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00:31I'm sitting right here.
01:22I'm sitting right here.
01:29What?
01:30Oh, my God!
01:32Stop!
01:35He's a child.
01:36He has a right to privacy.
01:38He's a child.
02:04He's a child.
02:06He's a child.
02:08He's a child.
02:10He's a child!
02:12You're a child.
02:18You look like an adult.
02:22You're a child, right?
09:59Let's see.
10:01I'm just...
10:15Bye, bye!
10:16Bye!
10:18Bye!
10:19Bye!
10:19Bye!
10:21Bye!
10:22Bye!
10:22Bye!
10:24Bye!
10:32Hello, emergency. Which service do you require?
10:35Police. Somebody's urinated at a box.
10:39Okay. Are you in any place in your name?
10:40Yeah, but I live on my own.
10:42Could I take your name and address, please?
10:44Yeah.
10:47Hello? Could I have your address, please?
10:51Hello?
10:52It was a night. I made a mistake.
11:04Hello?
11:07Hello?
11:09Hello?
11:10Hello?
11:39Hello?
11:40Most of Carl's statement could easily be turned over.
11:43Wow. Nina really took the opportunity to vent.
11:47Is her statement to the police incorrect?
11:49No, I don't know. It just seems more like a character assassination.
11:55Why is there no statement from Jack?
11:58Jack?
12:00No, sorry. I just thought you might have something positive to add.
12:04If we could get back to Carl's statement.
12:06He also claims you invited him to the Lazarus Club.
12:09He's 15.
12:11Why on earth would I invite a kid to such a sleaze pit?
12:14You're often down there.
12:15Yeah, well, I told the police I just go there for a dance, you know, to let off steam.
12:20No judgement.
12:22What else am I supposed to do? Go to all bar one?
12:24Have a bottle of Pinot with girls?
12:27What do you do to let off steam?
12:29I go home to my family.
12:31Well, I like a bit of messy fun at a disco.
12:33Well, the police will be talking to anyone who knows you from the Lazarus.
12:39Well, I don't think they'll find anything out.
12:43Nothing illegal anyway.
12:46Did you ever talk about this aspect of your life with Kyle?
12:51I don't know.
12:52Um...
12:53The kids used to tease me.
12:55Ask me where I'd been out.
12:57I don't know.
12:57I think they...
12:58They liked the idea of me being a bit wild, I guess.
13:01I don't know.
13:03So, Kyle knew it might be a place you'd end up on a Friday night.
13:10Uh...
13:12Where are you going with this?
13:14I don't think...
13:17Kyle's story will hold up under cross-examination.
13:20I mean, look at him.
13:22His background.
13:23Mother lurching between boyfriends.
13:25Renting arrears.
13:26You know she was arrested for assault.
13:28And there's you.
13:30Outstanding references.
13:32Two years teaching at the prestigious Hillsden Grammar.
13:35And twelve years at Earlbridge.
13:37You really think I can go back to being a head of English after this?
13:40Well, once you're proven innocent...
13:42Earlbridge will never have me back.
13:45Poor Ken already stuck his neck out trying to get me the promotion.
13:48Have you seen what's being said about me?
13:51Unfortunately, I have.
13:52The police have found other material online.
13:56It's troubling.
13:57It's a forum where kids share pictures of so-called hot teachers.
14:04Upskirt shots.
14:06Fan fiction.
14:10What?
14:12Oh, my God.
14:14There was also a bet on who'd have sex with you first.
14:18Me?
14:20These have been taken while I've been teaching.
14:23But they're old.
14:26What, and kids are posting these?
14:28Yeah.
14:29I think when you see it all together like this,
14:32it's usually part of a feed so it moves really quickly.
14:37Most of this is years old.
14:38Not posted by Kyle, but...
14:40How is this relevant now?
14:42We can show the online culture around Kyle.
14:46How sex is normalised for these kids.
14:49They're not innocent victims.
14:51It's Kyle's word against yours.
14:53And we can build a profile.
14:55Kids like this are easy to break down.
14:57Kids like what?
14:59No, I don't want you breaking him down.
15:02I don't...
15:03I don't want him or me being dragged through the mud.
15:06You dissecting it, humiliating him.
15:09If we're to clear your name...
15:11How?
15:12How am I ever going to get away from this?
15:14How is my name ever going to be anything other than prefix
15:17but my pedo teacher?
15:58Good morning.
16:00The prodigal child returns.
16:03I assume you'll want your old room.
16:10You've got yourself in quite the pickle.
16:26I assume it's nonsense.
16:28Adolescents are inveterate liars.
16:30I'm surprised the police are taking it seriously at all.
16:34At least it's spelt correctly.
17:13Well...
17:28ORGAN PLAYS
18:06Ah, Janet.
18:08Will you be contributing at all to your living costs while you're lodging here?
18:11What?
18:12Oh, well, that's if you have an income currently, or is it all on hold pending investigation, eh?
18:19Really, you'd be within your rights to sue that lying little moron.
18:23I have some savings.
18:25It'll be a stretch finding a decent post even when you're cleared.
18:28And this sort of nonsense doesn't help.
18:40I presume that's it for press interest now?
18:45Oh, I've, um, been trying to get hold of your headmaster.
18:51Ken, why? What do you want with him?
18:54Well, I want his assurance that all this...
18:56No, I don't want you involved.
18:58It's fine, just leave it.
18:59It'll be over soon.
19:00Press will get bored, I'll go home.
19:02I don't want you involved.
19:03Oh, well, it rather looks like I am.
19:06You see, this is what we do, isn't it?
19:09You make a mess, I pick up the pieces.
19:12I don't want anything from you.
19:13Yeah, other than free board in my house.
19:15It's not your house, it's Mum's house.
19:26Oh.
19:34Oh, my God.
19:39Hi.
19:40Hello.
19:41OK, so I got your computer files back from the police.
19:44There's nothing of interest.
19:46No.
19:47How are you?
19:50I want the ground to swallow me up.
19:52I know what that means now.
19:54I really know.
19:56Isn't there someone you can stay with?
20:00I'm at my father's house.
20:02In my old room.
20:04That's good.
20:05That's good.
20:05That's nice.
20:06Oh, yeah.
20:08OK, so...
20:10The police did find something else.
20:12What?
20:13Pictures sent from a messaging app from your phone to Kyle's.
20:18It was sent the night just before Kyle alleges the offence occurred.
20:23Softly pornographic content.
20:25My breasts.
20:26What?
20:28What?
20:28What?
20:28No.
20:29I...
20:29I don't use that app.
20:30I don't...
20:31I have it.
20:33That's for kids to send each other shit.
20:35But they were on your phone.
20:37Well, I've never used it.
20:38I don't use it.
20:40OK, well...
20:41The police can trace who the account's registered to.
20:44No, but hang on.
20:45I do...
20:49I...
20:50Jack's saying something, but...
20:52I mean...
20:53I don't do social media.
20:55I don't even have Facebook.
20:56Seriously.
20:57The facts state otherwise, Jenna.
20:59And we'll be seen as grooming.
21:28The facts state otherwise, Jenna.
21:31I don'tw it.
21:50Oh, who was?
21:52Was that wise?
21:54There.
22:16Hello.
22:17Hi.
22:20I'm sorry I've not been in touch.
22:23It's all right, I wouldn't want to be in touch with me either, aren't I?
22:31Do you think it's a good idea, us meeting here?
22:34No, I just wanted...
22:36Are they okay? The kids, you know?
22:40When I feel so useless, I feel pointless, you know, sitting around waiting till all this,
22:46when I should be helping them, my year 11s.
22:50Listen, I was angry at that. I didn't know what to say or what to...
22:55It doesn't matter, no. Nothing's ever going to be the same.
22:59Are they okay, you know, with their exams and stuff?
23:04I mean, I feel like I've left them at such a crucial time, you know?
23:07It's taken on my mind not to reach out to them.
23:09I just feel like, you know, I was there one minute and then I was gone.
23:12I just hope... I hope they don't feel abandoned.
23:17No.
23:27That night...
23:28I don't know, I don't remember.
23:30I did want to get in touch.
23:32Soon, I did.
23:34I just... I didn't know where I stood.
23:38I didn't know where we stood.
23:40Listen...
23:44I know this is bad, but whatever's happened, I'm still his teacher.
23:49And, erm...
23:50I'd be breaking the terms of my veil.
23:53Could you give this to Kyle for me?
23:55Or you could just read it and tell him what's in it?
23:58I'm not your go-between.
24:00Is that what you wanted to meet?
24:02Here?
24:05Oh, my God, Jenna.
24:08It's all about him.
24:10No, I mean, that's his teacher.
24:12That's all I meant.
24:13You can read it.
24:14Jack!
24:18You, he's gonna hear it.
24:19You're all about to see him.
24:19You're all about to see him...
24:22Oh, my God.
24:26See you later...
24:26Oh, my God!
24:27Oh, my God.
24:29Bye.
24:29Bye.
24:30Bye.
24:37Bye.
24:46I forgot this.
24:49It's your thing the police didn't take.
25:21The hearing's in two weeks.
25:23We say how you want to plea, and then trial date is set.
25:27Why go to trial?
25:29Why?
25:30To defend your case.
25:32I don't remember anything.
25:34Look, if Kyle said it happened...
25:37then it happened.
25:40Sorry, are you saying you don't want to contest this boy's claim?
25:44Well, Kyle's a good kid, I know him.
25:46He wouldn't lie.
25:48I know my kids, they're all good kids.
25:50But me, I mean...
25:53Police start asking around about me, you know what they'll find out?
25:56I'm a slag.
25:58Chaotic slag with a drink problem.
26:01Can't even remember half the guy she slept with.
26:04Can't even remember sending these naked pictures from some app.
26:08They'll lay out my sad little car crash of a life
26:10for all the world to pour over.
26:12And then you'll dredge up all that stuff about Kyle.
26:15His mum's history.
26:16She got him into that school and she works hard.
26:19She even pays for extra tuition, you know, to give him the best.
26:22That's all hanging by a thread now.
26:24Nonetheless, once his statement is held up to scrutiny...
26:27No, scrutiny is what I do not want.
26:30I don't want to go to trial.
26:32Whatever I did...
26:35I'm guilty.
26:36You can't just...
26:40This case needs to be deliberated and judged.
26:45And also, I don't feel I can support a guilty plea if you didn't do it.
26:49I can yet enter a not guilty plea if I did do it.
26:53If you tell me you did it...
26:55No.
26:56I can't consciously support a not guilty plea.
27:07I don't know.
27:11You want to plead guilty to the charge of abuse of a position of trust?
27:18Sexual activity with a child?
27:19Yes.
27:21Yes.
27:21That holds a prison sentence of...
27:23Look, I don't care about the sentencing.
27:25I am not going to trial.
27:53I am not going to trial.
27:56I was just checking your book to cab.
27:59I was going to drive.
28:00Right.
28:00No.
28:02If you get a prison term, you'll be taken into custody right away.
28:05Make sure you bring cash, change of clothes, medication.
28:11You can buy cigarettes in prison, but you can't bring them in.
28:15And there are no phones allowed, so make sure you jot down any numbers.
28:21Jenna?
28:24Yes.
28:24We're just preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.
28:28You can still change it, please.
28:30No.
28:31No, no, I want to be sentenced.
28:32No trial.
28:41Offer a job interview.
28:42Are you going out somewhere?
28:46Yeah, I did tell you.
28:47Dry stone rolling course.
28:50Swaledale.
28:51Been booked for months.
29:12Try not to have any wild parties while I'm away.
29:25Myum.
29:27What?
29:37I'm sidech
29:38and I can do it.
29:38I can do it.
29:38No.
29:38Oh.
29:38Oh, God.
29:42Yes.
29:44There.
29:44Get out! Get out!
29:58Get out! Get out!
29:58He's driving!
29:59Get on the way down!
30:01He's driving! He's driving!
30:13Six months suspended is good, very good, considering.
30:16I didn't even know community payback was a thing.
30:19What do I have to do?
30:20Clean some graffiti or pick up some litter.
30:22200 hours is reasonable.
30:24In public, in a high-vis vest with everyone looking at me.
30:27It's supposed to be challenging.
30:29It's a punishment for a crime you committed.
30:31I'd rather have been locked up.
30:35Oh, God.
30:40Will I ever be able to teach again?
30:42We did cover this.
30:44You've been placed on the sex offenders register for ten years and...
30:48You're on the children's Bard list, which means it's a criminal offence to even apply for a teaching job.
30:54You can request removal in ten years' time.
30:58You were aware of this.
30:59I did suggest you please...
31:01Let's get you out of here.
31:05What's he doing at the sentencing?
31:15I'm so sorry.
31:16I've got a hearing to attend to.
31:18I've got a hearing from you.
31:24I'm so sorry.
31:27Oh, God.
31:28I'm sorry.
31:29You're so sorry.
31:46You're not so sorry.
31:48Let's go.
32:24Let's go.
32:56Let's go.
32:59Let's go.
33:31Let's go.
33:35Let's go.
34:01Let's go.
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36:07Let's go.
36:09Let's go.
36:11Let's go.
36:13promiscuity? Do I learn that my daughter's a pervert, a sex offender, a pedophile, for
36:20Christ's sake? You knew. You knew and you let me believe. What were you thinking? Haven't
36:33you made me miserable enough over the years, Emma? Well, as the attention faded, did you
36:41feel the need to drop another bombshell? Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's right. I fucked a kid so
36:47daddy wouldn't know it's me. Well, there it is. Hear the filth? The sarcasm when you should be abject, begging
36:53forgiveness? Hide it in your face!
37:09Dad? Oh, shit. Dad! Dad! Dad! Dad!
37:19Dad! Here, here, here. Get out of my way.
37:36What do you expect me to do next, Dad? Huh? Go hang for all I can.
37:42No, genuinely, I want to know. What do you think I'm going to do next?
37:46I don't know. I keep ruining my life. Keep shaming me until I can't show my face anymore.
37:54Oh, well, good. Good to know, because clearly I can. Clearly I'm getting a rise out of you,
37:58so I'll just keep on shaming upstanding pillar of the community, Roger, huh?
38:06Just take the fucking water!
38:22This is horrible.
38:26You're horrible.
38:29What have I ever done? Hmm? Do I deserve this? Really?
38:39You're just like your mother.
38:41Oh, good. There it is. I wondered how long until you trundled out your go-to put down.
38:46Just one big difference between me and Mum, Roger.
38:50I won't make your life easier by topping myself.
39:13All right. Two o'clock. Take a break.
39:21Six hours down. 294 to go. What are you in for, then? Out for.
39:28Sorry, you don't have to answer that. You just don't look like the usual offender.
39:35I'm a sex offender.
39:38What? Like?
40:04You guys want to pay fee-for? Yeah, sure. Nah, cut.
40:09What? Busy now you've got a baby coming?
40:11What? Facebook. Dude, you knocked up Ms Carvey.
40:15Fuck off. It was a joke, man.
40:17Where are you going? It's Rossi, Brian.
40:19You're still hanging out with him? I'm not hanging out with him, all right?
40:22He's my fucking tutor. You don't have such a dick all the time.
40:24All right, man.
40:34Kyle!
40:36Jenna! What's going on?
40:39Jenna!
40:57Kyle! Kyle!
41:03Kyle, please wait. Kyle!
41:12I'm sorry. I've been trying to get hold of you. I know I'm not supposed to, but I just want
41:17to say I'm so sorry.
41:18I just, I wanted to tell you that you did the right thing, okay? Going to the police. I don't
41:25resent or blame you for all the fallout. I just, I just, I just hope I haven't ruined intimacy for
41:32you, you know?
41:33I hope you can go on to have healthy relationships and not be affected by all this. Shit.
41:40Why did you plead guilty?
41:44Sorry?
41:46If you say that you don't remember what happened, then why did you plead guilty?
41:53Well, because you said, you said that's what happened.
41:57Well, you weren't supposed to.
42:13What happened?
42:30Yeah?
42:32D.I. Selby.
42:37Ahem.
42:43Is this a good time?
42:46Can I come in?
42:56I've had a report from your community payback supervisor.
43:01Look, I'm sorry, it was just a coincidence.
43:04I mean, he passed by. I couldn't just ignore it.
43:06Well, you're going to have to, Jenna.
43:09The terms of your sentence is very clear.
43:11I know, I get it. I didn't think so.
43:15Well, this time, you'll get away with a fine, but...
43:19You could end up going to prison. You do realise that?
43:24It's just hard, you know? I mean, this is a child I've taught for five years.
43:29I think about him, his welfare, his state of mind, you know?
43:33All the kids, not just him. I can't help it.
43:36I can't help it.
43:41Official warning delivered.
43:45Um...
43:46Listen, I just... I just wondered...
43:51If I'd have... not pleaded guilty...
43:55Would I have been convicted?
43:58I can't answer that.
44:04It really doesn't help to dwell too much on what-ifs.
44:08But just in your experience?
44:13I'd have pushed for a conviction.
44:17Whether the kid would have held it together under cross-examination.
44:21But, I mean, the CCTV footage and his voicemail,
44:24the instant messages sent to Kyle from my phone, the pictures,
44:27I mean, that would have incriminated me anyway, right?
44:29The instant message and account wasn't registered to you.
44:33What?
44:34You set it up under an alias,
44:35which shows your actions were premeditated.
44:38No.
44:39No, I didn't.
44:41OK.
44:43Um...
44:43These are questions for your solicitor.
45:10Ava Mansouri.
45:11Please leave a message.
45:13Ava is Jenna.
45:15I didn't send the naked pictures.
45:17Did we know that?
45:19Ava, I think he lied about us.
45:23Kyle lied.
45:38And the teacher continues tomorrow at nine.
45:41And if you or someone you know has been affected by any of the issues
45:44raised in tonight's programme,
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45:49Next, a brand new true crime documentary.
45:52A shocking case that unravelled in real time.
45:55Gabby Petito,
45:56the murder that gripped the world.
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45:59Bye.
46:02Gordon Smith
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