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'The Hawk' is now streaming, but before it hit Netflix the stars of the show sat down with our Audacy hosts at Pelican Hill Golf Club to talk about the making of the show and more.
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00:01One thing after watching this show that struck me was, I missed this, and I think that the public is
00:06going to feel the same way.
00:07What was it like, Molly, working with Will again?
00:10And did it ever occur to you how much nostalgia was there in terms of, man, we miss a classic
00:15Will Ferrell-Molly Shannon collab?
00:17Because that's what this show was all about for me.
00:18Thank you. I love that nostalgia.
00:20It just feels like Will and I have known one another for, we've been friends for 30 years.
00:26I met him. He was at the Groundlings and I was a waitress in L.A. at this place called
00:30Melrose Baking Company.
00:31And a mutual friend said, I really think you're going to really like this guy, Will Ferrell.
00:36So she brought him over to my restaurant and I waited on him and he ordered a scone.
00:40And we've been friends ever since.
00:42And it just feels like fun when you work with your friends.
00:45It doesn't even feel like work.
00:46You get excited to come to set.
00:49And Will knew my dad really well and I'm very close to Will's parents and Will's wife, Ivica, and we
00:54had kids at the same time.
00:55So we've just gone through all these changes and we're both so supportive of one another.
01:00And so it's just great.
01:02So I like that people respond to the nostalgia because what they're feeling is real.
01:08Right.
01:09Hi, Molly and Jimmy.
01:10Hi.
01:10How are you?
01:11Nice to meet you.
01:12Congrats on the Hawk.
01:12We loved it so much.
01:13Thank you so much.
01:15I'm Bennett from the new 96.5 in Philadelphia.
01:17Okay, great.
01:19Both of you had so many funny lines in this show.
01:21But Molly, your phone calls were so funny with Lonnie.
01:26Like, I'm in tears laughing with very descriptive what you're going to do to him, right?
01:31Yeah, yeah.
01:32How much was that written and how much was that ad-libbed?
01:34I need to know.
01:35That was all written.
01:36That was all written.
01:37Wow.
01:37By Will and his team of writers.
01:40Yes, no ad-libbing at all.
01:42As a matter of fact, that was really hard because I was like, God, I'm so mean.
01:46And so, no, it is all written and, yeah, and that's how Will approached me.
01:51He was like, he called me one day, hey, Molly, could you play my wife?
01:54I want you to just, you're just going to be really fed up with me and scream at me.
01:58And I was like, sure, yeah, I'm in.
01:59I didn't even look at a script.
02:00I just said yes over the phone.
02:02Yes.
02:02Sounds good.
02:03I'm there.
02:03The phone calls is usually a little hard, too, because you're usually not shooting it
02:08at the same time.
02:09Sure.
02:09So you can't really, like, just go back and forth and riff.
02:13You've got to, like, kind of match it to what the other person did the other day.
02:16Right.
02:17That's a good point.
02:17I was curious, who broke the most on set?
02:20Because how could you keep a straight face with all these one-liners throughout the cast?
02:23Who got to?
02:25Honestly, I feel like Will broke himself the most because he would go on these, like,
02:32crazy tangents, and then they would get so silly, and he would kind of, like, have moments
02:39where he's like, what am I saying right now?
02:41Like, I remember when he came in and, like, interrupted the engagement party.
02:44He was, like, going on, and he's like, ah.
02:48He's like, whoever invented the pigs in blanket, like, that guy or woman?
02:52We don't know.
02:54We don't know.
02:56And then he would just kind of, he would see people start to smile, and then it would kind
03:01of almost, like, break him.
03:03Yeah.
03:03Yeah, exactly.
03:05It's the same on SNL, too, exactly what Jimmy's saying.
03:08He played once, he would try to make all of us cast members laugh.
03:11Once he played a manager of a TGI Fridays in this sketch, and every time he would come
03:16and do it for the dressers, a live show, he would up it more, and he had, like, a handle,
03:21like, a mustache, and we could not stop laughing.
03:25He was trying to make us laugh, and then same thing.
03:28He would start laughing because he would make us laugh.
03:30Yeah, he'd make you laugh, and then he laughs as a result of that, so.
03:33Yeah.
03:33Yeah.
03:34But it's such a good feeling because it means you're really relaxed.
03:36If you're able to kind of laugh while you're performing, it means you're relaxed.
03:40Because if I was really nervous, I don't think I would start laughing, you know.
03:43And it means you have time, and you're not rushing to get through the day.
03:47Yeah.
03:47My name's Klein from K-Rock in Los Angeles.
03:50Pleasure to see you guys both.
03:51Great show.
03:51Big fan.
03:52That's why we're here.
03:53Obviously, the chemistry between, you know, you and Will goes back, as you said, many years.
03:57But this show, we got to finally experience some sexual chemistry.
04:01Was that scene, which would get you thrown out at many restaurants, was that the most fun
04:06to do or the most awkward?
04:08The scene when you hear us in the bathroom.
04:10Oh, my gosh.
04:11Well, it's so funny because Will and I are such good friends.
04:13So I would say it was really fun, sweet.
04:19Like, I don't even think about it because you're really thinking about the character.
04:22And even though this couple fights a lot, they really do love one another.
04:27And that was important for the story.
04:30He just, he's still, like, crazy about her.
04:33And I get really irritated with him, but we have sexual chemistry.
04:35So it felt like I'm just in the character.
04:39Isn't that interesting?
04:40And then Will and I are old school where I'm like, he's like, now let me know, is it
04:45okay, whatever.
04:45And I'm like, just have fun, be in the moment.
04:48I'm wild that way as a performer where I just want to be in the moment and really fully
04:52immersed.
04:53So it was really fun, I would say.
04:55Super fun.
04:55That scene made me laugh in the table read, though, when you guys were leading up to that
05:00moment.
05:00And it was like, it's been an interesting day.
05:03Oh, yeah.
05:03What an interesting day.
05:06And you just, like, you're reading the script and you're like, oh, wait, I think I see where
05:10this is going.
05:11It's more intense.
05:12Such an interesting day.
05:15Yeah.
05:16Yeah.
05:17But you know what's so funny is some people, when there's actors like, you know, guests,
05:22I'm sure you've talked to, where they go, oh, you don't really feel anything when you're
05:26doing those scenes.
05:27It's just acting.
05:28But that's really not true.
05:31That's all I'm going to say.
05:32I'm like, what are people talking about?
05:34Of course you feel things.
05:35It feels, you know, you feel things.
05:39I'm talking to all men.
05:40I'm like, what?
05:41You know what I mean?
05:42Isn't that funny?
05:43Yeah.
05:43Oh, yeah.
05:45I'm feeling things right now.
05:48We're all having a moment.
05:50Isaac and Souk from 105.1 The Fan in Portland.
05:53So you mentioned you and Will go back a long ways.
05:56He's worked with Luke a bunch.
05:57Jimmy, what was it like?
05:58First, how did you get this?
05:59And then what was it like kind of getting dumped in the middle of a movie like this,
06:03where it seems it gets pretty crazy pretty fast?
06:06This was actually my fourth time working with Will.
06:13We had done like an animated thing together.
06:15And then we did a movie where like there was two weddings and I was kind of in the other
06:20wedding.
06:20And then we did a movie that hasn't come out yet that we were in like a lot together.
06:25So it kind of felt like a natural progression.
06:29And we just were getting, I just was, you know, had more and more scenes with Will, each project.
06:34But I was actually on set of that one.
06:35And they started asking me like, can you golf?
06:39And they were just floating it out there like, what's your golf game like?
06:43And so I could feel like something was happening, like they were kind of vetting me.
06:48And me and Will had actually golfed like two months before the show.
06:52So he knew that I had some capabilities.
06:56But then when I got the call, it was just an immediate, immediate yes before even really
07:03hearing the concept.
07:05So hoping you both can answer this, but the, one of the great things about the show is the
07:11heart, you know, that comes out of it and it comes out a little later.
07:15You know, you don't see it coming.
07:16Who do you think wins the award for the most heart?
07:20Stacey certainly showed her heart, you know, Lonnie, Fortune is certainly a, seems like
07:27a wonderful person throughout the whole show.
07:28Who do you think wins the award for the most heart?
07:31Probably not Lonnie.
07:35I think Sam, Sam is definitely a contender.
07:42She definitely kind of like brings to the surface some of Lonnie's feelings.
07:49Um, and kind of operates as like a bit of a moral compass throughout, throughout the show
07:56for him.
07:57Um, and Lance kind of operates as like, maybe, maybe it shows him what he's doing wrong.
08:07And Sam shows him what he could be doing right.
08:10Um, so I don't know.
08:12I think that like everyone kind of brings a little bit of heart in certain different ways.
08:18Um, but yeah, maybe Sam.
08:20Yeah.
08:20Mm-hmm.
08:21I love the scene in the bathroom when you talk about heart where Will and I, when we
08:25come out of the saw and I go, are we terrible parents?
08:28And I love dramatic emotional moments within comedies because it really anchors in and it
08:35gives it like this emotional, truthful root that then you can play the comedy on top of
08:41it.
08:41But to me, I always treat comedy in a very dramatic way because I think it makes a comedy
08:45richer because it's real.
08:47It's coming from a real place.
08:48Yeah.
08:49If it's funny to the characters, it's not going to be funny to the audience.
08:53Yes.
08:54Yes.
08:54So the more serious the character is about what it is that's going on, the funnier the audience
09:00will find it.
09:02Yeah.
09:02Yeah, exactly.
09:04Uh, Jimmy, obviously working with Molly, working with Will feels like a lot of fun, but your
09:08character Lance had to, as a child, have a little bit of resentment towards his mother
09:12Stacey, resentment obviously with Lonnie.
09:14How hard is that as an actor to channel resentment for two people you're having like a great time
09:18with on set?
09:19That is, you know, it was tough because these are two people who I really admire and my character
09:25hates them and is just constantly like mad at them the whole time.
09:31So that definitely, you know, I was definitely acting and there's moments where, you know,
09:36you can kind of just tap into your natural self and there's moments where you're like,
09:41I have to resist the natural urges to like, you know, laugh with these people and enjoy
09:47the moment.
09:48Like my character does not think you're funny.
09:52So actually, no, I'm not going to laugh at it.
09:56I love how music plays a big role in getting Lonnie in the zone, right?
10:00To play loose.
10:00Cisco Thong song, right?
10:02Yeah.
10:03What would be your walk-up song or like, you know, the song that would kind of make you
10:06feel loose in real life?
10:08Oh, I love that.
10:09Um, let's see here.
10:14Um, do you have one, Jimmy?
10:16Well, it's different because like for life, I would use one that gets me hyped up.
10:22Like my mind goes to that song, uh, Dope Boys by The Game.
10:26It's like, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum.
10:30Yes.
10:31What's up?
10:33Um, but then for golfing, it would be something a little more serene, calm.
10:39Um, don't want to get too adrenaline-ed up.
10:44Well said Enya.
10:45Something more like yelling.
10:46Oh my gosh, that's so funny.
10:48To calm down.
10:49Yeah.
10:50I was thinking that watching the Knicks walk into play, you know, when they seem like they're
10:54trained to just keep the noise out and they all have their like AirPods in and I'm like,
11:00what music are they listening to?
11:02And I love how they're able to really do that.
11:04It's so impressive, you know, because that has to be so hard.
11:07But yeah, my song would be maybe, um, let's see, Talking Heads, um, Burning Down the House.
11:15Ooh, okay.
11:15How about that?
11:16That's fun.
11:16I like that.
11:17That's good.
11:18Good pull.
11:19Yeah, yeah.
11:19Okay, good.
11:20I love thinking about music.
11:21In the show, obviously, you are, if not the best golfer, one of the best golfers.
11:25In real life, Will said they had to do a lot of edits and cuts because you would shank a
11:29lot of shots.
11:31He said that?
11:32Yeah, he said it.
11:33And so the question is, who do you think is the best golfer in real life on the cast of
11:38The Hawk?
11:39I think it is, without a doubt, Luke Wilson.
11:42Yeah.
11:45You know, I don't know if we had to edit that many of my shots, but it's definitely Luke.
11:52He definitely came in with, like, the best-looking swing and fundamentals.
11:57And for me, some of the hardest acting I had to do was keeping a straight face and pretending the
12:03ball went straight when I just watched myself shank it into the bushes.
12:07Knowing they're going to edit that ball, but not even letting a little bit of anger cross my face.
12:13It's tough.
12:13He said budget was twice what it was supposed to be.
12:16He said that.
12:17All of the shots that you shanked in the bushes.
12:19He said all that?
12:20Yeah, he said all of it.
12:21He didn't even ask that.
12:22I got to talk to him about this.
12:24One of my favorite scenes in the whole thing is when Lance goes off the rails.
12:29The poker game and the dyed hair.
12:32That seemed like that was a lot of fun to film.
12:34How much input did you have in that?
12:37Or, again, how much of that was just, you know, kind of what's written there?
12:40Because it felt like that would have been a prime spot to maybe improv and look like it was maybe
12:44a lot of fun to play.
12:45That side of, because you get this such serious Lance and the health nut and all that.
12:50And then you get the, we're going to go completely the opposite way.
12:53Yeah, that was fun to play.
12:57I think, like, definitely the scene where I'm kind of, like, you know, drunk on the, and they're watching me
13:02on the security cameras.
13:03That was a lot of fun to just kind of switch it up.
13:06I had been in such a serious character mode the whole time.
13:09So, really just, like, kind of letting loose in those scenes was funny.
13:14I wanted to go blonde with the hair, but they were like, no, we got Luke, Fortune, and Will all
13:20with blonde hair.
13:21It's too much blonde hair.
13:22So, we landed on pink.
13:25And it was, it was a vibe.
13:28I mean, when I'd throw in that, like, fuzzy jacket on, I really felt like a new guy.
13:34And the glasses, too.
13:35It was like Tyler Durden from Fight Club, I feel like.
13:38It was a look.
13:39It was a look.
13:40So, mom.
13:41Pulled it off.
13:41And also, we were shooting in Hollywood that day.
13:44So, there was a time when I was, like, walking down, like, in Hollywood, and, like, no one even batted
13:50a knife.
13:51It was like, yeah.
13:52There's a guy that's walking down the street in Hollywood right now.
13:55That's so fun to do that.
13:56I once had, for a TV show, I had really old age makeup for the other two shows that I
14:03did.
14:03Not to be talking about another show.
14:05But I went out for lunch during my lunch break in real life.
14:07And I was like, this is so fun.
14:08Like, I'm in a total disguise.
14:11And I was like, God, I should meet someone.
14:13Like, ask somebody to meet me.
14:14But it's really fun doing that because you feel, like, in complete character.
14:20So, Molly, seeing how you have such a chemistry and a long history with Will, where do you think Lonnie
14:25ranks amongst the great Will Ferrell characters, even SNL characters?
14:31Oh, my gosh.
14:33Let's see.
14:33I would say it ranks up there really high.
14:36I think he's just so good at immersing himself in creating an original character.
14:41And to be part of Will's, like, television debut is so exciting that he's doing a big Will Ferrell character
14:48for television.
14:51I'm so excited to be a part of that.
14:53But this is, I think Lonnie Hawkins is a great character.
14:57He's lovable, but very, like, you know, a narcissist, but then will surprise people and do thoughtful things.
15:06But, yeah, Will really thinks about these characters deeply and creates such, don't you think?
15:12100%.
15:13Yeah, I'm like, what?
15:13Iconic.
15:14Iconic.
15:15But he really studies people, and he could imitate anyone, and he is just so good at doing that, you
15:23know?
15:23You kind of forget it's Will Ferrell.
15:25It almost becomes the character.
15:27Each one of those iconic characters kind of stands on its own, even though it's the same guy that looks
15:33the same.
15:34They are very independent of each other.
15:36Yeah, it's true.
15:36And it is a good sign for the character's iconicness.
15:41I don't think that's a word, but when you can see how it could be a Halloween costume, I feel
15:49like that's a good marker of, like, when a character is going to break through and be iconic.
15:54And I feel like Lonnie Hawkins, that's a quick one to throw together.
15:57Well, the Hawk visor is awful, but I had to have one.
16:00Of course, I know, right?
16:02It's great.
16:02We're wearing that.
16:03The Hawk, oh, yeah, it's so great.
16:05Everybody that watches this show is going to leave with one question, so I want to ask you guys this
16:09question.
16:10Is video golf real golf?
16:11I don't think so.
16:15I mean, it's fun, but it feels very much like a different thing to me, because part of me is
16:22always like, do I really trust how accurate the computers are?
16:31It's so much, it's like, I don't know, it feels like there could be mistakes in there, and you'd have
16:36no way of knowing.
16:38And also, I just like the, so much of golf for me that I love is just, like, going to
16:43different courses and being outside.
16:47So it's definitely a cool, it's a cool arena, and it's fun, but it just, it feels like very much
16:53like a different thing.
16:55And, Molly, between you and Will, I mean, so many iconic lines over the years that I've been reciting since
17:01I was a kid.
17:02I mean, superstar, and I was telling Will my favorite line was, I drive a Dodge Stratus.
17:07I was, I remember that when I was, like, eight years old, do you guys have a favorite Will line
17:11from over the years that kind of has stayed with you?
17:14Well, when Will auditioned for SNL, he did his Get Off the Shed character.
17:19After the, so we started on SNL together, and I don't know if you remember that one, but he plays
17:24a dad who's just screaming at his kid, Get Off the Shed!
17:28Well, he's trying to have, like, a normal conversation, he keeps yelling.
17:31Yes, exactly, right, he's trying to have a normal conversation, he keeps yelling.
17:33So I love that, that sticks in my head.
17:36Yeah, probably that.
17:38I like that one.
17:38Yeah, yeah.
17:39The one that comes to mind for me is, because there's also so many that just, like, jump into my
17:43mind, and I'd be on set with Will, and I'd, like, almost say it, and I'm like, oh, wait, I
17:48almost just quoted him.
17:49Oh, my gosh.
17:50Where I'd, like, you know, milk was a bad choice.
17:53Milk was a bad choice is a good one.
17:55Oh, my gosh.
17:57I pretty much say it every time I see milk outside.
17:59It's a lot.
18:00Yeah, yeah.
18:02Congratulations, Molly.
18:03You recently got yourself a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
18:06Will showed up and gave a nice little speech there, and it was a real heartfelt speech.
18:11I think a lot of people were waiting for him to drop the comedy shoe, and he just stayed.
18:15Yeah.
18:15And like you mentioned earlier, it's the dramatic that makes the comedy funnier, but how does it feel, and where
18:21do you rank that as far as things that have happened in your career, getting that star on the Hollywood
18:25Walk of Fame, probably being slept on right now by a bum?
18:27Oh, that's so funny.
18:29Yeah, it feels great.
18:30I really, it's such a big deal, and I feel so excited about it, and it feels also very small
18:38town, because I went to my little local coffee shop, and people were like, congratulations on your star.
18:42Yeah, it felt like it's a wonderful life, like it had a very local Hollywood, and just the fact that
18:47Will showed up for me, and then was so generous to say that, I really appreciate it, because in all
18:52honesty, the business can be cutthroat, competitive, and I was just like, this means so much to me.
18:58And in all honesty, I'm a little shy, like when I did SNL, I wouldn't really invite close friends to
19:04come see me perform, because I had a fear that I would disappoint them.
19:07I can perform for strangers, but when it comes to people who know me, I always feel like, oh God,
19:13they're going to be disappointed, and they'll leave, which gives me a drive in show business.
19:17But so it felt very vulnerable, like very emotional, and so it just meant the world to me for Will
19:24Ferrell to show up, and Connie Britton, and have my family there.
19:28It was like, as my publicist said to me, she goes, Molly, it's like a wedding, and that's what it
19:32feels like, yeah, but thank you.
19:34And also the fact that your star is your neighbors with Will.
19:37Yes, neighbors with Will.
19:38On the Walk of Fame.
19:39Yeah, yeah, we're near the Hollywood Wax Museum, and so, yeah.
19:43Between that and the sexual tension.
19:45Exactly.
19:48I mean, you brought up SNL a bunch, and I would assume that there's a competitive nature.
19:54Yes, yes, there is.
19:55You mentioned he's breaking himself, he's breaking other people, so when you're on a set like this, with so many
20:01funny people, is there a sense of you guys competing, or is there an element of you're trying to go
20:07bigger, or is it more kind of collaborative?
20:10I think it's more collaborative.
20:12I don't think there's any, you know, there's no benefit to winning in, like, that kind of a, because if
20:18someone, you know, is the funniest in the scene, it's great.
20:22You know, it's great for the, for the scene, so I think, like, I know, there are definitely sets where
20:27you can maybe feel a little bit of that competitiveness, and that kind of doesn't, I don't think it helps
20:32the creative.
20:33I think what's good, what, what works best is when everyone wants everyone else to, to win.
20:39Mm-hmm.
20:39Mm-hmm.
20:40Yeah.
20:41So, what's the show, so, in the end, besides golf, what's the, what's the show about?
20:49It's a sports comedy, of course, and it's, it's a perfect setup for a comedy, because there's heroes and rivals,
20:55but then underneath it, it's the family, too.
20:58Yeah.
20:58So, it's about both of those worlds, both of those families, because the golfers are, like, a family, too, but
21:03then our little family, and so, I would say, yeah, you're saying, what is it about?
21:11Maybe it's about, like, it's never too late, you know, it's never too late to change, never too late to
21:17mend a relationship.
21:18There is a great redemption arc to it.
21:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:21Really loving redemption.
21:23Never too late to never come back.
21:24Yeah, and surprising, right?
21:25Yes.
21:25Yeah.
21:26Very.
21:26Yeah.
21:27Say it's never too late is a, is a big theme.
21:30Yeah.
21:30Yeah.
21:32Nice.
21:32And people are complicated, you never know, you may think they're one way, and then you're like, wow, you really
21:37surprised me, that asshole was able to, you never know.
21:40Stacey's a great mom.
21:41Yeah, yeah, exactly.
21:42You know?
21:43Even though I'm like, you must destroy, I like that little Lego.
21:48This has been a lot of fun, thank you all for sitting down with us, we really appreciate it.
21:52Of course, Jamie, Molly, pleasure, thanks for hanging out.
21:55Thank you so much.
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