00:00I understand, sir. With all due respect, you are a Republican strategist. I want to point out that I do
00:05not represent the Democratic Party in any way. In fact, I am unregistered. I am neither a Democrat nor a
00:11Republican. I am an independent. I used to work in the intelligence community for just over a decade.
00:16I know exactly how these assessments are put together and the types of people who are involved, and they are
00:22all, to a T, patriots. They are not trying to sway the evidence in one way or another to help
00:29one candidate or another. That's just not what the process is about.
00:32Now, actually, the process is starting to become that because our current president is intentionally politicizing the intelligence, and we've
00:40seen this across the board, including last night.
00:42But let me just say, in answer to the question, so when you look at the document that was declassified
00:49in 2021, the intelligence assessment, the majority of analysts or majority of intelligence community agencies involved believed that China sought
00:59to influence the 2020 election, but decided not to do so out of a concern that it might disrupt U
01:07.S.-China relations.
01:08Now, some folks are talking about a so-called minority report, which I think is funny because of the movie,
01:15The Minority Report. It's not quite the same thing. All right. But they are trying to suggest that there are
01:21some analysts or some agencies who were stifled by the majority.
01:26But, you know, if you read the report, you'll see that it actually points out there are some folks who
01:33disagreed with that assessment, who thought that China actually did interfere.
01:37OK, so we can have a debate about the intelligence, but I have to tell you that in my entire
01:44career, intelligence is fraught with uncertainty.
01:47You are literally reading tea leaves and you're trying to piece together a story that is inherently going to be
01:53incomplete and unsatisfactory for that reason.
01:57So, I mean, we have to kind of put this into the proper context. And I know that the Republicans
02:02and Democrats are going to seize on the parts of the report that helped their case.
02:07The cherry picking never ends. All right. But let's let's take a macro picture here, a macro look, which is
02:14the Chinese have done this all the time.
02:17There's nothing different about 2020. The thing that was different about 2016 in Russia, as I said, is that Putin
02:24directly authorized an interference operation.
02:28It came from the top. They decided they were going to be active in the election and try to denigrate
02:36Secretary Clinton in in favor of nominee Trump.
02:40OK, that is not what we are seeing in this particular case. We see that the Chinese didn't like Trump
02:46during his first term because he was tough on China.
02:48But again, they decided they Beijing decided not to interfere in that same manner because the cost would outweigh the
02:57benefits for them.
02:58And let me also just say one other thing before I turn it back. Where is the evidence for election
03:05fraud?
03:06As our Republican guest has said, I we've we've done investigation upon investigation.
03:12There is simply little or no evidence of election fraud.
03:17But the president last night was trying to make it a much larger deal than the evidence would suggest.
03:23Why hasn't anybody been prosecuted if there's election fraud?
03:27You know, I haven't seen anything that would tell me that this that this time was different.
03:33And one other thing, why does the president only complain about elections that he loses?
03:38Why was 2024 and 2016 completely secure and safe for elections?
03:45But 2020 was not. I think we all know the reason why 2020 was different.
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