00:00so hi um nice to meet you in in person um so my my first question would be you have
00:10an intense
00:10background in bush that's correct and sent and sound work how does the physical discipline and
00:19philosophy of martial arts influence your mental and emotional preparation for a complex scene
00:29even when there's no fighting involved at all well that is a that's a really interesting question
00:37martial arts is a foundation of how i built my life um i was a very lost child until i
00:44started
00:45training and of course like learning the discipline and and just the approach to how to do anything
00:51um that is where i i learned that from um so in terms of the approach of a scene i
00:59think
01:00especially like a big scene there's so many moving pieces to a film set and you know as the actor
01:08you're
01:09at the center of it you're not necessarily the most important part but some days it certainly feels like
01:15it and when you're have a crew of like a hundred people everyone's trying to do their job perfectly
01:21at that right moment you also have to do your job perfectly at that right moment and so the pressure
01:27of that does feel quite heightened sometimes and and that makes it it brings me back to my competition
01:35days um so for wushu it's a it's a performance martial art and it's the same thing it all comes
01:42down to one moment because one mistake and and that's it there's no do-overs it's about consistency
01:48how often can you do it and so my approach to filmmaking is very much the same in that when
01:55i
01:55was competing i never tried to do like the craziest things possible because most of the time you're gonna
02:01fail and um for film sometimes you'll have the luxury of that but for the most part you just have
02:08a
02:08couple of takes to get it down and so i do what i know i can do 10 out of
02:1410 times and so i i approach
02:18a performance in the same way you know the first couple i'll just do what i know i can do
02:23play a
02:23pretty conservative and then if there's time the director usually opens up and says go crazy then
02:28i'll try weird stuff and and that's when you know you might fall in your flip face but sometimes it
02:35works
02:35out and that's what they keep so yeah it is a a similar approach i guess it's a a risk
02:40tolerance
02:41thing too do you uh prepare or make any um experience at home before the the scenes for this
02:51parts of going crazy uh yeah i think the preparation you can do obviously be familiar with your words
02:59and the sides um understanding where where the characters are in in that scene what your motivations
03:07are i think all of these things you want to be clear about so that you know how you can
03:11play around
03:11when you're on set it's going to look a little bit different than you imagined you know you don't know
03:18what the other actors are going to do just yet and so i think just being able to be present
03:22and in the
03:22moment um is very important and if you know the material a lot better like if you're really
03:31prepared then it allows you to be more aware of other things happening because you're not thinking
03:34about like i gotta remember my lines like you already know it you don't have to worry about it
03:38anymore so i think yeah the preparation definitely allows you to be more sensitive to other things
03:43thank you um kevin tran in supernatural uh resonated deeply with fans who often felt like outsiders
03:53thrown into a overwhelming situations what was the most uh profound interaction you've had
04:01where you realized you're acting as a real life anchor for someone watching you on screen
04:08i think it's going to these conventions like i i never thought of anything
04:12uh of my acting let alone anyone's acting being that powerful or useful to to life or the world
04:22um but when you start meeting the fans and you know you hear the stories of how
04:26you know a single tv show has shaped their life or saved it or or whatever like it's such a
04:33weird thing at
04:34first but the more you hear it the more you you understand it and the more you realize just how
04:41much power
04:42you know a story has um and that's i mean really encouraging it definitely makes me feel better
04:52about my choices in life but um at the same time it also encourages me to not give up on
04:59storytelling and filmmaking because you you know the effect that it can have on people and you know
05:05a whole new generation of storytellers you know need that inspiration as well to to keep the art alive
05:12it says that you're in in a in the good path in in the right way hopefully it seems so
05:20yeah you can try
05:22transitioning from an actor in massive franchises to producing your own films like empty by design
05:30is a massive leap of faith what was the exact moment or the specific frustration with the industry
05:38that made you say if i want the story told right i have to be the one to build it
05:45i wish i wish my
05:46statement was like that but i did a project the year before that worst thing ever still hasn't released
05:54but i i was very excited for this one too i was the lead actor it was for um a
06:03video game that i loved
06:06and i you know we were going through that project and me wondering like this doesn't make sense why
06:13are we doing this why why is this happening can we change this thing like this doesn't make sense
06:18for the game for the story and i i had so many complaints that you know because it just didn't
06:26make sense i didn't want to be difficult or anything it just didn't make sense it felt like
06:30they were trying to make a a game for these gamers of this game but they hadn't played the game
06:39before
06:39and so they're using this game as an excuse to not tell a good story and they yeah they
06:48they just they didn't understand the game or the storytelling process so i like i could not figure
06:53out what they're doing in the end it turns out they had lied to us they it wasn't actually the
06:59right deal they had spent a lot of money um but they're only trying to impress other investors to get
07:04more money and you know and i was the one like pointing out how terrible they were at their job
07:11it was
07:12such a weird experience i'm like okay so they they want us to be pawns in this thing and we're
07:20doing
07:20this terrible project you know under a guise and i i just felt so gross about it that i'm like
07:27okay
07:28well if i'm doing shitty projects i might as well do my own shitty projects like why not and so
07:33that's
07:34when i like on the flight back home with my producing partner now uh i'm like hey let's make
07:40our own thing because this was horrendous and you know with empty by design like we didn't have
07:46aspirations to make it anything except complete that was it um but it turned out to be the most fun
07:55project i've done in my life um but only because it was with the group of my best friends at
08:01the time
08:02that you know we just went on an adventure and made a movie so i think the next one we
08:07have to do the
08:08same thing but with a movie that's more commercially viable maybe it makes it makes sense yeah uh you've
08:15traveled the world meeting fans is there one specific quick interaction with a fan at a con that
08:23still leaves rent free in your head because it was just so incredible funny or heartbreaking
08:32um i mean there's a lot that sticks in my eye but i was just telling someone um the other
08:38day that
08:40this one always sticks in my mind and it's not it has nothing to do with the convention
08:43um i got nominated for a best actor award and it was a joke but my my manager asked me
08:54what i was
08:55gonna wear he's really into fashion and i responded like oh i left my suit in la maybe i'll just
08:59wear
09:00a dress and he responded in all caps like do not wear the dress i'm like oh why such strong
09:08feelings
09:08and my manager is so you know progressive he you know he doesn't care about it but i just thought
09:15it
09:15was such a strange thing and so for whatever reason in my mind i'm like i have to wear a
09:20dress now like
09:21there's no reason why no one should be able to wear a dress if they want to wear a dress
09:25i didn't even
09:26want to wear a dress um but we got into like our first argument he calls me like a week
09:31later he's
09:31like hey what are you doing i'm like i'm dress shopping currently and we like i'm in the dressing
09:38room i had a stylist outside and we're just like going off on each other for the first time in
09:43like a 20
09:44year relationship and you know he was just like look i have no problems with it but the industry
09:51is very conservative you know certainly in this part of the world like you cannot do stuff like
09:56this because it just kind of you know whatever the reason you know he's probably not wrong um but my
10:03response was like look if if people don't hire me because i wear a dress at an event i'm like
10:09i don't
10:09know if they're the kind of person i want to work with you know and sure that might be short
10:14-sighted
10:15or what have you but i i think at the end of the day i you know everyone's got to
10:18have their line
10:19their morals their ethics um you know within reason i guess but um for me it just didn't
10:28it felt like something that i had to do for whatever reason at the end of that call my stylist
10:34was outside waiting like for 45 minutes um for me to try on one dress and she's like
10:40okay two things one i'm not going to charge you for that that was really intense
10:44sorry you had to go through that um but two i just need to tell you that there's a little
10:50girl here
10:50with her mom and well not a little girl she was like um in high school and she's like and
10:56she wasn't
10:57going to go to prom because she wanted to wear a suit and she didn't think she was allowed to
11:04but
11:05she overheard her conversation and after that she's gonna wear a suit and and like she was uh very happy
11:12and so yeah anyways mom want to thank you for that i'm like damn i'm like okay i gotta wear
11:18this dress
11:19so like that one that one always sticks in my mind okay that's a good one yeah so i think
11:25we are
11:25out of time thank you so much thank you for this this time
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