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00:05I've been exposed by OPP.
00:22I've been exposed by OPP.
00:28How you doing, sir?
00:30Hey, how are you, man?
00:31Good.
00:32Tony!
00:33Tony?
00:34Hey, how are you, man?
00:35Who are you?
00:36I'm Russell with Oklahoma Predator Prevention.
00:42You feel certain?
00:44I would like to have a conversation with you about who you've been chatting with online.
00:49Okay.
00:50You know who I'm talking about?
00:53I have a feeling, yeah.
00:54You have a feeling?
00:55Okay.
00:56And who might that be?
00:59I don't know her name right now because I've been talking to a lot of people on my mind.
01:04Okay.
01:07How old is she?
01:09I don't know.
01:11Tony?
01:12Yeah.
01:13Don't seem like he wants to cooperate, huh?
01:16Look, Tony.
01:17We don't want no problems with you.
01:19We don't want to get you in any trouble or nothing like that.
01:22We just want to talk with you and hopefully we can get this sorted out with just a conversation.
01:27She's 13.
01:28She's 13.
01:28I didn't come.
01:29I wasn't going to do anything with her.
01:31Okay.
01:32Okay.
01:33Can we go in and talk?
01:35That way we aren't bringing like a bunch of attention out there.
01:37Yeah, so nobody's trying.
01:38I would rather all these people not really know, you know?
01:41I mean, we don't mean no harm to you, Tony.
01:44Probably got to put your cigarette out, Super.
01:46Oh, man.
01:47No smoking in here.
01:49I'm not a cop, dude.
01:50No, we're not law enforcement.
01:53At all.
01:54We have no affiliation.
01:56We're concerned fathers, man.
01:58That's it.
01:59I'm sorry, man.
02:00No, no.
02:01You're good.
02:02I think we can get it all ourselves.
02:04The cameras are for just everybody's safety.
02:06You know, I don't know you.
02:08You don't know me, right?
02:09Like, after I leave here, after I leave, after we part ways,
02:14you can't call the cops and say I assaulted you.
02:17Everything's going to be documented.
02:18Okay?
02:19It ain't going nowhere.
02:20You know how, you know how, you know how, you know how, you just...
02:22Can you go over there?
02:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:24I don't know my dog.
02:26No, you're good, buddy.
02:28Hey.
02:28But you know how cops wear body cams.
02:31Yeah.
02:31You know, it's for safety, man.
02:33It's just for safety.
02:34Hey, puppy.
02:36This bed's safe.
02:37You haven't been, like, off or anything.
02:40Hey, what's the dog's name?
02:41Come here.
02:42What's the dog's name?
02:42Hey.
02:43Real quick, before I sit down, you ain't been, like, off or anything here?
02:46No.
02:47All right.
02:47I'm good.
02:48Look, here's the deal, guys.
02:50I'm good to sit right here?
02:51Yeah.
02:52All right.
02:52Here's the deal, okay?
02:54I just got out of a five-year marriage.
02:57Oh, man, dude.
02:58That sucks.
02:59It was sexless, and, you know, it felt kind of, I don't know, good to maybe have someone
03:10pay attention to me.
03:11Right.
03:12Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:13What happened with your relationship?
03:17I don't know, honestly.
03:19It just kind of weathered away?
03:21We got married for the wrong reason.
03:23She married me to make another guy jealous.
03:26Oh, damn.
03:26And you agreed to it?
03:28I didn't know it was.
03:29Oh, okay.
03:30Damn, she kind of...
03:31You never laid in this bed?
03:32You never laid in this bed?
03:34She kind of bamboozled you.
03:36She cheated on me four times with the same guy, and she laid, like, 340.
03:45Oh, man.
03:46340.
03:48If she ain't 380, she ain't a lady.
03:51But we couldn't do anything.
03:53Right.
03:53So, it was a sexless marriage.
03:56Right.
03:56And we split up finally.
03:59Man, I've been living in the hotel for, since Sunday.
04:05Not Saturday.
04:08Somebody pays for this for you, or...?
04:11I've had to beg, borrow, and plead.
04:14Okay.
04:15You know.
04:16Right, right, right.
04:16No, I got you.
04:17I mean...
04:18Some falling in some hard times.
04:20Because I got this little guy right here.
04:22What's his name?
04:23Bandit.
04:23Bandit.
04:24Bandit.
04:24He's a good boy.
04:25Thank you, baby.
04:26And he does not need to be out on the streets, and...
04:30Right, right, right, right.
04:31I don't need to be out on the streets.
04:32Right.
04:33I'm fighting a disability case right now.
04:35Oh, man.
04:35What happened?
04:35What happened?
04:36I had a stroke in 2015.
04:38Oh, good.
04:39It took...
04:40It took my right side.
04:44And...
04:45You know, it just...
04:47Like, I've probably got about 30% strength on my right side.
04:51Oh, damn, man.
04:52I...
04:52I can walk...
04:54Probably...
04:55Maybe a walk at a time.
04:57You know...
04:58How old were the girls that were supposed to come over here?
05:01One was 13.
05:02How old was the other one?
05:04I don't know.
05:04I don't know.
05:05I really don't know.
05:06We've got to be honest, or we can't fix the problem.
05:08I mean, I really don't know.
05:08I think the 13-year-old maybe said 11.
05:11I don't know.
05:1111?
05:12And I wasn't going to do anything, because...
05:16It just felt good to get the attention.
05:18No, I...
05:18Yeah.
05:19Did you know...
05:20Were you in the military?
05:21Yeah.
05:22Dude, awesome, man.
05:23What branch?
05:24Uh, Navy.
05:25Nice.
05:25Thank you for your service.
05:27But...
05:28I...
05:29Guys, I...
05:30I know.
05:30We can tell you're a good guy, man.
05:32I'm sorry, and I apologize for all this.
05:34You just got caught up in some internet bull****, huh?
05:36Yeah.
05:37So, what app did you meet this girl on?
05:40What's her name?
05:41Uh, she said it was...
05:44I deleted the app.
05:46Oh, okay.
05:46Well, what app was it?
05:48Uh, Meet24.
05:49Oh, okay.
05:50I deleted, like, every app on my phone.
05:53Oh, you got a bunch of apps.
05:54Well, what other apps did you have?
05:55Did you have a Telegram or...
05:57No.
05:58Zangy?
05:58No, I don't have Zangy.
06:00No, I do have a...
06:04Signal?
06:05Um...
06:05Signal and...
06:08What...
06:10What's app.
06:10What's app.
06:11What's app.
06:11Okay.
06:11Yeah.
06:12I've heard of the...
06:13What's app.
06:14What's up?
06:15What's app?
06:16Oh, what's app.
06:17Yeah, yeah.
06:17I've never heard of Sagnal.
06:20Babe, I'm...
06:21I'm talking to one girl on Signal.
06:26Yeah, where's she from?
06:28She said she was from Grove, man.
06:30Okay.
06:30Like, I was talking to her and I told her what my situation was.
06:34Did she ever ask you for money?
06:36She did.
06:36Yeah.
06:37And she got $40.
06:38Okay.
06:39What did you get in return?
06:40Oh, you gave her $40?
06:41Yeah.
06:41What did you get in return for that?
06:42Nothing.
06:43Nothing.
06:43What did she tell you she was going to give you?
06:45She was going to let me move in with her.
06:48So, me and my dog had a place to go.
06:49She...
06:50So, she scammed you for $40?
06:52Yeah.
06:53When was that?
06:54Um, today.
06:55Okay.
06:56Damn.
06:56Today you gave her $40 right now?
06:58Yeah.
07:00Damn.
07:00God damn, Tony.
07:01And you don't even...
07:02How did you get $40?
07:04Well, my niece sent me...
07:06My niece sent me, uh, a hundred.
07:09So, damn.
07:09And you sent...
07:10I'm damn near half of it.
07:11But, like, this girl said she was coming over and she was going to pick me up and take
07:20me back to her house and we were going to live there.
07:22Okay.
07:23So...
07:23In Grove.
07:24Yeah.
07:25Was she cute?
07:26Yeah.
07:26Yeah.
07:27I mean, she was 30.
07:29Yeah.
07:30But how did she want the money?
07:33Like, how did you send it to her?
07:34She got it on through Venmo.
07:36Damn, Tony.
07:37You got money like that?
07:38Not really.
07:40Not really.
07:40And I'm stupid for doing it.
07:42Because now I'm having to, like, beg or I'm pleading to get that money back.
07:45So, did she tell you that she's not coming?
07:48No.
07:49She just, like...
07:50She sent...
07:50Could I turn that down just a little bit?
07:52I'm kind of hard hearing, man.
07:53Yeah.
07:53I'm sorry.
07:56She sent me a message and said, you know, like, she needed a 20 for gas.
08:01So I sent her the 20 for gas and then she said she needed 20 for something that she...
08:07Damn, that's the typical...
08:08That's the typical thing they say.
08:10And then, like, she's supposed to be on her way over here and she said her car...
08:13She's coming now?
08:14Well, she said she was.
08:16Oh, okay.
08:16But she said her car broke down and she needed $20 more for oil for her car.
08:25And I told her, I said, I'm done.
08:27I'm not sitting here.
08:29I'm running.
08:29So, since she didn't come, you wanted Haley to come?
08:34I just wanted some attention.
08:36Oh, okay.
08:36Well, you're getting attention.
08:38I mean, here we are.
08:39We're just spending a nice little time together.
08:41So, on those apps, what did you say?
08:42Signal?
08:44Signal.
08:45Yeah.
08:45So, was there a lot of people...
08:47You said there's a lot of people over there that try to ask for money.
08:49Do you think I'm as cute as she is?
08:51No.
08:53Do they, is people try to sell content over there?
08:57Yeah, they do.
08:58Yeah.
08:58That's what I've heard.
09:00I've heard a little bit about Signal.
09:03I've never, I've never...
09:05You never bought any content?
09:06Okay, no.
09:07Do they ever offer any, like, previews?
09:10Like, you know...
09:11Well, I mean, yeah, they'll do that.
09:13Okay.
09:13Right.
09:14Man, and honestly, I felt like this whole thing wasn't set up anyway.
09:23Yeah, well, this was a child.
09:24Yeah.
09:25And I felt like...
09:26Her mother intercepted this last night.
09:29I felt like this wasn't set up the whole time.
09:32I bet it wasn't, though.
09:34Her mother found the messages.
09:36But, you know...
09:39She reached out to us.
09:40That's why I decided I didn't even go through with it.
09:44Because, man, I'm, you know...
09:47I'm 50...
09:48I heard you're like a godly person and, you know...
09:51I'm 50...
09:51Dig into the church.
09:52Man, I...
09:53Did you work with, like, the youth pastor?
09:56I worked with...
09:57I worked at Brush Creek with some boys.
09:59Okay.
09:59How old were they?
10:01Between 13 and 18.
10:02Okay.
10:03They were heathens.
10:04Who were they?
10:05Did you set them straight?
10:07There was no setting them straight, honestly.
10:09No.
10:09I had one spray me in the face with a fire extinguisher.
10:12I had a mattress thrown at me.
10:16One of them told me after I had my stroke, I should have died.
10:19Damn.
10:20That's...
10:20They were harsh about it, huh?
10:22There was little kids...
10:23What about little girls?
10:25No.
10:25No.
10:26Okay.
10:27Are you bisexual?
10:28No.
10:29No.
10:29No, there was...
10:30So, if, like, I went to go talk to any of these little boys that you were around,
10:34none of them would say,
10:36Oh, Tony, you did some weird stuff to me.
10:38No, they wouldn't.
10:40And, honestly, the whole time I was working there,
10:43I had met the woman I married.
10:45Yeah.
10:48And, me and her were dating the whole time.
10:51Oh, okay.
10:52So...
10:52And you're a loyal man, huh?
10:54I can tell you're a good guy.
10:55Man, I really can't.
10:56I...
10:56Ain't he?
10:57Absolutely.
10:58I didn't want the marriage to end.
11:01You seem like you felt into some hard times.
11:04Yeah.
11:05Very hard times.
11:06So, do you struggle with being attracted to minors?
11:09No.
11:10No.
11:11That's not an issue.
11:13Okay.
11:14Um...
11:14Like I said, this time I just...
11:16Man.
11:16How long have you been on the dating apps or whatever apps?
11:20On and off, you know, probably...
11:22Even when you were married?
11:24No.
11:24Okay.
11:25No.
11:25Never when I was married.
11:26Okay.
11:27But on and off...
11:28How long ago was your marriage over?
11:30Uh...
11:31Well...
11:32Probably the day it started.
11:34But...
11:36Officially, probably last week.
11:39Okay.
11:40They...
11:40You just got, like, divorced last week?
11:43We were...
11:44We were in Wisconsin.
11:45She's a...
11:46She's a traveling nurse.
11:47Okay.
11:48And we were in Wisconsin when she informed me when we got back that I needed to get out
11:52of the house.
11:54Damn.
11:54Okay.
11:55Tony, um...
11:57And...
11:57You did invite them two girls over here today, right?
12:00Yes, sir.
12:01Okay.
12:01Now, just be honest with me.
12:02Like I said, nobody's here to hurt you.
12:04Nobody's judging you.
12:06What was gonna happen?
12:08Honestly...
12:09Be honest.
12:10Because I heard some phone calls and...
12:13Honestly...
12:14You know...
12:14I talked a big game.
12:17But when it comes right down to it...
12:18What was that?
12:19My phone.
12:20Oh, f***.
12:21Uh...
12:22That's f***ing scary, dude.
12:23But what did you tell her that y'all were gonna do?
12:29Um...
12:30Well...
12:31I'm ashamed that you can say.
12:33No, I bet...
12:33I would like to hear it.
12:34I know.
12:35Let me tell you, it was very sexual.
12:36Okay.
12:37I'll go that far.
12:38Were y'all gonna have sex today, Tony?
12:40I...
12:41I wouldn't.
12:41If she...
12:42I'm not saying you're gonna press up on her, but if she was willing...
12:45Were you...
12:46I wouldn't have.
12:47Because the more I thought about it...
12:51But Tony, why would you...
12:52Why would you invite a 13 and 11 year old over here today?
12:57Yeah, I think I just wanted to be a teacher.
12:59But from a 13 and 11 year old...
13:02Why do you keep looking at my camera?
13:05I'm not...
13:06Like that camera ain't gonna bite you, man.
13:08Like I said, it's safety, man.
13:10We're not cops.
13:11Listen, if we were cops, don't you think that we would've...
13:13We wouldn't be having this conversation in here, Dan.
13:16Motel.
13:16You know?
13:17Yeah.
13:17We're concerned fathers, Tony.
13:19We wouldn't be pulling up in a Honda.
13:21Here's the deal, guys.
13:22Okay.
13:23Like I said, I was in a sexless marriage.
13:26I wasn't getting attention from her.
13:28How long ago did y'all split?
13:30Um...
13:31I got here Saturday.
13:32He said a week ago.
13:33Oh, damn.
13:35Yeah.
13:35I mean, I've been here since Saturday and...
13:37Hey.
13:39Hey.
13:39You've moved on quick if you're already out on the day.
13:42Maybe...
13:43Tony, maybe I can wingman you.
13:45Call your wife and I'll talk...
13:47I'll get her...
13:47I'll get you back in there, man.
13:49I don't want to get back in there.
13:50Ever.
13:51No, I'll get her...
13:52You're glad to be gone?
13:53I'll talk to her and see if she'll start having sex with you and all of that.
13:57I'm glad it's over.
13:58I don't want to be there.
13:59Come...
14:00Okay.
14:00Well, can I call her and tell her?
14:01She's a piece of...
14:02Can I call her and tell her?
14:03No.
14:03Here's the deal.
14:04Well, come like Thursday or Friday, I'm going back to Adult and Teen Challenge.
14:11Adult Teen Challenge.
14:13Okay.
14:13Yeah.
14:14So there's adults and teens there?
14:15Yes.
14:16Okay.
14:16In Cache, Oklahoma.
14:18Cache.
14:18I've heard of that.
14:20And...
14:20What are you going to do there?
14:22Well, I graduated the program there.
14:24Okay.
14:24And I'm going back for restoration.
14:26What is that?
14:28Exactly.
14:28Um...
14:29Just going back...
14:30Did you have a problem with drugs or alcohol?
14:33No.
14:33You don't do drugs or no alcohol?
14:35Sex addiction?
14:36No.
14:37What's your issue to go to Teen?
14:39Because I know people that's been there and they got drug problems.
14:42Here was my issue.
14:45Um...
14:45Sorry, that was not what I meant to say.
14:47I lived in Duncan.
14:48I fell on some hard times.
14:49Like really hard times.
14:51Okay.
14:52Um...
14:53I got in trouble because I bought a surround sound system from a guy.
14:59Um...
14:59I sold cars made about six or seven grand a month.
15:02Yeah.
15:02And one of my friends said he needed $300.
15:07And he'd sell me the surround sound for $300.
15:10So I bought it.
15:11Okay.
15:13And...
15:15When I got fired from the car that I worked at, they messed me over on my paycheck really
15:21bad.
15:22Like real bad.
15:23And gave me a $28 paycheck.
15:25Oh.
15:28Um...
15:28If I find out you d*** off on this bed, I'm going to be really upset.
15:32I didn't.
15:32No.
15:32No one's even been on that bed.
15:34Not even heated.
15:34It looked all folded and nuts.
15:36So I'm trusting you.
15:39All right.
15:41Well, we heard a phone call of you d*** off on the phone with her, what, last night?
15:47Um...
15:47Or a couple of nights ago?
15:49I think so.
15:51Yeah.
15:51I can't remember, man.
15:52It's...
15:54This...
15:55Honestly, this whole week has been a blur.
15:58Are you...
15:58Drugs?
15:59Pills?
16:00Medication?
16:01Um...
16:01Well, I'm on prescription medication.
16:03Like what kind?
16:04Uh...
16:05Metformin.
16:05The Sinopril.
16:07I don't know what it is.
16:08Does any of that alter your judgment?
16:10No.
16:11Diabetic...
16:11Oh, so that...
16:12It don't alter you.
16:13No.
16:14It's not like Xanax or anything.
16:15It's just going to make you go into a coma.
16:18No.
16:18Like I said, man.
16:19It's just...
16:20I...
16:21I...
16:22I wanted attention.
16:24Right, right, right.
16:25Um...
16:26Are you...
16:26Are you talking to very many adults on that site?
16:30Um...
16:31Man, I'm talking to a couple.
16:35Um...
16:35And honestly...
16:38Um...
16:39The one that I was talking to, I got the $40 too.
16:44Um...
16:45Seemed like it was really good on guard.
16:48And I was...
16:49How long were you talking to her for?
16:50Uh...
16:51I talked to her for like two days.
16:52Okay.
16:53And she didn't...
16:54And you thought it was going to work?
16:56Well, she said...
16:57She said she didn't want me and my dog to be homeless.
16:59Yeah.
16:59My main concern right now, honestly, is not me.
17:03How did you pay her?
17:04I...
17:04I had...
17:05You said Venmo.
17:06So you have the church paying for this room for you and you're sending $40 to random people?
17:13Well, I...
17:13Look, I thought it was someone that was going to let me move in with them.
17:17Damn, Tony.
17:17I don't...
17:19I'm not concerned for myself.
17:21My health and my...
17:22My health and my body.
17:24Mm-hmm.
17:24I don't worry about it.
17:26Cause Bandit's such a good boy, huh?
17:28What I worry about is this little guy right here.
17:33He's...
17:34Man, I had another dog named Chico that passed away.
17:37He does seem like a good boy.
17:39And...
17:40When Chico passed away, I thought I'd never known another dog.
17:44He broke your heart.
17:45Yeah.
17:45And then my best friend's mom gave me this dog.
17:50And...
17:51When he gave...
17:52When she gave me this dog, the first day I got him, he peed on me like twice.
17:58He was marking his territory, I guess.
18:01And...
18:02He just...
18:03Does he like peanut butter?
18:05I don't know.
18:06I mean, he eats about everything, man.
18:08I've seen him eat Brussels sprouts.
18:09Okay.
18:12Um...
18:13Most dogs like peanut butter.
18:15He, uh...
18:16But she gave me him.
18:18And...
18:19Ever since, man, like...
18:21Cause I can't work cause I'm fighting that disability case.
18:25It is what it is.
18:27Right, nah, I get it.
18:27I've been denied...
18:29It happens, you know?
18:29I've been denied through the state twice.
18:32And now it's on a federal appeal.
18:35Oh, dang.
18:36So, let me ask you, Tony.
18:39On those other apps, like, you know, Signal and all that, you said that there's some...
18:44Content being sold.
18:46Content being sold.
18:46What...
18:47I mean, there's content that gets sold on them, yes.
18:50What age...
18:51Of the girls?
18:53Honestly...
18:53I'm not...
18:53We're not saying you're buying this.
18:55Or that you've wanted it.
18:56Honestly, I don't know.
18:57I mean...
18:58Yeah, we're not even saying you're into this shit.
19:00How did they look?
19:01Some...
19:01Well, I mean...
19:02Underage?
19:04Some of them looked underage.
19:06About how old, though?
19:07Because I'm telling you, I've heard from some people that there's as young as babies on these things.
19:12Probably, probably like 14 or 15 is like the youngest I would've seen.
19:16Okay.
19:18Um...
19:18But, I mean, there's adult women on there.
19:21Right.
19:21No, absolutely, man.
19:23Yeah.
19:23And what they do is they just put it on a headline, you know.
19:26Do they ever say anything on CP or any pizza emojis or anything?
19:34Um...
19:35I hadn't seen anything like that.
19:36CP?
19:37CP, no.
19:38You know what that means?
19:39No.
19:40Child...
19:41Oh, no.
19:42I hadn't seen that.
19:43There's people selling that shit on there.
19:44Yeah.
19:44No, like...
19:46I'm not saying you're looking for it actively or anything, but sometimes people get thrown
19:50into groups, right?
19:53Does that happen?
19:54I'm not saying on...
19:56Just have you been thrown into a group before over on Signal?
19:59You know, like with a hundred other people, you're in a group.
20:02No.
20:03No.
20:03And I'll be honest with you, I wouldn't even have Signal or WhatsApp if I'm not...
20:08If I wouldn't have been talking to the two people I'm talking to.
20:11But, okay, hold on though.
20:12Let me just rewind.
20:13But you've had it for a while?
20:14No.
20:15Let's rewind a little bit.
20:16So, you said 14, 15.
20:18What...
20:19Where was that at?
20:20On Signal?
20:20No.
20:22That was on like...
20:24Meet 24.
20:26Okay.
20:27Were they showing nudes on there?
20:30Well, they weren't showing nudes.
20:32What was it?
20:33They would...
20:34I mean like their profile picture...
20:36Yeah.
20:37...would be provocative.
20:39And I...
20:39But it said like picks for sale.
20:42Okay.
20:42You know...
20:43Do they give any...
20:44Like I said, any previews, you know?
20:48Well, I mean...
20:49Man, I tried to stay away from them.
20:51I get it.
20:52Like I said, I'm not saying you're in it.
20:53I'm trying to find these kids, man, that are being exploited online.
20:58I...
21:00I honestly...
21:00I don't know if they offered previews or not.
21:03Because I guess if you message them...
21:05Yeah.
21:05They'd offer you a preview.
21:07Did you ever message them?
21:09No.
21:10Okay.
21:11No.
21:11So...
21:12And like...
21:12You know, most of the people you meet on these apps...
21:16They're like, oh, well, can you help me with an Apple card?
21:19Can you help me with this?
21:20Yeah.
21:21They're probably some Indian scammer over in India, you know?
21:25Yeah.
21:25That's probably who that was today that you just sent $40 to.
21:29Yeah.
21:29Some Pakistan or whatever.
21:33Well...
21:33She's...
21:33But...
21:34She...
21:34She just messaged me.
21:35Who's texting you?
21:36Is she coming?
21:38I don't know.
21:39She said she's still with her car.
21:41What's wrong with her car?
21:42Here, call her.
21:43Let me talk to her.
21:45Oh, she doesn't answer.
21:46They call her.
21:47She doesn't answer.
21:47Just hit the call button.
21:49She really doesn't...
21:50Just howl or Tony?
21:53No, no, man.
21:53I'm not gonna do that.
21:54Just in case she does come, I don't...
21:56I don't even piss her off, man.
21:57Oh, no.
21:58I'm just gonna tell her.
21:59Are you coming to...
22:00Tell me or what?
22:01She's gonna let him stay at her house.
22:03Yeah.
22:03And if she's gonna let me move in there...
22:05Where does she live?
22:06She said she lived in Grove.
22:07Grove.
22:08Okay.
22:08How far is that from here?
22:11It's...
22:11Probably...
22:12Seven...
22:13And you met her on Me 24?
22:15Yeah.
22:15What's her address?
22:16Or what does her mileage say?
22:18How far she is from you?
22:19Oh, I don't know.
22:20I believe that they have.
22:21Mm-hmm.
22:22Well, that Me 24 is crazy, though, because, like, they could say...
22:27It would say they're from Detroit, and then when you talk to them, they're like,
22:30Oh, well, I'm close to you.
22:32Yeah.
22:32You know?
22:33I mean...
22:36I heard you say something on a phone call about you were scared about a to-catch-a-predator
22:41type thing or something, right?
22:43Yeah.
22:44Why would you think that?
22:46Well, because, honestly, that's the first thing that popped in my head.
22:52Because she's underage.
22:54Yeah.
22:54Yeah.
22:55I mean, you were doing some predatory behavior.
22:57Yes, I was.
22:58And I'll admit that.
22:59Yeah.
23:00And I'm sorry for that.
23:01I shouldn't have...
23:02I mean, we've heard the phone call.
23:03Yeah.
23:04So...
23:04I mean, I shouldn't have done it.
23:05I'm sorry for it, and...
23:07Do you use the Wi-Fi here?
23:09Yeah.
23:09Okay.
23:10And going...
23:10Well, something...
23:11I'm gonna tell you this.
23:12We got a tech guy, and something with the IP Wi-Fi was pinging straight to this room.
23:22Okay.
23:22With it...
23:23Like, what I was talking about on those apps of the CD stuff.
23:27It's detecting younger pictures.
23:32Oh, no.
23:34No.
23:34I mean...
23:34Yeah, she did send some pictures.
23:36No, not...
23:37Not her, necessarily.
23:38I'm saying, like, there's been other pictures viewed here.
23:43Not of her, but of some other younger kids.
23:45He...
23:46I had nothing to do with that.
23:48Okay.
23:48Okay.
23:49Well, tell me about it.
23:50Well, I mean, I don't even know about what you're talking about with other younger pictures.
23:56Can you explain this?
23:58What...
23:58What you were meaning to?
24:06Hold it up to your chest.
24:09Huh?
24:10She was making...
24:12Okay.
24:12She was wanting me to talk dirty.
24:15She was wanting me to tell her what I was missing.
24:20I mean, that's...
24:21You're gonna make it happen?
24:23I said...
24:23I said all that.
24:25You're not gonna make it happen.
24:26I...
24:26I...
24:26I admit it.
24:27I mean, I'm not proud of it, but I did do it.
24:31Well, that's the first step is, you know, admitting that you did... made it wrong.
24:34You know, and guys, that's part of the... part of the reason I'm going back to Teen Challenge
24:41is to get my life back on track where it needs to be.
24:47Um...
24:47Because, right now...
24:50You're at rock bottom?
24:52I'm a ship without a rudder or a sail.
24:55Right.
24:55What are you gonna do with the dog when you go to the...
24:57I gotta give him away.
24:58Really?
24:59Yeah.
25:00That's sad.
25:02Well, what are you gonna give him to?
25:04The neighbor or something?
25:05I...
25:05I don't know.
25:07Somebody at the church house?
25:08And I just...
25:09I just want to...
25:12Is that her?
25:13Is that her?
25:13No, that was ESPN.
25:14Yeah.
25:16Um...
25:17And my ex-wife just texted me.
25:19So if you've been...
25:20For what?
25:21Um...
25:22Well...
25:22So if you...
25:23Believe it or not, actually, she's gonna have to give me a ride to Cash.
25:27That's gonna be a real pleasant car ride...
25:30With your ex-wife?
25:31A ride back from Wisconsin.
25:33Oh, man.
25:36Um...
25:36But...
25:37Yeah, I mean, I just...
25:38I just want him to have him...
25:40I just want him to have a good home.
25:41So if those two girls came here today, man...
25:45And you...
25:45I know what you said.
25:46Do you have kids?
25:47No.
25:48Nieces, nephews?
25:50So...
25:50I do have nieces and nephews, yes.
25:52But...
25:53No, I was not.
25:55Okay, Tony.
25:56So you've not...
25:56How old are you?
25:5750?
25:57I'm 50, and I would not have done anything.
26:00Because honestly...
26:03The closer it came to time, the worse I felt about myself.
26:08I mean, dude, you don't understand.
26:11I feel like a complete and total piece of shit right now.
26:14I mean...
26:15Well, you've had chances to backpedal and, you know, just say...
26:20Yeah.
26:20I mean, what should you have done when you found out she was 13?
26:23I shouldn't have just reported her.
26:25Right.
26:26Absolutely.
26:27Have you ever been in trouble like this before?
26:29No.
26:30So you've never brought children into this world?
26:33No.
26:34But you think...
26:35But you're preying on other people's children, Tony.
26:38Well, I have a son at one point.
26:41You're preying on other people's children, Tony.
26:43I know.
26:44And like I said, I'm very sorry.
26:45Okay.
26:47Well...
26:47I shouldn't have done it.
26:48I mean, listen, man.
26:49Me and him both have 11-year-old daughters.
26:51Yeah.
26:52I shouldn't have done it.
26:53It was stupid.
26:53I mean, think about it.
26:54The father found these messages, right?
26:58You know, honestly, like, this should be a reality check for you.
27:01Dude, if...
27:01Because, listen...
27:02If someone wanted to...
27:03If a dad wanted to become whooped my ass for doing that, or...
27:06Yeah, I would deserve it.
27:09I mean, like I said, me and him both have 11-year-olds.
27:11Yeah.
27:11You invited an 11-year-old here today.
27:13If someone...
27:14If someone...
27:15If a parent wanted to become whooped me...
27:18Okay.
27:19Let me ask you this and be honest, Tony.
27:21What...
27:22What did...
27:23I'm not saying you were going to actually do if they got here, but what did you say
27:28you were going to do with that 11-year-old?
27:33I don't remember.
27:34Were you going to have...
27:35Did you say you were going to have sex with her?
27:39I don't think I said I was going to have sex with her.
27:41I think what she said is, what would you do?
27:44And I said, I guess what...
27:47You know...
27:48Whatever.
27:50Or...
27:51You know...
27:51So what does that entail?
27:53I...
27:54I guess whatever she wanted to do.
27:59Oh, y'all are good.
28:00I'm just making a quick call.
28:02But...
28:03Oh, yes, sir.
28:04Do you have...
28:05Do you guys, by chance, have, what, wood chippers to rent?
28:10We did not.
28:11Oh, do you...
28:12Do you know, like, another company around that does?
28:17Or...
28:17You know another company that rents out wood chippers?
28:21No.
28:22We did not.
28:23Alright, alright.
28:23Alright, thank you.
28:25Yep.
28:26Alright.
28:27You know anybody that rents those out?
28:29Y'all aren't going to, like, get me arrested.
28:31No.
28:32I mean, we're not...
28:33We're not cops, dude.
28:35Nothing like that.
28:36I mean, look, I've been honest with y'all.
28:38No.
28:38You have, man.
28:40I appreciate that.
28:41And we appreciate that.
28:41We've been very cordial with you as well, I mean.
28:44And I do...
28:45You know, considering the circumstances.
28:47And I do...
28:47And I do apologize.
28:48I mean...
28:49I can't apologize enough.
28:51I mean...
28:54I guess I just really, really wanted the attention.
28:57So they got here, man.
28:59What was going to happen?
29:00Please be honest.
29:01Honestly, nothing was going to happen.
29:05And honestly, when they knocked off wood...
29:06You said you were going to bust that...
29:08Wide open, Tony.
29:10Well, I know I did say that.
29:13But...
29:13Let's play another one.
29:15But when...
29:17I started actually thinking about it.
29:21Like...
29:22In between, like, this last phone call or text or whatever.
29:28I was...
29:29If they knocked on the door...
29:30You know the rules.
29:31Whatever you say, you know what you have to do, right?
29:35What the f*** is that?
29:37Me.
29:37Oh.
29:38Do it.
29:39That's him.
29:40I'm going to take your 13-year-old...
29:41And make it on version.
29:44Oh!
29:45Repeat that?
29:47Yeah.
29:47I'm going to take your 13-year-old...
29:49Make it on version.
29:51Oh, man.
29:52That sounds like a good idea, don't it?
29:55Do you...
29:55Do you think that you need to get some help, Tony?
29:59All honesty.
30:00Are you attracted to minors?
30:02No.
30:02Because that's not something that a normal human even says.
30:06No.
30:06No, look.
30:06Here's the deal, guys.
30:08Like I told you, I'm going back to Sunrise on Thursday or Friday...
30:13To get in the program again.
30:19You have to pay to get in there?
30:21No.
30:21Okay.
30:22No.
30:22Is that the woodchip pool?
30:24I heard somebody backing in out there.
30:28But, yeah, I know.
30:30I mean, some of the conversations you were having with her...
30:33Yes, I know.
30:34And like I said, I apologize for that.
30:36And I think it's just because I've had...
30:40Are the adults in the teens house together?
30:44No.
30:45I mean, there's no adults and teens in the same place.
30:49Okay.
30:49So the adults are all together...
30:51The teens are like Rush Creek here in Jay.
30:55Uh-huh.
30:56And New Life House Academy is where the girls are.
31:00Here?
31:01In...
31:02Yeah.
31:03For Teen Challenge.
31:04But you said CASH.
31:06Well, yeah.
31:08But CASH is a...
31:09Is a center...
31:10Is an all-male program.
31:12Okay.
31:13In...
31:14CASH, Oklahoma.
31:16Okay.
31:18And that's...
31:19You know...
31:19Let me say this.
31:21It's been five years since I've had...
31:27Any kind of attention that way towards me.
31:30You know, five years ago, that 11-year-old was six.
31:34Yeah, I know.
31:36Five years ago, that 13-year-old was eight.
31:38I know.
31:39Yeah.
31:40I know.
31:41But like I said, guys, it's been five years.
31:43Do you understand how many people we've heard this exact same story from?
31:47Well, I understand that, guys.
31:49That's because people like you are coming and preying on children, Tony.
31:54I am going back to Sunrise.
31:58I'm getting back to my roots.
32:00And I'm going to come out of that program again a better person than what I am.
32:04That's good.
32:05I hope...
32:05I really, really hope you do.
32:07I mean, that's what I'm going to do because that's what I need to do.
32:11So what are you struggling with?
32:14Right now?
32:15Well, you're going to Teen Challenge.
32:16That's for...
32:17I know a lot of people that's been there for drug addiction.
32:19Like, what are you struggling with?
32:22Are you going there just to get free room and board?
32:25I mean, if that is...
32:26I'm not judging you for it.
32:27I'm just saying...
32:27But there is probably an addict somewhere who needs that bed.
32:32And look...
32:33I mean, can't you go to the homeless shelter or...?
32:36There's no homeless shelter.
32:37Okay.
32:38I don't have any idea.
32:39Okay.
32:40I'm just asking.
32:41And...
32:42Yeah, I could go to...
32:43I could go to the shelter if I was in Tulsa, but it wouldn't do me any good.
32:49Right now, y'all just don't understand how jacked up my mind is.
32:55Oh, I do.
32:56I heard your phone calls with that young girl.
32:58Well, I mean...
32:59No, like...
33:00Mentally...
33:01Like, how many places my head is at?
33:04I heard you ask that young girl for nude photos of her.
33:08I heard you ask her for photos of her in her panties.
33:11I heard you ask her if she could video call you while you masturbate
33:18and while she is naked.
33:21Tony?
33:24Hang on.
33:26My...
33:27My ex-wife is messaging me.
33:29What did she say?
33:30Okay.
33:31She was trying to tell me about an Uber to toss us so I could take a bus to cash.
33:38Okay.
33:39Um...
33:40No, guys.
33:40It was...
33:40What are you drinking on right there?
33:42Venom.
33:43Oh, f**k Venom, dude.
33:44I love monsters, dude.
33:45I like monsters.
33:46Yeah, monsters are pretty good, dude.
33:48But these are like $1.30 a piece.
33:50Oh, man.
33:51Yeah.
33:53Um...
33:53My dick, my dick.
33:53Energy on a budget.
33:55My dick, my dick.
33:56But yeah, you wanted to masturbate with her on the video call.
33:59And her be naked, Tony.
34:01Hey, guys.
34:03Do you understand that children don't have to leave their house to even be victimized
34:07by...
34:07Just like you...
34:08You called yourself a pervert.
34:10Guys.
34:10By perverts like you.
34:12Yeah.
34:13Like I said, I'm not proud of it.
34:15Well, you shouldn't be.
34:17I mean...
34:18If you were proud of it, it would be a different story here.
34:21If you guys only knew how like...
34:24Not just with this, but like the things that I've...
34:30What other evil stuff do you do?
34:32I don't do anything really evil, but besides this, and this is the first time I've done
34:39it.
34:40You watch a lot of...
34:41No.
34:43No.
34:43No.
34:43So you feel lonely.
34:45No sexual attention.
34:46That's what you're craving, but you don't watch...
34:48No.
34:49And there's a reason I don't watch it.
34:51What's the reason?
34:52Because I...
34:57I...
34:58I...
34:58I...
34:59I continuously have this hope that my marriage would get better.
35:02You just told me you didn't even like the girl.
35:04No, but I hoped it would get better while I was in it.
35:09You know what I mean?
35:10Like while you're still in it, you want it to work.
35:14Yeah.
35:14I mean...
35:15When it's over...
35:15From what you said about 20 minutes ago, it was a completely different story.
35:19But when it's over, like when I was in the marriage...
35:24Call your wife and tell her you love her and you want to get back with her.
35:28I don't...
35:29Tell her you're going to bust that s*** wide open.
35:31I don't...
35:32Did you send...
35:33When y'all were married, did you send her messages like that?
35:35That you were going to bust her s*** wide open?
35:38No, I didn't.
35:39With your wife?
35:40Well, no wonder she didn't want to be with you.
35:41Maybe she didn't know you wanted to bust that s*** wide open.
35:44Well, look guys, like I said, when I was married and I was in the marriage, I would do anything
35:51I had to do to try to make it work.
35:52I heard you call her fat on the phone call.
35:55Who?
35:56You're not...
35:57I mean, you're built good.
35:58You are built good.
35:59I know I'm fat.
35:59Trust me.
36:00I weigh like 310 guys.
36:02Okay.
36:02Well, you called her fat.
36:04310.
36:05If he ain't 310, he ain't a man.
36:08I mean...
36:09I heard you call her fat.
36:11Well, I actually like this fat.
36:13Okay.
36:14I mean...
36:14She's almost 380, man.
36:16She's like 5'5 and weighs like 340.
36:19I mean, that's, you know, it is what it is.
36:21Yeah, right, right, right.
36:23I mean, nobody's body shaming here, dude.
36:26But...
36:27At all.
36:27Man, when I was in the marriage, I would do anything I had to do to make it work.
36:33Right.
36:34Like what?
36:35Give me an example of what you've done to make it work.
36:37Hey, real quick though.
36:39She cheated on me four times and I stayed with her.
36:42While you were talking to Haley, you were here?
36:46Yes.
36:46In this room?
36:48Yes.
36:49Okay.
36:49I was just curious.
36:51I know another lady named Haley, not the 13-year-old, but this is a lady named Haley.
36:57She's a piece of news reporter.
37:01Could you look right into this camera and just say...
37:03Hold on.
37:04Let me ask you first.
37:05Do you think you're a vulnerable victim?
37:07No.
37:07Okay.
37:08We're on the same page here.
37:10No.
37:10No, listen.
37:11She likes to think you guys are vulnerable victims.
37:14But could you listen, Tony, could you just look into that camera and say, Haley Parsley,
37:19I'm not a vulnerable victim.
37:20You are.
37:22Haley Parsley, I'm not a vulnerable victim.
37:24You are.
37:25And one more thing.
37:26Could you look right here and say, I've been exposed by OPP.
37:29I've been exposed by OPP.
37:32Okay.
37:32Thank you, Tony.
37:33Dude, you're great.
37:34You rocked that out, bro.
37:36A lot of times they got to do it like three or four different times, man.
37:39Can you tell Haley's mom that you're sorry though?
37:42Honestly.
37:43I will say this.
37:47For Haley or to Haley and her family and anyone else that I hurt in this, I apologize and I'm
37:56very sorry and I shouldn't have done it.
37:59And I will clip that and make sure her mother sees it.
38:02For sure.
38:04For sure.
38:05For sure.
38:05For sure.
38:05Can we turn that camera off?
38:07I can't until I leave.
38:08It's just a protocol safety part of insurance, man.
38:12It's an insurance deal, man.
38:14You have to have all these cameras on.
38:16They're just backups, man.
38:18That's all.
38:18Okay, guys.
38:19Like I told you, here's the deal.
38:21When I was married, I would do anything I had to do to make it work.
38:23She cheated on me four times.
38:25I stayed with her.
38:27Why?
38:29I don't know.
38:31I wanted it to work.
38:33Are you desperate?
38:34No.
38:35No.
38:36No.
38:36I'm not desperate.
38:37I just...
38:39I mean, I can see if you were desperate.
38:41You're kind of f***ing in a f***ed up situation.
38:44So I can kind of see the desperation in real fast.
38:47I wanted my...
38:50Man, you...
38:52I had such a different vision for my life.
38:55Yeah.
38:55Did you ever do drugs or drink?
38:58Ever?
38:58I used to drink, but I didn't have a problem with it.
39:02And I did smoke weed.
39:03Weed?
39:04There's nothing wrong with weed.
39:05I did smoke weed from like 19 to 21.
39:07But when I turned 21, I realized I was the only one buying it.
39:11And everyone else was smoking it.
39:13So I quit buying it and I quit smoking it.
39:16Okay.
39:17It made more sense economically for me.
39:19Okay.
39:20Yeah.
39:21You know.
39:21You saved a lot of money, man.
39:23It got you here.
39:24And...
39:25It got you here at the motel.
39:27And yes, I...
39:28Yes, I did drink.
39:30I would drink.
39:30I would drink on the weekends.
39:32I'd go play golf and stuff.
39:33I'd drink...
39:33Liquor?
39:34Beer?
39:35Just beer.
39:36Okay.
39:37But...
39:38If I had to, I didn't have to go home and drink every night.
39:44Okay.
39:44Yeah.
39:44So you didn't have a problem.
39:46I didn't have to have a drink every night.
39:48I didn't have to have, you know, a beer.
39:51Right, right, right.
39:52If I came home, if I had a really hard day at work and I was still...
39:55So what do you think drove you to this point?
39:57I know you said you were lonely.
39:59It's been five years.
39:59But what drove you to have these type of conversations with a 13-year-old and an 11-year-old?
40:05Honestly, I couldn't even.
40:06Did you ever talk to the 11-year-old?
40:08No.
40:09Did you text her?
40:10No.
40:11No?
40:12Okay.
40:12Did you verify that phone number?
40:14That's what I was going to do.
40:16Just say the last four.
40:18That is your number, the...
40:21Yeah, the 7534.
40:23The what?
40:257534 is the last four.
40:277534?
40:28Yeah.
40:29Well, I got 1734.
40:31Oh, yeah.
40:32Do you have a text now number?
40:33It is.
40:34No, it is 1734.
40:35I'm sorry.
40:36Okay.
40:37I've had the same number for eight years.
40:41And I remembered it.
40:42Okay.
40:43But you don't have like a text now number?
40:45Or another phone number or internet number?
40:48No.
40:48Okay.
40:52What time is your wife supposed to be here?
40:54She's not.
40:55Oh.
40:58Um...
40:59She's not.
41:00And that's a good thing because...
41:02Where are you originally from?
41:04I'm originally from Stroud, Oklahoma.
41:06Stroud, okay.
41:07I don't know if you've heard of it.
41:08No, I have.
41:09They used to have the outlet malls there back when we were kids.
41:12Yeah.
41:13I worked there when it got blown away.
41:16Back in 2003.
41:19Yeah.
41:20Come on.
41:20So you're all signed in to Teen Challenge or you just pull up and you've already got
41:25a bed or...
41:26Yeah.
41:27When I get down...
41:27Teen Challenge just sounds like a horrible place for him to go.
41:31I don't know why.
41:31Something about Teen Challenge just doesn't sit right.
41:34It's Teen.
41:35It's Adult and Teen Challenge.
41:37Isn't it T-E-M or is it T-E-E-N?
41:40T-E-E-N.
41:41Oh, so Teen.
41:42Teen.
41:43Like Teenager.
41:43It's Adult and Teen Challenge.
41:44I mean, but I'm going to be at the mall facility.
41:48It's all malls.
41:49The staff is...
41:50So like once you got further in the program, could you be like one of the trusted ones
41:54that gets to go help with the minors?
41:58I don't think you need to be around minors, Tony.
42:00They don't help with minors.
42:02Kids.
42:02Well, I mean kids.
42:04Teen.
42:05Look.
42:05That's minors.
42:07Under 18.
42:08I promise you, I have every intention of being an intern again.
42:13Okay.
42:14But I had known intention of going back into the kitchen.
42:24Okay.
42:25Just, you know.
42:27First of all, it was rough.
42:29And that wasn't going to be there.
42:32And I felt like I wasn't getting through time anyway.
42:35So do you think that you could be taking a bed that an addict may need?
42:43You know what?
42:45Yes, I could.
42:48But...
42:49You have no problems.
42:51But yes, I do have problems.
42:53I mean, just because I don't have a problem with alcohol or drugs don't mean I have another
42:56issue in my life.
42:58Right.
42:59But that place is specifically for addicts and alcoholics, wouldn't you say or no?
43:04No, not necessarily.
43:06You know, the program says anyone with a life controlling issue.
43:11Okay.
43:12What's your life controlling issue?
43:14Right now?
43:15Yeah.
43:16It's just my head is so far jacked up.
43:19What's jacking it up?
43:22The divorce.
43:23The thought of being homeless.
43:25Losing my dog.
43:27You know, am I going to have enough money for a room?
43:32Or am I going to be sleeping out on the streets?
43:35So how'd you get the gig with the church to where they paid for it?
43:38You gave them like some sob story or something?
43:40No.
43:40No, I didn't give them a sob story.
43:43That's just what they do?
43:44I just, I told them what was going on.
43:47Okay.
43:47How many nights did they get you?
43:49For like a week or something?
43:51One night?
43:52Yeah.
43:53And dude, why would you waste your money on that lady, bro?
43:57You could have got another night.
43:59Son of a dumbass.
44:00I got played.
44:02Oh man.
44:03I mean, I can't say that, you know, I can't just-
44:07You've never heard about those people online that do that?
44:10Yeah, I've heard about it.
44:11But you just thought it was good?
44:14I thought it was cool.
44:15Okay.
44:18So you don't have, uh, no-
44:21What's he doing?
44:21I have no idea.
44:24Sounds like he's talking to me.
44:30We can go see if you want.
44:37I'm not long-forced man.
44:39I don't have handcuffs.
44:40I don't have nothing.
44:40I just, uh, am a concerned citizen.
44:44Hey, Tony.
44:45Uh, you're not going to-
44:48You're not going to invite any more 11-year-old or 13-year-olds here anymore?
44:53No.
44:53No.
44:54No.
44:55Mandy, come here, buddy.
44:57Hey, Tony.
44:57My name's Officer Byers from the J Police Department.
44:59This is my, uh, police chief, Rick Pike.
45:02Okay.
45:03I'm sorry, my dog.
45:04Okay, go ahead.
45:04How y'all doing?
45:05I'm gonna shake those hands and tell y'all I'm sorry.
45:07Okay.
45:08I'm a piece of shit right now.
45:09All right.
45:09But I'm not in a good place, didn't we?
45:12Okay.
45:12Well, I'm, again, my name's Officer Byers from the J Police Department.
45:16Okay.
45:16I have my chief with me, Rick Pike.
45:18Would you mind if we step inside the room and talk to you?
45:20No.
45:21You don't mind?
45:22No.
45:23He's been very honest with us, sir.
45:25Well, I can cross over any threshold or anything else.
45:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:28No, he's been, right, right, right, right.
45:29I was just saying, yeah, he's been very forthcoming and honest with us.
45:32I'll tell you like that.
45:32I'll tell you like I told them.
45:34Okay.
45:36What I did was wrong.
45:37I'm sorry, and it's not gonna happen again, ever.
45:41I am going to a program on Thursday or Friday, um, called the Dalton Teen Challenge
45:48in Cash, Oklahoma.
45:49Okay.
45:50And I'm gonna get my life back on the right track.
45:54Right now, I just got divorced.
45:57Okay.
45:58I'm gonna stop you right here for right now.
45:59All right.
46:00Tony, at no point in time have I read you your rights or asked you any questions or anything
46:05else that's going on, okay?
46:06Yeah.
46:07So everything that you're saying right now is complete utterance since you're given the
46:12information as free will, all right?
46:14So whatever you want to talk about, you can talk about.
46:16I'm not asking you any questions or anything else like that.
46:19What I'm doing is trying to protect you on your rights if you have the right to be signed
46:22and all that other stuff, but I'm not asking any questions.
46:24You can tell me what's going on.
46:26Am I going to jail?
46:27Am I going to jail?
46:28They have no idea what's even going on.
46:30I don't even know what's going on.
46:31Okay.
46:33Look, I'll just tell you like this.
46:36Namely, I'm in a very bad place.
46:37I'm going through a divorce.
46:39Okay.
46:40I'm basically homeless.
46:42I'm living in this motel right now.
46:43Okay.
46:44Until Thursday or Friday.
46:47Now, that being said-
46:48Sorry, sir.
46:49This is my partner, Officer Shaw.
46:51How are you doing?
46:52I'm all right?
46:53Like I said, basically, I'm basically homeless right now.
46:57This is my home right now.
46:58Okay.
46:59Okay.
47:03I'm going to be losing him because I'm going into that program.
47:08And right now, my head is just all kinds of jacked up.
47:13Okay.
47:14But why are we here?
47:18You're here because I was doing stupid shit online.
47:22How old were those two girls?
47:23With under age.
47:24How old were they?
47:25I think 13 and 11.
47:27And I was talking stupid.
47:28And you gave them this address to go to?
47:30Yes.
47:30Invited them here today?
47:32Yes, I did.
47:33But when they got here, I wasn't going to do anything.
47:36I was going to send them on their way because I knew in my mind it was wrong.
47:43Tony, did you say you were going to bust her?
47:45I'm quoting.
47:46Yes, I did.
47:46Did you say you were going to bust her body wide open and her virgin butthole open?
47:50Yes.
47:50Did you not say that?
47:51Yes, I did.
47:52Okay.
47:52And like I said, I'm sorry.
47:55I apologize for that.
47:57The marriage I was in for five years, there was no intimacy, no physical contact.
48:04I mean, there was nothing there.
48:06And honestly, it felt good just to get attention.
48:09Okay.
48:10Well, Tony, again, I'm going to say this once again, all right?
48:12The only question I ask you is if you mind if I'm going to step in your room, okay?
48:16I haven't asked you any questions about any kind of crimes or anything else like that.
48:19Everything that you're saying is just total utterance of your own free will.
48:24And all I'm doing is just here listening to you say it, okay?
48:27That's it.
48:28That's all.
48:28I just want to make sure that that's what you know.
48:31And as soon as I found out their age, I should have just left it alone.
48:37Sure.
48:38And I know that.
48:39But you invited them over here for a second.
48:43I did and I was going to turn them away when they got here.
48:47I'm not a bad person.
48:48I just, I made a stupid mistake.
48:52No.
48:52You made a stupid choice.
48:54A mistake is going to the grocery store and you got your grocery, your cart full of groceries.
48:59You get up to pay for your groceries and you've got your wallet at home.
49:02Okay.
49:03That's a mistake.
49:03What you did is a choice.
49:04Okay.
49:05Well, I made a dumb choice.
49:07Sir, do you have a driver's license ID card or anything on you?
49:10Yes.
49:10Okay.
49:13Well, like I said, it would not, it will not, would not and cannot ever happen again.
49:20Okay.
49:20And if you guys cut me a break, like I said, I'm going into this program Thursday or Friday.
49:26One thing I am going to ask you, have you ever been in any kind of trouble before?
49:30Have you ever been arrested for anything before?
49:31I did get in trouble in, uh, Duncan.
49:35I got arrested for a fraudulent pawn.
49:38Okay.
49:39The thing is, he's going to run your driver's license.
49:41We just want to try to see if somebody.
49:42You're out on probation?
49:43Um, no.
49:44I was on a five-year deferred sentence and I had him back in 17, so.
49:48Okay.
49:50All right.
49:50But yeah, no.
49:52I mean, like I said, man, just let me, let me do what I need to do to get back
49:58into that program,
49:59get my life right, and come out a better person, and, you know, maybe I can do one and help
50:09another man.
50:10How, how well are you at writing as far as writing down stuff or anything else like that?
50:16I mean, I can write.
50:17Okay.
50:18Barely.
50:18I had a stroke.
50:19Okay.
50:19I'm, I'm not worried about spelling or anything else like that, but.
50:23You can read or write.
50:24Would you be willing to write a statement exactly what, what all happened and everything?
50:29I'll tell, I, I will say exactly what happened.
50:32Okay.
50:32It's on the right.
50:32Okay.
50:33You want to write it out for me?
50:34I, I can't, like, write that much, but.
50:37No.
50:37Because I was right handed, I had a stroke on the right side.
50:40Well, like I said, I mean, if you want to fill me out of a voluntary statement again,
50:43it's completely voluntary.
50:45Look.
50:45Okay.
50:46I, I want to know that.
50:48Am I going to jail?
50:49No.
50:50As of right now, I don't believe that you're going to be going to jail.
50:52I don't believe you're going to be going to jail.
50:54I got to talk to my other officers, but I will tell you that actions will be taken.
50:59Okay.
51:00Okay.
51:01We can't ignore anything like that.
51:03All right.
51:04So it may not be today.
51:06It may not be tomorrow.
51:07It may not be next month.
51:09All right.
51:09All right.
51:10With the information that's given to me, and just the information that was given, I'm
51:15going to do a report upon it.
51:16Okay.
51:17I'm going to send that to the district attorney's office.
51:19The district attorney will review it, and then they will decide on what to do.
51:22Okay.
51:23Okay.
51:24Like I said, I'm all straight, blunt and to the point.
51:26Yeah.
51:26And after I talk, if I thought you were going to jail today, I'd say, yes, 100% you're
51:30going to jail.
51:31And Tony, I had to report this.
51:32I couldn't go, I couldn't leave here without reporting this.
51:35Look, I'm.
51:36I'd be a piece of shit if I didn't report this.
51:38I understand, guys.
51:39Okay.
51:39I'm not mad at you.
51:40I'm not mad at anyone.
51:41I mean, this is, this wasn't on you.
51:44It wasn't on you.
51:44It was on me.
51:45Do you want to try to write out a voluntary statement?
51:47Again, it's voluntary.
51:48If you'd say no, that's fine.
51:51I would have fucking write, man, but I can't write.
51:53I can, I can.
51:54I will tell.
51:56I will.
51:57We've got a verbal right here.
51:59We're good.
51:59I will give a statement.
52:02But I, yes, I did say a bunch of .
52:05I did say I wanted to bust her .
52:11You wanted to fuck her 13 year old.
52:14Yes.
52:14Okay.
52:15Okay.
52:16I did say all that and I'm sorry.
52:18Okay.
52:19You know, I shouldn't have done it.
52:21I know I shouldn't have done it.
52:23Well, anytime, I'll tell you the way I do my reports.
52:26Anytime I take a report from anybody, I take down all the information, every quote, everything
52:31that was said.
52:32Okay.
52:33You know what I give it to me.
52:34And then the person was .
52:36Okay.
52:37And it will show 100% that she was .
52:39But again, I didn't ask, I didn't, I didn't question you or anything else like that.
52:45That's all just a complete voluntary utterance statement right now.
52:48Yeah.
52:49Look.
52:49So this is where they met on an app called Meet, Meet Meet?
52:53Meet 24.
52:54Meet 24.
52:55This is his profile.
52:57You can scroll through this.
52:59Okay.
52:59This is a .
53:01Yeah.
53:01It's all on a drive.
53:02We can email everything.
53:03That would be great.
53:04There's phone calls, everything.
53:06That would be great.
53:06It would be fine.
53:07I can play you some clips of the phone calls real quick.
53:09I mean.
53:10Just like a short clip.
53:11Just so you, you know, you know.
53:13Dude, like I said, I said some stupid, stupid stuff.
53:18Okay.
53:18And I admit it.
53:21And the thing is, if I reflect, my report will reflect your statement there.
53:25I said some stupid stuff.
53:27I made the, you know, again, he corrected you as far as not a mistake.
53:32It was a choice.
53:32Yeah.
53:32That you made a stupid choice.
53:34I did make a very dumb choice, sir.
53:37Right.
53:38Okay.
53:38We'll go from there.
53:38Damn it.
53:40Why?
53:41Quit.
53:42Sorry.
53:43My dog is.
53:45My 13 year old.
53:49Huh.
53:52Okay.
53:55We've got three clips to play for.
53:57I'm going to make it happen.
53:59Multiple times.
54:01You're going to make it happen?
54:03Yeah.
54:04How are you going to make it?
54:07Oh, I have weights.
54:11Okay.
54:12Well, like I said, I said some dumb stuff.
54:17And I said stuff I shouldn't say.
54:19You know the rules.
54:21Whatever you say, you know what you have to do, right?
54:23I mean, here, but I need.
54:27Do it.
54:29Hold on.
54:29I'm going to take your 13 year old and make it on version.
54:34Oh, repeat that?
54:36I'm going to take your 13 year old and make it on version.
54:40Oh, man.
54:42It's hard to listen to, huh?
54:43It's so many good ideas, don't it?
54:45It is.
54:45If you can, like I said, all the stuff that you guys have.
54:48Absolutely.
54:49We've got it.
54:50We'll go from there.
54:51Chief, I have told him repetitively that I'm not, I'm not asked him any kind of questions
54:58or anything else like that.
55:00Everything that he's saying is saying I was on free will and just utterances.
55:04And you have that all recorded as well.
55:06Well, I told him I would be doing a report up.
55:09He asked if he was going to jail.
55:11I said, as of right now, I don't believe so.
55:13I said, it all depends on, you know, meeting with my chief to go from there.
55:17But the report will be done, okay?
55:20All the evidence and everything else that they have, they're giving it to me.
55:24And I'll put down everything in the report, including you saying that you've made a stupid
55:28choice or a bad choice, okay?
55:30And there are many times that you said that you were sorry, okay?
55:33It will all be introduced to the report.
55:36All right.
55:37I'll send it to the DA's office, the DA will review it, and then we'll go from there on.
55:42Okay?
55:43I just, man, I don't know.
55:48I don't even know where my head is at right now.
55:50Okay.
55:51I mean, honestly, I'm losing him.
55:56That's my best friend.
55:57Okay.
55:58I lost my wife.
56:00I was going to be homeless if it wouldn't have been for the program at Teen Challenge.
56:07I know for a fact that I could not handle all that.
56:17And if I would have ended up homeless, I can almost guarantee you 100% I would be dead.
56:25Like...
56:26Hey, Jims.
56:26Can I talk to you two outside real quick?
56:28Yes, sir.
56:30Like...
56:31Got everything.
56:34Like, literally...
56:35I'm gonna need this real fast, y'all.
56:38Give me just a second, Chad.
56:41Yeah.
56:42I guess I'm going to jail tonight.
56:44Okay.
56:46B Heath test now!
56:53We're now with L P P.
56:55B
56:55B
56:56B
56:57Bo
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