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00:00now but the christian argues why is so difficult for us to believe in it like everything has three
00:08dimensions like a left side of the person the right side of the person in the front there are
00:15three different aspects aspects of the same thing another christian analogy was given he says you
00:22see you have three cups of water three cups of water and you put them into one bigger cup
00:28so it's all one water yeah you see the same when you say the father you think of the son
00:33and you say the son you think of the holy ghost when you say the holy ghost you think of
00:36the father
00:37when you say your husband you think of your son and what's wrong with you
00:49an usual and common analogy occurred by the christians was asked by this young muslim lady
00:54to shake deed at it is about the efforts of christians to reconcile the basis of their faith
00:59the trinity which is often done when christians try to convince muslims about the figures of the father
01:05son and holy spirit the lady is asking yes
01:11assalamu alaikum i wanted to ask you a question about concerning the holy trinity
01:20the father the son and the world i know we don't believe in it
01:30now but the christian argues why is so difficult for us to believe in it like everything has three
01:39dimensions like left side of the person the right side of the person in the front there are three
01:46different aspects aspects of the same thing i know it's wrong but uh what do i say what's the answer
01:55to this so there's three different aspects of the same thing right let us see now what they say
02:06you see i had a phone call this afternoon a mrs fernandez mrs fernandez she says last night she
02:14saw that tv program of mine and whole night she couldn't sleep
02:22so i'm asking her what did i say that you take exception to
02:28so she said you said i can't remember but she said i'm not denying it she said i said that
02:36the christians
02:37are worshiping jesus as god that's what i had said supposed to have said i can't remember what i said
02:44but she said and i'm prepared to agree that i could have said that that the christians are
02:48worshiping jesus as god that he is their god so she says no he is not god he is only
02:54a prophet of god
02:55like muhammad so i said look there's no problem then between you and me there is no problem because
03:01we also believe that jesus was a mighty messenger of god not just a prophet but a great prophet
03:07like muhammad but i said what church do you belong to so she said she is a roman catholic
03:15so i said look if you are a roman catholic then you believe in the holy trinity
03:21so she said yes see without knowing that you can't argue with people she says you are attributing to
03:28christians that we say jesus is god and he says jesus is not god that means i said look what
03:35church she
03:36said roman catholic i said if you are a roman catholic i said that means you believe in the
03:41holy trinity she said yes so i said in your catechism in your book of instructions it says
03:48that the father is god the son is god and the holy ghost is god but they are not three
03:54gods but one god
03:55i said is that right she said yes i said your book continues your catechism it says the father is
04:01almighty
04:02the son is almighty and the holy ghost is almighty but they are not three almighty is but one almighty
04:08is that what he says she said yes i said it continues the father is a person the son is
04:14a
04:14person and the holy ghost is a person but they are not three person but one person does he say
04:19that
04:20she said yes so that is what i'm telling you that look this is this is most nonsensical thing you
04:28are
04:28saying person person person but not three person but one person what language is that that's not english
04:38can you see it's very easy just to say bamboozle people you see look we get bamboozled you know we
04:45get bluff the person is speaking english and she's speaking meticulous english this lady
04:52she's speaking beautiful english you know she's got control over the language but now when i'm asking
04:57a simple basic question person person person but you say not three persons but one person
05:05does it make sense does it make sense no it doesn't so you say you believe that the father is
05:12there
05:13the son is there and the holy ghost is there they believe that at the beginning which had no beginning
05:19you know at the very beginning when allah before he created anything the father was there the son was
05:25there and the holy ghost was there as the harmony were there no no your mind what does your mind
05:31say
05:32you say the father was there the son was there and the holy ghost was there they are co-equal
05:38and co-eternal
05:39see once you know what they are talking about they say they are co-equal means there's no superiority
05:45of one over the other and they are co-eternal at the beginning which had no beginning they were all
05:50there i said how many were there three can you see that three so i said you believe in three
05:57gods you
05:57don't know i believe in one god so the thing is this now we we can just talk you know
06:04so now somehow
06:06another christian analogy was given it says you see you have three cups of water
06:11three cups of water and you put them into one bigger cup so it's all one water so they watered
06:18down the trinity they watered it down now look the father the father when they say in the name of
06:25the
06:25father and the son and the holy ghost this is the formula this is the formula of faith in the
06:32name of the
06:32father and the son and the holy ghost when you say that when you repeat that how many pictures
06:41you see in your head say i asked this christian was talking to you say look when you say in
06:48the
06:48name of the father are you thinking of the son and when you say and the son are you thinking
06:52of the
06:53holy ghost no unless the mind is twisted is diseased you can say yeah you see the same when you
06:59say the
06:59father you think of the son and you say the sun you think of the holy ghost when you say
07:03the holy
07:03ghost you think of the father when you say your husband you think of your son i mean what's wrong
07:08with you look the thing is now when words when you use that father father looks different in your mind
07:15son looks different in your mind the holy ghost looks different in your mind and they can you can
07:21never superimpose these three mental pictures and create one there'll ever be three in your mind
07:25So this is a fallacy
07:28And Allah tells us
07:29Very simple language
07:30He says
07:33Don't say trinity
07:36This is stop it
07:37It will be better for you
07:39For your Allah is one Allah
07:40He is not three in one
07:42He is not one in three
07:42And this trinity is nowhere in the Bible
07:46Is nowhere in his Bible
07:48Whether Roman Catholic or Protestant
07:50The word trinity
07:52You will never find
07:53In any Bible in the world
07:56The word trinity
07:57This is the foundation of Christianity
07:59That word you will never find
08:01In any Bible in the world
08:04Amazing
08:08So they say
08:09We believe what we want to believe
08:11I say you have the privilege
08:13That's your privilege
08:14You can deny God if you like
08:16Allah gives you that privilege
08:17There is one thing he will not control
08:19Is your mind
08:20He gives you freedom
08:21Think as you like
08:22You want to abuse him
08:23You can swear in
08:23Go ahead
08:24He gives you that freedom
08:25But it is the most nonsensical idea
08:28Father, Son and Holy Ghost
08:30Put together
08:31Are not three but one
08:33Yes, Chacha
08:34Yes, my question is
08:36That how do we know
08:37That the Prophet
08:37Is a real messenger of God
08:39Instead of
08:40A self-created image
08:41Before the people
08:43The self-created image
08:45Before the people
08:46What are you referring to?
08:47Just like you know
08:48All the prophets
08:49That you see
08:50I mean there was nothing
08:51To prove that they were right
08:53Except for that
08:54What they said
08:54That they were right
08:55Right?
08:56No, not right
08:57You see
08:59That's not right
09:00Okay
09:01We believe
09:02That God Almighty
09:04Appoints his messengers
09:05Right
09:07And in that system
09:08Of appointing prophets
09:09We have so many names
09:11Given to us
09:12In the Bible
09:13As well as in the Quran
09:14We believe
09:15That Hazard Musa
09:17Moses
09:18Was appointed by God
09:20Correct
09:20Dawud
09:21By God
09:22Suleiman
09:23By God
09:25Isa
09:25By God
09:27The Holy Prophet
09:27Muhammad
09:28By God
09:29So they were appointed
09:31By God
09:32They didn't make themselves
09:33Into prophets
09:34That is
09:35Now look
09:35I think I have qualified
09:37Now I have been to a university
09:38Or a Darul Uloom
09:40And now today
09:40I can claim to be a prophet
09:41That wasn't so
09:43You see
09:43That is not the system
09:44The system is
09:45God appoints
09:46His messengers
09:47So in that system
09:49Every nation
09:50Has had a prophet
09:51Says the Holy Quran
09:53وَإِمِّن أُمَّةٍ إِلَّا خَلَى
09:55فِيهَا نَصِيرٍ
09:56And there never was a people
09:58Without a warner
09:59Having been sent amongst them
10:01وَلَكُلِّ قَوْمٍ حَادٍ
10:03And to every nation
10:04A guide
10:05A guide
10:06A warner
10:07Has been sent to all peoples
10:09But now
10:10When this messenger of God comes
10:12One certificate he has
10:14Is that he has got no selfishness
10:16He is not doing things
10:18He is not teaching things
10:19So he can benefit from them
10:20In any way materially
10:22He is interested in the welfare
10:25But mankind has a tendency
10:27To create legends around
10:30These personalities
10:33And had it not been for the Holy Quran
10:36Testifying and verifying
10:37That some of these personalities
10:39Mentioned in the Christian Bible
10:41Whom we accept as the messengers of God
10:44Like
10:45Hazard Dawud
10:46The Holy Prophet David
10:47Hazard Suleiman
10:49The Holy Prophet Solomon
10:51When we look at these prophets
10:53And Lut
10:53The Prophet Lord
10:55We accept them
10:56As God's messengers
10:58And we as Muslims
10:59We believe that they were sinless
11:02They were sinless
11:04All the prophets
11:05Wherever they came
11:06Because if God Almighty chooses
11:08His representative
11:09If I choose my representative
11:11In my material welfare
11:13In my businesses
11:14I look for a perfect person
11:16That I can get
11:17Honest person
11:18Upright person
11:19Hardworking person
11:20If God Almighty chooses
11:22He is going to choose
11:23The most moral of people
11:24So
11:25Now that is the principle
11:27The Muslim accepts
11:28That every nation
11:29Has had a prophet
11:30And every prophet was sinless
11:34Now when we read
11:35The stories woven around the prophets
11:39If it was not for the Quran
11:41Testifying
11:41About the veracity
11:43We Muslims would never accept them
11:45Like for example
11:46Lut
11:47The Prophet
11:48According to the Jewish record
11:51The Bible
11:52The Christian Bible
11:54Lut
11:54Committed
11:55With his daughters
11:56Night after night
11:57You know that
11:58Do you know that
12:00No
12:00But suppose now
12:02People tell you
12:03That Lut
12:04Was a messenger of God
12:05Allah saved him
12:06You know
12:07From that destruction
12:08What he destroyed his people
12:09In Gomera
12:11But this man
12:12Who was saved
12:13From that destruction
12:14He goes and
12:15Cohibits him
12:15With his daughters
12:16Night after night
12:16Would you accept him
12:17As a prophet
12:18No
12:19No
12:19Can you say that
12:20But because the Quran
12:21Says they are sinless
12:22We say these are stories
12:24Concocted around
12:25The messengers of God
12:26Hazard Dawud
12:28The holy prophet David
12:31According to the Bible
12:32He sees
12:33Bathsheba
12:34Somebody else's wife
12:35You know
12:36From his palace roof
12:37He sees
12:38Somewhere on another roof
12:39Lower down
12:40A woman
12:40Bathing naked
12:41And she was
12:42Very beautiful
12:43To look at
12:44So
12:45He is enamored
12:46By her
12:46So he sends
12:47His secretary
12:48His ministers
12:49To go
12:49Bring that certain woman
12:50And
12:51He finds out
12:52That she was menstruating
12:53He says
12:54Look
12:54When you cleanse yourself
12:55Then he cohibits with her
12:57And after some time
12:58She comes and reports
12:59Look I am carrying your baby
13:01In the meantime
13:02The husband of this woman
13:03Is at war
13:04With the Palestinians
13:05The Philistines
13:08So
13:09Hazard Dawud
13:10Has that man called
13:12According to the Bible
13:13This is all what I am reading
13:14From the Bible
13:15He has that man called
13:17Uriah by name
13:18That is also in the Bible
13:20Uriah
13:20He calls him
13:21And you know
13:22He says
13:22Look man
13:23He makes him drunk
13:24And feeds him
13:24Thinking that this guy
13:26After all that
13:27Night of you know
13:28Eating and drinking
13:29He will go back to his house
13:31And probably
13:32He will sleep with his wife
13:33So
13:34It will be made known
13:35That look
13:35This child that this woman
13:36Is carrying
13:37Is from her husband
13:38But this Uriah
13:39This officer
13:40Was so good
13:42He was so conscientious
13:44A soldier of Israel
13:45That he wouldn't go home
13:47He said
13:48My companions are out
13:49In the field
13:49They are dying
13:50And me I am going to enjoy
13:50With my wife
13:51He said
13:51Never
13:52So
13:53He stayed behind
13:54At the palace
13:55He wouldn't go to his own house
13:56So now what to do
13:57Because sooner or later
13:59They are going to discover
14:00That Uriah is away
14:01For a long time
14:01And his wife
14:02Is now carrying a baby
14:03The rumor will go out
14:04That this child
14:05Is an illegitimate child
14:07And then they will want
14:08To know who
14:09Who
14:09Who
14:09And a finger
14:11Might be pointed to David
14:12He said
14:12David is responsible
14:13For her condition
14:15So
14:16According to the Bible
14:18Hazrat Dawud
14:18He writes a letter
14:20Seals it
14:21And gives it to Uriah
14:22He said
14:22Give it to your commander
14:23Hira
14:23Hira
14:24And in the letter
14:25He wrote
14:26Put this guy
14:27In the thickest of battle
14:28That he can't come out alive
14:30And so he does
14:31And the man dies
14:32He's killed
14:33So
14:34Hazrat Dawud
14:35According to the Bible
14:36Was an adulterer
14:38Fornicator
14:39Haram
14:41Hurikara Nawala
14:42And a murderer
14:42Now such a man
14:44Will you accept him
14:45As a prophet of God
14:46He says
14:47No
14:47But you see
14:48Because the Quran
14:49Testifies that
14:49All the prophets
14:50Are sinless
14:51We said
14:52Look
14:52These are the stories
14:53Of the Jews
14:53Against their own people
14:55Suleiman
14:55He had 1000 wives
14:57And concubines
14:57In his old age
14:58He made a temple
14:59For the worship of idols
15:00Will you accept
15:01Such a man as a prophet
15:02No
15:03Can you see that
15:04Hazrat Isa
15:05He insulted his mother
15:08He insulted the elders
15:09Of his people
15:10Will you accept him
15:11As a man of God
15:12And the Bible says
15:13He says
15:13He says
15:14He's described
15:15As a gluttonous eater
15:16And a winebibber
15:17Pitta
15:18The Bible says that
15:19Will you accept him
15:20Another prophet of God
15:21He says
15:22No
15:23So we said
15:24Look
15:24These are the legends
15:25Created around people
15:26Similar thing
15:27Could have happened
15:28To the Hindu heroes
15:29It could have happened
15:30They were good people
15:30But the legends
15:31That have grown
15:32We will reject them
15:33Reject them
15:34So we accept
15:35Those that I mentioned
15:36In the Quran
15:36As prophets
15:37And sinners
15:38But the principle
15:39We accept
15:39That every nation
15:40Has had a prophet
15:41And these prophets
15:42Before our Nabi
15:43Our Nabi
15:44Is Khatamun Nabi
15:44He's the last of the prophets
15:46There shall be no prophet
15:47After him
15:47There shall be no Nab
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