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The guys discuss the Miami Heat's new signing of 7’1” big man Arnas Sakenis from Southern Illinois University Edwardsville and 2026 Ohio Valley Conference Defensive Player of the Year. What is the possibility of LeBron James making his way back to Miami?

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00:00Miami heat got Giannis this week and a very exciting times down here in South Florida.
00:07Uh, they just, uh, they're, they're filling up some of their summer league roster Leroy
00:12and they got this giant intangibles.
00:15I mean, oh my goodness.
00:16He is, he's enormous Arnas Sakinas and he played for Southern Illinois university Edwardsville
00:25and he was the Ohio Valley conference defensive player of the year.
00:29Seven foot one.
00:33So just get a little play in 2030.
00:37Why are you doing that dude?
00:38Cause he's a big and he plays for the heat.
00:41Uh, yeah, but I don't know.
00:43I mean, imagine if he's playing, I mean, I mean, I mean, I think he's a little older, I would
00:46guess, you know, I don't know.
00:51You know, she's really a spot on with that.
00:53Yum yucking dude.
00:55Can't even enjoy Arnas for like two seconds.
00:59Well, that's what that is.
01:01That's what that is, dude.
01:02Wait a minute.
01:03I'm not the one that has issues with bigs.
01:08Huh?
01:11Like you say, I said, he'll, maybe he'll play him when he's, when it's 2030.
01:15I mean, you know how they treat bigs around here.
01:18So how is that being a Debbie downer?
01:21Well, I mean, why?
01:23Because just because of Kalel.
01:25No, all bigs.
01:27We've had this conversation before about how Spoh treats bigs.
01:31It's more young bigs.
01:32I don't know.
01:33You know, so you say, because he's a little bit older.
01:37So we'll might.
01:37I mean, I don't think, honestly, I don't think the guy from Southern, where the hell
01:41is he from?
01:42Illinois.
01:44No, he's not from Southern Illinois.
01:45He's from Southern Illinois, Edwardsville.
01:49So he's not.
01:50What is it?
01:51A Saluki?
01:52What's the Southern Illinois?
01:53Is that Northern Illinois?
01:55No, I think you're right.
01:56I think Southern Illinois is the Salukis.
01:58He doesn't, he doesn't play for Southern Illinois.
02:00He plays for Southern Illinois, Edwardsville.
02:02So they just drafted him because he was big.
02:04They're the Cougars.
02:05Well, they didn't draft him.
02:06They signed him.
02:07Signed him.
02:08All right.
02:10Southern Illinois, eight points, 8.8 points, 4.9 rebounds, and 1.1 blocks per game.
02:21Oh, 2.3 blocks per game last year.
02:24Right.
02:25All right.
02:25Listen to tangibles.
02:27Listen, Vlad Golden, that's putting you on notice, dude.
02:31We'll see what happens.
02:33We'll see what happens.
02:37Oh, crazy, man.
02:39That is.
02:41And that reminds me of, that reminds me of Cater Kohu, Texas A&M Commerce.
02:48Oh, oh, isn't that what Marco said he won the lottery?
02:56Oh, my God.
02:57That's an idiot.
02:59Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, and Sovin, as calm as he could be, he goes, no, no, it's not that
03:09type of a lot.
03:11He really is an idiot.
03:14He really is.
03:17He said, dude won a life lottery, not the Florida lottery.
03:22Unbelievable.
03:24So, I don't know what to do with this, but, like, Rich Paul seems to be dropping a lot of
03:30hints lately.
03:32About his boy?
03:34Yeah, about his guy.
03:35His guy.
03:37And the reports, again, are that the Lakers haven't even engaged with LeBron James on a contract.
03:44Now, I can tell you that, you know, everybody really has been saying for a while they think that he's
03:51going to end up with Cleveland.
03:55But Cleveland can't offer him that much money.
03:57I mean, they can all, straight out can only offer him $4 million.
04:00They could do a sign and trade for Jared Allen.
04:02I don't know if they want to do that.
04:04And then they could obviously pay him a little bit more.
04:07But the Heat do have this $15 million mid-level exception that they could just dole out for somebody.
04:16And I don't know, dude.
04:18Like, he's on his podcast and he's talking about number one options.
04:21Don't really have to be number one options.
04:23And, you know, shooting, the need for shooting can be misleading.
04:26And I'm like, what's he talking about, man?
04:29He's being weird.
04:30You know, and he's, like, being very complimentary about the Heat system.
04:34And he's being very, like, I think Giannis is going to work out in Miami.
04:39And I'm just, like, Rich Paul feels like he's up to something, dude.
04:43I don't know.
04:43I don't know what it is.
04:44But there may have been a pivot point here all of a sudden where they're, like, and Ethan Skolnick reported
04:51yesterday or said on Twitter yesterday that the Heat are going to at least explore it.
04:55You know, the possibility of LeBron coming in here.
04:57But, like, is this crazy, the idea that the Miami Heat would bring in LeBron James to pair with Bam
05:03and Giannis at his age?
05:06But very good.
05:10But is that wild?
05:11Like, is that a crazy way to go build this team?
05:14Because this was supposed to be, like, the Giannis and Bam build.
05:17But they, you know, I mean, like, LeBron's certainly a playmaker.
05:21We know that.
05:22You know, he's used that in the ball eight.
05:25Yep.
05:26I mean, it's not the greatest shooting team in the world, but they're very big.
05:30It's a large.
05:31Now you become a large team.
05:35I don't know, man.
05:36This is a little bit strange, all the breadcrumbs that are starting to be out there on social media.
05:41Right.
05:43I don't necessarily know how it fits.
05:49But I would say it is the type of signing that makes you think they just want a guy who
05:59could do everything.
06:00He don't have to be LeBron.
06:02LeBron, but can facilitate, can shoot a little bit, can get to the rim.
06:09He does a lot.
06:11And so maybe what will happen if he did come down here is that they could take one guy and
06:19fill three holes.
06:21Right?
06:22Not knowing how much he's going to be asked to play or how much he's going to be able to
06:26play.
06:26But the things that LeBron does would help the Heat.
06:33It's just that I don't know if they could expect him to be the LeBron that left here.
06:41Well, obviously not.
06:42Yeah.
06:43Well, we say that.
06:44But then if we watch a game and he's like being a 40-year-old.
06:49Well, I guess.
06:50And the thing that is that's, I guess, different about this team is like on the Lakers.
06:56That's a team with a lot of sieves on defense.
06:59Right.
07:00And no size.
07:01I mean, this is going to be a team with two dynamic big men with him.
07:07Defenders.
07:07Correct.
07:08They would obviously still need to find shooting in the other two spots.
07:13Which, you know, I mean, we've seen what the options are that are out there.
07:17It seems like there'll be viable, you know, minimum guys that they could bring in.
07:21Did you see the thing from Detroit that said sign and trade with Duncan and Powell?
07:30Yes, I have seen that.
07:33I am not quite sure if that's realistic because I do think that Duncan is love there.
07:40I don't think that they're going to be like super geeked up to just give them off.
07:44And they did open up more cast space.
07:46So I guess that depends on what Powell is expecting as a payday.
07:51So are they expecting to max out Norman Powell?
07:54Does Norman Powell have those kind of offers?
07:56Like, I don't think so.
07:57So who's to say that they don't get Norman and Duncan Robinson both in the fold?
08:01Now, Duncan's got a little bit of a weird deal because he only has like, I think, 3 million guaranteed
08:05this season.
08:06Um, but he's still on the books for whatever it is, 18.
08:10Right.
08:11So I don't know.
08:12That's, that's definitely an interesting one.
08:13And then the other thing with the LeBron part of this is, okay, does he sign in a mid-level
08:20exception with the heat or do the heat do a sign and trade if Wiggins opts in?
08:24And that's the other thing is we, we, we really don't have a ton of clarity until we have to
08:29opt in by Wiggins.
08:31His date is the 29th.
08:33Oh, so soon.
08:34Yeah.
08:35It's soon.
08:37Um, so I don't know.
08:39I don't know.
08:40Hopefully hope they don't pull an Anthony Carter.
08:44Remember that?
08:45Well, I don't think that paperwork didn't get in.
08:48I don't think that he would want them to pull an Anthony Carter.
08:50I think that they want him to sign.
08:51I think they want him.
08:52I think if the heat had their way, I think they would.
08:54I think they want Wiggins to opt in like all things.
08:59That's a good question.
09:00I don't know.
09:00I don't know if they want.
09:01Could they extend them and get some calories, some salary space?
09:06Yes, they could.
09:06He could opt out and sign a new deal with them.
09:08Yes.
09:09Right.
09:09But that's probably what they're talking about now.
09:11Probably.
09:12Yeah.
09:12They're probably asking.
09:13And, and to be honest with you, I mean, here's the thing that sucks.
09:20If he opts in, it's going to be hard playing knowing that at any point in time, you're the first
09:27contract to get traded.
09:30Yeah.
09:31That's a tough spot.
09:32It is.
09:33Right?
09:33It is.
09:33I mean, I guess it's just.
09:34You know, just because he's, he's a veteran, he's got family and, and he would rather avoid that and say,
09:41look, the same thing could happen.
09:43If you extend me, but I just want the security, you know, right.
09:52Of a couple of more years.
09:54And, and I, you know, I think they could work something out.
09:57Maybe they can do that and then give LeBron more money.
09:59The only thing if I was Wiggins is, you know, if I opt in, there's a lot more teams with
10:05a cap space next year.
10:06A lot more teams will be able to just give you free agent money.
10:11So there could be just.
10:12So you opt in and do the one year and just.
10:13Opt in.
10:14And then you just bet on yourself.
10:16He's always been a durable guy.
10:18He would be more likable if he was just more active.
10:23Right?
10:23I think everybody likes his skill set, but there's too many times during a game when you watch him, he's
10:29just not active.
10:31Yeah.
10:31He's just not a closer.
10:32Like he's not a, he's got everything along the way to fill in the cracks, but you know, he's, he's,
10:38you know, he, he almost like you see these flashes of like, this is the best public I've ever seen.
10:43And then like, it just goes away.
10:44It just goes and he won't shoot for a quarter and a half and he's just cool with it.
10:48You know, he, he's so laid back.
10:51I think that's the part, the other part of it that, you know, takes you near catches you off guard
10:58is that he won't do anything when he's having like, he'll have a great first quarter.
11:03And then he might not shoot until the second half and he's quiet.
11:08He's not, you know, he, it's almost like you want to check them for a heart rate every now and
11:15then.
11:15It just seems he's very, he's very, like, he's just a laid back dude.
11:20Brittany, you into a LeBron or Wiggins being on this team next year?
11:25This is tough.
11:26Cause like for the nostalgia and the story of it all, I want, I would love to have LeBron.
11:33LeBron, I just don't know at his age with this core, it makes the most sense.
11:42Do you think LeBron, do you think LeBron thinks he's got a better chance, Brittany to win with the Cavs
11:46or the heat with the Cavs?
11:49No, I disagree with that.
11:51Really?
11:51James Harden.
11:52He has to, yeah.
11:53James Harden.
11:54Like, I don't think LeBron and James Harden on the same team is something that I could even visualize.
12:00I agree with you.
12:01I think that's a weird, I think that's the weirdest fit of them all.
12:03It would be the weird, it would be way weirder than him coming to Miami, obviously.
12:07I don't even think it's a fit problem in Miami.
12:09I think it's just like a, an age thing.
12:13Like that's, I don't know.
12:15It's just weird.
12:16I can't imagine him here with this core.
12:20That just doesn't, it just feels odd.
12:24I mean, look, he's obviously got a long standing relationship with Spoh.
12:29He's got a lot of respect for Bam.
12:31I think Giannis adores him from like a, from like a, you know, respect growing up watching.
12:39But it is also like, this is supposed to be the Giannis build.
12:44Like does bringing in LeBron and all that entails of like, hey, this could be his last run.
12:49This could be his last ride.
12:51Um, do the, like, I obviously, I don't worry about Bam sacrificing.
12:55He's going to be fine.
12:57Like he's going to catch lobs from LeBron and they'll figure all that out.
13:01Um, but man, I, I mean, you, yeah.
13:05I mean, you want to talk about like one of the most talked about teams in the league.
13:10Like who's, who's not going to want to see what that looks like every single night.
13:14It would be so polarizing and it would be fun, but it's like, is that what, is that the direction
13:19that they want to go?
13:20I mean, we're two intangibles away.
13:21That's what we need.
13:22We need to, we're two intangibles away.
13:25We need two intangible shooters.
13:27Yeah.
13:27Yeah.
13:28You know, Pella Larson, I mean, Pella Larson is, is going to be like running into people left and right.
13:33You know, it's right into that team perfectly.
13:36Yeah.
13:37Well, he fits in with any team, let's be honest, but it'd be interesting because of like, that's a really
13:43like, you need to win right now.
13:45If we could just have Pella Larson, instead of going with the Shaolin monks, can we just have him go
13:50to a monastery with Wayne Ellington?
13:52And just, if we could get Pella Larson to be a 37% shooter, he was like 33 last year.
13:59Like if we could just get him somewhere where he's just like dangerous, leaving him open.
14:04And he's truly Swedish.
14:06There's not a lot of those guys.
14:08I know there's not.
14:08You're saying, you're sitting here saying, I wish somebody could become this.
14:12They, they don't exist.
14:15They're not out there.
14:16But if he could, I'm just saying, if he could, if we, if like, that's, I mean, that's a game.
14:20It's honestly a game changer for the heat.
14:22It's, it is, but I don't, but you, but you're right.
14:24Listen, when you're right, you're right.
14:25Like, you, you, you want a guy that's like, you say, I really wish that wide receiver could run a
14:304-2.
14:33So does he.
14:37Runs with the parachute behind him.
14:39You mean in front of him to pull him.
14:42You put the parachute behind you, it makes it tougher.
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