00:00James Harden was on with ESPN.
00:02He does some parenting himself.
00:03I was going to say, I wasn't comfortable with the connotation.
00:07You're telling me, James Harden, that's where you're not comfortable with the connotation?
00:10That's where you're not comfortable with the connotation?
00:13Think about what just happened last segment, and that's where you draw the line, though.
00:17Charles, this one is whining.
00:18Can you get him something to drink, or I don't know, just get him out of here?
00:22Imagine if you're worth like $400 million the way he is.
00:24He probably has gotten all pair or like $12.
00:27Yeah?
00:27I would think so.
00:28Yeah, I would think so.
00:30I would agree, but he still probably does a lot of parenting there.
00:33But James Harden was on ESPN Brazil and talked about the plan with the Cavs and LeBron.
00:40Can we imagine a power trail?
00:42Me show you and LeBron next season.
00:45That's the goal.
00:46That's the plan.
00:47You know, hopefully we'll see it in the next few days.
00:49All right.
00:50Many people are taking that as in James Harden just spilled the beans.
00:55Well, he was smiling the entire time, too, with it.
00:57There's some missing context, I think, within the audio.
00:58Because he said the plan.
01:00That's the plan.
01:01I don't know.
01:01Listen, I don't know.
01:02Who are these many people that are taking it this way?
01:04The internets.
01:05Okay, the internets.
01:06Yeah, the internets.
01:06At least one of James Harden's servants.
01:09I mean, the sad part about this, LeBron, and this is the part that kind of sucks, is that
01:14all the speculative fun things that typically happen with all this stuff just gets pierced
01:19like you're piercing a balloon and just, that's it.
01:22You can't do it.
01:23Because we all know it leads back to nothing.
01:25Because if LeBron doesn't know or Rich Paul doesn't know or they're not telling anybody,
01:28then why would James Harden know?
01:29So to kind of mold these two things together, we're in a spot where I don't believe that
01:35LeBron doesn't know what he's going to do.
01:38And I don't believe that LeBron hasn't communicated that information, at least to some folks.
01:46However, given the awkwardness of every answer by whether it's James Harden or Steph or Draymond,
01:54like given how just nobody can kind of talk about this like a normal human being,
01:57it either means everyone knows and everybody's just really struggling to keep the secret
02:03or no one knows and they're trying to play coy like they do know for clout or some other reason.
02:10It's almost like LeBron is like testing all of his friends to be like,
02:12which one of you guys are going to spill the beans?
02:14It would be James Harden.
02:15And if you spill the beans, you're out.
02:18I'm never talking to you again and that's that.
02:20It's like Taylor Swift had those wedding invites and each wedding invite was labeled different things
02:26and different parts so they knew who actually leaked the wedding invites to the paparazzi when the time came.
02:32Kind of feels like maybe one of those games is happening.
02:34Is that what you're suggesting?
02:35Maybe not to that level of insanity.
02:37Well, I don't know.
02:38You're right to point out that every person that gets asked about this seems very squirrely
02:42and seems very, they can't answer questions correctly or they can't seem like normal humans
02:47when asked about LeBron James destination.
02:49Okay.
02:50This could be just, they don't know what the information is.
02:53And NBA players amongst all players, all players like to talk about what they know off the record.
02:59And that's how, that's how eventually media members and how we get all fed different things.
03:07NBA players love that bleep more than anything.
03:09They do love that.
03:10Like the NBA media loves their information as much as anything and love to flaunt it.
03:15That's because NBA players like to do it.
03:17Who in life doesn't like to, I know something you don't know.
03:19So let me, let me, let me tell you what that is.
03:21I'm very cool about it.
03:22I don't let the people know.
03:23Are you?
03:24I know a lot of things.
03:27You just like to keep it, you know, by yourself.
03:29For instance, I know where LeBron's going, but I'm just not going to tell it.
03:33Is that right?
03:33Yep.
03:34You just got eyeball emojis over there.
03:36I don't want to lose the trust of LeBron and Rich and Mav.
03:40He's testing you.
03:42Weemsy.
03:42That's what I call it.
03:43They want to know if when he, when he comes back, if you can be part of that foursome
03:47that they have, they're, they're golfing foursome.
03:49Yep.
03:51Whether or not my brain doesn't go there the way yours does.
03:54No, I was just, you, I'm glad you clarified that.
03:56The assumption is a golfing foursome.
03:59I think, I think the assumption has to be.
04:01How do you think I got that information?
04:04Oh, weemsy.
04:06When I said pumping for information, I meant that bleep.
04:11Again, this goes back to your draw every line.
04:13What are we talking about?
04:14Yeah.
04:15But not that one about James.
04:16No.
04:17No.
04:18No.
04:20Hey, we're having fun.
04:21Hey, we're having fun.
04:23Literally, just us, we're having fun.
04:25Yes.
04:25That's about it.
04:26Everybody else probably thinks we're 12 and stupid.
04:28I'm having a great time.
04:30216-474-0092.
04:33Do you feel like James Harden just spilled the beans on a LeBron homecoming?
04:39I took it the way I took every other person.
04:43Making a comment about LeBron, he doesn't know, but he's hopeful.
04:47And he's kind of excited about the idea.
04:49What's our list of people that were, if it does come down and it's not the Cavs, who
04:53do we get to yell at the most?
04:55Not necessarily, and big picture, we'll talk about Kobe Altman and stuff like that.
04:59I'm talking about the people that have led us astray in this whole entire thing.
05:02Bill Simmons has to be somewhere close to the top.
05:04Yeah, but-
05:05Now this is two weeks in a row, Bill Simmons is like, it's going to be the Cavs.
05:07But should we think that Bill knows?
05:09No, we shouldn't.
05:10Bill's been one of LeBron haters.
05:11We shouldn't.
05:12And that's the part that I find interesting.
05:13Because even though we shouldn't know, and I'm telling everyone that I really do believe
05:18that it's Rich Paul and LeBron that know, and that's it.
05:21Nobody else knows, in my opinion.
05:23But there's going to be a list.
05:24There's going to be people that come out after this and get the tomatoes thrown at them digitally.
05:31All right.
05:31We did hear Patrick Beverley earlier today.
05:33We played audio of him being like, I'm hearing from somebody they don't really know, but I
05:37kind of know him.
05:37And he's been writing about other things.
05:38And it's going to happen today, Pat Bev would be probably bottom 30% of people that I would
05:44listen to about LeBron.
05:45I would probably put Bill Simmons in that bottom 30% because he's been the ultimate LeBron
05:51troll.
05:51I don't even know the people that are like, I don't even know the people that know people
05:55that know LeBron are allowed to associate with Bill, given the things he said about LeBron
06:00previously.
06:01Who's the person?
06:02But I mean, the Bill connection's easy though.
06:05You know, Rich Paul's got this podcast.
06:07The platform is The Ringer.
06:08Bill Simmons owns The Ringer.
06:09Yep.
06:10Fair.
06:10But LeBron's not going to let Rich say that to him.
06:14I mean, like, like Bill is technically Rich Paul's boss.
06:17I know Rich Paul doesn't have a boss, but like the through line does.
06:19He's got a more important boss.
06:20His name's LeBron.
06:21The through line does exist though.
06:23I don't think this is much of a Sophie's choice.
06:25Tell Bill or keep LeBron's confidence.
06:28I think he's going to keep LeBron's confidence.
06:30I'm not betting that Bill Simmons, no, that's not the bet.
06:32But the idea that you could see where people are like, oh, okay, there's, there's a connection
06:35there and that does exist.
06:36Who's the person that if you hear, hear them say it, or is there a person?
06:41Cause I don't, I'm, I'm struggling to think of someone.
06:43It's something we were talking about in the pre-show.
06:45Like who's that person that if they say it, you think instantly, okay, this is as good
06:49as gold.
06:49You take it to the bank.
06:51Maybe D Wade.
06:52It's not Kyrie.
06:54No one's telling Kyrie a darn thing.
06:56Oh, now that would be an interesting way to present it all.
06:58If he was going back to the heat, D Wade has some sort of association with it.
07:02Or if he's not going back to the heat.
07:04Well, that would just be mean, right?
07:06Well, no, but, but he, D Wade finds out and then it's like, yeah, I heard he's going to
07:09Cleveland.
07:10I don't know why he would come out and say it, but like, that's one of the rarefied
07:13guys that just likes to crap all over Miami basketball fans at this point.
07:17Cause he spent the last year telling everyone that the, the crowd suck and they're not really
07:22good at being fans outside of championship winners.
07:24I think, I think it's more, uh, spoil the return for Cleveland again, that would like
07:29if Dwayne Wade said, here's where I think LeBron is going, that would carry a lot of
07:34weight for me.
07:35Short of that.
07:37I don't really know.
07:38I don't think there's anybody but LeBron and Rich Paul.
07:40If I ran into Gloria at Acme and Akron, and there used to be one specific Acme she used
07:47to go to all the time.
07:48If I ever was at that Acme and I saw her and I was like, Mrs. James, where are we
07:53going?
07:53And she said, Nick, he's coming home.
07:56No, I said Rich Paul and LeBron.
07:57I think that's the only two that you can realistically say.
08:00Give me like a third name.
08:01I don't, I don't know that there is another one.
08:02This is why I could never be a, uh, like a, like the president.
08:06Cause I'd be like, Hey, uh, CIA, like find out for me.
08:09Where's LeBron going?
08:10Yeah.
08:10Find out for me.
08:11Let me know.
08:11Oh, you're telling me Obama didn't do some of that stuff.
08:13And then I would just tweet it out.
08:14No, he probably didn't be like, LeBron's going to Cleveland guys.
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