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12:04which is contributing to this culture of narcissism.

12:11We become so reliant on AI that we develop this idea that there's a perfect response

12:18or a perfect way of being or just the right answer.

12:22And I don't know what it is, but AI will know.

12:25So we're constantly then going from our real life relationships

12:28back to AI to try to figure out what the perfect answer is.

12:32And we see this in American teenagers all the time.

12:36More and more teenagers now won't even respond to a text

12:39without first running it by AI and seeing, is this okay?

12:43Or can you fix the wording?

12:45And I think what that does is it slowly erodes our ways of knowing, right?

12:51Our sense that I can look inside and pause and contemplate myself and come up with an answer.

13:00Or even more, I can have a spiritual relationship, right?

13:04I can look to my higher power, however I define that.

13:08I think that all gets eroded as AI becomes our higher power, right?

13:13It's almost godlike in the way that we worship it, rely on it,

13:18and lose our own sense of knowing as we seek perfection through AI.

13:28Well, first of all, I think it's important to acknowledge that there will never be enough

13:34real therapists to treat all the people who might want psychotherapy.

13:39So I don't think it's crazy to think about how we might leverage the technology to do that.

13:47My concern, again, is the substitution of our in-real-life relationships,

13:53whether it's with friends and family or with a real-life therapist,

13:56with an AI chatbot that is ultimately going to tell us more of what we want to hear

14:03than what we don't want to hear. Because if it tells us what we don't want to hear,

14:08we're not going to use it anymore, right? So that is really the danger that the product,

14:14and it is a product, and people should keep that in mind, AI is a product. We may not be

14:19paying for it with money, but we're paying for it with our lived time. And that product ultimately

14:26has one agenda, which is to keep us on it longer. And to do that, it is going to tell

14:33us what we

14:33want to hear. But sometimes the very best therapy tells us exactly what we don't want to hear.

14:43Yeah, I don't know. It depends what door, you know, it depends what door. Because like I said,

14:50you know, we see now individuals who use AI as an informal therapist to try to parse or understand

15:00their real-life interpersonal conflicts. And the result is that those conflicts get worse.

15:06They don't get better, they get worse. Because the AI chatbot basically validates everything the

15:12individual says, and encourages conflict. So what we're seeing in clinical care is people,

15:19for example, in difficult marriages, and every marriage has its conflicts, who then turn to AI

15:25for marriage advice. And often it's some small conflict, not a big deal. But then AI begins to

15:33validate their every idea about what's wrong with the marriage. And they spend more and more time

15:39talking to AI about how terrible the marriage is. And pretty soon they get in their minds that this is

15:45a terrible marriage, they have to leave the marriage, they have to get divorced. When in fact,

15:49when it started out, it was a pretty good marriage. If it were really going to encourage resolution,

15:54it would tell that individual, hey, stop talking to me, and go over and find your spouse, and talk

16:00about this problem directly with your spouse, because that's the only way you're really going to resolve it.

16:09Yeah, so this is, I think, a really important question, you know.

16:14You know, in many ways, AI can be viewed as the collective wisdom of humanity. I mean, it has the

16:23potential for collective wisdom on a mass scale that could be very valuable. But you know, garbage in,

16:32garbage out is the issue. And if we're not inputting wisdom, we're not going to be getting out wisdom.

16:38And if we're not asking for wisdom, we're also not going to get wisdom.

16:42So I think at the end of the day, we would never want to replace AI with true spiritual practices.

16:51Because to my mind, true spiritual practices are something quite different, right? And at the core

16:58of many spiritual practices are also spiritual communities, right? Involving connecting with

17:04other people, with shared values and beliefs, engaging in rituals and prayers. We will live in this

17:10atomized existence where we're all in a different place in our honeycomb, not actually interacting,

17:17but instead having a simulacrum of intimacy with an AI bot.

17:33Yeah, so I mean, the fact that so many Gen Zers would actually pay money if everybody got offline,

17:42this was a study that was done, like really speaks to the ways in which I think more and more

17:47of us

17:47feel trapped in this vortex, the technology where we feel forced to use it, but we know it's not

17:56making us happier in many ways. So I take it as a sign of optimism and hope. Yeah, I mean,

18:03at the end of the day, what humans want more than anything else is to be connected to other humans,

18:09humans to feel that they're part of a tribe. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of death. I'm afraid of being

18:14alone. I'm afraid of being sick. I'm afraid of losing my mind. This is where humans come together.

18:21It's in our shared vulnerability that we make the deep human connections that make life worth living.

18:29And whatever we can do to continue to foster that, then I think we're going to be okay.

18:38Yeah, I mean, I think that's the ultimate question is not, you know, how to get rid of the technology,

18:44but how to have a healthier relationship with the technology, because it's not going away.

18:48And there are a lot of good things. I think the key here is just to continue the dialogue and

18:53honest

18:55appraisal of how it's helping us and how it's harming us, right? And to continue to make alterations

19:02as we go along. First of all, as a writer, it's incredibly tempting to want to get AI. You know,

19:09let's say I'm writing, I'm writing my next book and I'm struggling with, you know, a sentence or

19:14struggling with how to phrase something. It's very tempting to want to go to AI and say, you know,

19:19how would you phrase this or what would you say here? But I don't do that. And the reason I

19:24don't

19:25do that is because number one, I think ultimately the true satisfaction from writing

19:30comes from having come up with it myself, right? That, that burst of creativity that comes often

19:38only after a period of frustration and uncertainty. And then this kind of resolution into creativity

19:45that doesn't even feel like it was me. It feels like it came through me. So as a writer,

19:51I'm very reluctant to use it and use it very, very little.

20:02Ooh, when we let AI do our thinking for us, we really lose our own sense of knowing, right? We,

20:11we,

20:11we lose touch with that deep, intuitive part of ourselves that is processing an amazing number of

20:21stimuli and information. I'm our brains. There's no AI that's ever going to approximate our brains

20:26because we have bodies, we have bodies and bodies experience the world in a way that AI never will.

20:33But as we engage or over engage with AI, we lose that sense of knowing we become detached from our

20:40bodies.

20:40We also are chasing perfectionism, thinking that AI has just the right answer. And we don't

20:46in the age of AI. The one thing that humans must not lose is their own intuitive way of knowing.

20:57Thank you so much for your time and for speaking with us so openly.

21:02Yeah, you're welcome. A great questions. It was really fun.

21:07Could you give us one advice for our Korean viewers?

21:12Yeah. So, um, what, what could my one advice be? Um, so if I had one advice

21:20for Koreans living in this hyper technical, you know, hyper fast, you know, technological age,

21:29it would be take some time out every day to connect with your body, not using a device. So no,

21:35you know, heart, heart rate, uh, measurements or smartwatches, connect with your body, just you

21:42and your body connect with other people around you and connect with nature. Connect with your body,

21:49other people and nature without any technology getting in between.

21:57I think Korea has, I believe you are making a big mistake.

22:01Oh, I love that. We have children under the age of 13. And the world that my students are going

22:07into

22:07now in 2026 is not as hopeful. One of the big reasons for that is AI.

22:19I urge Korea to stop.

22:25Yeah, Korea, Korean people are, um, I have never met a Korean person who wasn't kind and warm.

22:33You're all very, very kind. Do you want me to look at the camera or not?

22:40Bye. Bye Anna.

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