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00:04monster on the way
00:06I've been exposed by OPP
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00:10I've been exposed by OPP
00:13I've been exposed by OPP
00:15I've been exposed by OPP
00:19I've been exposed by OPP
00:22I've been exposed by OPP
00:26Hey Jay over there?
00:28Yeah
00:28Okay, that's who we're looking for
00:29Oh. Yeah. Jay, it's for you. I don't know. Nothing. Nothing at all, man.
00:43I'm so sick. Can I help you? Yes. How you doing? I'm okay. You Jay? Are you Jay? I'm not
00:54talking
00:55to you. Jay, listen, man. You want to have a talk with us, dude. You want to have the
01:01talk with us. Right. And not... You know what I'm talking about. Do you know why we're
01:05here? Do you have any idea why we're here? Zoe? Yeah. Well, there you go. Okay. What's
01:14going on? I'll leave you alone. No. Hey, we just want to talk to you, man. That's it.
01:19We're not cops, man. I just want to talk to you about what's going on with Zoe.
01:23What? Just tell me. I don't know. You're a trespass. Just tell me. What? Tell you
01:29what? No, I just want to talk to you, man. Can you turn them off? Yeah. No, I will. I'll
01:34put this one in the car. This ain't going nowhere. This is just for protection, man. I don't
01:39know you. You don't know me. It's just to cover my ass on lawsuits, whatever. Just to prove
01:44that we're not here to hurt you. This video's not going anywhere. This is just to cover my
01:48ass. I mean, you obviously know why we're here, Jay. Okay. Now tell me. Tell me. Go.
01:53Well, you tell me. How old was Zoe? She said, but I don't mean anything. Well, that's why
02:00I want to talk to you, man, because you seem like a decent guy. Okay. And that's what she
02:04said. But her mom got a hold of her phone. Yeah. Mom found her phone. Okay. So I just
02:11want to talk to you. That's all. Hey. We're not alone. Can we start with the handshake? I think
02:18you're a good guy. Okay. All right. Thank you. We're not here for no harm, Jay. We just
02:25want to talk, though. That's it, Jay. I'll talk. I'll talk. Thank you. Could you look
02:30at us? No. How long have you been talking with Zoe? I don't know. For a while. Jay,
02:38man. No. But no. How long has it been going on? I don't know. This is you? Jay, do you
02:44want your family to know what you've been doing? Yeah, that's me. Okay. Jay, do you want
02:48your family to know what you've been doing? No, no. Talk to us. You want to go somewhere
02:52else? No. This is all your family here? Okay. We don't mean no harm to you. All right.
02:57I think you're a good guy. I really do. All right. So what's going on, man? I just, I just
03:04bored, man. Just internet bull****? Yeah. You know. Do we need to even start about what's
03:11in these messages? I mean, I've got them all. I've got them all. Yeah. I don't want to be
03:17in that camera, man. I'm telling you I have to. Can you turn the brightness down maybe a
03:21little bit? Yeah, sorry. I just want you to, you know. I won't talk to her anymore. That's
03:27why we're here. Her mom sent us to talk to you instead of. Is that better? The alternative.
03:32Is that better than the light? Yeah. Okay. We don't mean no harm to you. We're non-violent.
03:36We don't want no problems with you. Nothing like that. I want, I think we can get this
03:40cleared up with just a simple conversation. Yeah. I won't talk to her anymore. I promise.
03:44Okay. Well, that's a start. Okay. Yeah. What, do we even need to read through these?
03:50I already read them. I already sent them. So yeah, it's me sending them. Yeah. That's stupid.
03:55Yeah. Is that, uh, what, like why? I mean, you're still stupid. I was stupid. I was stupid, man.
04:05I don't know. Have you, have you, people came and talked to you about stuff like this
04:10before? No. Not just a first time I've been, so. Okay. Well, why'd you walk off as soon
04:15as we walked up? I mean, it's like this ain't new to you. You knew where you see. I've seen
04:19videos, bro. Okay. Okay. I got you. So why do you do this then? You know? Who do you watch?
04:25I don't know. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. That's not a good vape, bud. What is, what kind is
04:31this, Sonic? Oh man, it's triple berry. That's not good. I've got an apple in my throat. But
04:37I don't want any more. I don't want to say this on Facebook, bro. You want? That's not,
04:42dude. No, we're not on Facebook, bro. We literally only document this for our protection. All
04:49right. We pull up, look at us. We're pulling up at your house at what time? 10 o'clock at
04:54night. We don't know who you, you don't know us. We don't. How did you find me? Well,
05:00you know, I'm pretty good, man. I mean, that's what I do for a living. All right. But I'm
05:05not going to talk to her anymore. I go on my Facebook, go to a later block or delete her
05:08number and all that. I promise. How old was Zoe? 14, yeah. Okay. But I won't talk to her
05:14anymore. You didn't send her any, like, nude photographs or nothing. Okay. Well, fuck. Most
05:20of these guys, they're out there. Yeah, they're stupid. Yeah. I'm not doing that. You
05:24know. You know. Are you in a relationship with her? Well, you know, it's just, I thought,
05:31you know, I could be with her, but I don't mean it in that way. You know what I mean?
05:35But,
05:36you know, I'm stupid saying all that. But I'll leave her alone. I'll block her.
05:42Yeah. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Yeah. Well, you don't got to do
05:47all that. We,
05:49but you can't be talking to minors. I know, bro. I don't want to do that. I don't want to
05:54do that. I don't want to do that.
05:54I mean, that's, that's the whole reason we're here. I know. How old? Dude, dude,
05:58do kids typically hit you up on these apps? No, not really, no.
06:03um are you on what was it zangy yeah i'm on zangy okay and what else is there
06:12you got uh i got snapchat you got telegram no i can't get telegram for some reason my phone
06:18won't get uh you talk to many people on zangy i mean i get a not very many but i'm
06:26not going
06:26to talk to any more people except for family and friends that's it no i mean you can talk
06:31to people as long as they're adults you can't be talking to kids but uh where did you find us
06:37oh yeah i came across my thing like on facebook or something something like that yeah so uh
06:46how the hell do y'all get signal out here dude you got wi-fi uh yeah but i don't
06:51know the password
06:52i mean you're away the out in the middle of nowhere ain't you dude um
06:59zangy so tell me what's kind of going on over there we've been kind of monitoring
07:04yeah what's going on over there i don't like to hear from you man yeah that's the least of our
07:11worries right now man i i mean i've been we've been monitoring your zangy yeah oh wow intel guard
07:19yeah and it's just stupid stuff man and look we're gonna we know a lot of things that we're
07:25gonna ask you yeah and then some things we might not but we just want full honesty
07:32so you want to tell me what's been going on over there on those ups yeah because i'll put the
07:37chats
07:37away when those are done well i just we got that cleared up he's gonna delete her blocker or whatever
07:43okay this blocker will be fine you know you ain't gotta delete all your stuff or facebook
07:48don't be talking to kids man okay what's going on over on telegram or uh teleguard and uh zangy
07:53just being stupid like i was on that one i know kids i know i know man i know but
07:59i'm stupid i won't
08:00do it again i know but listen my thing is i delete those apps and i won't deadline them
08:05how how many videos do you think you might have over there on zangy and uh teleguard that we need
08:13to get rid of i mean i don't know you know what i'm talking about i know what you're talking
08:17about
08:17but i deleted them after you know seeing them what was the youngest you think was in some of those
08:23uh one they sent me is 10 or something like that about 10 years old what were they doing
08:29getting by an older by like an adult yeah were they boys or girls that were the kids or both
08:35or
08:35i'm not really for sure i wasn't paying attention okay but how long are these videos are they like
08:40an hour were they like white girls and black girls mexicans yeah white girls and i think but
08:47i like i said i'll delete all those ads okay that's listen that's we're not worried about her
08:53we're not even worried about you we're trying to save these kids that are being abused in these
08:57videos i'm not gonna i'm not saying you are man by any means but i think you can lead us
09:03to
09:03i mean is there anybody that sent you that stuff that you can remember like their screen name or
09:10their profile name or maybe even somebody you know that it's doing i mean i mean there's one is
09:17hell i don't i don't remember the name but i've seen the video they sent me a video and i
09:24asked how
09:25she was you know yeah told me now so do they sell this stuff online or they just yeah okay
09:31but you
09:31don't pay for it do they give like previews or something to people yeah like previews so like
09:36describe that to me i don't know it's like a little girl but an older dude so okay so when
09:42we say
09:42previews like how is it a pre like is it just a short video like okay how often do those
09:48get
09:48it i'm just gonna have a cigarette just one time a couple times but i get i mean you just
09:52get rid of
09:52it i get rid of it i don't download it are these in a group setting or is it people
09:57just one person
09:58sending it to you like if i send the money or whatever they send me a bit a group and
10:03all that
10:04crap how much so you how much money do you typically send these people nothing oh you never you just
10:09said you just said when you send them no no no if i send them okay they didn't send you
10:13anything
10:13all right but they just kind of give you a teaser teaser so are you is this in like i'm
10:18asking
10:18though is this in a group setting or are they just messaging you by yourself or are you in a
10:22group
10:22no no no no okay okay how many has that happened to uh quite often why is it because i
10:28heard those
10:28apps are pretty bad dude for that and like i said i've been monitoring it uh about how often does
10:34this do they send it to you i know you're not into this dude i know you're not hell no
10:40but
10:40how often does this get sent to you now last time i got one was like the other day but
10:47okay
10:48could you describe that one to me it's the one i just told you okay okay okay you're right teleguard
10:53or telegram teleguard teleguard i don't can't get telegram because that code won't send to my phone
11:00for some reason you got what kind of phone you got uh text now no your phone service oh ant
11:06-t
11:06okay yeah yeah yeah you get signal here sometimes it depends but but no i won't i won't talk to
11:15any
11:15more people i just talk to family friends yeah i want any of this and everything no and we don't
11:20either man like i said you're like the low-hanging fruit you know we want the big fish yeah you
11:26know
11:26that's why he asked you could you remember any of those usernames and do you know where they
11:30maybe are where they they're from nope so many out here so and they just keep breeding and breeding
11:53so uh you've had teleguard and zangy for quite a while right yeah and i deleted it and got a
12:01note
12:01so what which app was it they sent you that on the other day zangy or no no teleguard teleguard
12:08okay
12:08where did they find you no dude you have nothing to be nervous about bro um where did they find
12:14you
12:14i went to like a website to chat to people on teleguard no on uh some website i don't remember
12:22the website
12:23but that would help a lot though i mean chat iw or something like that chat i what did the
12:32other
12:32guy say earlier
12:35something similar yeah it was similar to that
12:38let me tell you she's been she's been talking to a few guys online so i'm sorry i'm not the
12:48only
12:48she was cheating on you man she was cheating on you i mean when we looked through her phone it
12:54was
12:55just bad it was pretty bad you know and you were one of the least worst yeah i mean you
13:01didn't there
13:01like any nudes or no no no i don't want to send them man that definitely would get me locked
13:07up
13:07did you uh ask her for any no no no for sure she sent me a picture one time with
13:14her in the towel
13:14that's okay but i mean like i said this is at least of all worries man like i said i'm
13:19trying to get
13:19the big fish right you know what i mean you're i just don't want any more visitors from like you
13:25guys you listen man i'm after i leave here you'll never see me again dude um well you guys
13:31contact i do no i mean contact who the cops here oh nah i mean and i'm trying to be
13:39a good guy
13:40that's why have you ever been in trouble or accused or been in trouble for like for this type of
13:44scenario no okay but i don't want to that's good man that's real good um that's a plus because a
13:52lot
13:52of guys we come in front of man you know they got it's like a pattern of behavior they keep
13:56doing
13:56it and doing it and doing it um like i said i'm on my phone and i'll delete her blocker
14:01what's the yeah mosquitoes are bad out here yeah they suck the blood out of you i mean i'm losing
14:07weight from work so yeah what do you think is like the youngest ones that you've seen them sending on
14:13there i don't really know but they talk all like they're younger and younger i mean like babies
14:19like babies sort of kind of yeah that's scary so how old was the one you said was
14:26getting on the video i think it was 10 or something damn
14:31that's crazy i just were the people that were doing it were they american
14:34supposed to be or were they brown or they black white guys white guys okay
14:41but i would never do that to a kid has anybody ever um remember what i said earlier i know
14:48some things like some things i might not know it's all you know you to be honest megalinks
14:55now they sent that's like if you send me money i'll send you this blah blah blah i'm not saying
15:01you've ever sent any money but anybody ever sent you a megalink before i really don't know what
15:06that means but you can explain it like it's a link that i i'm you click on and it just
15:15comes
15:15up with hundreds or thousands oh yeah but i don't click on the link i'm not that okay
15:19i'm saying have you ever clicked on one and there's just thousands of them okay but they
15:23do try to sell those yeah oh it's starting to rain man i wish you said that too
15:34yeah i just don't want any problems i'll leave it alone blockers and everything else yeah we
15:42i sleep past you over here and it's like who's with them yeah we got lost man why the fuck
15:50out
15:51here dude i have no idea where we were but no i'll block them and everything else yeah you
15:58got my monster yeah i'm a good which one you got oh i think i got like a purple one
16:05man
16:08yeah i'm gonna call oh your wife i'm not leaving i don't want you to get messed up on the
16:16screen
16:16thanks for getting my water man put this in here um so what's the youngest you think that has been
16:24sent to you and then maybe the oldest and i'm not when i say oldest i'm not talking adults i'm
16:29talking children dude it won't even let me answer her call bro i gotta get signal
16:41you just told me like 10 just like that one was that one i sent you was not
16:49you want to go on the porch um we are i mean it's just kind of this rain dude
16:57you'd be okay uh yeah i was getting rained on man but it'll be all right man a 14 year
17:06old girl
17:08um he's in a lot of conversation with him um her mom's got her admitted to us that he's
17:15like i said he told you a bunch of guys uh right now i'm not going to uh record in
17:24and make a report
17:24with you guys we gotta go talk to a few more guys man like they were watching me he's just
17:28willfully
17:29talking to us we're no well no we're not we're not law enforcement dude at all like i'm we're just
17:35concerned citizens man um i don't i don't i don't care if i get rained on no bother me it's
17:43just water
17:43both his wife's went where we are like 12 hours but so can i ask you what what are you
17:52going to do
17:52next time somebody tells you they're underage not talk to them all right i promise you that
17:57you got to block them man report them to whatever app they're on all right damn it dude yeah you
18:04want
18:04to go up there
18:05oh yeah
18:13i'll be better on this course yeah
18:14you're gonna get soaked out
18:19he's running run
18:21but no i'm not gonna try to do that
18:39i get it man but you gotta you can't talk to kids online man because think about this what if
18:45uh
18:46her dad i don't even know she i don't think she has a dad but she didn't mention a dad
18:50but but what if
18:51he you know because i got kids about that age man if i found some like that in my kid's
18:55phone dude
18:56you know what i mean do you got any kids or any uh how old are you okay you got
19:01any kids nieces
19:02nephews yeah i got plenty of those okay like you know think about that man what if we you know
19:07damn at 14
19:10where did the rain come from
19:12it is man
19:19but no i won't talk to them everything that's my wake-up call right now
19:25be careful there's spiders all over there too man
19:28y'all don't live over here what is this like the storage
19:33no this is the house but they're over there
19:37okay are y'all all family out here
19:40yeah my cousin's over there
19:47i don't want to talk to you guys i don't want to talk to you guys i'm not going to
19:50talk to them ever again
20:08i don't want to see any more of you guys
20:11well like we said that's the least of our worries man
20:14our worries are those videos online man that are being sent to you
20:20yeah if i can remember the stuff i could teach you guys it's got a card
20:25uh man yeah uh
20:27i mean
20:28or i can call somebody and tell them
20:32yeah man uh yeah just uh you could email it could you can you remember predator uh protecting kids
20:39usa yeah at gmail protecting kids usa at gmail
20:43yeah
20:45yeah i i remember all that crap i just tell you guys yeah i didn't get your name though
20:51i'm brad brad sonic
20:54what sonic i know it's strange
20:57like the hedgehog yeah yeah
20:59yeah in the fast food place okay yeah but no but no i won't do that in every camp i'm
21:08god's arms too
21:10i won't do it again this is my wake up call
21:14um did you ever
21:16sit and eat uh
21:19you're good not really no
21:22why is that
21:22yeah they're wrong
21:25you don't get along with her yeah
21:27we used to a long time ago
21:29i don't know
21:32it is what it is
21:33yeah the elder there
21:36might as well see
21:38probably
21:4115 13 7 8 9
21:45what do you got jay
21:46god damn
21:49oh really yeah so you got two really
21:55so are you jay
21:57do you do any like drugs or alcohol or no i'm just no i'm just trying to see if there's
22:01anything that clouded your judgment you know i'm just tired bro i've worked no not today i'm just saying to
22:06that you were talking to this kid like it was there anything clouding your judgment
22:10i was stupid like i was stupid
22:12i was stupid like i said i was stupid okay
22:14fair enough
22:16i'm tired now i've been up for a while
22:19so
22:21do the videos do they do they save
22:24no no they're just like on the app
22:27and i'll delete them yeah they're on the app
22:29yeah i'll delete that app
22:31delete every app if i need to
22:33but no i'm not gonna talk to anybody else
22:35that's the guys on the street
22:37guys aren't you
22:38well you already knew what we were here for man
22:41i had a feeling like i had a feeling i seen Oklahoma's like okay
22:44but yeah i'm not stupid and like i said i've seen some people like on
22:47facebook and all that
22:50but they're worse than me
22:51right right right
22:53you got a lot of problems man
22:55um
22:58how long has it been since you didn't see your kids
23:01i don't know what's that happening
23:03no i was just wondering i mean i was just
23:05no you're gonna tell the cops
23:06no no no
23:07you're recording me talking to you guys i'm not stupid
23:11here's what i'm asking you is
23:13if somebody did go
23:15if i'm not accusing you of anything
23:18i'm saying
23:20if
23:21if your kids were talked to
23:24like that house flip
23:25yes
23:25all right well
23:27i'm just asking like would there be any kind
23:30i'm just trying to make sure that's not why you don't see your kids
23:33no
23:33because anything happened to them
23:35no no no no
23:35okay
23:36i mean you know
23:37no
23:39i gotta ask
23:40right
23:42no i
23:43probably contact you guys or somebody like you guys in Arkansas or something
23:47right
23:48there's groups all out here in Arkansas
23:49man jay you know us coming up in here i really i mean and not no disrespect either
23:54but i really honestly thought we were going to be coming in i thought you were going to be retarded
23:59you're not retarded at all
24:01yeah not even the slightest
24:03no
24:03no i mean
24:04i'm not like i said i'm not no disrespect but i'm just like i don't mean that yeah we don't
24:09mean that disrespectful at all
24:10and they say a lot of people would come and call
24:13i've read all your messages man and that's because you just ask a lot of questions
24:19right
24:19everything was a question
24:21i just want to be you know
24:25i'm not i'm not supposed to be swelling something
24:27i mean i'm still learning stuff
24:31but you work a lot
24:32i mean you work a solid job
24:34hold a good job
24:35yeah
24:35it's alright
24:36it works i mean
24:38last past week two weeks all together i put a 104 hours in so yeah
24:43so you uh
24:46what is the sickest app like that you've seen that
24:51every one of them is
24:53they're all bad like that even facebook
24:56even facebook's getting bad though
24:58really
24:58i think so
24:59yeah
25:01i'm just uh
25:02i'm thinking about deleting facebook anyway
25:03eventually
25:05yeah but like snapchat
25:07yeah and delete that too
25:08yeah
25:09so are you talking to more than zoe
25:12no i just talk to zoe
25:13and then there's one talking to me like on
25:16you know kids i mean i don't care about grown ups
25:19you talk to adults man
25:21i mean there's somebody for everybody out there
25:23yeah but you know like i said i was stupid
25:25talking to her
25:27like i said i talked looking
25:29i don't know what happened
25:30i actually came across it
25:31and i was like
25:31you know
25:33she's like i said she's pretty you know
25:35yeah
25:35that's all i said
25:37and i'm like
25:37i'm stupid
25:40but other than that
25:41i won't do it again
25:42i promise
25:43so
25:46that's good
25:47i just don't want to
25:50talk anymore
25:51or not
25:52because i've got to go to church
25:54would it
25:55would uh
25:56you know like you know
25:57the youth pastor
25:59or nothing crazy like that
26:01no i don't know
26:01hey i have to ask
26:02right right right right right
26:04you know
26:04you don't like the daycare
26:06or supervisor
26:06or anything
26:08no no no no no
26:09okay so
26:09the videos that you have
26:11or seen
26:13i don't know
26:13you never made any or
26:15no okay
26:15hey i'm just asking man
26:18i mean you wouldn't believe
26:19half the
26:20i've heard
26:20yeah i know
26:21there's people out there
26:22that's
26:23right
26:24still put in my eyes
26:27but no i just don't want to be on
26:29i don't see me on facebook
26:30no
26:31we don't do facebook
26:32so
26:34uh
26:35mostly we just try to come out
26:36and get it solved with just a simple conversation
26:39and hope that we can change your ways
26:41if you're if you're struggling with you know
26:43i'm just
26:44some of that
26:45no i just won't talk to anybody else
26:47like that
26:48never again
26:49like i said it's my wake up call
26:51i needed something to wake me up and just finally do it
26:54but
26:55i don't talk to you
26:56have you uh
26:57talked to girls in the past that were younger
27:00no
27:00never
27:02so
27:03how deep are we into this
27:05those
27:06these cp videos man
27:08because like i told you man
27:09i've been monitoring a little
27:11yeah
27:11but i don't know
27:12i mean are you
27:13you ever
27:14a lot of them
27:15it's that many
27:17i don't remember how many
27:18well i mean i'll be talking
27:19give me a ballpark
27:22and about
27:22how over how long of a span
27:26i don't know
27:27it's been a while i guess
27:29i don't know
27:29i don't know man
27:31okay
27:31don't do drugs
27:32i get it man
27:33so
27:34thousands of cp videos
27:36or how many
27:37thousands
27:38hundreds
27:39i don't know
27:40i don't say
27:40like i said
27:41right
27:42do you ever send any to anybody else
27:44that you've done
27:45or like
27:46no i don't make videos bro
27:47no no no but that you've gotten offline
27:49no
27:50but maybe you try to get other ones from somebody
27:53no
27:54not really no
27:55no
27:56not really or no
27:57no
27:58i'm not that stupid
27:59i mean
28:00i don't know how to
28:01you know it's just
28:03they send them to me
28:04and it's like
28:04okay whatever
28:05and they say oh if you send me money
28:08i'll send you a bunch more huh
28:09i'll send you a bunch more
28:10and then they said i'll add you to a group or whatever
28:12and you know all this
28:14whatever
28:15whatever
28:15i'm not sending you stupid money out
28:17you know
28:18there's groups that are what
28:20just trading that
28:21back and forth
28:22yeah i mean they
28:22there's everybody in the world
28:24do they even hide it
28:25like or do they do
28:26do they use like
28:27do they use certain emojis or
28:29well they send a
28:30like a very short little clip
28:32of the
28:33like a preview
28:34plus the
28:35a video of uh
28:36the people that's in the group
28:38i don't know all their names
28:39you know what
28:39it's like all these people got this much
28:42and all this
28:42and you could be this
28:44it'd be yours if you send this
28:45is there like any screen names that you remember of any of the people
28:48not at the moment no i don't
28:50okay
28:50to be honest with you i don't
28:51i don't remember names like that
28:53all that
28:54all right
28:55i don't got a photographic memory anymore
28:57yeah no i hear you
28:58how old are you
28:5935
28:59okay
29:00yeah you're getting up there man
29:04yeah i don't wanna
29:07do it anymore i promise you
29:13can we close this out
29:14because i'm gonna need to go to bed soon
29:17yeah
29:17yeah
29:18get on my phone
29:19delete her
29:20man uh my
29:21i just have a few more things
29:22if you don't mind
29:23um
29:24i mean like i said if you don't mind
29:25uh
29:26do you have your phone
29:26i just
29:27it's a charging it
29:28it died on me earlier
29:30the
29:31ah
29:34do you think these people are in america
29:37doing this
29:38well
29:39probably i'm i'm not really for sure
29:41i mean there's probably people in america
29:44you know
29:45absolutely
29:45stuff around the world
29:46but do you think the ones that you saw
29:48look american i mean
29:50that's great
29:51did they have any accents in the video like that you could tell like how they sounded
29:55i can't tell an accent
29:57i can't tell an accent
29:58if i watch a movie then i could tell you an accent
29:59how was uh
30:00how was the kids reacting in the video
30:04kinda scared at first i guess you know
30:06i guess i don't know
30:08i mean were they screaming were they enjoying it
30:10it looked like that one was enjoying it i don't know how old
30:12the 10 year old
30:13i guess yeah
30:14yeah
30:15i don't know
30:16how old do you think the guy was that was on top over
30:1817 i think
30:20supposedly
30:21supposedly
30:22i don't know
30:23did you
30:23was it titled or something what was the video titled
30:26it wasn't titled anything
30:27okay
30:27were you
30:28do you really drive
30:31well
30:31i can drive yes
30:33i don't have
30:34but you weren't like planning to actually come
30:36no
30:36i had no
30:38okay
30:39it was just like a fantasy do or
30:41just somebody to talk to
30:42just to be a friend and stuff and
30:45you know what i mean
30:48um
30:49jay
30:50yeah
30:52this is a tough question man
30:54um
30:55i want an honest answer
30:56okay
30:56honest
30:58how many times
30:59have you
31:01mastered
31:02got carried away and masturbated to some of them videos
31:05be honest with me please
31:07i never have on them kind of videos
31:12on those videos no
31:13you sure
31:14yeah
31:15i'm sure
31:19yeah
31:20why in the hell would i do that
31:22well
31:22why are you
31:23getting hundreds of them sent to you
31:25no i don't get hundreds sent to me
31:27that's what you literally just said
31:28but you did jay
31:29i can get them if i send them money
31:32no i said how many do you know
31:33and you said not thousands but
31:35probably hundreds you said
31:37no
31:37that's not that many
31:39they're just short clips
31:41and i don't
31:42i don't
31:43treasure myself like that
31:44that's still
31:44but i'm just saying
31:45i'm not going to do it ever again
31:48can we get this done
31:49please
31:49please
31:50can you leave me the hell home
31:51i mean
31:53we can't hold you up
31:55like i said we're not cops
31:56you can do whatever you want
31:57i can't hold you here
31:58i can't you know
31:59i'm afraid that you're going to go from here to the cops
32:04well jay i wanted you to be honest with me
32:07i am honest with you bro
32:09i told you remember i told you there's some things i do
32:11and some things i might not know
32:13and some of the things i have asked you
32:15you haven't been completely truthful with me
32:17okay what do you want me to tell you
32:21jay how deep are you into this man
32:23please just like i said
32:24i'm not
32:25you've been being monitored
32:26okay
32:27you think everything online is uh
32:30i know safe you know
32:31yeah it's not dude
32:33i know bro
32:33at least thumb prints everywhere
32:34i know bro
32:35i won't do everything okay
32:38promise you
32:39you've heard of ip addresses right
32:40right i know
32:41yeah i got you
32:43dude now you're being uh smug
32:45no i'm not i got you
32:47i've watched videos of this man
32:48who do you watch
32:50i don't know they are
32:51what do they look like
32:53i don't know i don't
32:55they don't show their face
32:55they just catch the guys
32:57are you talking about the ones that beat people up
32:59i've seen one that beat one of them well
33:01yeah
33:01well we don't do that bro
33:03so
33:03i'm just saying
33:05i just
33:06what are you going to tell your family
33:09we were here for
33:11i don't know
33:13will they be mad if they know
33:15i don't know
33:16or do you think they just
33:19do you think they should know
33:20no
33:21not really no
33:22okay
33:23i mean i'm down to keep it that way you know
33:26i just want to keep it just between us three
33:29that's cool
33:30i just want to know
33:31i won't talk to anybody
33:32but is there somebody that can hold you accountable
33:36me
33:37just you
33:38me yeah
33:39and i'm super
33:41i just want to go to jail
33:43i mean i'm not here to put you in jail
33:46i don't have handcuffs
33:47i'm just a regular guy
33:48i'm a father and i'm raising children in these communities that
33:52people
33:53are trying to meet kids
33:55and have sex with them
33:56can you just turn the cameras off now
33:59i know you got a body cam on you
34:01i just
34:01yeah
34:02i know i'm not stupid
34:05i've watched videos bro
34:07i never said you were dumb
34:09i get it man
34:10he thought i was retarded
34:12that was before i met you man
34:14we didn't hear your voice or nothing like that you know
34:17i have no idea
34:20i just uh i hope that
34:21i've learned my lesson
34:23yes
34:23i mean i hope so
34:24i have bro
34:25i have
34:26like i said i'm gonna get on my phone
34:28delete her block her
34:30don't talk to her ever again
34:34so
34:36so nobody can hold you accountable
34:38no you can't tell nobody nothing like that
34:41i mean maybe talk to your pastor
34:44or something you know
34:45i mean if it's something you struggle with dude
34:48it's like it's like as bad as having a drug addiction
34:51and you know
34:53but no it's just stupid of me
34:55that's all me
34:56all me
34:57because i'm stupid
34:58all right
34:59stop
35:01i won't talk to her ever again
35:03this guy's on the street
35:06if i'm lying i can step out here
35:08and i tell him to track me down
35:09if i'm lying i'm dying
35:13i won't talk to anybody else
35:16i promise
35:18i don't want to see you guys ever again
35:20we're nice guys man
35:22you guys are nice
35:23except for being called a retard
35:24i think i was retarded
35:26i could act retarded if i wanted to
35:28but
35:29he's kind of
35:29he's kind of slow himself
35:31we're all slow and something
35:32yeah i hear you
35:34but
35:36i just leave her alone
35:38i don't talk to anybody else
35:41i promise you that
35:42i just
35:43hey how are you man
35:45just basically just no minders
35:47you can talk to him
35:48have you kind of heard what's going on
35:50bits and pieces
35:51i'm not sure what's going on
35:53but
35:55that's not those
35:56okay
35:57no
35:58i mean can he hold you accountable
36:00you think he can
36:01no
36:01i don't want nobody to know
36:03okay
36:06i mean
36:06that's part of the problem though jay
36:10you know if people just bury that
36:11so deep and they won't talk to people
36:13and
36:14i'll talk to my
36:15yeah i'll pray about
36:16i just don't want anybody else
36:20who all lives out here
36:21your mom
36:22everybody
36:22no my mom don't live here
36:24okay
36:24dad or something
36:25no
36:27no i just like i said
36:28i'm not doing it anymore
36:31sorry
36:34i'm just coming to that one
36:35okay
36:37that's
36:37i'm done
36:39do you have wifi i could get
36:41does it reach over here
36:43i don't know
36:45i don't know
36:45you got a left window
36:46okay i know i'm sorry
36:49but no i'm just
36:50i'm done with everything
36:52do you work far from here
36:54i work in clinton
36:55yeah
36:58do it work
36:58i just
36:59i don't want to talk about my job
37:01okay okay
37:01you're good bro
37:02i was just wondering
37:04i'm just done
37:08i'm done
37:09so do you think uh
37:11basically whenever i go back to the
37:13we can't help it
37:14what can i
37:15what can i tell her that we got accomplished
37:18that i won't talk to her again
37:20okay
37:26would you be willing to talk to her mom on the phone
37:29she'll probably yell at me
37:32no
37:33no
37:36i get it
37:37i get it
37:38i mean that would be a little bit of accountability
37:41i mean yeah
37:42but
37:43she might be making me more nervous than i already am
37:45the only
37:50i just don't want window here to talk to her in her talking
37:53but he can be here
37:54he's here probably
37:55yeah you're good
37:56i mean
37:57he's gonna know
37:58bro
37:58i mean
37:59he's pretty much heard most of it man
38:03i mean
38:04i don't want to talk anymore
38:05are you related
38:07he said that's his cousin
38:08okay
38:13yeah i just hope that
38:15you really
38:15you know
38:16stick to it man
38:17you can do it bro
38:20yeah i get it
38:21you're probably out here in the
38:22middle of god damn nowhere
38:24lonely
38:25you know
38:25yeah
38:26i ain't
38:27out here
38:28but that internet will get you in trouble bro
38:31yeah
38:31i won't do it anymore
38:34i promise
38:43i promise you i won't do it anymore
38:48i promise
38:52i promise you i won't do it anymore
38:55i promise
38:56i don't know
38:56i don't know
38:56because it's all home you know
38:57it's all home over
38:59so
39:00i mean you did tell her you know
39:04that you drive and all that
39:06so i was just
39:07i mean
39:07dude it took me hours to read through all of your chats
39:10yeah
39:11there's a lot of them
39:12yeah
39:13i mean this has been going on for a few months
39:15right
39:16so
39:18i won't talk to her again
39:20yeah
39:21i promise
39:23i promise
39:25i hope so man
39:26i don't know
39:28i'll go on my phone
39:29later and block her
39:31stick to the football man you're a huge
39:33what are you razorbacks fan
39:35yeah
39:35you know we're sooner fans man
39:37hey sooner won today
39:39so
39:39you know uh alabama
39:41baseball
39:42yeah
39:42yeah we were watching that at lunch when we were eating
39:45and i think you won 90's euro or something like that
39:47man
39:48hey
39:48uh on some of those apps do they use like the pizza emote or a football emote
39:55i'm not really for sure so i'm not for sure
40:02but i don't want to do this anymore
40:07well i hope you understand man that that internet is
40:10it'll get you in trouble dude
40:11right
40:14seriously you'll have people like us
40:15like
40:16goofy guys
40:17showing up to talk to you
40:19yeah
40:19we've been out all day
40:25i started out in oklahoma
40:27this morning
40:34yeah you called the
40:35we want to go to jail now
40:37no we got them
40:38i didn't call them
40:39maybe
40:39maybe one of them called them or something
40:41no you guys did
40:43well
40:47we got to make a report anyway
40:48we have to man
40:49we have to
40:50that's stupid
40:51hey how are y'all
40:52we're just having a conversation with jay here
40:55jay are you going to get rid of that child out of your phone
40:57i don't have any child
40:58will you just did you not tell me you had child in your phone three days ago
41:02that was a long time ago
41:03just a few days ago he's been getting child sent to him
41:06okay
41:07okay
41:07no i'm not going to jail
41:10you're not
41:10i'm not going to jail
41:11that's stupid
41:13nobody said you was
41:14no i'm just saying
41:15we'll try it out
41:16they have no idea what's going on
41:18they have no idea what's going on
41:21okay
41:21no why not
41:23oh
41:23yeah i got you
41:25yeah yes sir
41:25absolutely
41:26go ahead
41:26here super
41:29go by jay
41:31but what bro
41:32alright
41:33so what's going on
41:35so we run a group called oklahoma predator prevention
41:37we travel across the country
41:39we catch online child predators
41:42we came here had a cordial conversation with him
41:44he's been talking to one of our decoys for
41:47super how long has this been going?
41:49may 6th
41:50may 6th
41:51he reached out to our decoy on may 6th
41:53got graphic
41:55didn't really send no penis pictures
41:57but talked about trying to meet up with her
41:59have sex with her
42:00he asked for nude photos from her
42:03he came here to interview him about it
42:05it was cordial
42:05nobody was getting irate or anything
42:07everything was super cordial
42:08um
42:10we
42:11he told the decoy he had zangy and teleguard
42:15i've been doing this 8 years
42:17i know those apps are cesspools for child
42:20um
42:20so i asked him about the
42:22i don't
42:23yeah you're free to listen
42:25i mean i i hope somebody holds them accountable
42:27i really do
42:28honestly
42:29i know
42:30i know
42:31i know those apps are cesspools for cp
42:33i hear you
42:34i hear you
42:34so we asked him about uh
42:37teleguard
42:37what's going on over there
42:39he had told us that
42:40he's
42:41over the years
42:42he's gotten child
42:42sent to him
42:43i said when it's the last time
42:44you've gotten one cent
42:45he said just a few days ago
42:47he said it was about a 10 year old girl
42:48being
42:49by an older man
42:51um
42:52he said he
42:52i asked him how long it was
42:54you know just to see if he watched the full video
42:55it wasn't that long
42:56it was maybe 15-20 seconds long
42:58um
43:01he's been in child
43:02for a while
43:04okay
43:04so
43:06may 6th
43:07you're decoing and had a conversation
43:08yeah he he reached out
43:09yeah we have everything a to z
43:11ready to send over to you guys
43:13as well on an email
43:14your best profile
43:15and then
43:15there's a lot of chat
43:17i'll take you straight to the uh
43:19metadata
43:19i'm gonna go
43:20oh the text house
43:22yeah
43:24um
43:25and it's long
43:26i mean if you want to take the time to read it or i can kind of
43:29it's very long
43:32um
43:32but there was many times of solicitation of a minor in here
43:36um
43:38um
43:40asking to
43:42you know he wanted to get her nude in her bed
43:44talked about coming to oklahoma to meet her
43:49while i'm looking through this
43:51do you guys have your ideas
43:52yeah absolutely
43:53just yeah
43:54i'll go grab it
43:55can you probably answer
43:56ok
44:02but i do have this all screenshotted and ready to send over or whatever y'all need
44:07to do your thing you know
44:09ok what we're probably going to do is
44:12this is this is everything
44:13yes
44:14what we're probably going to do is
44:16uh
44:17we're probably going to need the whole thing just regardless
44:19right right
44:20uh
44:21i'll give you my email address my work email address and everything and have that sent over
44:24uh
44:24and i'll be putting their report and the best carriers will be notified about this
44:28can we at least cease this phone today with the cp of the mitten
44:32well let me
44:32i get it
44:34i got you
44:35right right
44:35see if we can get to that point ok
44:37that's a lot dude
44:38yeah you're
44:39he read it on the way out here
44:41it took a couple hours just to read this whole entire thread
44:46ok
44:47that's a lot
44:48i mean i can show you where the age was dropped multiple times throughout here
44:52how old was the decoy
44:5314
44:5314
44:54ok
44:56did she say that she was 14
44:58no
44:58many times
45:00many many many many times
45:01yeah
45:01man i mean and like i was telling him at this point i mean yeah this is still horrible
45:06this is still a felony itself but
45:08the cp having child on his phone is that that's the bad right there real bad
45:19yes sir
45:20how you doing buddy
45:21yeah absolutely
45:21doing all right
45:29yeah
45:29we're Dan with LPP
45:31yeah
45:32yeah
45:33yeah
45:33yeah
45:33yeah
45:33yeah
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