Panthers Becoming NHL Villains; Tyler Herro says goodbye

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00:00So there's a ton going on.

00:01By the way, one of the things I said at the beginning of the show

00:03that I had missed was Brady Kachuk and Sergei Bobrovsky

00:06and all the stuff that happened with the heat.

00:09Just got an email from our friends over at BetOnline.

00:14The new Stanley Cup champion odds are out for next season,

00:19and the Florida Panthers are the favorites, according to Vegas,

00:23to win the Stanley Cup.

00:25Now, their moves, while I believe Sergei Bobrovsky deserved better

00:30than what he got from the Panthers,

00:32their moves have been spectacular this offseason.

00:37That is, I mean, lines one through four, right?

00:41I mean, this is a murderer's row of killer hockey players.

00:48The Kachuk brothers, Goudis, like we got some dogs on this team right now.

00:52This is, like, this team is assembled to never pull a pitcher

01:00who was throwing a perfect game through seven.

01:04This is a man's squad.

01:06This is a play-through-anything squad.

01:10Clayton McCullough can't go near the Ameren Bank Arena.

01:14I know they don't fly commercial, but if they did,

01:17they could win any fight in the terminal.

01:20I believe they are so tough, they are walking to every game this coming season.

01:27They're just walking.

01:29It doesn't matter if it's Anaheim or Vancouver.

01:32They are walking.

01:34We got action.

01:35And it makes them even more hated.

01:38Like, the Panthers were already hated,

01:40and I think we all kind of embraced that.

01:42Like, we were the D-bags of the NHL with Matthew Kachuk.

01:45Now you're adding the other Kachuk, who also kind of carries some baggage

01:49in terms of maybe a 30 hit here or there.

01:52It's hockey, man.

01:53It's just hockey.

01:54Like, we are once again targets.

01:57Did he throw Radko Goudis back in there, the butcher?

02:00Yep.

02:00Let's go.

02:02We got a squad.

02:05And we know how the coach coaches.

02:07He coaches the cross check.

02:09He coaches that.

02:10Bro, I'm excited about this.

02:11This is going to be a nasty little team.

02:13This is going to be a nasty team.

02:16Very excited.

02:17Anyway, they're the favorites.

02:18They're 7-1 to win the Stanley Cup.

02:20Carolina, 15-2.

02:23Colorado, 15-2.

02:25Edmonton and Vegas, 10-1.

02:28Tampa, 11-1.

02:29All right, let's do headlines.

02:31We have so much to talk about.

02:32There's so much going on.

02:33Headlines with Solana brought to you by Darrell Kia in Miami

02:36at a Domino's game.

02:37You'll find your abuelito.

02:39When you want a low price, you save with your pricito.

02:42Save now with your pricito at Darrell Kia.

02:44Hawk, you mentioned just because you're talking about the Panthers,

02:46you felt like Bobrovsky got de-weighted to Chicago.

02:50So you didn't like the decision to not bring back

02:53Sergey Bobrovsky because it sounded like there were intense conversations

02:58between the two sides over a very long period of time.

03:01And they maybe just ultimately couldn't get that third year finalized.

03:05From what I understand, and I may have some inside info here,

03:11Sergey Bobrovsky, his agent, overplayed their hand with him,

03:16thinking that, hey, we're going to squeeze more money out of the Panthers.

03:20And the Panthers had a line, and from what I understand,

03:24at some point they said, well, go get it then.

03:32Instead of negotiating with him, it was go get it then.

03:36And then who'd they sign?

03:37Markstrom?

03:38They went out.

03:39They signed Markstrom, which is how Sergey Bobrovsky essentially finds out

03:43that he's no longer going to be part of the Panthers.

03:46His intentions, you saw his interviews, right, in Toronto?

03:50Like, his intentions were to stay in Florida.

03:53He didn't want to go anywhere.

03:54Do you remember when he first got here?

03:56Remember how difficult that first season was?

03:58And he said afterwards, he's a man, like, you know,

04:04we would see him on the ice, and he was robotic in the way

04:07that he would prepare for games and prepare pregame and stuff.

04:12And I don't think he wanted to go through moving cities again.

04:16Remember, he was very open and honest about how difficult it was

04:19for him to move down here without his family

04:21and to try to get acclimated.

04:23And those first couple seasons were very rough.

04:25I don't think he had any desire to do that again.

04:28And obviously, you don't want to leave a winning organization again.

04:31And this goes back to the Uri Perez decision.

04:34I understand both sides.

04:37I understand his value was diminished.

04:41I understand that his play was diminished.

04:43And I understand that probably the correct hockey decision

04:47was to move on from him.

04:50But I can still disagree with that while understanding it.

04:55And I felt that way about Dwayne Wade,

04:58where, you know, they coveted Hassan Whiteside,

05:03his signature more than Dwayne Wade's that offseason.

05:07And he was hurt by it and ended up getting burnt by it.

05:12And I think that Sergei Bobrovsky deserved better than,

05:16well, hey, go get it elsewhere.

05:18You ain't getting it here.

05:20Well, Hawk, you bring up Wade.

05:22Wade, we missed you, Hawk.

05:24We love you.

05:25Eek, Lib, a deek.

05:27I trust Riley's basketball decisions over yours.

05:30I trust Bill Zito's hockey decisions over yours.

05:34That's what they have to do.

05:35Three for 21 is what Bob signed for, right?

05:38Seven a year.

05:39They didn't want to give him seven.

05:40And like you said, I don't know how far they were away,

05:42but they put their foot in the dirt.

05:44I almost respect it out of Bill Zito for putting his foot in the dirt.

05:47Yeah, again, I understand it.

05:49And obviously they know more.

05:50Although I would tell you that Riley probably regrets that

05:53as one of his biggest missteps during his tenure,

05:57letting that go on with Dwayne the way that it went on.

06:00But I just think that Sergei Bobrovsky has been such a big part

06:05of what the Panthers have done that maybe he deserved,

06:09hey, we're on the phone with Markstrom.

06:13This is going to happen.

06:15This is your last chance.

06:16And, you know, again, whether he would have acquiesced

06:20and taken less, I don't know.

06:23I'm just a little hurt.

06:25I was hurt when Dwayne Wade left for Chicago,

06:28and I'm hurt that Sergei Bobrovsky ended up having to leave for Toronto.

06:36The Giannis Antetokounmpo trade, along with Bobby Portis,

06:40is officially official.

06:42It's been announced on both sides.

06:44Giannis had a really classy goodbye video for the entire city of Milwaukee.

06:50And Buck's ownership, I thought, put out a very classy message from the owner himself

06:56about Giannis and what he meant to that city and that organization.

07:00It kind of felt like the two sides were heading towards, like, that really ugly separation.

07:05And maybe behind the scenes it was ugly, but surface level, it seems like an amicable split.

07:12Yep.

07:13Tyler Hero has also posted a video now in the past hour.

07:18It's a pretty long video, his best moments in Miami, and then, like, a long message to the city of

07:24Miami.

07:25I'll just read you a little bit.

07:26Seven years, it's hard to put into words what this city has meant to me.

07:30It gave me a place to grow up.

07:32This city gave me more than a basketball career.

07:35I became a man here.

07:36I became a father here.

07:37I built lifelong relationships here.

07:39Miami became home.

07:40He thanked Spoh, Pat, Mickey, the entire organization, the fans.

07:45He said, Miami didn't just shape my career, shape my life.

07:48Thank you for everything.

07:50Hawk, while you were gone last week, there were some screenshots of Tyler Hero

07:58seemingly taking shots at Bam Adebayo on the way out.

08:02So, a lot of Heat fans were very upset with Tyler Hero.

08:05I just wonder what you guys think, how he'll be remembered, you know, a decade from now

08:09when you think back to his Heat career.

08:12I think Tyler was a great ball player.

08:15He was, I mean, we used to say it.

08:17He's a bucket.

08:17I mean, he created some spectacular moments.

08:20His rookie season was way beyond anyone's expectation.

08:25I mean, he put himself on the map nationally, I remember.

08:30Um, and then it petered out.

08:32I think we saw what he was.

08:34He was a once in a while, maybe once in a career all-star.

08:38He got that.

08:40And he, he was like, you put him on a very good team.

08:45He can be a very big piece of it, but he's a centerpiece or, or one of the stalwarts of

08:53the team.

08:53And we watched what happened in the playoffs, like, um, he was exploitable and he got exploited.

09:00So, you know, it, it depends on what role that he's going to play somewhere, but I have

09:05good feelings for Tyler.

09:06I liked him a lot.

09:07It got a little dicey at the end.

09:09He wasn't playing enough, but I'm trying to look at his career.

09:12The seven seasons in totality, not just the, the last couple where it was very evident

09:16that Pat Riley wanted more action out of him and just wasn't getting it.

09:21He'd have a good game every now and again.

09:24I always use the, you know, the, the situation where my son's 14, when he gets married and

09:29has a kid 15 years from now, when I talked to my grandson about basketball, I'm not bringing

09:36up Tyler hero and the heat legacy history.

09:38It's Tyler hero.

09:39It is what it is.

09:40So Tyler heroes, number 14 Jersey, not even a conversation internally between brass about

09:48retiring.

09:49Number 14, I would smack your mouth.

09:51I wish we were in studio.

09:53I think they should have two players wear number 14 next season.

09:59I'm not advocating for it.

10:00I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there.

10:02I think when they play Milwaukee next season, everyone.

10:08Oh, Oh.

10:10Oh, I always think it's me, man, because I got my little Starlink, uh, satellite on the

10:15top of the TV.

10:16I think I was going to say, everybody should wear number 14 next year.

10:22Yeah, man.

10:23It's, it's Mario Chalmers.

10:25It's, you know, it's Norris Cole.

10:27Like I'm just throwing it out there.

10:29Uh, two trips to the NBA finals, even though the second one, he wasn't really a part of it.

10:33So I guess it doesn't, it doesn't count because he got hurt in game one against Milwaukee.

10:37Uh, I don't know.

10:39I don't think that number gets retired.

10:41I don't, I'm not advocating.

10:41I'm not arguing for it, but I did see a large faction of heat fans who now that we know

10:48he's

10:48been traded arguing for it.

10:50So I thought it was worth just pondering.

10:52This is your, this is the young little 20 and thirties.

10:57You're, you're people, Solana that just get caught up in the moment.

11:00You're never talking about Tyler hero again.

11:02You're talking about Shaq.

11:04You're talking about UD.

11:04You talk about Wade talking about Zoe.

11:07You're talking about a boss.

11:08You're talking about those guys.

11:10You, Jimmy Buckets is going to make the list.

11:12When you start talking about heat, heat legacy, Tyler hero is not getting spoke of in five

11:16years.

11:18Uh, by the way, DeMar DeRozan, according to Barry Jackson, there's been no contact yet

11:23between the heat and DeMar DeRozan.

11:26That's as of 23 minutes ago, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald tweeted that out.

11:30And then he throws out another name.

11:31Contavious Caldwell Pope has, uh, has been liked in the past and could come up again.

11:37If the Grizzlies part ways, he also mentioned, I wish Hawk was here for this.

11:41It's Bradley Beal, Gary Brent, or the Miami heat could simply wait on LeBron.

11:48Barry says, so you think it's Cleveland, 100% Crowder.

11:52Like you're, you're at a hundred percent Cleveland.

11:53No, I'm not at a hundred percent, but I've been, I'm stuck on the fact that, like I say,

11:58it would, it's a story.

11:59And I think LeBron cares about like the story.

12:02I think he really appreciates the, the legacy he has start leave, have to learn how to win.

12:09And this was college years.

12:10I think his name, his, his, his words were, these were his four college years to now go

12:15back and win one down three, one to the golden say, then go to one of the most, you know,

12:20the best franchise or one of the most, you know, favorite franchises in the history of

12:23basketball and win one, and then come back to Cleveland and they have a good squad.

12:28It's not like they're garbage.

12:29They had the two big boys.

12:30They got Mitchell.

12:31They got, you know, James Harden.

12:33I think him and James Harden are going to fight before the year's over if he does go back.

12:36But I just think it would, it would be a great bookend to LeBron James legacy for him to start

12:42and end in Cleveland.

12:43Yeah.

12:43But what's more important, winning another ring or retiring as a member of the Cavaliers?

12:49That's all I'm asking.

12:49Cause you're right.

12:50They have a good team.

12:50And I know we talked, talked about this a lot last week, but now that it feels like we're

12:55approaching the final decision of all decisions by LeBron James.

13:00I don't think Cleveland is the best chance to win a title.

13:04I'm not saying they can't, but I don't think it's the best chance to win.

13:07And I think whether it's Miami, whether you want to argue Philadelphia, like there, there's

13:12better situations for him to go win a ring.

13:16But I would ask Solana and not even, I don't know.

13:19I'm asking you this as a real question.

13:22If we just go Cleveland, Miami now with, you know, Jalen Brown and 76ers now through a

13:27wrench into everything golden state, I think is still in the mix.

13:29I've heard who is a better roster right now.

13:34And we know there might be movement with LeBron moving as we sit here today.

13:38Is it Cleveland or is it Miami with Giannis?

13:41Because we saw Cleveland drag Miami, but we didn't have Giannis.

13:44So what's the better roster of the two who has a higher ceiling?

13:48Who's just a better roster.

13:49You're sitting down with LeBron.

13:51You're sitting down with LeBron in the living room and he asked you that question.

13:54I think it's the Miami Heat because they have the better player.

13:56They have a top five player in the NBA.

13:58Cleveland doesn't.

13:59So yeah, I would give the nod to the Miami Heat and I'm not trying to be biased about

14:04it.

14:04I know I am a little bit, but I think if you give LeBron James, take, take the fact that

14:09Cleveland's home, you present them all the rosters and you say, this will be your last

14:13chance to win a championship.

14:14Here are the two rosters.

14:17Cleveland perhaps is a little bit deeper considering Miami hasn't filled out their

14:21roster yet, but Cleveland's bench isn't exactly like, they're not, they're not unbelievable.

14:27And he gets to play alongside Giannis onto the Kumpo and Bam at a bio who are defensively

14:33going to hold it down for him.

14:34Yeah.

14:35I think the opportunity to play with a top five player in the league when healthy and

14:40Giannis is a more enticing situation.

14:43If a, if LeBron wants to win, then going to Cleveland.

14:47But I heard Dan Levitard say this this morning, I was listening to their show and he said,

14:51going back to Cleveland, he can win without even winning.

14:55In other words, the LeBron James career and the story of him going back to Cleveland is

15:02a win no matter what happens on the court with basketball.

15:05I agree with that.

15:06I think that's a hundred percent accurate and it's, it's a great point, but if he does

15:10actually want to go chase that fifth title, then I don't think Cleveland's the best place

15:14for him.

15:16Mobley and Allen aren't Bam and Giannis, but they're two very good defensive bigs.

15:21They're not offensively nowhere close.

15:22Them boys can play ball.

15:23They're good for sure.

15:25Spider and James Harden are way better than Wiggins and Davion Mitchell.

15:33Aren't they?

15:34Yeah.

15:35Cause LeBron, what LeBron's going to run the three.

15:36He's going to run the point a lot, but he's going to be a guard.

15:39Yeah.

15:39But you're right.

15:40And James Harden are better than Davion Mitchell and Wiggins.

15:43Yeah.

15:43But Giannis on to the compo is better than either, either of the four players you mentioned

15:47for Cleveland by a long, the better bigs.

15:49We got the bigger, small, we got the better smalls.

15:52Like he just, we got to just talk about it rationally.

15:55I want, I want him to come to Miami.

15:58I'm just saying, I don't know if the difference in rosters plus what you're saying, like the emotional

16:03side of it, the win one for Cleveland, the promise Academy, it's a lot more attached to

16:09Cleveland than there is to Miami.

16:11Right now, Spain, Portugal, 27th minute.

16:15It's nil nil.

16:17USA will play Belgium.

16:18Yes.

16:19Flo Balogun will be available tonight for the U S and the Miami Marlins.

16:26We talked about Clayton McCullough, that entire decision in the first hour.

16:30I know we'll get back to it a little bit later, but yesterday just under immense heat from

16:36Marlins fans because of that decision to pull Yuri Perez.

16:40Um, and the Marlins are back at it tomorrow.

16:43They'll be here at Lone Depot park.

16:47Man, that was frustrating.

16:49Sorry about that.

16:49But the internet never went out in my house cause I'm watching the stream of the world cup

16:53game.

16:53And then my computer couldn't get it back.

16:56So then I have to restart it.

16:58Well, I haven't had this computer on in a couple of weeks.

17:00So then it's like update and restart.

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17:45I think Hawk's still dealing with some, I think he's still dealing with some, some

17:50stream yard.

17:51You gotta get that star link, that star link satellite.

17:55That star link is legit, bro.

17:56Man, I got a satellite on top of my house.

17:59It works.

18:00All right, let's do this.

18:01Let's let's reconnect with Hawk on the other side.

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