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The fifth year of growing these same vegetables in the same soil.
In one bed the broad/fava beans finish in time to plant hearting cabbage, whose harvest finishes in time to transplant broad beans in December.
In the other bed we plant second early potatoes April, harvested mid July and with leek transplants ready to go in on the same day. Their harvest finishes before it's time to plant potatoes.
Compost is applied once a year in December, and I use no other feeds or amendments except some rockdust in 2014.

See more details here, including the soil treatment aspects of this trial https://charlesdowding.co.uk/three-strip-trial-2014-2018/
and in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0V-5qXQz9U
The question of how much we need to rotate plantings is one of the lessons in my No Dig Gardening online course https://charlesdowding.co.uk/product/no-dig-gardening-online-course/
Filmed October 2019 by David Adams at Homeacres UK, zone 8 climate temperate oceanic, photo by Martin Scase potter.

Spanish subtitles by Maria F. Nieto Ramirez
Transcript
00:00Thank you for listening.
00:34Rotation of vegetables, which means growing them in a different place from one year to
00:40the next.
00:41It's commonly prescribed as being that you should leave a three-year interval between
00:48growing plants of same family, like say brassicas or alliums, before you grow them again.
00:55And so that's then called a four-year rotation.
00:59Actually comes from 18th century farming.
01:03I'm not convinced how applicable it is to modern gardening, but I don't really know for sure.
01:09And so that's why I'm running a little trial here, just comparing to see where, for example,
01:16this is the fifth year in a row of growing cabbages in the same place.
01:22It's a little, I'm a little bit vague on the precise number just because at the very start
01:27of this trial, I didn't actually have beds quite like this, but it's more or less actually
01:31the sixth year in the same place.
01:33But to be more correct, it's the fifth year in beds like this.
01:37And we made a video about this in 2016, three years ago.
01:42And if you're interested to compare, do have a look at that one.
01:45This is going forwards a bit.
01:47And so what has actually happened here, I say, in this cabbage bed is each year we grow
01:53broad beans in the winter, through the winter, sown November, planted December, harvested 13th
01:59of June, and that's when these were planted.
02:01So we do a final harvest of the broad beans, 13th of June, in this case, 2019.
02:07Clear the plants.
02:08We cut them off at the roots and plant cabbages, which were sown a month before that.
02:13This is phil de kraut.
02:15There's a red cabbage there and a different white one.
02:18And basically, we've been doing that sequence, broad beans, cabbage, broad beans, cabbage,
02:22for five years in this strip.
02:26And draw your own conclusion, really, but for me, I'm not yet seeing any deterioration
02:32of quality.
02:33If you had club root, if you're unlucky enough to have club root, and often British allotments
02:38have that in the soil, then you do need to rotate cabbage.
02:43Otherwise, maybe not so much.
02:45I'm not saying it's good not to rotate, but I'm just like to show this as an example.
02:51For those of you who maybe like to eat lots of cabbage, you know, you don't want to wait
02:54four years between planting each lot of brassica or cabbage, whatever.
02:59So this is a positive indication here.
03:01And a bit the same for the leeks, where this line, we do potatoes as first crop.
03:08So they go in the ground, in this case, this year, it was the 12th of April.
03:13And they were harvested on the 11th of July.
03:16That was Charlotte potatoes.
03:17So that's been happening every year.
03:20And this year, the fifth year in a row of potatoes, we got 48 kilos, was actually the highest total
03:27of the five years so far.
03:30Which mainly reflects that we have very good weather this spring for potatoes.
03:33And we gave them one watering just before harvest that swelled the tubers a bit.
03:37But basically, a really nice harvest.
03:40And this is now the fifth year in the row of leeks following.
03:42So it's potatoes leeks, potatoes leeks, fifth year in a row there.
03:47A little bit of rust on the leaves, but actually no more than in other parts of the garden where
03:52I'm growing the same leeks, but in different places, not rotating others.
03:56So I've got that comparison to make as well.
03:58These are still a little bit small, mainly because they went in quite late.
04:02They were sown on the 5th of April, planted here 11th of July.
04:07And, you know, they've got a bit of time still to grow.
04:10The ground is fairly moist, leaks like a lot of water, so we will keep these water.
04:16The potatoes left them pretty dry.
04:19But yeah, so far so good, I would say, for year five.
04:22And if we move over here, there's two more lines, I can show you a similar story.
04:29So these two lines, this one was squash until just a few days ago.
04:35Currie winter squash, so that's lovely dark red ones that make a hard skin that you can
04:41store for the winter.
04:43And basically, they were ripe and the leaves had died off.
04:46So we harvested 20 kilos of squash.
04:50And that was the sixth year in a row of squash in this same place.
04:57Not bad, 20 kilos.
04:59We have had as much as 55, actually, from this area.
05:03So just six plants.
05:05So this year's harvest was down.
05:07The pattern of weather didn't suit their timing of growth quite so well.
05:11But I have been wondering, actually, a little bit.
05:13I will do it for one more year.
05:15I'm beginning to question that growing squash in the same place for that many years.
05:19But we'll see.
05:20I mustn't jump to a conclusion.
05:22Because this strip next to me, when we were here years ago, and it was a year when we'd
05:30had a dry summer.
05:31And it was really for that reason more than anything, I think.
05:33The beans weren't looking so brilliant.
05:35And I was thinking, you know, I wasn't sure what was causing it.
05:38But with the benefit of hindsight, it was definitely the dry weather.
05:41And we hadn't watered much.
05:42Whereas this year, we have watered a bit more, actually.
05:47And this is the seventh year in a row of growing climbing beans, borlottis, and runner beans for
05:56seed in the same place.
05:58Seven years in a row, these beans have been here every summer, planted May, harvested through
06:04September, October.
06:06And this year, year seven, I haven't got the harvest totals yet.
06:10But the bean plants, to me, actually look pretty much as healthy as I've ever seen them.
06:15They look fantastic.
06:16All of this ground, we are treating in the same way compost-wise.
06:21After the autumn harvest, we spread compost on the surface.
06:25It's all no dig.
06:26Actually, with one exception, because there's a little trial strip there.
06:28But basically, it's no dig with all the organic matter on top and compost.
06:34No other feeds or fertilizers.
06:36So it's just no dig with compost and whether that plays a part in the health of these plants
06:43that could be, you know, if you were digging disturbing ground, for me, that's a damaging
06:49thing to do.
06:51And I think it's one reason why my gardens generally, the plants are very healthy.
06:57People often comment on that.
06:58I get a lot of lovely comments like on Instagram, you know, what other vegetables that just look
07:03so blooming and glossy and shiny and full of color.
07:06So this trial into no rotation, you know, if you did it with digging, it might give a slightly
07:11different result and be not so good, I think.
07:14But if you really, what rotation is about is maintaining soil health and vitality reflected
07:21in plant growth and vitality.
07:24And in the case of classical rotation theory, it's worrying about whether you get a buildup
07:30of pests and disease from using the same bit of soil every year for the same plant.
07:35And yeah, I would just say from what I'm seeing so far, seven years, six years, five years,
07:42there's a limit to how far that you need to worry about that.
07:45It's not all nonsense.
07:47But on the other hand, if you have a piece of ground and you're not growing many crops
07:51and you can't fit in a full year rotation, I would say, don't worry about it too much.
07:56My ideal would be to leave one year between plants of the same family.
08:00I think that's safety first, if you like.
08:03But even if you couldn't do even that, well, maybe try continuous coffee.
08:17With that, I think is good enough.
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