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Even though the return wasn’t great, the guys discuss whether the Celtics will be better next season just by trading away Jaylen Brown.

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00:00the one thing that's going to be very interesting to watch outside of whether or not the Celtics
00:04team the new hot take is that they're actually better now that Jalen Brown is gone I know Ted
00:09that you you think that there's a chance that this team could be better without yes I do I do
00:14I just
00:15look I think there's so many I know there's there's a lot of analytic stuff uh that people
00:21are kind of poo-pooing but there's so much it's almost an overwhelming amount of evidence uh when
00:26it comes to that that would suggest they're going to be a better team so I do think there is
00:30something where it's addition by subtraction I really do and I just you know what I think JB
00:34kind of it's just it was bringing bringing it all down I just look I his attitude did you see
00:41the
00:41pictures Friday of them in Vegas it was Tatum Walsh Kata and Derek White they're just sitting there
00:46courtside I don't know whether it was or somebody said Tatum having the time of his life just a
00:52grinning ear to ear there's something to that I mean it's a basketball team one guy makes a huge
00:56difference and I think if you just kind of remove maybe I don't I mean who's you know Jalen Brown's
01:01a great player but is he really conducive for I don't know cohesiveness and harmony and and you
01:09know where everyone's pulling the same direction if he's pulling a different direction I can see that
01:13being counterproductive and I think that's what we're going to find out is that it was he you know
01:17that it was it's addition by subtraction rich well Ted I think that there's enough basketball reasons to
01:23not be upset that Jalen Brown's no longer on this team the one thing I'm still pissed about is that
01:28they got absolute garbage for him and then that's that's just a a bad prediction on what the market
01:34was it's you not doing your job as a GM correctly in order to drive up the value it's you
01:39showing your
01:40hand maybe too early with the honest trade or not going all in rich can I jump in on this
01:45I gotta jump
01:45in on this because to me I mean what's fascinating is that the reports that are coming out that
01:50Jalen Brown was informed about the him being that they were going to trade him and then he was
01:57consulted about the teams that they were talking to and he was basically saying no I don't want to
02:02play I don't want to go there I don't want to go there he was basically impacting I think the
02:07return
02:07by by being involved in in the in the trading behind the scenes absolutely and I remember when
02:13that Sam Amick article came out in the New York Times where they said that Jimmy Haslam over with the
02:17Bucks the owner of the Bucks had heard some sort of inside information that Jalen would not want to
02:23sign an extension that he would not be happy there you know that that that is obviously exactly what
02:28happened he's submarine the entire thing he somehow got them to know that and if I'm Jalen Brown I do
02:32the exact same thing like if I there's a place I didn't want to be sent I would do the
02:36same deal but
02:36I also think that that's bad on Brad Stevens for having like almost like letting the world know that
02:43we are going to trade you almost do it like you know in the dark sneaky you know like keep
02:48him out
02:48of it so he doesn't do something like that to ruin your trade value but knowing that we what we
02:53know
02:53now that JB was more involved than maybe we first thought doesn't that give you a I don't aren't you
02:58a little bit look at Brad a little differently and be like so he's trying to make Jalen Brown happy
03:04and
03:05look he doesn't want to go to this team he doesn't want to go that team well the teams the
03:08crappy teams
03:09that Braylon Brown doesn't want to go to are the ones with the most assets to get back in return
03:13so I don't think it's him not trying to make Jalen Brown happy I think it's that Brad knows he
03:17can't
03:17make that trade because those other teams won't trade with them they won't trade with them if they
03:21know they're going to get a guy who doesn't want to be there but did you hear did you hear
03:24Kevin
03:24Garnett like he he had a really good answer I thought like he's he's stunned that they sent him
03:30out and in particular to Philadelphia I thought he made a great point it's like you really feel a
03:35certain way about a guy if you sent him to the Philadelphia 76ers that says it all it's true
03:40I think we have that clip I know you're primed to play a different clip but but do you buy
03:44any
03:44chance to have that Kevin Garnett clip because you're right this is interesting especially coming
03:48from a guy like KG who knows these guys very well yeah I'm gonna front man I didn't think first
03:53off
03:54that JB was in a position to be traded I think you know obviously his comments and how he felt
04:01after uh after they was departed from the playoffs was one thing but I didn't think that it caused for
04:06him to be moved you know let's just let's just keep it real man uh the 76ers got better they
04:11not
04:11only got better but they got young stars and if they can put this together yeah Nick Nux has a
04:17really
04:17good team and you still got something with the big fella he doesn't have to be so 100% him
04:22and so
04:22heavy him Tyrese Maxey is a rising star you put him with JB and uh Edgecombe man listen man listen
04:28and then it was in conference so that says something you know that that says like yeah
04:32we want to see y'all two two want to see y'all four times a year we're gonna see
04:35y'all two you know
04:36what I'm saying like to be in conference to trade somebody in conference yeah I I mean and and the
04:43great thing about all of this the one thing that actually makes me somewhat feel better about all of
04:49it is that this could combust like the 76ers that's a weird recipe when you have especially
04:57three guys there who think they're the alpha you've got uh Tyrese Maxey who honestly should
05:03be the man like he should be the guy like on that dude was ready to take over that team
05:08he's the one
05:08guy who you know has been played been playing exceptional basketball consistently on that team
05:14um and then you've got Joel Embiid who feels that he is the alpha and now you've got Jalen Brown
05:20showing
05:20up trying to show the world that oh no he's not the guy that all these analysts were talking about
05:26you know that the Celtics are going to be better without him he should be the number one guy he
05:30should be an alpha and you got three of those together on a loser franchise that loser things
05:35happen to and just there's such a great chance of things imploding yeah but Rich you know the
05:41counter to that is you've got Ugo Gonzalez who went three for 16 Friday night who you wouldn't
05:46include in the honest trade give me the three stars who all think they're alphas and you can have
05:50Ugo Gonzalez well that's why this clip makes it warms my heart uh this is Tracy McGrady and isn't
05:57Tracy McGrady the guy that's a good friend of Jim Brown yeah they're best buddies and Tracy McGrady
06:03it seems like things already haven't started off on the right foot with Jalen Brown and Philadelphia
06:09let's take a listen JB was on a stream the other day and he reached out to Maxey he talked
06:14to Maxey and
06:15he talked to Vijay but he I don't think he hasn't spoken to Embiid yet so and you know they
06:20had their
06:20thing in past years you know personal you know thing going on now they're teammates and I don't
06:28think there's been a conversation between the two at least not to my knowledge I haven't heard anything
06:32on it so that's not a good sign because when you go into a new team and you go into
06:36a team that
06:37this this is the MVP like you've been the MVP for this team now I'm coming to join your team
06:43and we
06:43haven't had a conversation that's I don't like it yeah I don't like that I love it I mean because
06:48we we all trying to we're getting off to a fresh start Joel you're getting off to a fresher start
06:53right and now you add in another MVP along with the young boys that you have to make things easier
07:00for you to make things easier easier for you and there hasn't been any communication as far as my
07:05knowledge oh there's no excuse for that like could you imagine someone like you know SGA getting traded
07:11to the Celtics and and you find out that he's been on the team for a week and a half
07:15and he
07:15hasn't reached out to Jason Tatum well your guy Mitchell Robinson just said he didn't want to leave
07:19New York it was like against his will so that's not great but I hear what you're saying that's a
07:23good point like think about it again Rich think about what Philly fans are thinking the way JB is
07:29going kind of I mean the way he's leaving here is like it makes you think that he'd never wanted
07:33to
07:33leave here and he's mad that he has to leave here he doesn't seem like he's embracing Philly
07:38no well and B's probably pissed at the flop thing right because he said he's a flopper probably so
07:42but if you had 10 grand okay and you had to lay it down I love this Philly or or
07:47Boston who goes
07:47further Boston Boston no I'm putting I'm taking a chance on the Sixers really yep man I just I
07:54think they have they're closer to imploding they are they could implode but they also they have a
07:58high ceiling they do they do higher ceiling if every one of these guys like all of a sudden just
08:04put their stuff you know he goes away and and just play for each other which I can't imagine
08:10him be doing I can't imagine Jalen Brown doing and you got Tyrese Maxey who's you know wants to be
08:14the
08:14man so I think they're all on different levels and when they all want different things I think it's
08:18gonna I think they're gonna implode I am guessing that they are how good you feel about Missoula and
08:22Ron Harper jr and Ugo you know what here's I think they're not gonna have as many regular season wins
08:28but they'll go to at least the second round of the playoffs next year yep Ted I agree I listen
08:33I I'm
08:34still pissed that they got trash for uh Jalen Brown as a matter of fact I was telling Ted or
08:40I was
08:40telling Ken this last week every time I imagine the 26 27 Boston Celtics I don't even think about
08:46Paul George he's not even on the team like I just imagine him like not even playing like a non
08:50-factor
08:51but when I think about what they did do you know getting Mitchell Robinson and getting Mike Conley Jr.
08:56who's like an older veteran which are two positions or two different things that we said that this team
09:02needed a vet kind of a guy like Al Horford who can kind of be the the calming presence in
09:06the room
09:06and somebody uh who is a real big and Mitchell Robinson is that I think that this is a team
09:12that's cleaner
09:13than the Sixers are that has better defined roles you know who the man is Jason Tatum no longer there's
09:21no
09:21any question who the guy is and I think that Jason Tatum is going to have a year like Jalen
09:27Brown had last year
09:28where he's going to reach a new level which is scary because he's already great as long as he's healthy
09:33um but I agree I just think that this is a cleaner team uh I think that it is a
09:39team that's more poised to win
09:41and be cohesive and that Sixers team it is going to be so funny because they're going to be unbelievable
09:47for the first two months your mind's going to be blown and then something's going to happen in
09:51December or January that's going to make a really just almost a turn on each other
09:56and then
09:56you
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