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We talk with Greg Varnau about what drives someone to climb Mount Everest and what that kind of pressure teaches you about fear, preparation, and purpose. Then we connect that mountain mindset to chiropractic care, mobility, and why modern sedentary life makes “move it or lose it” feel painfully true.
• growing up around mountains and returning to Santa Monica
• Into Thin Air as the spark for Everest curiosity
• meeting climbers and learning why “miserable” can feel meaningful
• training climbs in Ecuador including Cotopaxi and Chimborazo
• dealing with altitude sickness and pushing through smartly
• joining a guided Everest team and the role of Sherpas
• the summit day moment spotting a NASA patch
• choosing chiropractic through a desire to help people hands-on
• network spinal chiropractic and what patients feel after adjustments
• aging, posture, screens, and the myth of inevitable decline
• health as the foundation that makes everything else possible
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We talk with Greg Varnau about what drives someone to climb Mount Everest and what that kind of pressure teaches you about fear, preparation, and purpose. Then we connect that mountain mindset to chiropractic care, mobility, and why modern sedentary life makes “move it or lose it” feel painfully true.
• growing up around mountains and returning to Santa Monica
• Into Thin Air as the spark for Everest curiosity
• meeting climbers and learning why “miserable” can feel meaningful
• training climbs in Ecuador including Cotopaxi and Chimborazo
• dealing with altitude sickness and pushing through smartly
• joining a guided Everest team and the role of Sherpas
• the summit day moment spotting a NASA patch
• choosing chiropractic through a desire to help people hands-on
• network spinal chiropractic and what patients feel after adjustments
• aging, posture, screens, and the myth of inevitable decline
• health as the foundation that makes everything else possible
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00:00Hello, welcome to another episode of Perstitutionalist Podcast.
00:06I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard.
00:09That's L-E-N-A-R-D.
00:12It looks French.
00:13It's not.
00:14It's Leonard without an O.
00:17Thank you for tuning in, as Graham Norton used to say, on his show.
00:23Let's get on with the show!
00:25So, joining me today is Greg Varnow.
00:31It looks like Varnow has an A-U on the end.
00:36It's G-R-E-G-V-A-R-N-A-U, Varnow, or like in Bar-None, Varnow.
00:48Welcome to the show, Greg.
00:50Hey, thank you so much.
00:51It's great to be here.
00:52Really glad to meet you.
00:56And today, well, for behind the scenes, Ash Wednesday, for those who could see the video,
01:05that's why he looks the way he does.
01:07He doesn't normally walk around like that.
01:11Not normally.
01:13Definitely not normally.
01:14Today is a special day.
01:16Yeah, I have had health weeks in February of 2025.
01:23I had people on regarding health before that and after that.
01:29I'm going to talk to you about chiropractic practices.
01:33But before that, I want to get into your Everest climb.
01:39But before even that, where were you born and raised?
01:43Where are you now?
01:45How much time have you spent in prison for what?
01:49For the record, he's laughing.
01:51That's a joke, people.
01:54Not a serious question, I see.
01:57But I can tell you if you want to know.
02:01So I was born in Santa Monica, California.
02:07My condolences.
02:09Yes, thank you.
02:10Thank you so much.
02:11Thank you so much.
02:12My parents felt the same way.
02:14So they grew out when I was two years old.
02:17So I never grew up in California.
02:20I grew up in Seattle.
02:23And, you know, I was up there surrounded by mountains and beauty.
02:27I'm a nature boy at heart.
02:29I love to be outside.
02:33And now here I am.
02:35And it's full circle.
02:36I'm actually back in Santa Monica area.
02:39So that's where I currently am.
02:41Yeah.
02:42Okay.
02:43It is beautiful in California.
02:46Yeah.
02:48Just all that other stuff that goes on.
02:51Yeah, exactly.
02:53The son's a nice friend to have down here.
02:57Yes.
02:58I've visited California.
03:00Well, I've been out there for work decades ago.
03:06You know, to go back for a visit would be nice.
03:09But at any rate.
03:13To go in and out in your case.
03:15Not to live too long.
03:18Yeah.
03:18Yes, absolutely.
03:19I spent a whole August there back in like 2002.
03:26It was Ontario, California.
03:29I used to work for Kmart HQ.
03:31And we had a warehouse there.
03:35I was out there to work on the computers there.
03:38Yeah.
03:39But at any rate.
03:40Yeah.
03:40And I love the time out there.
03:42That was great.
03:43Love to be able to go up the mountain.
03:45Up to Rancho, Cucamonga.
03:48Beautiful.
03:49You know, you'd be in the city.
03:51And just a short drive up the side of the mountain.
03:55You're in horse country rather than car country.
03:58Right.
03:59So.
04:00Yeah.
04:00Yeah.
04:01And now you live in where again?
04:04Now you're currently.
04:05I'm in the Detroit area.
04:07Born and raised here.
04:09So.
04:09Okay.
04:10The car.
04:11The car.
04:12The car of Mecca.
04:13Where it all began with the automobile.
04:15Right?
04:16Yeah.
04:17Yeah.
04:17So, let's talk about the Everest thing.
04:22You said, you started saying you've, you know, being in the wonderful, you know, nature
04:30areas of Washington and California, you've always felt outdoorsy.
04:36But what made you decide to take it to that level?
04:41You've got to climb Everest.
04:43I mean, that's a whole other kind of aspiration.
04:48Yeah.
04:49Yeah.
04:49I think, you know, I like to deprive myself of oxygen is the main reason.
04:56I feel like it's a good way to experience nature when you're short on oxygen.
05:02So.
05:03Now, the reason was, it was really just a variety of events that led me there.
05:11At the end of the day, it really is just a love for the mountains, love to be outside.
05:17You know, everybody experiences, you know, connection with something greater than themselves
05:23and unique ways.
05:25And for me, in my case, it was being in nature was the way that I, you know, connected and
05:31experienced something greater than myself.
05:35So, yeah, that's really was the draw.
05:38I read, you know, the book Into Thin Air when I was a teenager back in the 90s, if anyone
05:45remembers what that was like.
05:48And I remember reading that book and it just, it terrified me.
05:54It terrified me.
05:55I thought it was one of the scariest things I could imagine, being up that high without
05:59anyone around and running out of oxygen, getting caught in a storm.
06:05It's like that was like kind of like the worst possible thing I could imagine.
06:10Sounded sounded very terrifying.
06:14And yet at the same time, it also sounded very intriguing.
06:17It just sounded like it captured my imagination.
06:19That story captured my imagination.
06:21So, it was something that just sounded like a fantasy, like to be at the tallest point
06:26on the planet.
06:27And like, what is it like up there?
06:29You know, like, what is it like?
06:31Is it, what are the rocks like?
06:32What, what is, what's the snow like?
06:34What's, what's like the, you know, just so curious about everything.
06:39What are the people like?
06:40Yeah.
06:42I've been up into the Colorado Rockies, but yeah, I can't imagine being up much higher
06:49than that.
06:51Yeah.
06:53Yeah.
06:53It's, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's one of those things.
06:56I mean, if you like the Rockies, it's like, that's, you know, essentially I feel like all
07:00the mountain, each mountain has its own draw, you know, like, doesn't matter how tall it
07:05is.
07:06There's something about the mountain that, you know, I think it has this magnetic quality
07:10to it that, that makes people curious and want to like, want to go like what it, what's
07:16up there, you know, or maybe it's just me.
07:19I don't know, but I think a lot of people have that temptation, but again, it's, it's a whole
07:28other thing to take it to that level of, yeah, I'm going to do it.
07:33Like, yeah.
07:36Yeah.
07:36And then the, um, that was mostly just, I consider that mostly like right place, right
07:42time.
07:42You know, a lot of, a lot of what got me up there was luck.
07:46If you believe in luck or, you know, some might call it grace if you believe in grace,
07:52but, uh, that's, that's really, it was just, it was a wild road to get there.
07:58But I was originally was traveling and, um, down in South America and it all started when
08:08I met like these guys from the Netherlands, these Dutch climbers who were talking about
08:14the recent experience going up a really tall peak in Bolivia.
08:20And they described it as basically the, one of the most miserable experiences of their
08:26life and hearing them talk about it.
08:32Um, I could hear that he was saying it was miserable.
08:35Like that's what he was saying with his words, but there was something about it too, that
08:41the way he said it was that he, he, he loved it as well.
08:47He loved how miserable it was.
08:50If that makes sense.
08:51He loved how like the, the excitement and the adrenaline and, uh, the way he felt when he
08:57was up there is like, he was miserable.
09:00And also he felt so alive.
09:03Right.
09:04Very fulfilling that he was able to meet those challenges and live through it.
09:12I mean, there's a lot of abandoned bodies on the top of Everest.
09:16So you've been there, you've been there, you, you're back.
09:21Did you go as part of a team or?
09:24Yeah.
09:25You know, it, it was that I was actually in Colorado and I had just climbed up Pike's
09:31peak in preparation to meet with a friend who really was my Everest mentor and inspiration.
09:39His name is Jim.
09:41And, um, he invited me to go on a climbing trip down in Ecuador.
09:49And I didn't really know exactly what I was doing with my life.
09:52At that point, I was deciding the next steps and I decided, okay, what the heck?
09:59I'll go, I'll go meet up with Jim and go climb, climb a couple of mountains.
10:03I'm sure he's got something fun in store.
10:06So I got down there and I just, I don't know.
10:10I was just at that point praying for guidance and clarity and, and kind of get clear on what
10:15the next steps were.
10:17And somewhere along the lines, I just remember thinking that when I got to the top of Chimborazo
10:24mountain, I was going to know what I wanted to do next in my life.
10:30And I, um, so I went on the trip and I was like, all right, let's just do it.
10:34Let's see what's going on.
10:35And me and Jim, uh, joined a guide named Jaime.
10:40He was a local Ecuador guide and we got to go up two different, um, volcanoes.
10:46The first one was called Cotopaxi.
10:50And, um, we, you know, get, I got up there and we stayed in a little hiker hut.
10:56Everyone was snoring in the hiker hut.
10:58So no one really slept well.
11:00At least I didn't sleep well.
11:03And, um, the next day we left or that night, rather, we left at like around one in the morning
11:09and we hiked up to the top of the mountain and, um, we got down and I actually got the
11:17worst altitude sickness I've ever had on that trip.
11:20I was like extremely sick.
11:22I was vomiting.
11:24I didn't know that I was going to be able to do the second volcano, which is what we
11:29were training for.
11:30And, um, my guide was even wondering if I would be able to do it.
11:35He's like, I don't know if you guys are ready for this one.
11:38But we, we went ahead and we went up and did it the next, I think two days later.
11:44And meanwhile, Jim is one of those guys.
11:46He's been on Everest five times.
11:48He had been on Everest five times and Jaime had been on Everest as well.
11:53And I was just super curious.
11:55I was asking them all these questions.
11:57I was like, what is it like up there?
11:59Like, how do you sleep up there?
12:01What do you, how do you go to the bathroom up there?
12:04Like, how do you like so many questions?
12:06Like it's, it's such a unique thing.
12:08That's like, we don't, we don't think about like, yeah, no, no port-a-potties up there.
12:14Yeah, exactly.
12:16Exactly.
12:17There's no, what do you do?
12:18You know, like just go anywhere.
12:21And, um, it was, uh, it was just wild.
12:24It was like, I was just so curious and wanted to learn more and, um, you know, in the back
12:29of my head of, I was like, uh, I was thinking, of course I want to go.
12:33I mean, like, do you ask anyone, like, do you want to, do you, do you want to see the
12:37top of Mount Everest?
12:38Like, you know, take away all the risk and everything.
12:41Do you want to just check it out and see what it's like?
12:44Yeah.
12:44Hopefully one day there'll be cable cars to take people like me up there.
12:49Yeah.
12:51Yeah, exactly.
12:51Like, no thanks, but a cable car?
12:55Sure, I'll go.
12:56Yeah.
12:57Absolutely.
12:58And I got a joke with you, even though your name is Varno, you were an eager yes.
13:04But a pun, right?
13:05Yeah, exactly.
13:06In that case, I was a Varno, yes.
13:11My audience knows I can't pass on the lame puns.
13:17It's good.
13:18We love a good pun.
13:19Do you come from a medical family?
13:25Pivoting, obviously.
13:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:28My dad is a, he does, my dad does prosthetics and orthotics.
13:33And he's retired now, but so he did that for many, for like many years.
13:38And then my mom does mental, did mental health.
13:41She was, yeah, like a therapist, so.
13:45Yeah, so going into medicine, the medical fields of some kind was probably a path you thought was going to
13:56be your way early on then?
13:59Or no?
14:00You know, it took me, it was actually, yeah, I think, I think, you know, early on, I knew I
14:06wanted to help people, right?
14:07Like, I knew I wanted to help people.
14:10And so it took me some time to know exactly what that was going to look like.
14:15But basically, I knew I loved to work with my hands.
14:19I knew I loved to help people.
14:21I was seeing a chiropractor at the time.
14:23It totally changed my life.
14:26And, you know, basically I was like, yeah, I could do this.
14:31This is something I could see myself doing.
14:33But, so, that's how it all kind of started.
14:37Uh-huh.
14:37And so where did you school for that?
14:41So I studied over in California at Life West, it's called.
14:47It's in the Bay Area.
14:49And this little city called Hayward, California.
14:54So, right in the heart of the Bay Area.
14:57Mm-hmm.
14:58So you have a successful practice going on in California now, I take it?
15:04I do, yeah.
15:05I'm over in Venice, California.
15:07That's why I have the surfboard over there.
15:10Yeah, for those who are looking on the behind-the-scenes video,
15:14you could see the red, yellow, and green surfboard leaning against the wall back there.
15:21For the benefit of the 25-plus audio, we got to spell it out for them.
15:29Exactly, exactly.
15:31So you do, you like to surf then, obviously, or it's just a prop?
15:36You know, it's mostly a prop, but every once in a while, I'll put it in the car.
15:42I had it out yesterday, actually.
15:44So, yeah.
15:45I do love to surf.
15:46I love to surf.
15:47I love being in the water.
15:49Yeah.
15:51I'm the exact opposite.
15:53I'm very much land-oriented.
16:01I don't even eat things out of, you know, tuna, sure, okay, but love swordfish when I tried it,
16:10but that's more like a steak.
16:11But fish, I like to joke, I don't even want the steak if they bathed the cow before it was
16:19slaughtered.
16:20That's how much anti-things from the water I am.
16:24Okay.
16:25Yeah, so you're the land animals.
16:26You like the land animals as well.
16:31Yeah.
16:32So how long have you been doing chiropractic?
16:35Is that the correct term?
16:37Yeah.
16:39Chiropractic, chiropractic, it's tomato-tomato.
16:43The chiropractic I was doing since 2015 is when I first discovered this style of chiropractic
16:53called network spinal through my chiropractor.
16:57And then I've been practicing since 2020.
17:03So it's been a great experience.
17:06I love helping people.
17:09I love seeing their face after an adjustment.
17:12It's the best part.
17:14Sometimes they're like just blown away.
17:16And I really need like a little light camera on my collar so I can capture people's, you
17:22know, faces afterwards because that's the funnest part to me.
17:25Yeah, I'm long overdue for an adjustment.
17:29My neck will pop occasionally a little bit on its own, but I'm in dire need.
17:35I had an auto accident when I was young.
17:38So as you would imagine, yeah, the things are screwed up.
17:44Yeah.
17:46Yeah, those auto accidents are no joke.
17:49Our body was not meant to stop suddenly at extremely fast speeds, you know?
17:56But even people as a health maintenance thing, chiropractic, it makes sense, right?
18:06We need to remain loose and limber, especially now in our sedimentary type lifestyles.
18:16We don't get the exercise we used to, which would kind of more naturally keep us loose and limber.
18:27Yeah, absolutely.
18:28Absolutely.
18:29That's one of the first things, expressions I learned in chiropractic school was Wolf's Law, which states move it or
18:37lose it.
18:38So kind of sums it up right there, you know?
18:41You want to keep it going, keep everything working, and just keep on moving, really.
18:46And there's certain ways we forget to move.
18:50So that's what the chiropractor's for, is to help you move those places that are stuck, basically.
18:56So, yeah.
18:59Yeah.
19:02And, yeah, so you said you've been to a chiropractor.
19:06You used to go to a chiropractor.
19:07Yes.
19:07Yes.
19:09Long do, you know, insurance.
19:13Sometimes they'll cover it, sometimes they won't.
19:16I'm on a disability budget.
19:18I know I need it, but yet I can't afford the co-pays, right?
19:21So, yeah, I know I need it, but yet I can't quite afford it.
19:30But at least every once in a while, I should go back to have that loosened up so that things
19:38start to move a little again on their own.
19:42Yeah, it's one of those things I feel like that I have thought about it again and again is just,
19:51like, what a value and what, like, a blessing it is when we're healthy, you know?
19:57It's one of those things that I don't think we realize until we get sick or we hurt ourselves.
20:05And then, you know, we can't move, and then it's, like, all of a sudden, then it's, like, what's more
20:11valuable, right?
20:12Like, forget, forget, you know, where I, forget eating even, like, forget, like, everything.
20:18It's, like, I need to get my body, like, to work again so that I can keep on living.
20:23And I'm 63 now, of course, with each decade, gravity, you know, gives its extra wear and tear on the
20:34body.
20:34Yeah, absolutely.
20:37When you're younger, you're more nimble, you're, you know, the body just is more able to help itself, it seems,
20:50and the older you get, again, our sedimentary lifestyle.
20:55Yeah, absolutely.
20:58And, you know, that's the big thing that I've been stressing with people is I really do think it's a
21:05myth that when you get older, you need to, like, your body needs to stop working.
21:12I think that's an absolute myth.
21:14Like, I have seen countless examples and also myself, you know, I climbed Mount Everest, like, it was last year,
21:25essentially, so I was 42.
21:28That's, you know, that's good.
21:30That's not like I'm not, you know, I'm not a spring chicken at that point, right?
21:34Like, you're over 40 and it's like...
21:37Yeah, things really start to slide down, it seems, after age 40, yes.
21:43Yeah, and I just don't think it has to be that way, though.
21:48I don't think it has to be, like, a major downhill slope where it's like you have to be resigned
21:54to being in pain or not being able to do stuff you used to love.
21:59And, you know, I actually, my chiropractor, he's a role model for me because he's 59 now and I hear
22:08him say, like, he, and I believe him, he says he's now in the best shape of his life.
22:15And I don't know how he did it.
22:17I don't know exactly what it, like, I still marvel at it, but, I mean, he's moving really well for
22:23his age.
22:23And I feel like that's really what I want to communicate with people so that I can help others, you
22:30know, with their lives move that well, so.
22:34Yeah, I got into IT before I went on disability, so, indeed, you know, eight hours a day mostly sitting
22:44in a cubicle.
22:46So, that's not how we're meant to be as humans.
22:51Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
22:54People who are out doing construction for a living, they kind of remain in shape somewhat naturally and much more
23:04limber naturally because their body's perpetually in motion and they're staying physical as opposed to, again, I can't say it
23:15off, our bad sedimentary lifestyles of today.
23:20Right.
23:21More and more.
23:22And it's really bad, our kids, you know, sitting, watching everything on the screen, just sitting on the couch and
23:33not getting out experiencing things.
23:37We're getting worse instead of better.
23:40We know better, but we're getting worse anyway.
23:44Yeah, absolutely.
23:45It's kind of this quiet event that's taking place in our life where we're all kind of getting more and
23:54more hooked on these little devices in our pockets and feeling like we can't live without them.
23:59And we spend so much of our life now kind of hunched over looking at these things and staring at
24:05them a good chunk of the day.
24:07And, you know, between that and then our current like health care crisis with all the different rising cases of
24:15Alzheimer's and Parkinson's and you got these kids like in, you know, grade school with, you know, diagnosed with ADHD
24:24and getting fed all these pills from, you know, such a young, young age.
24:29And it's really, yeah, I myself, when I go to the doctor next, got to talk to them about Parkinson's.
24:38I'm noticing involuntary movement in the right arm.
24:43I was like, okay, well, the longer you put something off, the only worse it's going to get.
24:49You need to have those discussions with doctors early on.
24:53And I was going to go somewhere and I forgot where it was.
25:00See, that's the other thing.
25:02Mom had dementia and I'm getting more and more brain fog.
25:07And it's like, I got to talk to them about that too.
25:10It's like, is it just natural aging of, yeah, just to lose my train of thought?
25:16Or is that something worse?
25:20Yeah, right.
25:21Yeah, exactly.
25:23Those are good questions.
25:25And how, how can I help it or whatever?
25:27Exactly.
25:27How can I help that?
25:29Yeah.
25:29Yeah.
25:29The longer we wait, the worse.
25:32Oh, I remember what it was now.
25:35Like the movie WALL-E.
25:38Remember the little robot, right?
25:40We go off the planet on ships and then everybody's on remote controlled.
25:48Little lounger chairs and we get fatter and fatter and fatter and fatter again, because of loss, no mobility, no
25:57exercise, sedimentary.
25:59I mean, that movie kind of sums it up, the reality.
26:05But yet again, we have these warnings, but we don't learn.
26:11Yeah.
26:11Yeah.
26:12Yeah, absolutely.
26:13Yeah.
26:14It's there.
26:15Hopefully we get, and then we get these reminders every once in a while, which is always helpful.
26:19But so hopefully it's not one of the negative reminders with our body yelling at us or whatever.
26:24But it certainly is becoming more and more common, I think, these days.
26:30So you've been to Everest.
26:33Yeah.
26:34Is it a trip on SpaceX to the moon next?
26:38How are you going to get any higher, right?
26:41Yeah, you know, exactly.
26:45And, you know, that's a great question.
26:47It was funny because when I was up there on my summit day, I was with my Sherpa guide, his
26:54name's Sonam.
26:56And to answer your question from earlier, I was part of a climbing team with this climbing company called IMG,
27:04which is International Mountain Guides.
27:06They're based up in Washington State as well.
27:10And Sonam and I were going up the mountain.
27:14We were going up the ridge doing the last final stretch.
27:19And at one point, he stopped.
27:21He just took a pause.
27:23And there are these couple guys behind us, this one guy, and I think he had two Sherpas with him.
27:31And so they were waiting for us.
27:33So I saw Sonam, like, wave these guys forward.
27:37And sure enough, these guys passed us on the rope, went ahead of us.
27:43You're going too slow, right?
27:46Move out of the way.
27:48Yeah.
27:48If he had a horn, he probably would have honked at us.
27:52He would have given us some kind of signal.
27:55But as he was walking by, I looked at his arm, and I was like, I saw it.
27:59It said NASA.
28:01He had a NASA patch on his arm.
28:04And so, again, I was just like, that's interesting.
28:06And so we kind of continue up.
28:09Me and Sonam continue up.
28:11He kind of – Sonam's used to this stuff because he's a Sherpa.
28:14So he was way ahead of me at one point.
28:16And he looked back at me.
28:17I'll never forget him because every time he looked back at me, he always looked surprised that I was that
28:23far behind him.
28:25And he looked back at me with this curious face like, what are you doing?
28:29And then he'd be like, come on.
28:31You're a slacker.
28:32Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:34He just was always like, what are you doing?
28:36Why are you – he's like, come on.
28:37He'd always be like with his hand, come on.
28:39And it just – it used to make me laugh because it was like – I was like, dude, like,
28:43I'm not up here all the time.
28:45Like, this isn't – this isn't the easiest thing for me in the world.
28:49But eventually, I listened – you know, I listened to him.
28:52I'm like, okay, I'll keep coming.
28:53All right, Sonam.
28:54And we eventually made it to the top.
28:57And those two guys, again, were there.
29:00The guy with his, like, jumpsuit on, essentially.
29:05He had the two patches.
29:07And then I saw three more patches.
29:08They said NASA on them.
29:10I was so curious about that.
29:13But we were also wearing oxygen masks.
29:15Makes it hard to converse, yeah.
29:18It was really hard to strike up a conversation with him at that moment.
29:22But I was very curious.
29:24And eventually, when I got to the bottom back down to base camp, I asked my guide about it.
29:32And Everest can be kind of a small world at a certain point.
29:36So basically, I found out which guiding company he was with and talked to the guy who was in charge.
29:42And he said, sure enough, that guy was about to go blast off with – I think they're called Blue
29:50Origin.
29:51Yeah.
29:52The Jeff Bezos thing.
29:54He was going to blast off to do a flight into the outer orbits shortly after.
30:02There's Elon, SpaceX.
30:04There's Blue Origin, Bezos.
30:06And there's Virgin Atlantic – oh, I can't think of his name.
30:11Yeah, that guy.
30:12Brain Fog again.
30:14But I can pick Branson.
30:16Branson.
30:17Yeah, that's him.
30:18Charles?
30:19No.
30:19Is that his name?
30:20Uh, I don't – yeah, whatever, Branson, yeah.
30:24Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:27So thank you, Varno, Greg Varno, for coming on.
30:32It was a great conversation.
30:34Do you have – have you chronologued this stuff on a website or anything like that?
30:41Do you have a website?
30:42Yeah, yeah.
30:43Yeah, you're more than welcome to follow me on Instagram if you want to learn more about
30:48the work that I do and how, you know, this work changed my life and allowed me to do things
30:54like climb Mount Everest, absolutely.
30:55Um, it was – the name of my Instagram is summit, appropriately, right?
31:01Summit underscore family underscore chiropractic is my Instagram page.
31:08And then my website is the same, summit hyphen family hyphen chiropractic.com.
31:18And I love to hear from you.
31:21Love to hear anyone's feedback.
31:23If they'd like to learn more about anything, just feel free to reach out on Instagram and
31:28I'd love to be in touch.
31:31Have a good one.
31:33Take care.
31:34All right.
31:34You too.
31:35Great meeting you.
31:36Have a good one.
31:45Life can be like an amusement ride, but not always amusing.
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32:20In the dust of my own mess, you still call my name.
32:27Hands shaking, heart unsteady, you don't look away.
32:34You stand in the middle of it all, closer than my fear.
32:40I was lost in the crowd, and you drew me near.
32:47And every walk falls down when you step into the room.
32:52Every lie goes quiet when I hear you move.
32:59My soul leans in, my knees give way.
33:06I know who you are.
33:09I know what stays.
33:14God among us.
33:16God among us.
33:19You are here.
33:21You are here.
33:26God among us.
33:29God among us.
33:32Oh, comes a light right here.
33:36You are here.
33:39You are here.
33:42You are here.
33:52God among us.
33:54God among us.
34:08Too weak to stand up, you keep me alive
34:13And every wall falls down when you step into the room
34:19Every lie goes quiet when I hear you move
34:26My soul leans in, my knees give way
34:32I know who you are, I know what stays
34:40God among us, God among us
34:46You are here, you are here
34:52God among us, God among us
34:58Hope comes alive right here
35:02You are here
35:04You are here
35:08You are here
35:14Savior in the shadows
35:16King with nail-scarred hands
35:20You don't run from my ruins
35:23You rebuild the land
35:26Here in the air
35:28Here in the blaze
35:32I lift my voice
35:37And I keep saying
35:40God among us
35:43God among us
35:46You are here
35:47You are here
35:49You are here
35:52God among us
35:56God among us
35:59Hope comes alive right here
36:03You are here
36:05You are here
36:10God among us
36:11God among us
36:13God our name
36:14we are here Lord
36:15your être God
36:20among us You
36:20are here How
36:23are we God
36:37among us
41:28He is in everything
41:30He is in everything
41:33Sometimes, as it may be in metaphors
41:37As riddles, in rhyme
41:41He is speaking
41:44Are we still listening
41:48In these fallen times?
42:06Life can be like an amusement ride
42:07But not always amusing
42:10Rollercoasters, the life kind
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42:48Since the cross was raised on Calvary's hill
42:53Men have stood on corners crying and is nigh
42:58Generation after generation
43:01Checking signs and seasons still
43:04Shall not know the hour
43:06Yet we always try
43:09We are frail and flawed, every one of us
43:12No soul among us, perfect
43:15None above the rest
43:19Check your pride and hubris
43:22Check your arrogance
43:23God don't run his kingdom on our schedule
43:26Or request
43:30There's a difference, hear me now
43:33Between longing for the day
43:35Lighting fires in the darkness
43:38Just to hurry up his way
43:42It's God's time, not ours
43:45His term's not our own
43:47We shall not know the hour
43:50That brings the king back home
43:53So the good, reap the good
43:56Stand against the night
43:59Evil wins when good men do nothing
44:02So rise up and fight
44:08It's God's time, not ours
44:14Matthew 16, 26
44:16What does a man gain?
44:19If he wins the whole wide world
44:22And throws his soul away
44:24You are known by all your fruits
44:27In the sun and in the rain
44:30Every seed you plant today
44:32Becomes your judgment day
44:35Those who stir up chaos
44:37Thinking God will be impressed
44:39Are in league with the antichrist
44:42Though they claim his holy name
44:45From the Christian old Shinrakiyo
44:48To the Islamic radicals
44:50Jihadists unrest
44:51Using God to justify the evil
44:53Is the devil's game
44:55There's a difference
44:57Hear me now
44:58Between longing for the day
45:00And pouring gasoline on embers
45:03Just to hurry up his way
45:06It's God's time, not ours
45:09His term's not our own
45:11We shall not know the hour
45:13That brings the king back home
45:16So the good, reap the good
45:20Stand against the night
45:22Evil wins when good men do nothing
45:26So rise up and fight
45:31It's God's time, not ours
45:38If you choose not to decide
45:41You still made your choice
45:44Inaction is inaction
45:46Silence is a voice
45:49Complicit in the evil
45:51That would otherwise be sown
45:54There's no way for a believer
45:56To be known, to be known
45:59Roar, restore
46:01Our American Republic
46:03R-O-A-R
46:04Push back the dark
46:06Roar
46:07We're not here to end it
46:09We're here to guard the flame
46:11In every heart
46:13Is the end really nigh this time
46:17For real?
46:19Every air asks the question
46:21Every frightened soul can feel
46:24That the world is spinning darker
46:26That the hour's drawing near
46:29But it's God's time, not ours
46:32Let that truth cut clean and clear
46:35It's God's time, not ours
46:38His time, not our own
46:41We shall not know the hour
46:43That brings the king back home
46:46So the good, reap the good
46:49Stand against the night
46:52Evil wins when good men do nothing
46:55So rise up and fight
46:58So rise up and fight
47:01It's God's time, not ours
47:04He's time
47:07Not ours
47:09He's time
47:10Not ours
47:12Be the liberty beacon
47:14Reflect God's lighthouse shine
47:17So to reap
47:18So to reap
47:20So to reap
47:21Known by your fruits
47:25God's time
47:27Not ours
47:30He's time
47:31So
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