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Imagine que usted lleva más de 15 años en una de las empresas de tecnología más exitosas del mundo, es el jefe, pero la compañía decide hacer una reestructuración global y eliminan su cargo. Le proponen moverse a otra posición o cambiar de país, pero ninguna de las dos era una alternativa a los 45 años y con hijos abordo. ¿Usted qué haría? Sin trabajo, con la presión encima por la educación de los niños, tres idiomas y más de 20 años de experiencia, vio cómo le cerraban las puertas en la búsqueda de empleo, entonces encontró un camino en la Inteligencia Artificial. Así nació “IA con canas” y Giovanni Stella es su protagonista. En esta entrevista detalla cómo la vida va cambiando tan rápido que a veces no logramos identificar el camino, pero, si existe criterio y experiencia, la tecnología puede ser la salvación. Bienvenidos.
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00:00Today we have a guest who talks about artificial intelligence, but also about gray hair.
00:04We're in your home and here comes a new installment of Entrepreneurship and Leadership.
00:17Giovanni Estela.
00:19Giovanni, welcome to this space for the viewer of entrepreneurship and leadership.
00:25of topics that are also fashionable nowadays and I think you are a protagonist.
00:31It turns out he's also recently released a book.
00:33I requested this interview before anyone announced that he had a book in hand.
00:38And then, as fate would have it, it arrived at my house; I have it in my suitcase.
00:43And I also have some questions about the book.
00:46But imagine that Giovanni was the head of Google in Colombia
00:51And today he's an entrepreneur talking about artificial intelligence with gray hair.
00:55I want us to start there.
00:57How could he have been the head of Google in Colombia?
01:00And from one moment to the next you recount it in your book, you have done so in your posts,
01:04On social media, his life changes and he becomes an entrepreneur.
01:09What do you mean? Tell us, Giovanni.
01:10Well, yes, last year, I was at Google for many years, I was at Google for almost 18 years.
01:17Here in Colombia, 10, 7 of whom are leading operations in Colombia, Central America and the Caribbean,
01:26That is, the office here.
01:28And last year, indeed, in February, at the end of February, I was informed that my position was being eliminated.
01:36My role was being deleted.
01:38Why is that?
01:38Because Google is in a stage of internal reorganization
01:46And among several changes that have taken place in the last three years,
01:52They decided to eliminate the position.
01:55Then, the singing and live performance positions in Colombia were grouped into a new regional position,
02:01They put another person in charge of that region
02:04And they gave me a month to find another position within the company
02:09or having to go out.
02:12And a month, frankly, is a very short time to be able to find it.
02:16There weren't any in Colombia, there weren't any in the region.
02:18I would have had to move again to another place or another continent.
02:24Ready to start a new life?
02:25Ready to start a new life?
02:26There are some things to do in a new life when you're 25, and another thing.
02:31She now has gray hair and a more settled life.
02:36So, nothing, obviously, I mean, a lot of fright, a lot of fear.
02:41At first, on the one hand, I had a voice in my head that told me,
02:49No, the responsible thing to do is to automatically look for another job.
02:55And then I went out, I participated in some processes,
02:59I applied for many positions.
03:01The truth is, nothing, I applied to many.
03:08I was called for interviews at some of them,
03:11But there weren't that many either.
03:14And meanwhile,
03:16The idea of starting a business began to take shape in my mind.
03:22I've wanted to start my own business for a long time.
03:25I had already tried years ago,
03:29I had a startup in Italy,
03:31two startups in Italy in 2011, 2012, 2013, those years.
03:37And I always had the feeling that I needed it.
03:43I needed it because I like it.
03:44because it's a way of measuring myself
03:46and to challenge myself to learn to do new things.
03:50Except that I was still shaken and stressed from saying,
03:57I need to win again now, and I need it for my ego too.
04:00I need to prove to myself that the best is over.
04:08Because that's also something that comes to mind.
04:12I like that he touches on that part, because as an executive, I...
04:17or one sees the top executives
04:19and there is a significant share of its success
04:24with one thing you said, and that is the ego.
04:26What hurts the most after having a career
04:29in probably the company where everyone wanted to work,
04:33Successful again?
04:34I was talking to Giovanni before this interview
04:36and I had spoken to him many times,
04:38I, as a technology and telecommunications reporter
04:40and him as a Google executive.
04:43And what hurt him the most at that moment?
04:45That they touched his ego,
04:46which was later rejected by other companies
04:49because you have said so in your publications,
04:53the pressure because you're a dad
04:55And one has to be financially responsible for many things.
04:59Or, in one way or another, to say
05:01Well, I had to start from scratch to become an entrepreneur
05:03knowing that one does not earn money from day one.
05:05Yes, what hurts me about the ego is,
05:09On one hand, obviously, there is a feeling,
05:14a bit of a feeling of shame that comes over you.
05:19This is the first time this has happened to me.
05:21I know it's relatively normal,
05:23So I speak from my own experience,
05:25I don't mean to say that's the case for everyone,
05:28Nor do I want it to feel more difficult or heavier
05:31of what it can be.
05:32In other words, I tell my personal story.
05:34For me, I felt a sense of shame about,
05:37That is, because we grow a little.
05:41and we get used to the idea that
05:44If you leave a company,
05:46if you are removed from a company or a position
05:48It's because you did something wrong.
05:50Yeah.
05:50There's a bit of that perception.
05:51And me too, to be honest.
05:53Or our generation.
05:54Or our generation.
05:55I say 'our', I am 45 years old.
05:56How old are you, Johnny?
05:5745.
05:58Our generation was more focused on
06:00He studies at a good university and succeeds.
06:03build a successful career in a job
06:06and climb the social ladder of that job.
06:10So, if someone in that job is told to leave,
06:12one believes that he definitely did something wrong
06:14and that structure breaks down
06:17This generation was formed.
06:18Yes, that's exactly right.
06:19Then, you start saying, like, you have that thing that weighs you down.
06:25Because you say, how am I going to tell it?
06:30How am I going to explain this now?
06:33And then there's the other thing, which is the loss of status.
06:38Because after so many years at a company...
06:42A country like Colombia.
06:43Yes, yes.
06:43I think so.
06:44And that's natural too.
06:45I mean, I'm not the kind of guy who's that full of himself.
06:49I've always considered myself very...
06:53Very down-to-earth, as they say.
06:56But equally, after years in a position,
06:58You get used to it.
07:00There are certain privileges.
07:01Yes, there are certain privileges.
07:02And leading a company like Google,
07:04which is, let's say, a sexy company,
07:07that people like,
07:09It's something that opens doors for you.
07:11So, you get used to being treated in a certain way.
07:15And from one day to the next, all of that falls apart.
07:19You lose that, you lose that status.
07:22People who used to speak to you in a certain way,
07:25He starts talking to you in a different way.
07:27It begins to change, literally,
07:29the way people relate to you.
07:34And coupled with that sense of shame.
07:38So, that, to be honest, was tough.
07:40But, obviously, also fear,
07:42which is the other component of fear,
07:44especially with children.
07:46As soon as I was told,
07:47The first thing I think is,
07:48How can I maintain the children's standard of living?
07:53First.
07:54At the moment my boss was still talking to me,
07:56That was the first thing I thought.
08:01So, nothing, a lot of negative things at the same time
08:04And indeed, that loss of status meant a little bit of status.
08:10And I think the main problem,
08:11I have had the opportunity in these months
08:13from speaking with several leaders or former leaders
08:16or people who have gone through a similar stage
08:18coming from a position of power, let's say,
08:21or responsibility.
08:22So, many people stay there, right?
08:25They're left with the bear and the shame
08:29that thing makes you feel.
08:30They fail to get past that stage.
08:31They fail to get past that stage.
08:32It's not easy.
08:33I mean, let's say it, especially me, yes.
08:35Well, I can't speak for other countries.
08:36because I don't live in other countries,
08:37But in Colombia there is a kind of social stigma.
08:40And one way or another,
08:43Well, in Colombia, to have a good education
08:45You need to have a good income.
08:46Let's start there.
08:47So, you think about all that.
08:49It's difficult to move along a strip.
08:51when one has been in the same armchair
08:53He had it his whole life and then suddenly he takes it off.
08:55Yes, yes.
08:57That fear comes to mind.
08:59What will they say?
09:00and many are unable to move from there.
09:03And then they retreat to a corner or hide,
09:05in quotation marks.
09:07And that has a little to do with the shape
09:09that I decided to handle those things
09:11Because that's when I started to feel,
09:14to feel the...
09:17I didn't want to...
09:18I wanted to tell what was happening,
09:20I didn't want to go out and say,
09:22I don't know, I'm taking...
09:23I've decided to take a break,
09:25I have decided...
09:26Because?
09:26The traditional message.
09:27The traditional message.
09:28Because, besides, the world is small.
09:31Everyone was going to know anyway.
09:33And I imagined...
09:35I'm at the idea of starting to say
09:37that I was going to take a break,
09:39I felt...
09:41not only was he lying,
09:42but was like certifying
09:48that I had done something wrong.
09:51Clear.
09:51And I have nothing to hide.
09:53So, in the end, well, that's it.
09:54a company decision,
09:55They are taking it.
09:58Ugly, clever, whatever you want,
10:00But just accept it.
10:02And then I started to think,
10:05the only way to overcome that thing
10:08It's about taking ownership now
10:09to say myself
10:13What are they throwing at me?
10:14Start counting myself
10:16what is happening,
10:17start telling openly
10:19and to share emotions,
10:23the feelings, the ups and downs, etc.
10:25But doing that
10:27It will allow me to overcome
10:30the worst thing is
10:32the fear they would inspire.
10:33Because the moment you expose yourself,
10:35It's over.
10:36It's over.
10:37I hear it there,
10:38I've read it too.
10:40in their publications,
10:42kind of like that
10:43to discover their own identity.
10:45How this whole process happens
10:47to discover
10:48their own identity.
10:49And when one discovers,
10:50As I understand it,
10:51their own identity,
10:53It's that he keeps finding
10:54the other way.
10:55And that's the way
10:56to understand gray hair
10:58as a possibility
10:59and understand a world
11:00that you probably knew
11:01better than many.
11:02Because it was in there
11:03And it was artificial intelligence.
11:05How is it being integrated?
11:05All that, Giovanni?
11:07That's very nice.
11:08Let's see, that...
11:11What's happening?
11:12What happened?
11:13I already did the last two years
11:15on Google
11:17I was feeling
11:18with fear
11:19because Google was coming
11:21two years ago
11:21making cuts, etc.
11:23And I knew
11:24that my position
11:25and positions like mine
11:27They were at risk.
11:29In fact,
11:29after,
11:30last year,
11:31also others
11:33directors have left,
11:34etc.
11:35Because
11:35It's a stage
11:36that the company is experiencing.
11:37It's neither good nor bad,
11:39That's what's happening.
11:40But I knew
11:42that that could happen.
11:43So,
11:44I felt scared
11:45because, as he said,
11:48If that happens,
11:50There are two problems.
11:52One,
11:52my identity
11:53It is closely associated with Google.
11:55That is to say,
11:55many people
11:56He knows me as Giovanni
11:57Google's.
11:59And I am not Giovanni Stella,
12:01I'm Giovanni from Google.
12:02Or Gio from Google.
12:04And I wanted to get out of there
12:05because, as he said,
12:07If they take away my Google,
12:08What remains?
12:09And I say,
12:09What about the last name?
12:11What about my last name?
12:13And the other thing
12:14the thing is
12:15besides feeling
12:17that feeling
12:18a little bit of anxiety,
12:19the anguish stemmed
12:21also from
12:23feel that
12:24My profile
12:25I was like
12:26I mean,
12:28that he did not have
12:30that
12:31it was no longer
12:32so attractive.
12:34Because
12:35Yeah,
12:36it's true,
12:37was leading
12:38a major company,
12:39etc.
12:40But
12:42I felt
12:43that my skills
12:44at the product level
12:45and knowledge
12:46to the people
12:48younger
12:49that I
12:49I knew more.
12:51Level
12:52leadership
12:53There were leaders
12:54with more experience
12:55that I.
12:57So,
12:58I felt
12:59as in a
12:59intermediate land
13:02where it said,
13:03If that ever happens to me
13:05And I expose myself
13:06to leave
13:07looking for a job
13:07from a position
13:08of weakness
13:09what is
13:09when
13:10They take you out
13:11what are you
13:12needing
13:13you find a job,
13:14It's going to be difficult for me.
13:15a lot.
13:16And indeed
13:17That was kind of how it was.
13:19Almost
13:20as he understood
13:21Giovanni,
13:22passed.
13:22Yeah,
13:23Yeah.
13:23I mean,
13:23in fact,
13:24I started
13:25to apply,
13:26Yeah,
13:26I reached the end
13:27of a pair
13:27of processes,
13:29one
13:30of one thing
13:31which I would have loved
13:32do,
13:32that I cannot share,
13:33but I would have loved it
13:34do,
13:34that I couldn't do.
13:35but in general,
13:37regarding the quantity
13:38of applications
13:39that I sent,
13:40I had very few interviews.
13:45And then,
13:46All of that led me
13:47to think,
13:48but,
13:49Okay,
13:50That's happening.
13:51But I have to find,
13:53I'll find a way around it,
13:54because it cannot be
13:55that my 20 years
13:57of experience,
13:58having lived
13:58in five countries,
14:00on three continents,
14:01speak three languages,
14:03having lived
14:04three revolutions
14:05technological,
14:06it just can't be
14:07that I am not capable
14:09of packaging that
14:10In one way,
14:11or of,
14:12let's say,
14:13to bring out all the good,
14:14No?,
14:15about that,
14:15and do something
14:17I'm positive about that.
14:18it just can't be.
14:20So,
14:20That's where I started
14:21to unite
14:23that thing
14:23with artificial intelligence,
14:25because
14:25that feeling
14:26of inadequacy
14:27also derived
14:29of the fact
14:29that
14:33I was using
14:34artificial intelligence
14:35less
14:35of what I felt
14:37what I should do.
14:39And that's where it was
14:40that I started
14:40to think
14:41in that idea
14:42already with gray hair.
14:43I had already left.
14:44Giovanni from Google.
14:45Yeah,
14:46there was,
14:47He was coming out there,
14:48because those were the last months
14:49and
14:50when me
14:51communicate
14:52that I was going to leave,
14:53I started
14:54to think,
14:55I need,
14:56first
14:57What do I have to do?
14:57is
14:59start studying
15:00a lot more
15:00artificial intelligence.
15:01Because?
15:03Because I know
15:03that I can
15:04to become a benchmark
15:05artificial intelligence
15:06because I've been doing it for years
15:07listening
15:08and studying
15:09artificial intelligence
15:10at least
15:10certain type
15:11of messages
15:12and business topics
15:13artificial intelligence
15:14because of the role
15:15that I had on Google.
15:17I also know
15:18which can be
15:18a fortress of mine
15:19because
15:20nobody can
15:21discuss
15:22the authority
15:22that I may have
15:23for having been
15:2520 years
15:26on Google
15:27for the charges
15:27etc.
15:28Then he said
15:29that can become
15:30a point of strength
15:31mine
15:33but I need
15:35I need to understand
15:35further,
15:36need
15:37get more involved
15:38I
15:39to do things
15:41and leave
15:42the role
15:42so executive
15:43I mean
15:43back to
15:44to the operation
15:45to the operation.
15:46Yes, yes,
15:46It's just that sometimes
15:47they tell one
15:48No,
15:48it is even
15:49what they teach him
15:50to one
15:50in the master's program
15:51in the MBA
15:51And that's because
15:52when one is
15:52in those positions
15:53one directs
15:54the ship
15:54but one
15:55It's not going to move
15:56the machines.
15:57One is not
15:57moving the oars
15:58one is not
15:59loading the ship
16:00one directs it
16:01he's at the helm
16:02or even says
16:03how to move
16:04the rudder
16:05That's interesting.
16:06I think so too
16:07It's a message
16:07for schools
16:08business
16:08that sometimes
16:09They look at you
16:10and they put one
16:11in a position
16:11but not
16:14They look at one
16:15that can occur
16:16these situations
16:17and they don't prepare it
16:18one for that.
16:19No,
16:19And in fact I think
16:20that today
16:20it becomes
16:21even more relevant
16:22important
16:23which also
16:25the leaders
16:26know
16:26I mean
16:27so that one
16:28know
16:29understand
16:30how to handle
16:30artificial intelligence
16:31needs
16:33know
16:34how it works
16:35so
16:36one identifies
16:37one way or another
16:38an opportunity
16:39And that's how
16:40startups are born
16:41when one sees
16:41an opportunity
16:42And that's how
16:43startups are born
16:44by opportunity
16:44and not out of necessity
16:45However, here I feel
16:46that mixed
16:47both things
16:48entrepreneurship
16:49by opportunity
16:49and out of necessity
16:50how it is born
16:51Iacon Canas
16:52Iacon Canas
16:54born from
16:55that series
16:56of reflections
16:57that is having
16:58about me
16:59Well, my situation
17:00in employment
17:01and so on
17:03to think
17:04if this situation
17:06I am living it
17:07having been
17:08so long
17:09on Google
17:10having been
17:11the head
17:12from Google
17:12and so on
17:12Imagine
17:14how might it feel
17:15a person
17:16that
17:17has
17:18I don't know
17:1820 years
17:19of experience
17:19and it's far away
17:20of the world
17:21of technology
17:21if jobs
17:23analogues
17:24let's say
17:24For example
17:25For example
17:26examples
17:27that gives
17:27me at the level
17:28electrician
17:29the plumber
17:30the driver
17:31of a transport
17:31public
17:32people who are
17:33distant
17:33of the stage
17:34technological
17:35in which
17:35snap
17:35or not
17:35almost
17:36exact
17:38and then
17:39said
17:41really
17:43intelligence
17:44artificial
17:44I mean
17:46No
17:47intelligence
17:48artificial
17:48generative
17:49intelligence
17:49artificial
17:50in general
17:50could be
17:51very complex
17:51but intelligence
17:52artificial
17:52generative
17:53learn to use
17:54chaje pt
17:55cloud
17:55Gemini
17:55It's not difficult.
17:58It's one thing
17:59relatively simple
18:00as I said
18:00in the book
18:01It's like
18:01Ask Google
18:02Yeah
18:03literal
18:03you ask him
18:04to the same
18:05she
18:05help me understand
18:06how it uses you
18:07and
18:08only that
18:09that jump
18:10many people
18:10It doesn't give it.
18:11and stays
18:11in the stage
18:12of fear
18:13to feel
18:14that is not
18:16understanding
18:16that is becoming
18:17back
18:18outside
18:19so
18:21said
18:21I want to start
18:23to help
18:24to these people
18:25to understand
18:26how to use
18:27artificial intelligence
18:28removing the part
18:30of the technical term
18:31and of complexity
18:32that many times
18:32people feel
18:33which derives from
18:35that are used
18:36big words
18:37are used
18:38complicated things
18:39from the expert
18:40clear
18:40about that
18:40He speaks to experts.
18:41and really
18:42no need
18:43no need
18:44complicate it
18:46and it's not needed
18:47also
18:48understand
18:49how it works
18:50an algorithm
18:50machine learning
18:51in order to be able to
18:53ask a question
18:54to your HPT
18:55so
18:58from there
18:59I'm posting something
19:00on LinkedIn
19:03telling a little
19:03that idea
19:04that I wanted to start
19:05to do training
19:06and dissemination
19:07on this topic
19:09And I ask
19:10let's say
19:10as
19:11how do they think
19:12that I have to
19:13call the initiative
19:14and several names were thrown out.
19:15and the one that was most liked
19:17It was already with Canva
19:17Oh yeah?
19:18I mean, it came out of there
19:19as from the conversation
19:21with people
19:21on social network
19:22Oh yeah?
19:23He left there
19:23and
19:24that's where it comes from
19:26and we begin
19:27so
19:27I'll begin then
19:28to develop
19:29he
19:30first newsletter
19:31the weekly
19:33every Saturday
19:34after that
19:35I started doing workshops
19:36workshops
19:36in-person
19:38also register
19:39an online course
19:40I started too
19:41to teach classes
19:41free
19:42sometimes
19:42on social media
19:45nothing
19:46in time
19:46Things kept piling up
19:48that's where they came from
19:49also
19:49Well
19:50I started
19:51to another venture
19:52also
19:52I joined another
19:52entrepreneurship
19:53what is
19:54Glyke
19:54we started to do
19:55corporate workshops
19:58consultancy
19:59for
20:00executives
20:01together
20:01executives
20:02etc
20:03I started to do
20:04mentoring
20:04also
20:05one by one
20:05with
20:06with people
20:07which can be
20:08or businessmen
20:09or people
20:10that they need
20:10simply
20:11or want
20:11that they wanted it
20:12that they wanted
20:15then I discovered
20:16that
20:16I like
20:18the topic
20:18from the consulting firm
20:20strategic
20:20Yeah
20:20but also
20:21the training
20:22I like to educate
20:24I like to explain
20:25and help
20:26to the people
20:26to understand
20:29and in a conversation
20:31with a
20:32an entrepreneur
20:34here in Bogotá
20:35that one day
20:35he wrote to me
20:36via LinkedIn
20:37after watching
20:37a post of mine
20:39he wrote to me
20:40he tells me
20:41hey
20:41Why don't we
20:42Shall we have a coffee?
20:44me too
20:45as
20:46to many
20:47of
20:47to many
20:49of those
20:51offers
20:51I say
20:52yes
20:53because
20:54because
20:55I am convinced
20:56about what
20:57the good things
20:58pass
20:59when one opens up
21:00when one launches
21:01when one connects
21:03when one connects
21:03if one is closed
21:04It's impossible.
21:05We need to open up
21:06and connect
21:06It's impossible.
21:07so
21:07sometimes
21:08sometimes
21:09It happens to you
21:10which are things
21:10which has nothing to do with it
21:11but sometimes
21:12They pass you
21:12interesting things
21:13and in that cafe
21:14that person
21:15He starts to tell me
21:16from a book
21:16that he wrote
21:17and he tells me
21:19I think it would be
21:21which would be good
21:22that you wrote
21:23a book
21:24And I started to think
21:26Could it be?
21:28Could it be?
21:28Could it be?
21:29and then
21:29I started
21:30that each time
21:30who was traveling
21:31by air
21:32He traveled a lot
21:33for work
21:33and also
21:34due to family matters
21:36every time
21:36that I rode
21:37by air
21:37I started to write
21:38a bit
21:38from my book
21:39Oh, really?
21:39Yes, yes
21:40you started to start
21:41on a plane
21:41Yes, you started to get going
21:42on a plane
21:45and then
21:45and then
21:46nothing
21:46then there
21:47I started too
21:48to put it in
21:48obviously
21:48in the article
21:49special
21:51I wrote it
21:52working on it
21:53with
21:53with Jemima
21:54and with Claude
21:56but also
21:57the book
21:57ends up being
21:58in the end
21:58a reflection
21:59of all those things
22:00that have gone to spend
22:01Well
22:01That's good.
22:02because he told us
22:03how he found
22:03the opportunity
22:04how he materialized it
22:06out there in the world
22:07of business
22:08they would tell him
22:08to one
22:08which are
22:09the barriers
22:09entry
22:10which are
22:11the competitors
22:11And the interesting thing is
22:12the thing is
22:14It says so too
22:14in the book
22:15intelligence
22:16artificial
22:17It is a tool
22:18that equates
22:19to the people
22:20the one who is
22:21maybe
22:21far below
22:22and the one who is
22:22way above
22:23can remain
22:24almost identical
22:25And they say so.
22:25many measurements
22:26and many studies
22:27Okay Giovanni
22:27found the opportunity
22:29He found many people
22:30I agree
22:31I wrote
22:32the first article
22:33in the viewer
22:34talking
22:35from ChatGPT
22:35because at that time
22:37Twitter
22:37nowadays
22:38I continued
22:39a community
22:40of engineers
22:41of very geeky people
22:42and they began to talk
22:43about that
22:44and I went in
22:45after having done
22:4627 years old
22:47my MBA
22:47and a lot of sweat
22:48tears
22:48and staying up late
22:49and I started to do it
22:50questions
22:51from the MBA
22:51and she answered me.
22:52all like this
22:53I was saying
22:53How is this possible?
22:54that this happens
22:55in an answer?
22:56and I lasted
22:5627 months
22:57studying it
22:59and this
23:00to say
23:00that one also
23:00it finds
23:01how to understand each other
23:02with intelligence
23:03artificial
23:03I want to ask you
23:05that's why
23:05because also
23:05these questions
23:06that I brought
23:07I designed them
23:07with intelligence
23:08artificial
23:08after having
23:09read part
23:10from the book
23:10of having met
23:11a bit
23:11its history
23:14And that's because
23:15between 2025
23:16and 2027
23:17you say
23:18that is
23:19the window
23:19opportunity
23:20for the guide
23:21what percentage
23:22from that window
23:24It's already closed
23:27And what would you say to him?
23:28to a professional
23:29that today feels
23:30that is coming
23:31late?
23:33No,
23:33which has already closed
23:34I don't think so
23:34that it has closed
23:37but I think
23:38that this year
23:39was
23:40an acceleration
23:42very strong
23:43facing
23:46what can be done
23:47with intelligence
23:48artificial
23:48so now
23:49this year
23:50It's starting
23:51Let's really see
23:51the difference
23:53between
23:53those who already
23:55They are achieving
23:55incorporate
23:56artificial intelligence
23:57in its form
23:57of working
23:58and those who don't
23:59so
24:01when I speak
24:03from a window
24:03I don't want to say
24:04that I don't know
24:05in 2028
24:06who does not use
24:06artificial intelligence
24:07It's going to be
24:08at home
24:08He was left out
24:09But there will be
24:11a difference
24:13significant
24:13between productivity
24:15and the
24:19how do you say?
24:24the attractive
24:25which can be
24:26the profile
24:26of a person
24:27that I have learned
24:28to use
24:29artificial intelligence
24:29in front of a person
24:31no
24:34so
24:34a person
24:35who wants
24:35start now
24:36today
24:36It has the advantage
24:37that
24:38I mean
24:38a person
24:39that still
24:39has not yet begun
24:40It has the advantage
24:40that today
24:41It's even easier
24:42of what it was
24:42two years ago
24:43because the models
24:44have advanced
24:45and they do many
24:46more things
24:47about what was happening
24:48four years ago
24:48Yeah
24:49and they are smarter
24:50so
24:51They do things
24:52best
24:52about what was happening
24:53four years ago
24:56but
24:56for the same reason
24:58who
24:59not be
25:00starting today
25:01and wait
25:01two more years
25:02I mean
25:03There's going to be a gap
25:04of
25:05a gap
25:06a gap
25:07skill
25:07of the person
25:08that didn't start
25:09in front of the person
25:10that he did
25:10And it's going to be there.
25:11the only problem
25:12I mean
25:12in fact
25:13I am not a supporter
25:15of those who believe
25:16that's coming
25:17the apocalypse
25:18of jobs
25:20I mean
25:21I'm not that negative person.
25:22that artificial intelligence
25:23it's going to end
25:23many operating companies
25:24I don't
25:25I don't think so
25:25necessarily that
25:26I mean
25:27it's going to end
25:27some jobs
25:28operations
25:29Yeah
25:29but as already
25:30has happened
25:30in the past
25:31when he arrived
25:31the industrial revolution
25:33the Internet
25:36they are cycles
25:37in the end
25:38what will happen
25:40maybe
25:40And that's going to be it.
25:41the difference
25:42facing the past
25:43the thing is
25:44in a short time
25:46many companies
25:48They're going to have
25:50that redesign
25:51their organizations
25:53based
25:55in the incorporation
25:57of artificial intelligence
25:57so
25:58positions that historically
25:59were done
26:00jobs that historically
26:01were done
26:01in a certain way
26:02and that required
26:04certain skills
26:05They're going to stay
26:07obsolete
26:07and they're going to need
26:09an update
26:10and in that update
26:13some people
26:14They will achieve
26:15update
26:16and others not
26:17understood
26:17but then
26:18I want to tell you
26:19Give us an example
26:20because ultimately
26:21you are moving
26:22with reports
26:24with examples
26:24also in the book
26:25and well
26:26in the end
26:27He wrote the book
26:27someone
26:28He recommended it to him
26:29in a cafe
26:30and it ended
26:30making the book
26:31who has it around here
26:32me too
26:32I already have it in my hands
26:33and I read it
26:34for the preview
26:35from this interview
26:35Andrés Paramo
26:36your editor
26:37He contacted me
26:38things of life
26:40I did not know
26:40that you had the book
26:41and I tell him
26:41Listen
26:42if fair
26:42I'm going to have an interview
26:43with the
26:43next week
26:44and he told me
26:44I'm sending you the book now.
26:46a book
26:47which I believe
26:47I recommend
26:48for people
26:48that not only
26:49those of us who are
26:50over 40 years old
26:51but those who truly
26:52they want to enter
26:52a little bit of the world
26:53of artificial intelligence
26:54without needing to know
26:55technical terms
26:56And that's because
26:57Giovanni
26:58one
26:59ask for examples
27:01surely
27:01That's what happened to him.
27:02in consulting
27:03in the classes
27:04which already offers
27:05in the talks
27:06with executives
27:07and it is
27:08Give us examples
27:09of good use
27:10artificial intelligence
27:10above all
27:12because
27:12people
27:13sometimes it stays
27:13in a question
27:13very basic
27:14And that question
27:15He can be followed
27:15doing Google
27:16although it doesn't give us
27:17the answer
27:17Well
27:18If she doesn't give it today
27:18But Google
27:19traditional
27:20no longer delivers
27:21links
27:21well Gemini
27:22It's already an animal
27:24production
27:25information
27:25Give us examples
27:26concrete
27:27of good use
27:28artificial intelligence
27:28from their experience
27:29artificial intelligence
27:30today you can use
27:31for everything
27:32I actually
27:33I personally
27:34nowadays
27:35everything I do
27:35for work
27:36I do it
27:36with artificial intelligence
27:37For example
27:38so
27:40my business venture
27:41I
27:42from
27:45I don't know
27:46I have a meeting
27:48with a potential client
27:49use
27:51I record the meeting
27:52with the tools
27:54that are used today
27:55for taking notes
27:58automatically
27:59when I finish
28:00when the meeting ended
28:01those notes
28:02I pull them
28:04with Claude
28:05to Claude
28:07I ask Claude
28:08basically
28:08I'm starting to work on them
28:10with Claude
28:10to take out
28:11I don't know
28:12key insights
28:13the data
28:14Executive summary
28:15summary
28:16the next steps
28:17and
28:18always Claude
28:20I connect it
28:21I don't know
28:21to another tool
28:22to create presentations
28:23which can be
28:24Canva
28:25or Gamma
28:26and in 5 minutes
28:28since it ended
28:29the meeting
28:30with the potential client
28:31I can have
28:31the business proposal
28:32because also
28:34Claude
28:34It already has
28:35and knows
28:36and know
28:36the way I work
28:38check out my pricing
28:38because my pricing
28:40I created it with Claude
28:41in conversations with Claude
28:42talking with
28:43artificial intelligence
28:45I created
28:46a skill
28:47by Claude
28:47that serves
28:49for
28:50determine
28:51pricing
28:51of the offers
28:52depending on the client
28:54depending on the
28:55situation
28:55It's good.
28:56that before
28:56It was required
28:57an intelligence team
28:58markets
28:58in order to do that
29:00and conduct a study
29:01of everything that was happening
29:02outside
29:02and I also created
29:03a skill
29:04that
29:05does
29:06that Claude
29:07review
29:07their own proposal
29:08but from the perspective
29:09from the client
29:11so that then
29:12before sending
29:13to the customer
29:15I'll pass it on too
29:16through a critical filter
29:19where I tell you
29:20to Claude
29:20Okay, now
29:21yourself
29:21that you created
29:22the proposal
29:23now
29:24Tell me why
29:25a client
29:26I would say no
29:27clear
29:29and with that
29:30and then I have
29:31I don't know
29:31a dashboard
29:32automated
29:33No way.
29:35is connected
29:36with my email
29:37with my calendar
29:37with my CRM
29:40and automatically
29:41is updated
29:41every time
29:42that I have
29:42a conversation
29:43by mail
29:43with a client
29:44about a proposal
29:47and every day
29:48at 7 in the morning
29:49send me a summary
29:50of
29:51I don't know
29:51hey
29:52They've already passed
29:527 days
29:53since you sent
29:54the proposal
29:55to the client such
29:56It's time to play
29:57the door
29:58so
29:59I mean
30:00I
30:00nowadays
30:01I'm not saying
30:02that he does everything right
30:02because also
30:03I mean
30:04the truth
30:05There is also a lot of confusion.
30:06One keeps learning
30:09It's a way
30:11of working
30:11that requires
30:12a capacity
30:13to structure
30:14things
30:15that to me
30:16sometimes
30:17I find it difficult
30:18and then
30:19ends up being
30:20sometimes a little
30:21scattered
30:21etc
30:21but
30:23the truth
30:23I mean
30:24me today
30:25Yeah
30:25I'm still working
30:26only
30:28in the past
30:29would have needed
30:30I don't know
30:31three people
30:32in order to do
30:32the work I'm doing
30:33because also
30:34all content
30:36of the presentations
30:37that I deliver
30:38of the courses
30:39the training
30:40I don't know
30:41recently
30:43I finished dictating
30:44a course
30:44with the University
30:45of La Sabana
30:46which went very well for me
30:48in the sense
30:48that the feedback
30:49that happened
30:50the students
30:51It was very good.
30:52fortunately
30:52of all students
30:54But it's an idea.
30:56that I've been working
30:57I alone
30:57with Claude
30:58for a year now
31:00back and forth
31:00and so it goes
31:01refining the content
31:03and
31:04one more time
31:05in the past
31:06I would have
31:08had
31:09needy
31:09other type
31:10of resources
31:11and
31:11so
31:12nowadays
31:13really
31:13one can become
31:15a
31:16a one man band
31:17if they want
31:18it's true
31:19Giovanni
31:19I could hear him.
31:20to many people
31:21let's say
31:21who is very involved
31:22in the technological arena
31:23producing technology
31:24above all
31:25that is to say
31:26not adopting the technology
31:27from outside
31:27but producing
31:28technology
31:29here in Colombia
31:30It's true
31:31what they say
31:32that a person
31:33judicious
31:34in a weekend
31:35sitting down with good
31:36intelligence tools
31:37artificial
31:38can create a startup
31:39in a weekend
31:40and be on Monday
31:41probably monetizing
31:44because
31:45if you sell
31:46For example
31:47a service
31:48or you have a product
31:49ready to sell
31:50or even have
31:51a digital product
31:52nowadays
31:53a website
31:54you believe it
31:55in five minutes
31:56one more time
31:58You can do it
31:58if you use
32:00Cloud
32:00and you connect it
32:01with
32:01Lovable
32:04literally
32:05prompting
32:05or using
32:07Lovable
32:07directly
32:08without Cloud
32:09just prompting
32:10and writing
32:13You can create
32:14a page
32:15You can connect it
32:17in fact
32:17when I start
32:19to do
32:20the in-person workshops
32:22I had nothing
32:23for sale
32:24the in-person workshop
32:25But I wanted to do it
32:26on-line
32:26then I said
32:27Okay, I'm going to use
32:28as a sales channel
32:29LinkedIn
32:30as it is growing
32:31the
32:32It is the commercial showcase
32:33It is the commercial showcase
32:35I need a page
32:37I need a link
32:38paid
32:41nothing else
32:41Okay, and the bill.
32:42and the account
32:43the check
32:44I'm going to use it
32:45so
32:47the page
32:48I messed up
32:49with Lovable
32:50I enter Lovable
32:52I'm looking for a page
32:53on the internet
32:54that I like
32:55that sells
32:55a similar service
32:56I tell him
32:58copy this page
32:59and then
32:59we're editing it
33:00with the colors
33:01that I like
33:01me
33:02the background
33:02that I like
33:02me
33:03etc
33:03but
33:03that process
33:04hard
33:05I don't know
33:0510 minutes
33:06the link
33:07paid
33:08I put
33:08to study
33:10tools
33:10to do it
33:12and
33:12in principle
33:14I did it
33:14with Mercado Pago
33:15Mercado Pago
33:15the setup
33:16from Mercado Pago
33:16It takes 4 minutes
33:18if it's insert
33:19a code
33:19I mean
33:20insert a URL
33:21let's say
33:21that they give to one
33:22and that's it
33:22literal
33:23I connected it
33:24my bank account
33:26of all time
33:30And that's it.
33:33and then
33:33It's a question
33:34to begin
33:34to post
33:35and so
33:36achieve
33:36write
33:37in a way
33:37that people
33:39you are interested
33:39and then
33:40the post
33:40gain visibility
33:41There it is
33:42the only difficult thing
33:43of all this
33:44is
33:46write
33:46in a way
33:47that hooks
33:48and achieve
33:48that the post
33:49have more reach
33:50in that too
33:51I have asked him for help
33:51to AI
33:53so that the post
33:54be more attractive
33:55in fact
33:56the publication
33:57on social media
33:58in fact
33:59me last year
34:00when I started
34:00to write
34:01on LinkedIn
34:01every day
34:02because when I
34:03I'm leaving Google
34:04when they tell me
34:05the Google thing
34:05one of the first
34:07goals
34:07that I gave myself
34:08was
34:08I'm going to start
34:09to post
34:09on LinkedIn
34:09every day
34:10I mean
34:10That was
34:11when they are
34:12saying
34:12It leaves Google
34:13I already had it
34:14in his head
34:14Yeah
34:15because I said
34:16I'm going to take advantage
34:18that
34:18I'm going to take advantage
34:21LinkedIn
34:21and the
34:22made
34:23that already has
34:24a base
34:24at that moment
34:25I had 20,000
34:26followers
34:26I'm going to use that
34:28as a basis
34:28for a start
34:29to build
34:29something bigger
34:32but it is needed
34:33post
34:34every day
34:35I need to develop
34:36discipline
34:36to post
34:37every day
34:40that
34:40I started doing it
34:41but
34:42There was a moment
34:44where
34:44I jumped
34:46level
34:46of followers
34:48which was
34:49in September
34:49from last year
34:50which was
34:51in July
34:52from last year
34:52when I started
34:53also
34:53to use
34:54a tool
34:55particular
34:55then
34:56It was called
34:57Stanley
34:57and it was a tool
34:58that serves
34:59to write
34:59LinkedIn post
35:00with intelligence
35:01artificial
35:02I don't know
35:03if it was
35:03because
35:04I grabbed him
35:05the shot
35:06to the form
35:06to write
35:07because I started
35:08bet
35:09more things
35:09interesting
35:10or because
35:10also
35:10I started
35:11to use
35:11that tool
35:13or the frequency
35:14publication
35:14also
35:15also
35:15the periodicity
35:17But I know
35:17that between
35:19July
35:19and October
35:20from last year
35:22happens
35:22of 25,000
35:2345,000
35:25wow
35:25And that was it.
35:26That's where
35:27It really started
35:28growth
35:28almost 100%
35:30And that changed
35:31all
35:31And that changed
35:32all
35:32because it started
35:33to activate
35:33a circle
35:34so
35:34many people
35:35he started to see me
35:36Let's see my content
35:37I used to post
35:39many things
35:39of education
35:40intelligence
35:40artificial
35:41so
35:41many people
35:42it began
35:42to relate
35:44with content
35:44intelligence
35:45artificial
35:45and then
35:46suddenly
35:47in relatively
35:49a few months
35:49he started to get to know me
35:51many more people
35:52by
35:53my disclosure
35:55intelligence
35:56artificial
35:56of what
35:57They knew me
35:58before
35:58being the head
36:00from Google
36:00in Colombia
36:01for many years
36:02so let's say
36:02that achieved
36:03to break free a little
36:04of the surname
36:05Yeah
36:05of the former surname
36:06That's where I started
36:07That's where I started
36:08to develop
36:09my last name
36:10let's say
36:10Wake
36:12Wake
36:13after
36:14obviously
36:16there is
36:16I mean
36:17That's one thing
36:18which cost me
36:19also
36:19because
36:21still
36:22many people
36:23says
36:23Joan Estela
36:24former director
36:25from Google
36:26so
36:26I initially
36:28fought
36:28with that idea
36:29because it said
36:31no but
36:32I want
36:33that people
36:34say
36:35Joan Estela
36:35Period.
36:36after
36:37that he reads
36:38Well
36:38if I am
36:39former Google employee
36:40OK
36:40but
36:41How do I do it?
36:42to get away
36:42unclear
36:43so
36:44but at a certain point
36:45said
36:46neither
36:46because in the end
36:48well
36:48the ones from Google
36:50likewise
36:51I earned it
36:52It was real
36:52It was real
36:53And it was spectacular.
36:54And that's great.
36:56that one says
36:57who is the ex
37:01is giving
37:02of me
37:02Is everything all right
37:04And let's be honest
37:05This is a space
37:05entrepreneurship
37:06and leadership
37:06and finally
37:07that becomes
37:08in money
37:08in silver
37:09which is what
37:10one needs
37:11ultimately
37:11living
37:12Well
37:12It's time
37:13of the pitch
37:14which are questions
37:15out of the box
37:16trying to find
37:17answers
37:17out of the box
37:18then here
37:19Let's go
37:20the pitch
37:25Okay Giovanni
37:26if AI
37:27could do
37:28a clone
37:28from you
37:29and work
37:3024-7
37:31and you would get paid
37:33per hour
37:34of that clone
37:35Would I use that money?
37:36to rest more
37:38or to work
37:39even more
37:39And why?
37:41in fact
37:41I'm thinking
37:42in that
37:42these days
37:44And I think that
37:45end now
37:46working more
37:47simply
37:47I mean
37:48the thing is
37:48I see it
37:49nowadays
37:50I see
37:51and in fact
37:52I want to do it
37:52I mean
37:53create a twin
37:54digital
37:55guy
37:55avatar
37:58for example
37:59can record
38:00certain courses
38:01for me
38:03but it wouldn't be
38:04I mean
38:05if on one hand
38:07It would take me away
38:08have something to do
38:09me directly
38:11but on the other hand
38:12would mean
38:13that I would be
38:13doing something else
38:14equally work
38:15then in the end
38:16that's something
38:17that I feel
38:18What's happening to him?
38:19to many people
38:19I mean
38:21the story
38:22that intelligence
38:23artificial
38:24life makes you
38:25easier
38:25Yeah
38:26but one
38:27does not work
38:28less
38:28I mean
38:28all those who are
38:30using a lot of intelligence
38:31artificial
38:31They're exhausted
38:32work
38:32because also
38:33these agents
38:35intelligence
38:36artificial
38:36what they do
38:37is
38:39compress
38:40times that before
38:41They were much longer
38:42so
38:43I don't know
38:44the example
38:45to put together a presentation
38:46if before
38:47I was putting together a presentation
38:48you were taking your time
38:48four hours
38:50because between
38:51the text
38:52the format
38:52the font
38:53the image
38:54the design
38:54talk
38:55line
38:56with a person
38:57what has to happen
38:58the content
38:58in the end
38:59It was a process
39:00very long
39:00nowadays
39:01a guide
39:02He does it for you
39:03in five minutes
39:06after
39:08you at that same time
39:09than before
39:10would have taken
39:11give a presentation
39:11You can do 20
39:12and then
39:13You have to do
39:14follow-up
39:15at 8 pm
39:15And it's always you.
39:16the same person
39:17so
39:18the real problem
39:19that is beginning
39:20to generate
39:20It's wear and tear.
39:21cognitive
39:22to jump
39:23between tasks
39:23all the time
39:26which is one thing
39:27that
39:28in fact
39:29I think that
39:29It's still being discussed
39:30bit
39:30but it's going to explode
39:31and we will have to measure
39:32I agree
39:33But you have to be there.
39:33pending that
39:34you have said
39:35than gray hair
39:36are an advantage
39:37if tomorrow
39:38disappeared
39:39all his experience
39:40executive
39:40and could only
39:41keep
39:42a habit
39:42from those years
39:43on Google
39:44which would I choose
39:45and why
39:46that one and no other
39:47one thing
39:48that I
39:50would maintain
39:51I would be
39:54well in the end
39:55which
39:57which
39:58I say it all the time
39:59that
40:00what is
40:01the differentiator
40:02what is
40:03the criterion
40:03so
40:03the capacity
40:05in the world
40:06corporate
40:06for me
40:07criterion
40:07is
40:08so that you go
40:09good
40:09in the world
40:10corporate
40:10you have
40:11that have
40:11the capacity
40:14to make shine
40:15to your boss
40:16and solve
40:16issues
40:22you have
40:23to do
40:23that people
40:24be happy
40:25in the world
40:25corporate
40:26also
40:26as an entrepreneur
40:27in the end
40:28and so?
40:29requires
40:30criterion
40:30is the ability
40:31to see
40:31situations
40:34so
40:35I would say
40:35I would say
40:36Yeah
40:37I would say that
40:38Giovanni
40:39put
40:40in mode
40:40sincere
40:41which
40:42the lie
40:43bigger
40:43that is said
40:44people
40:44elderly
40:4440 years old
40:45about the
40:46AI
40:46so as not to have
40:47that learn it
40:48and how
40:49I would take it apart
40:50without hurting them
40:52There are many
40:53what they say
40:54No
40:55I
40:56I tried to use
40:57and it didn't work for me
40:58not at all
40:58or it gave me
41:00it was invented
41:01a response
41:01or he told me
41:02one thing
41:02which has nothing to do with it
41:06always as
41:07to treat
41:08decrease
41:08a bit
41:09the impact
41:10that it may have
41:11and there
41:12the problem
41:12the problem
41:13real
41:13of those situations
41:14also
41:14of hallucinations
41:15the thing is
41:16the prompt
41:16It's wrong.
41:17written
41:19so
41:20technology
41:21per se
41:22is really
41:23good
41:24if one
41:25He uses it badly
41:26It's because
41:27It needs to improve
41:28in the form
41:29of using it
41:29so
41:30for me
41:31there
41:31what I say
41:33to everyone
41:35all the time
41:35is
41:38expose yourselves
41:38stop
41:39stop thinking
41:40that
41:41that one
41:42does things
41:43better
41:44that
41:44that intelligence
41:45artificial
41:46and
41:47also
41:47on the other side
41:48leave
41:49leave
41:49going ego
41:51to say
41:52Ah, but then
41:53if he does better
41:54What am I going to do?
41:55Because that's not how it is.
41:56I mean
41:56He's going to do better
41:57Yeah
41:58Accept it
41:59and take advantage of it
42:00clear
42:00to have the best
42:02possible assistant
42:03even better
42:03that oneself
42:04exactly
42:04Well
42:05Giovanni
42:06if in 10 years
42:07and with gray hair
42:10all that
42:11that has set up
42:12you
42:13be remembered
42:14like a book
42:16a community
42:17or a movement
42:19Listen carefully
42:20a book
42:20a community
42:21or a movement
42:23which of the three
42:24It would scare him more.
42:26And who is more proud?
42:27and why
42:37more pride
42:39probably
42:41a community
42:45more fear
42:47motion
42:47because movement
42:50I associate it
42:51to something negative
42:53I mean
42:54it comes to mind
42:56political movement
42:57and all
42:57those that do not necessarily
42:58are positive
43:00He doesn't come to tell me
43:00positive
43:02community
43:03I think it's prettier.
43:04And that's what I'm doing
43:05trying
43:06Create now
43:08and if the trigger
43:09of all that
43:10would have been
43:10the book
43:11the book
43:11the truth
43:11It's one thing
43:12that gives me
43:12very proud
43:13staff
43:13great satisfaction
43:16but obviously
43:17then one
43:18I mean
43:18like everything else
43:20I danced it now
43:21And now I am
43:22a little scared
43:24to say
43:24Could it be that nobody cares about it?
43:26Could it be that
43:26we're going to have
43:27that burn
43:28the copies?
43:30Will someone
43:31He's going to tell me
43:31excellent?
43:33So I'm a little
43:34keeping an eye on that
43:34but surely
43:36It has been a great satisfaction
43:37to reach the moment
43:38to be able to publish it
43:40interesting
43:41And this is the last one
43:42ask
43:42for this space
43:44out-of-the-box
43:45looking for answers
43:46out of the box
43:47Giovanni
43:48How is your mental health?
43:51awesome!
43:51the question
43:52It's so good
43:53I believe
43:56how are you
43:58Well, in general
43:59good
43:59on the one hand
44:00in the sense
44:00that I feel
44:01more alive
44:01and more
44:03asset
44:03that never
44:04what is
44:05One of the best
44:06What happened to me?
44:06since it came out
44:07from Google
44:08because I feel
44:08that in that
44:09Yes, I'm back.
44:10to reactivate
44:10a lot
44:11the world was shaken
44:12the floor moved
44:13the floor moved
44:14And that revived me.
44:15a lot at the level
44:15on a mental level
44:17And it's fantastic.
44:19I also think
44:20on the other hand
44:21that a little
44:21I'm
44:25I'm a little
44:29about
44:30stimulated
44:31and tired
44:32in the sense
44:33that
44:33with everything that has happened
44:35with Google
44:36etc.
44:36In fact
44:37I've never taken
44:38a break
44:39really
44:39There wasn't a moment
44:40in which I have said
44:42I don't know
44:42disconnection
44:43disappear
44:44the next
44:44three months
44:45and think
44:46I mean
44:48everything has been
44:48a doing
44:50do
44:50do
44:50do
44:51do
44:52maybe
44:53that thing
44:54It has also been
44:54part of the relationship
44:55of the relationship
44:56a little reckless
44:57a bit
44:59emotional
45:00No?
45:00to the situation
45:04so
45:04Yes, I feel
45:05that I am
45:05a little tired
45:07but also
45:08on the other hand
45:09I feel like it's a moment
45:10I mean
45:11that this is the moment
45:12to do
45:13now is not the time
45:14for
45:15rest
45:15to rest
45:16Yes, because
45:17are happening
45:18so many things
45:20that
45:20There is so much
45:21to do
45:22that
45:24That's for sure.
45:25really
45:25I get up
45:26the morning
45:26saying
45:27wow
45:27I mean
45:29the only problem
45:30is
45:30which is a problem
45:32a bit
45:32of AI
45:33in general
45:33which gives you the possibility
45:34of doing more and more
45:37and it never arrives
45:38one moment
45:38that
45:40turn off
45:40the button
45:42and with this
45:42We're closed
45:43We're back to the course
45:44from the interview
45:44but we also closed
45:45Okay Giovanni
45:46Tell us about your book
45:47all the time
45:48It has been my questions
45:49trying to interpret
45:50what you say
45:51in his book
45:52But talk to the people
45:53from his book
45:55probably
45:56He's going to stay
45:56obsolete quickly
45:58That's what I think
45:59when I hear him
46:00many experts
46:01technology
46:01that they manage to give
46:02chair to one
46:03and they speak to one
46:04of things that one knows
46:04that happened
46:05three, two years
46:06And that's old news.
46:07in the technological world
46:08then let's take advantage
46:10the situation
46:10And tell us about your book.
46:13I do believe it's key
46:14that the same author
46:15present your son
46:17because one always
46:18He does it with pride.
46:19That's what happened to me
46:20when I talk to authors
46:21of books
46:21And tell us
46:22about his book
46:23and seize the opportunity
46:24Well, to tell him
46:26to the people
46:26Well, then he should buy it.
46:27and let him read it
46:27What is it about?
46:28in his terms
46:30and with his interpretation
46:31because the book is born
46:33of all the experience
46:34of what happened
46:35last year
46:36with Google
46:38the idea
46:39from the book
46:40is
46:41help people
46:43above all
46:44professionals
46:45as we said before
46:46over 40 years old
46:47to understand
46:48that artificial intelligence
46:49It's not just
46:50for younger people
46:51which obviously
46:52have
46:53That doesn't mean
46:54does not mean
46:55nothing bad
46:55against
46:56or against
46:57of people
46:5825 years old
46:59that they can do
47:01wonderful things
47:01and they are doing
47:02wonderful things
47:03in artificial intelligence
47:04but it's simply
47:06to say
47:08to invite
47:09to people
47:10perhaps from
47:1040, 50, 60 years
47:13that they feel
47:13that AI
47:15It's not for them
47:16which it is
47:17because?
47:18because
47:18one fundamental thing
47:20to really get
47:21progression of artificial intelligence
47:22that is the criterion
47:23the criterion
47:24is the ability
47:24of asking the questions
47:25correct
47:26to analyze
47:28and
47:30orchestrate
47:31the work
47:32from different agents
47:33the way to do that
47:34it is through
47:34from the experience
47:35of criteria
47:35a person
47:3650 years old
47:37can read a room
47:38in a matter of seconds
47:39can know
47:40when a person
47:41He's lying
47:42has the experience
47:43to know
47:43what are the things
47:45that are useless
47:45or they don't work
47:46in a given context
47:48and therefore
47:48has the ability
47:49of
47:51setup
47:52of a problem
47:53or of a question
47:54in the right way
47:56with artificial intelligence
47:57and often
47:58people
47:58younger
47:59They don't have that capacity
48:00so
48:01It's an invitation
48:03in the end
48:03to lose the fear
48:05and it's a guide
48:07to learn
48:08to use artificial intelligence
48:10having lost the means
48:11and using the experience
48:12like a trigger
48:13well then
48:14Here it is
48:14artificial intelligence
48:16with gray hair
48:17the author
48:17former Google
48:18I know it's difficult.
48:20one thinks about that
48:21no
48:21But I do believe
48:22which is valuable
48:23so that people know
48:24that you were
48:25almost two decades
48:26on Google
48:26and that gives him
48:27I think that
48:28immense value
48:29Well, here I was
48:29in this space
48:31entrepreneurship
48:31and leadership
48:32Giovanni
48:32Thank you for sharing.
48:34your experience
48:36How are you seeing things?
48:37and write a book
48:38for those of us who have
48:39more than 40 years
48:40also
48:40Well, there it is.
48:41You already know that this information
48:42it is saved
48:43across the entire platform
48:43digital viewer
48:45It also reproduces
48:46for our subscribers
48:48in text
48:48for the entire community
48:50open on YouTube
48:51and we also have
48:52a space
48:53for those who
48:54They listen to her
48:55probably running
48:56because I know you're a runner
48:57And I'm a runner too.
48:59people who go running
49:00Listening to podcasts
49:01of this type
49:02see you
49:03in the next
49:04and see you soon
49:05Thank you!
49:08Thank you!
49:14Thank you!
49:16Thanks for watching the video.
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