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00:00Tampa, who a lot of people think is still going to compete, and I don't see how, Baker Mayfield shows
00:06up at camp today, and he's basically in front of the microphone ripping the organization going, you know, the time
00:14for negotiations is over, they disrespected me, you can't tell, you can't have a franchise quarterback in a building, tell
00:22everyone, and then wait for this to drag out.
00:26So, I don't see how that is going to get any better unless they pay them, and it doesn't feel
00:34like, Tampa feels like they're in this one-year moratorium where they're just, whatever they have, they have, you know,
00:41Vita Vea comes out last week and says, get me out of here, you got your quarterback going, get me
00:47out of here, they're not, it feels like, you want to talk about a lame duck, and I love Todd
00:52Bowles, but it just looks like Tampa is more than happy not to win.
00:56to invest in any of these, right?
00:58Agreed, and you know, we may see this a little differently on Baker Mayfield, so I don't think that Baker
01:03Mayfield is going to put, you know, have a bust in Canton, that I don't think, but I think because
01:11the state of quarterbacking, Joe, is so bad in the NFL, I think the Bucs absolutely should be paying Baker
01:18Mayfield, because what are you going to do without this guy?
01:21Like, if you said, okay, is Baker Mayfield the top five quarterback? Of course not. Is he top 10? But
01:32then you're right there, and there are 30 teams in the NFL, and he is an upper third guy in
01:37the league, an upper third guy, Joe, make $40 million a season.
01:41The Dolphins paid $40 million, you know? So, they have no choice. You are not going to find a better
01:49guy in the draft via trade. It is not going to happen. He's an upper echelon quarterback in the National
01:57Football League, and I don't blame him. He's played like it.
02:01Did he regress in the second half of last season? Joe, of course he did. He was, I think, if
02:06I'm not mistaken, on the betting sites in April and Matt's Baseball, in September and October, he was the favorite
02:12to win the MVP for a while, and then the wheels fell off a little bit.
02:17To your point, I think on the betting sites, the number one coach to be fired starting the season, I
02:23don't know if it's Todd Bowles, but he's going to be in that conversation. You're 100% right. He is
02:28right there.
02:29It feels like the Bucs are in sort of this, let's feel things out season.
02:35Wait and see.
02:36Wait and see until at the end of the season, they end up going 7-10, something like that, and
02:43then they, let's call it crazy. Let's get crazy.
02:47Then they rehire John Gruden to be the head coach again, something like that. It feels like that's the direction
02:52we're headed here.
02:53Yeah, they're going to bring Tony Dungey back and see what happens here.
02:56Doesn't it feel like they could do something like that, though? It feels to me like they would do something
03:00like that.
03:01So let me add from that perspective, because I get it from Baker's point of view, right?
03:06He signs a couple of years ago, a three-year deal. He's in the final year of that deal, right?
03:13In his time there with the Bucs, he's 27-24, right?
03:18He did lead them to the playoffs, right?
03:21And the NFC South champion, and 23-24, right?
03:25So two seasons, he was a pro bowler, I get it.
03:29Averaging about the contract that he's gotten, about 33 and a third million,
03:35which, I'm going to give you some names, it's 16th among active quarterbacks right now.
03:41Now, it's a little below, but he's in the same category as Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold.
03:49Is he that much better than those guys?
03:53I think he's better than those guys.
03:55Yes, I do.
03:56Okay, so there you go.
03:57Well, in my opinion, I'll give you another example.
03:59If I told you, you could only have one or two guys, and you could have Baker Mayfield or Trevor
04:06Lawrence,
04:07who would it be?
04:11It's close.
04:12You may be able to say Lawrence, but close.
04:14I'd rather have Craig Mish.
04:16No, you would not.
04:17I'd be on my back.
04:18No, I'd be able to go.
04:20You may take Lawrence.
04:21You may take Lawrence, but it's kind of close.
04:24Right, but it's kind of close.
04:25And look at how much money Trevor Lawrence is getting paid.
04:27Baker Mayfield deserves it.
04:30Baker Mayfield should be a paid top 10 quarterback in the NFL.
04:35Is he?
04:36Three years ago, he was backing up.
04:38He was the third stringer on the Rams.
04:41In the Rams.
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