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00:00As Professor Van Ruyst stated clearly in the beginning, each verse in the Bible can be compared with the rest
00:07of the Bible.
00:08If one doesn't do that, one tends to get away from the main subject.
00:16So you see, simple direct translation. Simple direct translation, you are blanking it.
00:24Nobody has a right to do it.
00:25So I think it's quite correct that that specific verse in 1 John 5, 7 was omitted from the New
00:32West translation
00:32because that one was probably just a marginal note that went into the manuscript.
00:38And many Christians, I think, would be sorry that that's not in the Bible anymore,
00:43or not part of the original because that's the many clear expression of the idea of the Trinity.
00:55An unusual moment occurred in the debate between Shaikh Didat and Professor Van Ruy entitled, Islam and Christianity.
01:02Where'd a Christian professor had to admit that the Bible had indeed been corrupted?
01:10Good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
01:13Professor, there's just one slight misconception that I've got to clarify to occur during your speech.
01:18You happen to say that the reason Mr. Didat studies the Bible probably is because he'd like to attack its
01:24content.
01:26We Muslims are taught to study the Bible just to see where we differ from the Christians and just to
01:35see where we are on the same line with you.
01:38So there's one misconception I'd just like to clarify.
01:41In that same light, the question of the Trinity.
01:45We Muslims believe that during the passage of time, the Bible has been interpolated.
01:50The work of man has interpolated the Bible.
01:54And in that regard, I'd just like to refer you to the King James Version of the Bible,
02:01which the Revised Version of the Bible is now used as a basis to modernize, so to speak, the King
02:10James Version of the Bible.
02:11In the King James Version of the Bible, the first epistle of John, chapter 5, verse 7,
02:16adds the following verse,
02:19For there are three that bear a cord in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost.
02:25And these three are one.
02:28Unfortunately, in the Revised Standard Version of the Bible, this verse has been omitted.
02:33So, the question that I'd like to know, the churches of the King James Version of the Bible, do they
02:39preach this verse?
02:40And does the Church of the Revised Standard Version of the Bible not preach this verse?
02:46It seems to be a contradiction.
02:48We don't have the original text of the Bible anymore.
02:52And what happened is that the original text was copied by people, and those copies were handed down.
03:00And sometimes, as many of us do, you make a note.
03:04When you read a book, you make a note.
03:06But those were handwritten manuscripts.
03:08So, somebody at some stage made a handwritten note in the margin.
03:13And the next person copying, he thought, well, that's perhaps not a marginal note, but something that belongs in the
03:22text.
03:22So, he said, when he copied it, he wrote it into the text.
03:25So, that specific verse probably got into some of the later texts by mistake.
03:32But nowadays, we have very, well, fairly accurate, very accurate standard editions of the text of the Old and the
03:42New Testament.
03:43And, for example, this Good News Bible, the New African Translation of 1983, used the newest standard manuscript of the
03:53New Testament that we have.
03:55So, that I think it's quite correct that that specific verse, in the 1 John 5, 7, was omitted from
04:02the newest translation, because that one was probably just a marginal note that crept into the manuscript.
04:07But that kind of problem affects less than 1% of the total of the Bible.
04:14So, you have just one, that's perhaps the most important one.
04:18And many Christians, I think, would be sorry that that's not in the Bible anymore, or not part of the
04:24original, because that's the very clear expression of the idea of the Trinity.
04:28But one must add to that, that specific marginal note can already be seen in, not very old Greek manuscripts,
04:37but in Latin manuscripts from about the 3rd century AD.
04:41So, that, the idea of the Trinity is indeed a very old one, where that kind of formulation is used.
04:48It's a very old one in the Christian Church.
04:52Thank you, Mr. Dita.
04:53Thank you, Mr. Dita.
04:53Can we ask the gentleman on the left-hand side?
04:56Yes, Mr. Dita, often refer to why the parting of ways between Islam and the Christian faith.
05:06I think I've got a very simple question, a simple answer for that, and I would like Mr. Dita, please,
05:13to comment on that.
05:17You know, that Jesus said in John 14, verse 6, He says,
05:24I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one goes to the Father except by Me.
05:30And what actually drew my attention during the whole speech of Mr. Dita's was that he really referred that Islam
05:42really accepted Jesus Christ as a prophet or as a man.
05:48He referred to the miraculous birth of Jesus Christ and all that.
05:53And further on, during his speech, he said, sorry, I would just...
05:57Sorry, sir, could you please be brief, Father?
05:58Yes, yes, I would like to be brief, but he said, there's no difference between the teachings of Muhammad, Moses,
06:05and Jesus.
06:07Thank you, Mr. Dita.
06:23You see, you didn't quote me fully when I said that in the fundamentals of the teachings of Moses, Jesus,
06:31and Muhammad, there is not an iota of difference.
06:35Mark my words, I said, in the fundamentals of the teachings of these three, there is no difference at all.
06:40That's what I said.
06:41Now, with regards to the quotation, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth, and the life.
06:46No man cometh unto the Father but by Me. I accept that.
06:51You see, the Jews, they wanted another way. Their own way.
06:57They wanted this man of God, the Messiah, to make them masters of the world.
07:01Save them, free them from the Roman context.
07:03He said, look, I haven't come to do that.
07:06If you want to know the will and plan of God, I, as God's representative, as His messenger, you have
07:12to listen to Me.
07:13There is no other way. And I accept every word of that, every phrase.
07:18But in the time of Moses, who was the way to God? Jesus? Muhammad? No. It was Moses.
07:27You see, the children of Israel, they chose another way through the golden calf.
07:32God didn't like it. God didn't want it. It's a kill of all.
07:35And they killed one another. Twenty-three thousand Jews were killed in one day.
07:40For what? For worshipping the golden calf. That was another way.
07:44If you want, in the time of Moses, the way to God, you had to go through Moses.
07:49In the time of David, David was the way to God. In the time of Solomon, Solomon was the way
07:53to God.
07:54In the dispensation of every prophet, their respective prophet is the way to God.
07:59If you want to know God's will, you have to go through the prophet.
08:03In the time of Jesus, Jesus was the way to God.
08:06In the time of Muhammad, Muhammad is the way to God.
08:09So this is the law of God that He sends His messengers and through them you find out God's will.
08:16He is telling you that the way to God is personified in me.
08:20True life is personified in me. Truth is personified in me.
08:24Look at me. If you look at me and follow me, you will be in God's good pleasures.
08:29You will be according to God's will.
08:31Thank you, Mr. Didat.
08:32Yes, I would like to put a question to Mr. Didat again on the divinity of Jesus.
08:39In John 1, verse 1, we read,
08:43Before the world was created, the Word already existed.
08:48He was with God and He was the same as God.
08:53And then in verse 14 again, the word, Word is qualified by,
09:01The Word became a human being and full of grace and truth lived among us.
09:09We saw His glory, the glory which He received as the Father's only Son.
09:15And then in verse 15, John spoke about Him.
09:19He cried out, This is not the one I was talking about when I said,
09:24He comes after me.
09:25But He is greater than I am because He existed before I was born.
09:35How do you interpret this?
09:38Is this not the clear indication that Jesus Christ is God?
09:47If you remember my words, I said,
09:52Jesus Christ, no way, not in any Bible, did He ever say at any time,
09:59I am God or worship me.
10:02And that what you are quoting is now,
10:04but this author, whoever he was, called John,
10:08these are supposed to be his words.
10:09And the translation that you are using
10:13is quite a different translation from the King James Version,
10:16or I think even the Good News Bible.
10:18I don't know what translation are you using there?
10:20What's the translation that you have in your hand?
10:23It's the Good News.
10:25Oh, it's the Good News. Right.
10:27So it's the Good News Bible.
10:28So, in other words, now, this is a paraphrase.
10:32This is not the actual wordings from the Greek,
10:36because the King James would be nearest,
10:38the Revised Standard Version would be the nearest.
10:40This is more for preaching purposes.
10:42They have used the terminology that they have read.
10:45But when you read those terms,
10:47in Arche enologos,
10:50chiologos en proston theon, chiologos en otheos.
10:54That means the word was God.
10:58It's even better in the Greek.
11:00Right, right.
11:01Now the word was theos, what was it?
11:03Theos, what was it then?
11:05Or logos.
11:05Or logos.
11:06Logos.
11:07And otheos.
11:08Right.
11:09So now, if you read that again,
11:121st John, chapter 1, verse 1.
11:13It says, in the beginning, no, what is that?
11:17In the beginning was the word,
11:19and the word was with God.
11:22What is the Greek word there for God?
11:24Theos.
11:25Hotios.
11:26The God.
11:27And that is, you have a capital G there.
11:31And that, the word was God,
11:34that is tontios.
11:37The word there is tontios, means a god.
11:40Now a god, it should have a small g.
11:44You see, that this is the system of the western languages,
11:47that when you have a proper noun, proper name,
11:50you put a capital letter,
11:52and when you have a common noun,
11:54you put a small letter.
11:55Am I right?
11:55This is the system that the western nations,
11:58whether Afrikaner, or English, or German, you use.
12:02That's your system.
12:03Now, hothios is the god,
12:05so you got a capital G.
12:08Tontios means a god,
12:09and you again have a capital G.
12:11But ton is only the accuser to this letter.
12:14Well, hothios is the nominator.
12:16That's right.
12:17When ho is tont,
12:19ton is a,
12:20then in 2 Corinthians 4.4,
12:23That's not true.
12:242 Corinthians 4.4,
12:26it says there,
12:28that the devil is the god of this world.
12:322 Corinthians 4.4,
12:35that devil is the god of this world.
12:38It is hothios.
12:40If it is hothios in verse 1 of John,
12:44and you put a capital G,
12:45why do you put a small g there,
12:48for the devil?
12:50No, no, no.
12:50To open your good news Bible,
12:52you find that there is a small g for the devil,
12:54when it is hothios.
12:56Why do you play that game,
12:58of changing these letters,
13:00to say God, God,
13:01because in the language of the Bible,
13:04if you remember,
13:05God Almighty told Moses,
13:07that behold,
13:08I have made you a God to Pharaoh.
13:11The word is God.
13:13I have made you a God to Pharaoh,
13:16and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.
13:17Why?
13:18The word God for Moses,
13:20is a small g.
13:22Which again,
13:23is hothios in Greece.
13:25Why will you give Moses a small g,
13:27and when it comes from the world,
13:29you put a capital G?
13:30Yes.
13:30We can do that because,
13:32as Professor Van Ruyse stated,
13:34clearly in the beginning,
13:37we don't study the Bible,
13:39only verse,
13:40each verse in itself.
13:43We compare the whole Bible.
13:45Each verse in the Bible can be compared
13:47with the rest of the Bible.
13:49If one doesn't do that,
13:50one tends to get away from the main subject,
13:57the main direction in which the Bible takes us.
14:00So you see,
14:01simple direct translation.
14:04Simple direct translation,
14:06you are playing games.
14:08Nobody has a right to do it.
14:09Nobody,
14:10if a simple direct translation hothios,
14:13means the God,
14:14for the devil,
14:15you must give him a capital G,
14:17according to your system.
14:18You see,
14:19you must follow a system,
14:21on a system of translation.
14:23When,
14:23if it is used for a word,
14:25you put a capital letter,
14:27it is used for the devil,
14:28you put a small g,
14:29it is used for Moses,
14:31you put a small g,
14:32that means now,
14:33you are translating with a subjective mind.
14:36You are trying to prove your case,
14:38exactly as the Jehovah's Witnesses are doing.
14:41You see that,
14:41nobody has a right,
14:43see,
14:43every church or denomination,
14:45according to their beliefs,
14:47they are doing the translations.
14:48Therefore,
14:49you will not accept the New World Translation.
14:51I wonder why.
14:53Because to me,
14:54it might be more objective.
14:55You say,
14:55no, no, no, no, no.
14:56These are the Jehovah's Witnesses,
14:57and they have a particular point of view,
14:59that they want to prove.
15:00So,
15:01you are also trying to do the very same thing.
15:03You see,
15:03at the back of the mind,
15:04you have the Holy Trinity.
15:06So,
15:07somehow,
15:07you must prove your case.
15:09So,
15:09you are saying,
15:10you are looking at the whole Bible,
15:11but with the theology at the back of the mind,
15:13what you are out to prove.
15:14You are not translating,
15:16sincerely,
15:17objectively,
15:18the words that are there.
15:20I think,
15:21the verses in John 1,
15:23John chapter 1,
15:25is clear,
15:26and cannot be misinterpreted.
15:28I cannot read into it,
15:30something which I had,
15:31which I have in my life.
15:33It comes from itself,
15:34and it's very clear.
15:36And I can see no difference between
15:37all theos and the top theon.
15:40Thank you, sir.
15:47This is a term,
15:48it's very, very easy to say,
15:49that I see no difference.
15:51But,
15:51if these words were inspired,
15:53by the Holy Spirit,
15:54then surely,
15:55the Holy Spirit knew the difference
15:56between these two words.
15:58Yeah.
15:58Between a non-text.
15:59Hothiost,
16:00and frontiost.
16:01Otherwise,
16:01you won't be just using it for variation,
16:03for the sake of variation.
16:05I don't.
16:10There.
16:10There.
16:10There.
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