,
05:45that leaves so much doubt
05:47in the sincerity of Mr. Marcos
05:49if he's really intending
05:51to pursue it
05:52to the last centavo.
05:54In fact,
05:56karamihan,
05:57kadaghanan sa mga nakasuhan
05:58were contractors
06:00and DPWH officials.
06:03We have only one senator perhaps
06:06and two former lawmakers.
06:08Three.
06:09But not all of them.
06:11Actually,
06:12Darwin,
06:13ang tawag ko dyan sa kanila
06:14is si Alibaba and the 40 Thieves.
06:21Sige, so...
06:22Hello?
06:23Yeah, yes.
06:23So, that's my viewpoint.
06:27So, for him to actually name
06:32a very big fish,
06:34and I'm talking to the former speaker
06:37of the house,
06:38I think this is one part
06:41that's draw praise
06:43and also push back.
06:45Praise because he finally
06:47made an aggressive remark
06:50with respect to his cousin.
06:52But the other part of it also,
06:55some people also felt
06:57that his cousin
06:58was like the punching bag
07:00because he seemed to be
07:02the mascot of everyone else.
07:05But there are still
07:06those with allegations
07:08like former Executive Secretary
07:12Bersamen, for example,
07:13or Budget Secretary
07:15Amina Pangandaman,
07:16for example,
07:16who are still yet
07:18to be also
07:20aggressively investigated.
07:22What are your thoughts
07:23about this?
07:23Is that something
07:24that you liked?
07:25Were you among those
07:26people who liked it?
07:27Or were you among
07:28those people also
07:29who looked at it
07:30more like a mascot,
07:32no?
07:32Presentation?
07:35It looks to me like
07:37si Martin
07:39is being used
07:40as a scapegoat.
07:41But at any rate,
07:43up to this moment,
07:45up to yesterday,
07:46when he delivered his sonar,
07:48there was yet no criminal case
07:50filed against Martin.
07:51It's just a promise
07:53to pursue him.
07:55Nothing happened.
07:56Nauna pa si Jingoy,
07:58nauna pa si Marcoleta,
07:59nauna pa si Mike Defensor,
08:05nauna pa si Libby Baligod,
08:06because they are being
08:08targeted by this administration,
08:10was a common denominator
08:11between Marcoleta,
08:12Baligod,
08:13and Mike Defensor.
08:14The 18 Marines,
08:16Senate Blue Ribbon Committee
08:18hearings on the
08:19Flood Controls Cup.
08:20Nauna pa silang kinasuhan.
08:22Pero yung kay Martin
08:23Romualdez,
08:23matagal na yan.
08:25It's the Ombudsman
08:27saying na malapit na,
08:28malapit na.
08:28But up to that point
08:30in time yesterday,
08:31there was yet no case.
08:32So I will not believe it.
08:33And by the way,
08:35because that's supposed
08:36to be my last question
08:37on that particular part
08:38of the sauna.
08:39But I could not recall also,
08:41and correct me if I'm wrong,
08:42Attorney Glenn,
08:43I could not recall also
08:44the part that he mentioned
08:45the ICI
08:46and what happened
08:47to the investigation
08:49and what happened
08:49to the findings.
08:50Did he mention that?
08:51Because I did not hear it.
08:54Actually,
08:55Darwin,
08:56I don't listen
08:57to his sauna.
08:58But for the first time,
09:00I listened yesterday
09:01because you're going
09:02to interview me today.
09:03Wala ko isasagot
09:04if I will not listen.
09:06So I listened intently,
09:08although I did not
09:09look at his face
09:10because I know
09:12these are sugar-coated words.
09:15There was no mention
09:16of ICC.
09:17I'm dead sure about that.
09:18So I think
09:19in that context,
09:21Murag,
09:21because I recall,
09:22Mangod,
09:22that's why I just remembered it
09:23during this conversation
09:24because when he delivered
09:26his sauna last year,
09:28the mahiyan naman kayo,
09:30the action step,
09:31supposedly,
09:32that I saw after that
09:34was the formation
09:34of the ICCI.
09:36And for some reason,
09:38it looked like
09:39it was not,
09:40I just remembered now
09:41that it was not mentioned
09:43in his next sauna.
09:45So,
09:45can you,
09:46attorney Glenn,
09:47so if you put your hat,
09:50for example,
09:50as the president
09:52currently,
09:53of the Philippines,
09:54what do you think
09:55should have been
09:55the reforms
09:56that he would have
09:58introduced
09:59so that
10:00we would not see
10:02more of this
10:04already,
10:04in the coming
10:06administration,
10:07regardless of
10:08who is sitting?
10:10Actually,
10:11Darwin,
10:13I was also
10:14a congressman
10:14before,
10:15like you had
10:15mentioned.
10:17You see,
10:18if the flood
10:20control projects
10:21are outlined
10:22already
10:23in the
10:24national
10:25expenditure
10:26program,
10:27ang national
10:27expenditure program
10:28is actually
10:29a three-part
10:31book,
10:32baga na siya kayo,
10:34it's so thick,
10:35all the projects
10:36are identified
10:37there.
10:38So,
10:39if the
10:40flood control
10:41projects
10:42are well
10:42identified
10:43in the
10:44national
10:45expenditure
10:45program,
10:46which the
10:46DBM makes
10:48from the
10:49office of the
10:49president
10:50and submitted
10:51to Congress,
10:52I think
10:53dili makalusut
10:55kaayo
10:56ang
10:58panikas
10:59sa kwartas
11:00gobyerno.
11:00The problem
11:01with this
11:02kind of
11:03system,
11:03if you
11:04will put
11:05it in
11:05detail
11:05in the
11:06national
11:07expenditure
11:07program,
11:09ang
11:09congressman
11:10ang
11:11bangayo
11:12sa tong
11:12because
11:14it falls
11:14in their
11:15district.
11:16So,
11:16whatever
11:17projects
11:18are already
11:18written
11:19in the
11:19national
11:20expenditure
11:20program
11:21and it
11:21falls
11:22into the
11:22district
11:23of a
11:23particular
11:23congressman,
11:25ang kinin
11:25niya ng
11:25congressman
11:26akin
11:27ang tong
11:27Pats
11:27dyan
11:28because
11:28project
11:29ko
11:29yan.
11:29That's
11:30the
11:30problem.
11:31So,
11:31if the
11:32president
11:33does not
11:33want to
11:34give the
11:35kickbacks
11:35to the
11:35congressman
11:36because he
11:36wants it
11:37for himself,
11:39idaan
11:39sa insertion
11:40so that
11:41ang proponent
11:42sa insertion
11:43gets the
11:43kickback.
11:45So,
11:46that's
11:46the
11:46reason
11:46why
11:48itong
11:49flood
11:49control
11:50scam
11:50has
11:50become
11:51systematic.
11:52Hindi nila
11:53imbutang,
11:54hindi nila
11:54ilalagay
11:55sa
11:55national
11:56expenditure
11:57program
11:57because
11:58si
11:58congressman
11:58ang
11:58kukuha
11:59ng
11:59tong.
12:02Iaidaan
12:03nila
12:03sa
12:03insertion,
12:05that's
12:05why you
12:05heard
12:06from
12:07Saldico
12:07that
12:08Marcos
12:08asked
12:09for an
12:09insertion
12:09of
12:10100
12:10billion
12:10pesos
12:11so that
12:12ang tong
12:12patch
12:13mapunta
12:13sa
12:13kanya,
12:14hindi
12:14mapunta
12:14sa
12:14congressman.
12:16So,
12:16the
12:16solution
12:17there
12:17is
12:17put it
12:18international
12:18expenditure
12:19program
12:19and then
12:21forbid
12:21the
12:21congressman
12:22from
12:22getting
12:22itong
12:23patch
12:23is
12:23strictohin
12:24yung
12:24implementation.
12:26Now,
12:27speaking of
12:29reforms,
12:30attorney,
12:31I don't know
12:31if you can
12:32still hear me.
12:34Yes,
12:35I can
12:35hear you.
12:36Okay,
12:36sige,
12:36when I look
12:37at the
12:37screen,
12:39I'm glad
12:39that you're
12:40still there.
12:40Now,
12:41speaking of
12:41reforms,
12:42attorney,
12:42let's move
12:43towards
12:43the tax.
12:44Hello,
12:44Darwin.
12:45Yes,
12:45can you
12:45still hear me,
12:46attorney?
12:48I know.
12:48Yeah,
12:49sige.
12:49So,
12:49speaking of
12:50reforms,
12:52let's move
12:53sa
12:53katong
12:54tax.
12:55This is
12:55also one
12:56of the
12:56uploaded
12:57parts of
12:58his
12:58sauna.
12:59And I
12:59think
12:59this is
12:59where
13:00potentially
13:01we can
13:01tie this
13:02to the
13:025.76
13:04trillion
13:04debt
13:05that you
13:05actually
13:06mentioned.
13:07Because
13:08when he
13:09said,
13:11it's
13:12going to
13:12be
13:12expanded,
13:13the
13:14income
13:14tax
13:15exception
13:15from
13:16the
13:16current
13:17250,000,
13:18it will
13:19be
13:19expanded
13:19to
13:20350,000
13:22per year.
13:23So,
13:36for the
13:37benefit
13:37is finally
13:38being
13:38heard.
13:39So,
13:40that's
13:40the
13:40positive
13:41side
13:41of it.
13:42The
13:42downside
13:43of it
13:43also
13:43is
13:44people
13:44also
13:44thought
13:45that
13:45it was
13:46not
13:48enough
13:48but
13:49at least
13:49it's
13:49still
13:50progress.
13:51But
13:51the
13:51downside
13:51people
13:52are
13:52also
13:52asking
13:53when it
13:54comes
13:54to
13:54revenue
13:55loss
13:56opportunity
13:56where
13:57will
13:57he
13:57recover
13:58that?
13:58Is
13:59it
13:59going
13:59to
13:59be
14:00recovered
14:00through
14:00borrowing?
14:01That's
14:02the
14:02question.
14:02What
14:03are
14:03your
14:03thoughts
14:03also
14:04about
14:04this
14:05part
14:06of
14:06his
14:06sona?
14:07Are
14:07you
14:07on the
14:08positive
14:08side
14:08or
14:08are
14:09you
14:09on
14:09those
14:09who
14:09are
14:10skeptical
14:10about
14:10it?
14:13Actually,
14:14both.
14:16First,
14:17I always
14:18believe
14:18that
14:19the
14:21lesser
14:22you
14:22tax
14:22the
14:22public,
14:23the
14:24faster
14:24actually
14:25the
14:25economy
14:25grows.
14:26Why?
14:27Because
14:28kung
14:29kunin
14:30ng
14:30tao,
14:31anong
14:31gobyerno,
14:32ang
14:32kita
14:32ng
14:33tao
14:33na
14:34pupunta
14:34sa
14:34gobyerno,
14:35malaki
14:35ang
14:36leakage
14:36doon.
14:37Look
14:37at
14:37the
14:38rate
14:38of
14:39corruption,
14:39we
14:40lose
14:41hundreds
14:42of
14:42billions
14:42of
14:43pesos
14:43every
14:43year.
14:44Whereas,
14:45if
14:45the
14:45money
14:45is
14:45with
14:46the
14:46people,
14:47consumption
14:48driven
14:48yung
14:49economy
14:49natin,
14:50the
14:50more
14:51that
14:51the
14:51economy
14:51will
14:52grow
14:52because
14:52people
14:53have
14:53money.
14:54So,
14:55in
14:55fact,
14:55yan
14:56ang
14:56ginawa
14:56ng
14:56Amerika
14:57at
14:57the
14:57time
14:58ng
14:59nag-crush
15:00yung
15:00stock
15:00market
15:01nila
15:01in
15:011935,
15:02I
15:03think,
15:04the
15:04lower
15:04the
15:05taxes,
15:05then
15:06money
15:06was
15:06freed
15:07up,
15:07napunta
15:08sa
15:08tao,
15:08umikot
15:09yung
15:09economy.
15:10To that
15:11extent,
15:12up to
15:13100,000
15:14pesos
15:14will not
15:14be
15:14taxed,
15:15that's
15:15money
15:16for
15:16the
15:16people.
15:16That's
15:17good
15:17because
15:18that's
15:18good
15:18for
15:18the
15:18economy.
15:19It
15:19will
15:19turn
15:20more
15:20money
15:21in
15:21our
15:21economy.
15:22And
15:23we
15:23need
15:23our
15:23economy
15:24to
15:24grow
15:24faster
15:25to
15:25uplift
15:26more
15:26people
15:26from
15:27poverty.
15:28Now,
15:29the
15:29downside
15:29is,
15:30sa'n tayo
15:31kukuha
15:32ng
15:32panakip
15:32doon.
15:33So,
15:34if we're
15:35going to
15:36let go
15:37of
15:38several
15:39hundred
15:39billions
15:40of
15:40pesos
15:40to
15:41prime
15:42the
15:42economy,
15:43to
15:43pump
15:43prime
15:43the
15:43economy,
15:44that's
15:44good.
15:44But
15:44the
15:44problem
15:45is,
15:46paano
15:46natin
15:46i-recover
15:47yun?
15:47If
15:47our
15:47budget
15:48remains
15:48high,
15:49so,
15:49ang
15:49resulta
15:50is
15:50budget
15:50deficit.
15:51Now,
15:52if we
15:52have
15:52budget
15:53deficit,
15:54the
15:54quick
15:54fix
15:54is
15:55load.
15:56Mangutang
15:56na
15:56naman
15:57tayo.
15:57So,
15:58pag
15:58mangutang
15:58tayo,
16:02in
16:032025,
16:05sa 2025
16:05alone,
16:06our
16:08debt
16:08service
16:08was
16:09pegged
16:10at
16:102
16:10trillion
16:11103
16:12billion.
16:13So,
16:13ito yung
16:13binayan
16:14natin
16:14lahat.
16:152
16:15trillion
16:15103
16:16billion.
16:18864
16:19billion
16:19of that
16:20was for
16:20interest
16:21alone.
16:22So,
16:23864
16:24billion
16:24ang binayan
16:25nating
16:25interest
16:26sa
16:27utang
16:27natin.
16:28So,
16:29that's
16:29roughly
16:29about
16:3020
16:30billion
16:31a
16:32day.
16:32I
16:32think,
16:33yeah,
16:33it's
16:34about
16:342
16:34billion
16:34pesos
16:34a
16:35day
16:35in
16:35interest
16:35alone.
16:36That's
16:36a lot
16:37of
16:37money
16:37na
16:37pwede
16:38magamit
16:38natin
16:39para
16:39sa
16:39ekonomiya
16:39natin
16:40for
16:40social
16:41services
16:41and
16:41others.
16:42In
16:42other
16:43words,
16:44for
16:45every
16:45peso
16:45that
16:46our
16:46government
16:47is
16:48spending
16:48every
16:49in
16:492025,
16:502025,
16:51for
16:51every
16:51peso,
16:5233
16:52centavos
16:53goes
16:54to
16:54debt
16:54servicing.
16:55So,
16:5567
16:56centavos
16:57na
16:57lang
16:57ang
16:58napupunta
16:58sa
17:01So,
17:01that's
17:01the
17:02problem
17:02there.
17:03Maliba
17:03na
17:03lang
17:03if
17:04the
17:04government
17:05is
17:05able
17:06to
17:08find
17:09other
17:09means
17:09to
17:11recover
17:12the
17:12losses
17:12that
17:13we
17:13give
17:14back
17:14in
17:14terms
17:14of
17:15lower
17:15taxes.
17:16So,
17:16it takes
17:17a lot
17:17of
17:17invention
17:18on the
17:18part
17:19of
17:19the
17:19government.
17:20Siguro,
17:21kung
17:21ma-plug
17:24natin
17:24yung
17:24corruption,
17:26so,
17:26ito na,
17:27this is
17:27how
17:27corruption
17:29bleeds
17:29us.
17:30This
17:30is
17:30now
17:30the
17:31effect
17:31of
17:31corruption.
17:32Alam
17:33nyo,
17:33mga
17:33kababayan,
17:34sometimes
17:35we do
17:36not really
17:37value
17:38the
17:39fight
17:39against
17:40corruption
17:40because
17:41tingin
17:42natin,
17:42walang
17:42connection
17:43yun
17:43sa
17:43atin.
17:44But,
17:44you
17:45see,
17:45if we
17:46stop
17:46corruption,
17:47if we
17:48plug the
17:48gap,
17:49if we
17:49plug the
17:50loophole,
17:51government
17:52saves
17:52hundreds
17:52of
17:53billions
17:53of
17:53pesos
17:53every
17:54year,
17:54and
17:54we
17:55can
17:55afford
17:55to
17:56give
17:56you
17:56more
17:58tax-free
17:59income.
17:59So,
18:00hindi
18:01lang
18:01siguro
18:01350,000
18:03up to
18:03half a
18:03million
18:04pesos
18:04of
18:04your
18:04income
18:05will
18:05not
18:05be
18:05taxed
18:06anymore.
18:06Or,
18:07they will
18:08be subject
18:08to lower
18:09taxes.
18:09Because,
18:10may
18:10pagkukunan
18:11tayo
18:11ng panakip
18:12doon.
18:13Ano yun?
18:14We
18:14plug
18:14corruption.
18:15That's the
18:16effect
18:16of
18:16corruption.
18:17The
18:17more
18:17money
18:18flows
18:18out
18:19of
18:19the
18:19system,
18:20napupunta
18:20lang
18:21sa
18:21private
18:22na
18:22bulsa
18:22ng
18:23mga
18:23politiko,
18:24the
18:25more
18:25there
18:25is
18:26a
18:26need
18:26for
18:26government
18:27to
18:27tax
18:27the
18:27hard
18:28working
18:28people.
18:30Actually,
18:31that's
18:31an
18:32interesting
18:33take
18:34about it.
18:35Because,
18:35instead of
18:37just looking
18:37at it
18:37as all
18:38positive
18:38or all
18:39negative,
18:40I agree
18:41with you.
18:42The positive
18:42side is
18:43money on
18:44the people
18:45because they
18:45will not
18:46be taxed
18:47as much
18:47as before.
18:49And,
18:49correct me
18:49if I'm
18:50wrong,
18:50attorney,
18:50I just
18:51gathered
18:51also that
18:52you mentioned
18:53that the
18:54economy is
18:54consumption
18:55driven.
18:55and they
18:56said that
18:5763%
18:58of our
18:59economy
18:59is
18:59actually
19:00consumption
19:00driven.
19:01So,
19:01I agree
19:01with you
19:01in that
19:02context.
19:02If there
19:03will be
19:03more
19:03money
19:04retained
19:05on the
19:05part of
19:06the
19:06people,
19:06then they
19:07will
19:07buy.
19:07So,
19:08that will
19:08move
19:09the
19:09economy
19:09They have
19:10more money
19:10too.
19:11Correct.
19:11They have
19:12more disposable
19:13income.
19:13Correct.
19:14But,
19:14yes,
19:15you also
19:16highlighted
19:16that's
19:17also
19:18supposedly
19:19revenue
19:19of the
19:20government
19:21which they
19:22are no
19:22longer
19:23collecting.
19:24So,
19:25where
19:25will the
19:26government
19:26secure this?
19:27Are they
19:27going to
19:28plug
19:28corruption
19:29among
19:30many
19:30options
19:31or
19:32will
19:32they
19:32borrow?
19:33So,
19:33I think
19:34at least
19:34our viewers
19:34will have
19:35something to
19:36take with
19:36them.
19:37If they
19:37will hear
19:38borrowing,
19:38then it's
19:39like,
19:39okay,
19:40I'm not
19:40going to
19:40tax you,
19:41but I'm
19:41going to
19:41borrow.
19:43I will
19:44make
19:44loan.
19:45not
19:47do
19:47it's
19:49the
19:49future
19:50generation
19:51who
19:51will
19:51keep
19:51paying
19:52for
19:52those
19:52in terms
19:53of
19:53lesser
19:54public
19:54services,
19:55less
19:55quality,
19:56less
19:57quantity,
19:58whereas if
19:58we plug
19:59the
19:59loophole
20:00corruption
20:00at this
20:01moment
20:01in time,
20:02we will
20:03be able
20:03to save
20:03hundreds
20:04of
20:04billions
20:04of
20:04pesos
20:05that we
20:06can
20:06afford
20:06to give
20:06more
20:07tax-free
20:07to our
20:08people.
20:09And with
20:10more
20:10tax-free,
20:10more
20:11disposable
20:11income,
20:12the more
20:14taxes also
20:15the government
20:16earns.
20:17So,
20:17yun lang yun.
20:19And now,
20:20you've
20:20mentioned
20:21on services,
20:22so let's
20:23move to,
20:23I think
20:24this got
20:24a standing
20:25ovation,
20:26and I'm
20:28referring to
20:29the
20:29amendment
20:29of the
20:30Electric
20:30Power
20:31Industry
20:32Reform
20:33Act
20:33or
20:33EPIRA
20:34specifically
20:35on
20:36the
20:37system
20:37loss.
20:39And for
20:40the benefit
20:41of our
20:41viewers,
20:42kanyng
20:42system
20:42loss,
20:43mura ni siya
20:43kung nagpalit
20:44ka
20:442 kilos,
20:47tungkol
20:48kayo
20:48nalanay na siya,
20:49by the time
20:49it reaches
20:50you,
20:50it's only
20:501.5
20:51kilo.
20:52But for
20:53katong
20:53sa restore
20:54na maligyan
20:54eh,
20:55ilang
20:56gicharge
20:56back na
20:57to
20:57ang
20:570.5
20:57loss.
20:58So when
20:59the
20:59president
20:59actually
21:00said
21:00that
21:01this
21:01is
21:01no
21:01longer
21:02be
21:02passed
21:02on
21:02the
21:03consumers,
21:03he got
21:04a
21:04standing
21:04ovation.
21:06What are
21:06your thoughts
21:07about this,
21:08attorney?
21:10Darwin,
21:11mga
21:12kaigsunan,
21:12that's a
21:13palliative
21:13solution.
21:14It's a
21:14band-aid
21:14solution.
21:15How much
21:16are they
21:16going to
21:16give us
21:17in terms
21:17of
21:19systems
21:19loss
21:20reduction?
21:21So
21:21pilarama
21:22na
21:22kasintabo
21:23ang
21:23tanggalon
21:24for
21:24every
21:24kilowatt
21:25hour
21:25that
21:25we
21:26consume.
21:26We
21:27are
21:27not
21:28digging
21:29deeper
21:30into
21:30the
21:30problem.
21:32Once
21:33I was
21:33able to
21:34talk
21:34to
21:34the
21:35owner
21:35of
21:35elegant
21:36light
21:36and
21:36power.
21:37He's
21:38one
21:38of
21:39the
21:39most
21:39avid
21:40advocates
21:41for
21:42lower
21:42energy
21:43costs.
21:44So
21:44he
21:44explained
21:46it to
21:46me,
21:47attorney
21:48Glenn,
21:49the
21:49reason
21:50why
21:50our
21:50electricity
21:51is
21:51so
21:51expensive,
21:53it's
21:53because
21:54they're
21:54bloating
21:54their
21:55assets
21:55in
21:55their
21:56books
21:56of
21:56accounts,
21:57all
21:57of
21:57them,
21:58all
21:58of
21:58the
21:59electric
21:59distributors.
22:01So
22:02ganito
22:03example,
22:04example,
22:07ito
22:08yung
22:08in
22:08example
22:08niya.
22:09Nakita
22:10niyo
22:10yung
22:10poste
22:11na
22:12there's
22:12a lot
22:13of
22:13this
22:13in
22:14Manila.
22:14Yung
22:15poste
22:15na
22:16concrete
22:17na
22:17cemento
22:18na
22:19mataas
22:20masyado.
22:20Yes,
22:21I saw
22:21that.
22:22Okay,
22:24that's
22:24an
22:24example.
22:25That's
22:25an
22:25asset
22:26of
22:26the
22:26distributor,
22:28Vico
22:28for
22:28example.
22:29But
22:29I'm
22:29not
22:29saying
22:30that
22:30Vico
22:30is
22:30engaged
22:31in
22:31that.
22:31Pero
22:32yun
22:32ang
22:32sinabi
22:33sa
22:33akin
22:33yun
22:34may
22:34ari
22:35ng
22:35idig
22:35light
22:35and
22:36power.
22:36Of
22:36course,
22:36I
22:36believed
22:37him
22:37because
22:37he
22:37is
22:37the
22:38owner
22:38of
22:38an
22:38electric
22:39utility.
22:39He
22:40knows
22:40exactly
22:40what
22:40he
22:41is
22:41talking
22:41about.
22:42So
22:42yung
22:42poste
22:43na
22:43malaki,
22:44at
22:45the
22:46time,
22:46it was
22:46just
22:47the cost
22:47of
22:48building
22:48it
22:48or
22:49making
22:49it
22:49was
22:50200,000
22:50pesos.
22:51Yet
22:52in
22:52the
22:52books
22:53of
22:53accounts
22:53of
22:54the
22:54utility
22:54firms
22:55it's
22:552
22:55million
22:56pesos
22:56apiece.
22:57So
22:57what's
22:58the
22:58difference?
22:59200,000
23:00ang
23:00actual
23:01cost.
23:012
23:02million
23:02ang
23:03booked
23:03cost.
23:04So
23:04what's
23:05the
23:05difference?
23:06Because
23:07if
23:07that
23:07200,000
23:08is
23:09used
23:09as
23:09basis,
23:10di ba
23:11ang
23:11electric
23:11utilities
23:12earn
23:13a
23:13fixed
23:13rate
23:13per
23:14the
23:14asset
23:15they
23:15invested?
23:16Example,
23:17I'm
23:17not sure
23:18if
23:18this
23:18is
23:1812%
23:19or
23:1910%.
23:20So
23:20utility
23:21firms
23:21earn
23:2210%
23:22example
23:23on
23:24all
23:24assets
23:24invested.
23:25So
23:26sa
23:26200,000
23:2720,000
23:29lang
23:29ang
23:29dapat
23:30i-earn
23:31ng
23:31utility
23:32firm.
23:32So
23:33that's
23:33spread
23:33out
23:34across
23:34the
23:35utility
23:35bills
23:36ng
23:36mga
23:36tao.
23:3720,000
23:38But
23:39if
23:39it's
23:392
23:39million
23:40200,000
23:42ang
23:4210%
23:42dyan.
23:43So
23:44lumubo
23:45agad
23:45by
23:4610%
23:46by
23:4710
23:48times
23:48from
23:4920,000
23:49spread
23:50out
23:51to
23:51all
23:51the
23:51bills
23:52ng
23:52customer
23:52naging
23:53200,000
23:54per
23:55electric
23:55post.
23:56So
23:57mantakin
23:58mo
23:58per
23:59electric
23:59post
23:59yan.
24:00Tumubo
24:01agad
24:01by
24:0110
24:01times.
24:02So
24:02the
24:03cost
24:03of
24:04electricity
24:04is
24:05bloated
24:05because
24:06the
24:06books
24:06of
24:07accounts
24:07do
24:07not
24:08reflect
24:08the
24:08actual
24:09investment
24:09of
24:10the
24:10utility
24:10firms.
24:11They
24:11are
24:11bloated.
24:12So
24:12the
24:13solution,
24:13the
24:14better
24:14solution
24:15is
24:16to
24:16revalue
24:17all the
24:18assets
24:19of the
24:19utility
24:20firms.
24:20I-revalue
24:21mo yan
24:21because
24:22that is
24:22not
24:22true.
24:23Bloated
24:23yan.
24:24Because
24:24it is
24:25bloated
24:25that
24:2510%
24:26na
24:26return
24:26on
24:27investment
24:27nila,
24:2810%
24:29lang
24:29ang
24:29return
24:29on
24:29investment
24:30sa
24:30investment
24:31nila,
24:32instead
24:32of
24:33220,000
24:34lang,
24:34naging
24:35200,000
24:36and
24:36mantakin
24:36mo
24:37ilang
24:37electric
24:38post
24:38yan.
24:39Another
24:39example,
24:39transmitter.
24:41Ito,
24:41sinabi
24:41din niya
24:42to,
24:42transmitter.
24:43Ano,
24:44transformer.
24:46Transformer.
24:46B-bili
24:47si
24:48subsidiary
24:48A,
24:4925
24:49million.
24:50I-benta
24:51kay
24:51subsidiary
24:51B,
24:5250
24:52million.
24:53I-benta
24:54kay
24:54subsidiary
24:54C,
24:5575
24:55million.
24:56I-benta
24:57kay
24:57subsidiary
24:58D,
24:59100
24:59million.
25:00Tapos
25:00si
25:01utility
25:01firm,
25:01bibili
25:02ng
25:02150
25:03million.
25:04Sa kanya
25:04yung mga
25:04kumpanya
25:05na yun.
25:05So from
25:0525
25:06million,
25:06naging
25:06150
25:07million.
25:08So
25:08instead of
25:092.5
25:10million
25:10lang,
25:11ang
25:11i-earn
25:11sa
25:12transformer,
25:13naging
25:1315
25:14million na.
25:14So that's
25:15the reason
25:16why
25:16electricity
25:17is very
25:17expensive.
25:19Bloated
25:19ang nasa
25:20books of
25:20accounts
25:20ng mga
25:21utility
25:21firms.
25:22So
25:22while it's
25:24good news
25:24that you
25:25remove
25:26systems
25:26charges,
25:27systems
25:28laws,
25:29maghahanap
25:30ng paraan
25:30ang mga
25:31utility,
25:31i-charge
25:32sa atin
25:32ulit yan,
25:33under a
25:33different name,
25:34under a
25:34different
25:35animal.
25:37So
25:37what you're
25:38saying
25:38actually
25:39attorney
25:39is
25:39it's
25:39better
25:40that
25:41the
25:42evaluation
25:43of the
25:44assets
25:44and making
25:45them
25:45close to
25:46their
25:46real
25:47value,
25:47that's
25:48a more
25:48sustainable
25:49solution.
25:51Yes,
25:52that's the
25:52long-term
25:53solution.
25:53The
25:54president
25:54should
25:54order
25:55the
25:55ERC
25:56na
25:56i-revalue
25:57lahat
25:58ng assets
25:58na
25:58in-invest
25:59ng mga
25:59utility
26:00firms,
26:00all of
26:00them.
26:01I'm a
26:01CPM,
26:02know what
26:02I'm
26:02talking
26:02about.
26:03So
26:03pag
26:03ni-revalue
26:04mo yan
26:04at
26:05bababa
26:05yung
26:05value
26:06of
26:06investment
26:06nila
26:06because
26:07it's
26:07bloated,
26:08bababa
26:08din yung
26:09return
26:09on
26:10investment
26:10nila.
26:11So
26:11pagbaba
26:13ng return
26:13investments,
26:14bababa
26:14ang
26:15kuryente.
26:16And
26:17that's
26:17the
26:17more
26:17lasting
26:17solution.
26:19What
26:20about
26:20his
26:20pronouncement
26:21that we
26:21will
26:21also
26:22revisit
26:23nuclear
26:24energy?
26:25Is
26:26that
26:27aspirational
26:28or
26:29is
26:30that
26:30something
26:31that
26:31realistically
26:32be
26:33accomplished
26:33within
26:34his
26:34term?
26:35What
26:35are
26:35your
26:36thoughts
26:36also
26:36about
26:37this?
26:39That's
26:39one thing
26:40I agree
26:40with him.
26:41Very
26:41rare,
26:42but I
26:43agree
26:43with him
26:43Darwin.
26:46Nuclear
26:46power
26:47is the
26:48cheapest
26:48because we
26:49cannot rely
26:50animal or
26:51fossil fuel.
26:51will
26:54suffer
26:56from
26:56petrol
26:57in the
26:58gas
26:58stations
26:59to
26:59electricity
27:00and
27:01all
27:01others
27:02including
27:02food.
27:03So
27:03if
27:04we
27:04have
27:04besides
27:05nuclear
27:06technology
27:07now
27:07is a
27:08lot
27:08better
27:08than
27:09it
27:09was
27:09in
27:09the
27:091970s
27:10or
27:111980s.
27:12It's
27:12a lot
27:13safer.
27:14It's
27:14a lot
27:14cheaper.
27:16So
27:17that
27:17I
27:18agree
27:18with
27:18Mr.
27:19Marcos
27:19that
27:19we
27:19should
27:20expand
27:21our
27:21energy
27:22mix
27:22to
27:22include
27:23nuclear
27:23power.
27:25So
27:26you
27:27also
27:27think
27:28that's
27:28a
27:29good
27:30direction.
27:31For
27:34your
27:35understanding
27:36also
27:36Attorney
27:36Glenn,
27:37how
27:37reasonable
27:38is it
27:39just
27:39in
27:39case
27:40the
27:41Philippines
27:42will
27:42indeed
27:43invest
27:43on
27:44this
27:44direction.
27:45how
27:45reasonable
27:46will
27:47this
27:48be
27:48eventually
27:49reach
27:49implementation
27:50stage?
27:52In
27:53terms of
27:53public
27:54expectation,
27:54how
27:54soon
27:55can
27:56this
27:56happen?
27:58That
27:59will
27:59take
27:59years.
28:00It's
28:00a
28:01nuclear
28:01power
28:02is not
28:02something
28:03that you
28:03can
28:03just
28:03plug
28:04and
28:04play.
28:05You
28:05have
28:06to
28:07build
28:07it
28:07from
28:07scratch.
28:08Unless
28:10small
28:11units
28:12of
28:12nuclear
28:13power
28:13are
28:14modular
28:14that
28:15might
28:16be
28:16quicker.
28:17That
28:17might
28:17be
28:17a
28:17lot
28:17faster.
28:18But
28:18if
28:19you're
28:19talking
28:20of
28:20the
28:20likes
28:21of
28:21nuclear
28:21power
28:22front,
28:22it
28:25will
28:25take
28:25years.
28:26But
28:26if
28:28modular,
28:29I know
28:30there's
28:30modular,
28:32it might
28:32be
28:32quicker.
28:34But at
28:34least it's
28:35a step
28:35to the
28:36right
28:37direction.
28:38Yes.
28:39I agree.
28:40Now
28:41let's
28:41talk
28:42about
28:42because
28:42I'll
28:42end
28:43with
28:43the
28:44Hague
28:442016
28:47ruling.
28:48But
28:49before
28:49that,
28:50this is
28:52still
28:52an
28:52interesting
28:53conversation.
28:53So I'll
28:54move
28:54with
28:54the
28:55other
28:56topics
28:56also
28:56that's
28:57well
28:57applauded.
28:58And
28:59he was
28:59also
29:00talking
29:00about
29:01government
29:02interventions
29:03during
29:04the
29:05Middle
29:05East
29:06oil
29:06crisis.
29:07But
29:08my
29:09impression
29:09and
29:09then
29:09tell
29:10me
29:10attorney
29:10whether
29:11you
29:11agree
29:11with
29:11my
29:12impression
29:12or
29:12you
29:12disagree
29:13with
29:13my
29:13impression.
29:14But
29:14in
29:14this
29:15part
29:15of
29:15the
29:15sauna,
29:16it
29:16actually
29:17sounded
29:17more
29:18like
29:18an
29:18ayuda
29:19part.
29:20Because
29:21he was
29:21talking
29:22about
29:22diesel
29:23subsidy
29:23to
29:24public
29:24utility
29:25vehicles,
29:26cash
29:26assistance
29:27to
29:27transport
29:29workers,
29:30continuing
29:31libreng
29:32sakay
29:32program.
29:33So for
29:34me,
29:35they
29:35softened
29:36somehow
29:36the
29:37impact.
29:37But
29:37they
29:38sound
29:38to
29:38me
29:38like
29:39ayuda
29:39rather
29:40than
29:42policy
29:43related.
29:43What are
29:44your
29:44thoughts?
29:45You can
29:45disagree
29:46with
29:46me
29:46if
29:47you
29:48don't
29:48agree
29:49with
29:49what
29:49I
29:49said.
29:51Darwin,
29:52I agree
29:53with you
29:53that
29:56if you
29:56look at
29:57all those
29:57interventions
29:58of the
29:58government,
29:59ayuda
30:00gives
30:00a
30:01subsidy.
30:02But
30:04we
30:05have
30:05to
30:06take
30:06note
30:07also
30:07that
30:07in
30:08Southeast
30:08Asia,
30:09the
30:10Philippines
30:10is
30:11one
30:11of
30:11the
30:11few
30:12countries
30:12that
30:13will
30:13have
30:13subsidy
30:13on
30:14electric
30:14power.
30:15So that's
30:15one of
30:15the
30:16reasons
30:16it's
30:16current.
30:17Aside
30:18from
30:18the
30:19bloated
30:19asset
30:20investments.
30:21Now,
30:23per se,
30:24the
30:24ayuda
30:24is not
30:25good
30:25because
30:27it
30:29instills
30:31mendicancy
30:32on the
30:32part of
30:33the
30:33people.
30:33will
30:34more
30:34than
30:37But
30:37remember
30:38that
30:39the
30:39government's
30:40resources
30:40are
30:42finite.
30:43It's not
30:43indefinite.
30:45We're
30:46not like
30:46Saudi
30:47Arabia.
30:47They have
30:48a sovereign
30:49wealth fund
30:50that's in
30:50the
30:50trillions
30:51of
30:51pesos.
30:51In
30:52Sweden,
30:53it's
30:53more
30:54than
30:54two
30:54trillion
30:54dollars.
30:55We don't
30:57have that.
30:58So,
30:59ayuda
31:00would
31:00not
31:00be
31:00a
31:01permanent
31:01solution.
31:02Now,
31:05this is
31:06what I
31:06would like
31:07the
31:07government
31:07to
31:08consider.
31:09Because
31:10if I
31:10were the
31:10president,
31:11I would
31:11do
31:11this.
31:12And
31:12Marcos
31:13was
31:13mentioning
31:14kahapon
31:15about
31:15service
31:16contracts.
31:17If you
31:18remember
31:18Darwin,
31:19he was
31:19mentioning
31:19about
31:2014
31:20service
31:21contracts,
31:21the
31:22biggest
31:22number
31:23in
31:24any
31:24administration.
31:25So,
31:25ito
31:25yung
31:26mga
31:26service
31:26contracts
31:27for
31:27finding
31:28oil,
31:29finding
31:29hydrogen,
31:30finding
31:31gas,
31:31di ba?
31:40Is
31:40attorney
31:41Glenn
31:41still
31:41there?
31:45Ah?
31:46Nah?
31:48Sorry?
31:50He's
31:51got?
31:52Sige,
31:53sige.
31:53So,
31:54he's
31:54got?
31:55Okay.
31:56Sige.
31:56So,
31:56okay.
31:57So,
31:58the
31:58disconnect
31:58si
31:58attorney
31:59Glenn.
31:59So,
32:00so far,
32:01what we
32:02have
32:02discussed
32:03were,
32:03because
32:04what I
32:04did
32:04was I
32:05just
32:05cherry
32:05picked
32:06on
32:07the
32:07what I
32:08thought
32:08were
32:09the
32:09highlights.
32:10Hello,
32:10attorney
32:10Glenn,
32:10welcome
32:11back.
32:11And I
32:11just
32:11can't
32:12talk to
32:12the viewers.
32:13So,
32:13I just
32:14told them
32:14that
32:15because
32:15it's
32:16over
32:16an hour
32:17sauna,
32:17so we
32:18just
32:18pick
32:19on
32:19certain
32:19parts
32:20of the
32:20sauna,
32:21which
32:21we find
32:22to be
32:22an
32:22interesting
32:23point.
32:23I find
32:23to be
32:24an
32:24interesting
32:24point
32:24of
32:24discussion.
32:25Sige,
32:25you continue
32:26attorney
32:26Glenn.
32:28With the
32:28reforms that
32:29you want to
32:29suggest.
32:32when you
32:32award,
32:35when you
32:36award,
32:37hello,
32:38Darwin,
32:38can you
32:38hear me?
32:39Yes,
32:39yes,
32:40clearly,
32:41attorney
32:41Glenn.
32:43Hello?
32:44Yes,
32:44I can
32:44hear you,
32:45attorney
32:45Glenn.
32:48Hello,
32:48Darwin,
32:49hello?
32:49Yes,
32:49attorney
32:50Glenn,
32:50I can
32:50hear you.
32:51No,
32:51I can
32:53hear you,
32:54attorney
32:54Glenn.
33:00he was
33:01again
33:02disconnected.
33:03Sige,
33:04so going
33:05back,
33:05at least
33:05for the
33:06viewers to
33:07get to
33:07see,
33:07so I
33:08think it's
33:08one hour
33:09and 15
33:09minutes,
33:10if I
33:10remember it
33:11correctly,
33:11or if I
33:12timed it
33:12correctly,
33:14the sauna,
33:14so it's
33:14quite long.
33:15So for
33:16the conversation
33:16of today,
33:17because we
33:18only have
33:18limited time,
33:19so I
33:19just focus
33:20on certain
33:21sections which
33:22are applauded,
33:23but at the
33:24same time,
33:25there are
33:26also certain
33:27skeptics who
33:29are doubting
33:30whether the
33:31president really
33:32is sincere
33:33about it,
33:34and whether the
33:35president could
33:36actually pull it
33:37off,
33:37and so we
33:37covered already
33:38the piece
33:39on corruption,
33:41and we
33:42covered also
33:42the piece
33:43on electricity,
33:46and now we
33:47covered on the
33:48part on how
33:50we respond to
33:51the Middle
33:52East economic
33:53tension.
33:53So yes,
33:55we now have
33:56attorney Glenn
33:57again,
33:58and he's
33:59discussing,
33:59he will
33:59continue his
34:00discussion about
34:00the reform
34:01that he's
34:01suggesting.
34:04Sorry,
34:05my
34:06exoran,
34:06paciencia.
34:09Marcos was
34:10saying that
34:11he approved
34:1214 service
34:13contracts,
34:14the biggest
34:14number in
34:15any
34:15administration.
34:16In other
34:17words,
34:17the government
34:18is passive.
34:19It's just
34:20waiting for
34:21private companies
34:22to apply for
34:23service
34:24contracts
34:24to get
34:25oil or
34:26gas or
34:27hydrogen or
34:27other
34:28natural
34:28resources.
34:29If I
34:30were the
34:31president,
34:32I will
34:33set aside
34:34funds from
34:34the national
34:35budget.
34:35tayo
34:36ang
34:36maghanap
34:37of oil
34:38not the
34:39private
34:39companies.
34:40Why?
34:41Because
34:41when oil
34:43is discovered
34:43or gas
34:44is discovered
34:45by private
34:46companies,
34:46the government
34:47is left
34:48with nothing
34:49but royalties
34:50and taxes.
34:51Diba?
34:52Royalties
34:52lang
34:53ang
34:53makuha
34:53natin
34:53ang
34:54taxes.
34:55Whereas
34:55if the
34:56government
34:56is going
34:56to invest
34:57in the
34:58finding
34:58and discovery
34:59of oil,
35:00lahat
35:00ng oil,
35:01atin yan.
35:03So,
35:03what,
35:05so in
35:05other words,
35:06Darwin,
35:06we will
35:07get to
35:08earn
35:08more
35:08if the
35:10oil is
35:10owned
35:10by the
35:11government
35:11and not
35:12simply
35:12royalties
35:13and taxes.
35:14So,
35:15besides,
35:16kung may
35:17pera
35:17ang gobyerno,
35:18we can
35:18fast track
35:19the effort
35:20to find
35:21oil,
35:21the effort
35:22to find
35:22gas,
35:22the effort
35:23to find
35:24hydrogen
35:24or other
35:25natural
35:25resources
35:26because
35:27nag-invest
35:27ang gobyerno
35:28diyan.
35:28Again,
35:29we go back
35:29to the
35:29issue
35:30of corruption.
35:31If we
35:31can only
35:32save a
35:32fraction
35:33of that
35:33money
35:34from
35:34corruption,
35:35if we
35:35can only
35:36plug
35:36that
35:36corruption,
35:37hindi lang
35:38taxes
35:38ang bababa,
35:39we have
35:40funds
35:40to find
35:41oil,
35:42other
35:42natural
35:42resources
35:43that can
35:44make us
35:44energy
35:45secure.
35:46Now,
35:47you've
35:49mentioned
35:49finding
35:50the
35:51government
35:51itself,
35:52we'll
35:53have
35:53to
35:53find
35:53the
35:53source
35:54of
35:54oil.
35:54Are
35:55you
35:55referring
35:56to
35:56sourcing
35:57of
35:57oil
35:58locally?
35:59Because
35:59I've
36:00also
36:00heard
36:00economists
36:01saying
36:02that
36:03the
36:03factor
36:04why we
36:04are
36:05very
36:06vulnerable
36:06when it
36:07comes to
36:08Middle East
36:09tension,
36:09it's because
36:10of our
36:10heavy,
36:11like super
36:12heavy
36:12dependence
36:13on
36:13importation
36:14of oil.
36:15So,
36:15are you
36:15advocating
36:16with what
36:16you just
36:17said
36:17about
36:17looking
36:18for
36:18sources
36:19within
36:19the
36:20Philippines?
36:21Yes,
36:23we're
36:23going to
36:23find
36:24oil
36:24within
36:25our
36:25own
36:25country
36:26because
36:26there
36:27is.
36:27In fact,
36:28here in
36:28Cebu,
36:29there's
36:30one
36:30discovered
36:31somewhere,
36:31although the
36:32deposit is
36:33not really
36:34very big.
36:35But if
36:36there's
36:36oil
36:37somewhere
36:37in this
36:38country,
36:39this country
36:40has got
36:40some oil
36:41somewhere.
36:43So,
36:48kung
36:48kunti
36:49lang
36:49yung
36:49kumpanyang
36:50pupunta
36:50at
36:50maghahanap,
36:51then it
36:51will
36:52take us
36:52millennium
36:53to find
36:53that
36:54oil.
36:54But if
36:55government
36:55persistently
36:56invest
36:57on
36:57finding
36:57that
36:58oil,
36:58hindi
36:59lang
36:59tayo
36:59ang
36:59may
36:59ari
37:00ng
37:00lahat
37:00ng
37:00oil,
37:01hindi
37:01lang
37:01taxes
37:02or
37:02royalties
37:03ang
37:03pag-aasahan
37:03natin,
37:04kundi
37:04the
37:04oil
37:04itself,
37:05we
37:05will
37:06earn
37:06more.
37:06Look
37:07at
37:07Saudi
37:07Arabia,
37:08look
37:08at
37:08the
37:08United
37:09Arab
37:09Emirates,
37:10they
37:12and
37:15I was
37:15just
37:15actually
37:16looking at
37:17the
37:17time
37:17and
37:17this
37:17is
37:18really
37:18a
37:18wonderful
37:18discussion
37:19but
37:19before
37:19we
37:20close
37:20with
37:21the
37:21Hague,
37:22because
37:22that
37:22was
37:22the
37:23last
37:23part
37:23of
37:23Arizona,
37:24I
37:24just
37:24don't
37:25want
37:25to
37:25leave
37:25this
37:26conversation
37:26without
37:27discussing
37:27about
37:28agriculture
37:28because
37:29I
37:30think
37:30this
37:30is
37:31in
37:31my
37:31view,
37:32this
37:33is
37:33one
37:33of
37:34the
37:36supposedly
37:37pillars
37:38of the
37:39president's
37:39promises
37:40and I'm
37:40talking
37:40about
37:41the
37:4120
37:41peso
37:41rice
37:42but
37:43more
37:44than
37:44just
37:44rice
37:45agriculture
37:45supposedly
37:47is a
37:48backbone
37:49of
37:49our
37:50economy
37:51and
37:51I'm
37:52just
37:52saddened
37:52as an
37:53everyday
37:53person
37:54I'm
37:54just
37:54saddened
37:55that
37:55agriculture
37:56supposedly
37:56is a
37:57strength
37:57given
37:58our
37:59nature
38:00as a
38:01country
38:02and
38:03I'm
38:04still
38:04wondering
38:05why
38:05we
38:05are
38:05a
38:06country
38:06of
38:07consumers
38:07rather
38:08than
38:09producers
38:09and
38:09for
38:10me
38:10agriculture
38:11is
38:11one
38:11part
38:12supposedly
38:12that
38:12we
38:12don't
38:13have
38:13to
38:13import
38:13we
38:14just
38:14have
38:14to
38:15leverage
38:15on
38:15what
38:15we
38:15have
38:16can
38:16you
38:16share
38:17your
38:17thoughts
38:17about
38:18this
38:19minor
38:20part
38:20in
38:21his
38:21Sona
38:22about
38:22food
38:22security
38:25actually
38:25Darwin
38:27if
38:29if
38:29we
38:30only
38:30use
38:31the
38:31government's
38:31resources
38:32to
38:33make
38:36our
38:36farmers
38:37become
38:37more
38:37productive
38:38the
38:38key
38:39there
38:39is
38:39they
38:39should
38:40be
38:40more
38:40productive
38:40they
38:41should
38:41be
38:41more
38:41efficient
38:42because
38:43when
38:43their
38:43production
38:44of
38:44rice
38:44is
38:45efficient
38:45they
38:46actually
38:47produce
38:48more
38:48at
38:49least
38:49cost
38:50so
38:50they
38:50can
38:51sell
38:51it
38:51at
38:51a
38:51far
38:52lower
38:52cost
38:52and
38:53we
38:53do
38:54not
38:54need
38:54to
38:54import
38:55rice
38:55because
38:55they
38:56can
38:56produce
38:56more
38:57so
38:58the
38:58problem
38:58is
39:00somewhere
39:01along
39:01the
39:01line
39:01the
39:04projects
39:04that are
39:05intended
39:05to help
39:05our
39:06farmers
39:07get
39:08sucked
39:08up
39:08by the
39:08corrupt
39:09people
39:10example
39:11lang
39:11example
39:12lang
39:12kanang
39:12farm to
39:13market
39:13road
39:13sa
39:15department
39:15of
39:15agriculture
39:16example
39:17ng farm
39:17to
39:18market
39:18road
39:19the
39:19concept
39:20is
39:20siminto
39:21na tong
39:22kalsada
39:22para
39:24the
39:26palay
39:26that's
39:27produced
39:27in this
39:28area
39:29can reach
39:29the
39:30market
39:30at least
39:30cost
39:31diba
39:32moment
39:32na
39:33dili
39:34lubak
39:34lubak
39:34like
39:34for
39:35example
39:35ha
39:35on
39:36farm
39:36to
39:36market
39:37road
39:37is
39:37lubak
39:37lubak
39:43kalsada
39:45you
39:46lost
39:47already
39:48instead
39:48not only
39:49of
39:49time
39:49but
39:49the
39:50quantity
39:50of
39:51the
39:51rice
39:51that's
39:51lost
39:51so
39:53instead
39:54atong
39:54siminto
39:55what
39:55happens
39:56what
39:57happens
39:57they're
39:58selling
39:58it
39:58they're
39:59selling
40:00the
40:00farm
40:00to
40:00market
40:01road
40:01to
40:01congressmen
40:02and
40:02contractors
40:03so
40:04instead
40:04na
40:061
40:07million
40:07ang
40:07kilometer
40:08250
40:09meters
40:10na lang
40:11so
40:12it takes
40:12more
40:12money
40:13to
40:13complete
40:14the
40:14entire
40:15road
40:15so
40:17because
40:17we
40:17do not
40:17have
40:17the
40:18money
40:18the
40:18road
40:18is
40:19not
40:19completed
40:20example
40:21example
40:22ang
40:23kasagaran
40:24project
40:25is
40:25ito
40:26I have
40:26an
40:26experience
40:27with
40:27this
40:27one
40:28road
40:29resurfacing
40:31kanang
40:32road
40:32resurfacing
40:33lubak-lubak
40:34na
40:34karsada
40:35butangan
40:36og
40:36lagyan
40:37ng
40:37base
40:38course
40:38material
40:39101
40:39yan
40:40sa
40:40department
40:40of
40:40public
40:41works
40:41and
40:41highways
40:41base
40:42course
40:42tapos
40:43pisonin
40:44pag
40:44pison
40:45flat
40:45na
40:46pagdating
40:47ng
40:47ulan
40:48wash
40:48out
40:49wala
40:49na
40:50ang
40:50pera
40:50thank
40:51you
40:51na
40:51balik
40:52ka
40:52na
40:52ulit
40:52sa
40:52lubak-lubak
40:53you
40:54know
40:54darwin
40:55I
40:57was
40:57given
40:58that
40:58kind
40:58of
40:58project
40:58before
40:59when
40:59I
40:59was
40:59congressman
41:00it's
41:00worth
41:01209
41:01million
41:02pesos
41:02back
41:03in
41:042008
41:06that's
41:07a lot
41:07of
41:07money
41:10hello
41:10hello
41:11yes
41:11you can
41:11continue
41:11attorney
41:12glenn
41:13attorney
41:14glenn
41:14hello
41:14yes
41:15no
41:17you're
41:17still
41:17here
41:19you're
41:20still
41:20here
41:20attorney
41:22attorney
41:25can
41:25you
41:26still
41:26hear
41:26me
41:27attorney
41:30okay
41:31so
41:31there
41:32is
41:33again
41:33an
41:33interruption
41:34of
41:35his
41:36internet
41:37connection
41:38so
41:38maybe
41:38that's
41:39one
41:39piece
41:39also
41:40of
41:41our
41:42infra
41:43that
41:43we need
41:44to
41:45work
41:46better
41:46but
41:47anyhow
41:48because
41:48I'm
41:48supposed
41:49to
41:49wrap
41:49up
41:50this
41:50conversation
41:51I hope
41:51he will
41:51be
41:51back
41:52because
41:52the piece
41:53that I
41:53wanted
41:54to cover
41:54towards
41:54the end
41:55is also
41:55the end
41:56of
41:56his
41:56sauna
41:56which
41:57is
41:57on
41:57our
41:58on
41:59the
41:59tension
41:59on
42:00the
42:00west
42:00philippine
42:00sea
42:01but
42:01but
42:01before
42:02we'll
42:02get
42:02into
42:02that
42:03because
42:03I'm
42:03still
42:04hopeful
42:04that
42:05he
42:05would
42:05still
42:06be
42:06able
42:06to
42:07reconnect
42:08so
42:09what
42:09we've
42:09covered
42:10now
42:10is
42:13corruption
42:15and
42:16the
42:16and
42:17we're
42:17not
42:17just
42:18talking
42:18about
42:18the
42:19big
42:19fish
42:19which
42:20is
42:20Martin
42:20former
42:21house
42:21speaker
42:22Martin
42:22Romualdez
42:23it's
42:23important
42:24also
42:24that
42:25we
42:25have
42:26to
42:26see
42:26those
42:27who
42:27are
42:28allegedly
42:28involved
42:30in
42:30corruption
42:30for
42:31them
42:31to
42:32eventually
42:32be
42:33investigated
42:34and
42:36leading
42:37to
42:38the
42:38resolution
42:38of
42:38the
42:38flood
42:39control
42:39and
42:39in
42:40the
42:40course
42:40of
42:40the
42:40conversation
42:41you
42:41can
42:41see
42:41that
42:42the
42:43corruption
42:43is
42:43also
42:44linked
42:44to
42:44how
42:45we
42:45can
42:46find
42:46better
42:47sources
42:47of
42:47energy
42:48and
42:48then
42:48we
42:49talk
42:49also
42:49about
42:49how
42:50plugging
42:50corruption
42:51also
42:51gives
42:51us
42:52resources
42:52to
42:52explore
42:53more
42:54oil
42:55within
42:57the
42:57Philippines
42:58which
42:58would
42:58also
42:59decrease
42:59our
43:00reliance
43:00to
43:01importation
43:02of
43:03fuel
43:04so
43:05now
43:05going
43:05back
43:06attorney
43:06Glenn
43:06you
43:07were
43:07saying
43:09back
43:09in
43:112008
43:11I
43:16found out
43:17in the
43:17national
43:17expenditure
43:18program
43:18when I was
43:20reading it
43:20I was
43:21given
43:22209
43:22million
43:23pesos
43:23worth
43:24of
43:24road
43:25resurfacing
43:28after
43:30three
43:30months
43:31after
43:32three
43:32months
43:34so
43:35you
43:35know
43:35what
43:36that
43:36209
43:37million
43:37I could
43:38easily
43:38earn
43:39105
43:39million
43:40in
43:40three
43:40months
43:40so
43:42I could
43:43have
43:43easily
43:43earned
43:44105
43:44million
43:45in
43:45three
43:45months
43:45and
43:46I
43:46will
43:46not
43:47do
43:47anything
43:47nothing
43:48I
43:48will
43:48just
43:48wait
43:49until
43:49the
43:50project
43:50is
43:50completed
43:51imagine
43:52I
43:52will
43:52earn
43:53more
43:53than
43:53a
43:54million
43:54pesos
43:54every
43:55day
43:56more
43:56than
43:57a
43:57million
43:57pesos
43:57every
43:57day
43:58back
43:58in
43:582008
43:58you
43:59know
43:59what
43:59I
43:59did
43:59I
44:00wrote
44:00to
44:00the
44:01department
44:01of
44:01public
44:01works
44:02and
44:02highways
44:02I
44:02told
44:03them
44:03I'm
44:04returning
44:04this
44:05but I'm
44:06getting
44:06it
44:06back
44:06also
44:07but I
44:07want
44:08it
44:08road
44:08concreting
44:10not
44:11this
44:12kind
44:12of
44:12project
44:13so
44:14when
44:14the
44:14DPWH
44:15returned
44:15it
44:15to
44:15me
44:16it
44:16was
44:17for
44:17road
44:17concreting
44:18I
44:18gave
44:18them
44:18the
44:19stations
44:19ito
44:19yung
44:19kalsada
44:20ko
44:20that
44:21I
44:21want
44:21to
44:22be
44:22concreted
44:22so
44:23you
44:23know
44:23what
44:24Darwin
44:25when
44:26I
44:26first
44:27started
44:27as
44:27congressman
44:28in
44:28Biliran
44:29Biliran
44:29was
44:29perennial
44:30top
44:3110
44:31poorest
44:32province
44:32of
44:32the
44:32Philippines
44:33our
44:34poverty
44:34incidence
44:35at that
44:35time
44:36was
44:3670%
44:37so
44:38a lot
44:40of
44:40people
44:40were
44:41really
44:41poor
44:41and
44:42then
44:42when
44:43I
44:43attended
44:43a
44:44World
44:44Bank
44:44seminar
44:4520
44:45lang
44:45kaming
44:46young
44:46congressman
44:47they
44:47called
44:47us
44:47together
44:48and
44:48sabi
44:48nila
44:48when
44:50you
44:50concretize
44:51your
44:51road
44:51and
44:51connect
44:52it
44:52to
44:52the
44:52national
44:53network
44:53you
44:54gain
44:5422
44:55times
44:55more
44:55benefit
44:56so
44:57that's
44:57exactly
44:57what
44:58I
44:58did
44:59at
45:02the
45:02time
45:03my
45:03opponent
45:05concreted
45:0632
45:06kilometers
45:07in 12
45:08years
45:08I
45:09delivered
45:0931
45:10kilometers
45:11in
45:11just
45:123
45:12years
45:12so
45:13when
45:16I
45:16stepped
45:17down
45:20as
45:21congressman
45:21after
45:22one
45:22term
45:22poverty
45:23incidence
45:24was
45:2430%
45:26so
45:27you
45:27see
45:27nabaligtad
45:28na
45:28ko
45:28ang
45:30poverty
45:30incidence
45:31from
45:3170%
45:32to
45:3230%
45:33in
45:33just
45:333
45:34years
45:34that's
45:35why
45:35you
45:35will
45:35not
45:35say
45:35Billy
45:35run
45:36in
45:36the top
45:3710
45:37poorest
45:37province
45:38anymore
45:38so
45:39you
45:39see
45:40corruption
45:42goes
45:43a long
45:43way
45:43to
45:44keep
45:44people
45:44poor
45:45that's
45:46the
45:46same
45:46way
45:47in
45:47our
45:47agriculture
45:47the
45:48biggest
45:49sector
45:49of
45:50our
45:50economy
45:50so
45:51actually
45:52if we
45:52modernize
45:53our
45:53agriculture
45:54our
45:55economy
45:55will
45:55grow
45:55faster
45:56and
45:56bigger
45:56so
45:58I
45:59also
45:59hope
45:59that
46:00our
46:00viewers
46:00are
46:01able
46:01to
46:01see
46:01there
46:02are
46:03so
46:03many
46:04things
46:04that
46:05we
46:05can
46:06already
46:06do
46:07just
46:07by
46:08saving
46:08on
46:09the
46:10part
46:11of
46:11our
46:11financial
46:12resources
46:13that
46:14just
46:14went
46:14to
46:15corruption
46:15so
46:17that's
46:18one of
46:19the key
46:19takeaways
46:19in this
46:20conversation
46:20yes
46:21attorney
46:23this
46:23is
46:23what
46:24I
46:24offer
46:24our
46:24viewers
46:25I
46:26also
46:27I
46:27use
46:28public
46:29funds
46:31but
46:31nobody
46:32has
46:33ever
46:33sued
46:33me
46:33not
46:35even
46:35Marcos
46:36not
46:37even
46:37Aquino
46:39why
46:40because
46:41I
46:41give it
46:45all to
46:46my
46:46people
46:46and
46:47I
46:47serve
46:48them
46:48well
46:48that's
46:49why
46:49I
46:49can
46:49say
46:50my
46:50mind
46:51I
46:51can
46:52talk
46:52without
46:53fear
46:54I
46:54can
46:54talk
46:55I
46:55can
46:55pay
46:55attention
46:55Mr.
46:56Marcos
46:56and
46:57he
46:57cannot
46:57sue
46:57me
46:58because
47:00imagine
47:02I
47:02let go
47:03of
47:03105
47:03million
47:04pesos
47:04in
47:05three
47:05months
47:05more
47:05than
47:05a
47:06million
47:06pesos
47:06every
47:06day
47:07if
47:07I
47:07can
47:08let
47:08go
47:08of
47:08that
47:08money
47:09I
47:09can
47:09let
47:09go
47:09of
47:09bigger
47:10money
47:10if
47:11only
47:11we
47:12can
47:12do
47:12that
47:12if
47:12only
47:13our
47:13public
47:13officials
47:14can
47:14do
47:14that
47:14we
47:15will
47:15go
47:16a
47:16long
47:16way
47:18and
47:21optimistic
47:22about
47:23our
47:23future
47:23at
47:24least
47:24even
47:24in
47:25spite
47:25of
47:25what's
47:26happening
47:26in
47:26the
47:26present
47:26now
47:27I'd
47:27like
47:27to
47:27end
47:28this
47:28conversation
47:29attorney
47:29Glenn
47:29but
47:29I
47:30hope
47:30we
47:30will
47:30have
47:30parts
47:31two
47:31three
47:31and
47:31four
47:32in
47:32the
47:32future
47:32with
47:33the
47:33end
47:34also
47:36of
47:37the
47:37president
47:37speech
47:37and
47:38I
47:39have
47:39to
47:40admit
47:40in
47:40this
47:41part
47:41more
47:41became
47:41slightly
47:42emotional
47:43because
47:44it
47:45was
47:46able
47:46to
47:46successfully
47:47bring
47:48out
47:48the
47:49patriotic
47:49side
47:50of
47:51me
47:51and
47:51this
47:52is
47:52the
47:52part
47:52when
47:53he
47:53said
47:53we
47:54are
47:54respectful
47:55we
47:56are
47:56dignified
47:57although
47:58it's
47:58translated
47:58in
47:59English
47:59we
48:00are
48:00Filipinos
48:01and
48:02we
48:02do
48:03not
48:03yield
48:03and
48:04his
48:05term
48:05that
48:06he
48:06used
48:06about
48:07this
48:07is
48:07a
48:08portion
48:08of
48:09Bayang
48:09Magiliu
48:09or
48:10national
48:10anthem
48:11di tayo
48:12pasisi
48:13il
48:13and
48:13that
48:14to
48:14me
48:14was
48:14very
48:16meaningful
48:17but
48:17the
48:17bigger
48:18question
48:19here
48:19attorney
48:20Glenn
48:20is
48:21how
48:21can
48:22we
48:22exactly
48:23defend
48:24our
48:25sovereignty
48:27without
48:29escalating
48:30tension
48:31I think
48:32that's the
48:33piece
48:33I'm for
48:34it
48:35but I'm
48:36not seeing
48:36where the
48:37balance
48:38should be
48:41Darwin
48:41I'll
48:42start
48:42with
48:42this
48:44I'll
48:44start
48:44with
48:44this
48:45answer
48:46if
48:46I
48:47were
48:47the
48:47monkey
48:47king
48:49I
48:49will
48:49consider
48:50recognizing
48:51Taiwan
48:51instead
48:52of the
48:52people's
48:53republic
48:53of
48:53china
48:53that
48:54will
48:55send
48:55them
48:55to
48:55to
48:56China
48:57you know
48:59because
48:59they
48:59called us
49:00monkeys
49:00and I
49:01really
49:01really
49:01hate
49:02them
49:02for
49:02what
49:02they
49:04portrayed
49:04with
49:04us
49:05if
49:08I
49:08were
49:08the
49:08monkey
49:09king
49:10then
49:10I
49:10will
49:11or
49:11the
49:11monkey
49:11president
49:12I
49:13will
49:13consider
49:15recognizing
49:15Taiwan
49:16instead
49:16of the
49:17people's
49:17republic
49:17of
49:18China
49:18so
49:19that
49:19should
49:19send
49:19a
49:20strong
49:20message
49:20to
49:20them
49:20but
49:21going
49:22to
49:22your
49:22answer
49:23going
49:24to
49:24your
49:24question
49:24this
49:25is
49:25one
49:26thing
49:26I
49:26was
49:26waiting
49:26for
49:27Marcos
49:27to
49:27say
49:29I
49:30wanted
49:30to
49:30hear
49:31from
49:31him
49:31more
49:32than
49:32just
49:32words
49:33but
49:34concrete
49:34investment
49:35in the
49:36modernization
49:37of our
49:37armed
49:37forces
49:38you
49:39see
49:39our
49:41diplomacy
49:42our
49:43diplomatic
49:43power
49:44is
49:44meaningless
49:45without
49:45a
49:45military
49:46backing
49:46it
49:47without
49:48a
49:49strong
49:49military
49:50backing
49:50our
49:50efforts
49:51for
49:51diplomatic
49:52resolution
49:53walang
49:54hindi
49:55tayo
49:55igagalang
49:56ng
49:56China
49:56you
49:57see
49:57the
49:58example
49:58I
49:59can
49:59offer
49:59you
49:59is
50:00Indonesia
50:01Indonesia
50:04has
50:05more
50:06than
50:06almost
50:07400
50:07ships
50:08China
50:09has
50:09about
50:09400
50:10ships
50:10or
50:10almost
50:10equal
50:11sila
50:11they
50:12are
50:13also
50:13they
50:14have
50:14conflicting
50:15claims
50:15in
50:15Natuna
50:16Island
50:16Indonesia
50:19is
50:20claiming
50:20Natuna
50:21is
50:21actually
50:22occupying
50:22Natuna
50:23China
50:23is
50:23claiming
50:25Natuna
50:25but
50:26never
50:28never
50:29kang
50:30makadungog
50:30nagi
50:31water
50:33cannon
50:33ang
50:34Indonesian
50:34Navy
50:35because
50:37China
50:37recognizes
50:38that
50:39the
50:39Navy
50:39of
50:40Indonesia
50:40is
50:41also
50:41powerful
50:41they
50:42have
50:42submarines
50:43now
50:43they
50:43have
50:44an
50:44aircraft
50:44carrier
50:44that's
50:46why
50:46China
50:47respects
50:48Indonesia
50:48it
50:50does
50:50not
50:50respect
50:51the
50:51Philippines
50:51because
50:52they
50:52know
50:53that
50:53we
50:54cannot
50:55our
50:56ships
50:56are
50:56only
50:57about
50:57128
50:57and
50:58they
50:59have
50:59more
50:59than
50:59400
51:01you
51:01see
51:02I
51:03would
51:03I
51:04would
51:04have
51:04preferred
51:05Marcos
51:05to
51:06commit
51:06to
51:08strengthening
51:08and
51:09modernizing
51:09the
51:10armed
51:10forces
51:11of the
51:11Philippines
51:11to
51:11back up
51:12our
51:12diplomatic
51:12efforts
51:13because
51:14that
51:15would
51:15be
51:15meaningless
51:15without
51:16military
51:18strength
51:19so
51:20that's
51:21my
51:21take
51:21on
51:21that
51:22issue
51:22Darwin
51:23and
51:24thank
51:25you
51:25for
51:26sharing
51:26your
51:27thoughts
51:27about
51:27that
51:27and
51:29for
51:30the
51:30benefit
51:30of
51:30the
51:30viewers
51:31and
51:31my
51:31thoughts
51:31about
51:32that
51:32I
51:32also
51:33agree
51:33I
51:34think
51:34the
51:34reason
51:34why
51:35we're
51:35vulnerable
51:36when it
51:37comes
51:37to
51:39let's
51:39call
51:39it
51:40bullying
51:40it's
51:41also
51:41because
51:45there's
51:45really
51:45no
51:46teeth
51:46that
51:47we
51:47could
51:48present
51:48and
51:48I
51:49would
51:49agree
51:49the
51:50modernization
51:50of
51:51our
51:51naval
51:52force
51:53and
51:53also
51:54the
51:54military
51:54our
51:55strength
51:55would
51:56also
51:57have
51:57been
51:57a
51:57capital
51:57for
51:58us
51:58not
51:58to
51:59be
51:59bullied
51:59just
51:59like
51:59that
52:00we
52:01need
52:01to
52:01invest
52:02in
52:02our
52:02security
52:03because
52:04that
52:04will
52:04pave
52:05our
52:05future
52:05that
52:06will
52:06ensure
52:06our
52:07sovereignty
52:07again
52:08the
52:08question
52:09is
52:09since
52:10it's
52:10very
52:10expensive
52:11if
52:12we
52:12only
52:12plug
52:13the
52:14loopholes
52:14on
52:14corruption
52:15we
52:16could
52:16buy
52:16more
52:16correct
52:17so
52:18I
52:18think
52:18the
52:19overarching
52:20theme
52:21here
52:21is
52:22just
52:22by
52:23plugging
52:23corruption
52:24there
52:24are
52:25so
52:25many
52:25things
52:25that
52:26we
52:26can
52:26use
52:27and
52:27invest
52:28that
52:28money
52:28including
52:29national
52:29security
52:31without
52:32adding
52:32taxes
52:33to
52:33the
52:33people
52:35we
52:36could
52:36gain
52:37more
52:37we
52:37could
52:38do
52:38more
52:38we
52:38could
52:39modernize
52:39our
52:39military
52:40we
52:40could
52:40find
52:41oil
52:41and
52:41fund
52:42it
52:42on
52:42our
52:42own
52:42we
52:43could
52:43invest
52:44more
52:44on
52:44public
52:44infrastructure
52:45without
52:45resorting
52:46to
52:46loans
52:47and
52:48yet
52:48we
52:48could
52:49lower
52:49income
52:49taxes
52:51thank
52:52you
52:52very
52:53much
52:53attorney
52:53Glenn
52:53and
52:54yes
52:54this
52:55has
52:56been
52:56a
52:56very
52:56interesting
52:57conversation
52:58and
52:58I
52:58look
52:59forward
52:59to
52:59the
53:00next
53:00but
53:01for
53:01now
53:01we're
53:02very
53:02grateful
53:02for
53:03your
53:03time
53:03and
53:04for
53:04sharing
53:04your
53:04insights
53:05regarding
53:06the
53:06president's
53:07Sona
53:09I
53:10mean
53:10it's
53:11my
53:11it's
53:12I'm
53:13very
53:13grateful
53:13for
53:14having
53:14me
53:14in
53:14your
53:14program
53:15and
53:15I
53:16look
53:16forward
53:16to
53:16the
53:16next
53:17topic
53:17you
53:17want
53:18to
53:18discuss
53:18and
53:19we
53:19are
53:19just
53:20as
53:20grateful
53:20attorney
53:20Glenn
53:21so
53:21as
53:22citizens
53:23our
53:23responsibility
53:24is not
53:25simply
53:25to
53:26applaud
53:26or
53:27criticize
53:27it
53:29is
53:29to
53:29look
53:29deeper
53:30and
53:30think
53:31better
53:32headlines
53:33tell us
53:33what
53:34happened
53:34understanding
53:35tells us
53:36why
53:37it
53:37matters
53:38so
53:38I'm
53:39DJ
53:39Moises
53:39this
53:40is
53:40beyond
53:40the
53:41headlines
53:41we'll
53:41see
53:42you
53:42next
53:42time
53:42have
53:43a
53:43good
53:43afternoon
54:07it
54:07it
54:07crafted
54:08one
54:09cup
54:09at
54:10a
54:10time
54:10your
54:11perfect
54:11latte
54:12is
54:12ready
54:12coffee
54:14first
54:14then
54:15everything
54:16else
54:21you
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