00:00You have made a call for faster rapid adoption of efforts and measures to boost
00:06Europe's sovereign AI and tech capacity. Where are we in that journey? How much
00:11urgency is there right now in Brussels to get this done? I think now there is
00:16like huge demand for the European solutions because now technology is not
00:21only about economy, it's very much about our security, our resilience, our
00:26geopolitical power as well. And we have also recognized that because Europe has
00:30been of course very open for global investors, global businesses, but
00:34nowadays that kind of very global supply chains, they can be also weaponized
00:39against us. So we have to really look at what are the critical sectors where we
00:43have to build up our own capacity in the same time when we want to work with the
00:46trusted partners. So like AI, quantum computing, semiconductors, cybersecurity
00:52technologies, all very critical. When do we start to see the material results
00:57though of that push by you and the team at the Commission? It's true that it's not
01:01happening overnight because currently 80% of the technologies is coming outside of
01:05Europe. So of course it means that we have to really look at what are the
01:09critical sectors and now for example in AI we are investing heavily to
01:13infrastructure. So we are building a 19 AI factories really to boost the computing
01:18capacity that we can open this up for our startups. We have 8,000 startups in the
01:23European Union who are developing and training AI but the big obstacle for them
01:27is that they don't have access to computing capacity and in the same time we are
01:31now supporting our key industries also to uptake AI. You talked about the startups
01:35in Europe and there's a lot of strength there. There's more you could do to
01:39support the startup ecosystem though isn't there because the the AI omnibus so the
01:43softening of some of the rules really kind of benefits that the big tech and
01:48incumbent names and less the startups. Why not do more for Europe's startup
01:53ecosystem? We are all the time looking our rules at how we can make Europe easier
01:58and faster and simpler for the businesses especially of course for smaller
02:02companies. When it comes to startups we have huge potential there so we have 45,000
02:07startups socially but still it's too difficult to scale up their businesses in
02:11Europe and the main obstacles are very much related that there's too much
02:15barrier between member states and then access to capital. So these are the
02:19quick questions and that's why we launched now during the spring the idea of
02:23so-called EU Inc and we hope that European Council and our European Parliament they
02:28will adopt this regulation very soon that on next year it's possible to build or
02:32establish a company under European company law and then you are able to
02:36operate in all 27 member states under one company law. It's very important
02:41especially for startups but we also working with our Capital Markets Union to
02:45make it easier for the businesses really to scale up and have the funding from
02:49the European markets. And that has been that effort has been welcomed by
02:53founders in Europe I know that but I've also had founders say to me why is it
02:57the Brussels is focusing so much energy and time and effort regulating US tech
03:02and not supporting European startups. Why not put all that energy and focus and
03:07determination to supporting the European ecosystem rather than focusing on
03:11regulating US tech? I think this is about the same picture because of course when
03:15we speak about our digital atmosphere and environment we want to make sure that
03:19it's fair and democratic and safe and of course this is benefiting greatly
03:24European small businesses if we are making sure that nobody isn't creating
03:28monopolies to our tech environment and for example our Digital Markets Act is very
03:33much about that. So we don't want that the big tech companies who are having very
03:36dominant market position that they are misusing their market power and
03:40blocking new innovations from the market. How significant is it that the US
03:44administration has blocked the access to Anthropics most recent models? What is
03:49the reaction from Brussels? How will you respond? Of course this is very
03:54concerning and we see that when that kind of like mitigating measures are
03:59needed if there are security concerns it's very important of course discuss
04:03about these concerns together with trusted partners and when that kind of
04:07measures are needed they have to be proportionate and not discriminating
04:13trusted partners but in the same time it also tells how important it is that we
04:17have to build up our own capacity in critical technologies like AI that we
04:21shouldn't be too dependent on one company or the countries when we speak about AI for
04:27example. The export controls on Mythos and Fable 5 another wake-up call then for
04:33Europe? Yeah it really underlines how important it is to build up our own capacity
04:39in critical technologies but in the same time especially when it comes to these
04:44concerns about cyber security and AI we also share this concern of course and we
04:50are currently now working also in action plan in the European side really to look
04:53that how we have to address these new risks what these very capable models are
04:59posing in our cyber security environment and this is something where it's
05:02important to work together. Does Europe's cyber agency have access to Mythos? We had but
05:09now of course because of the export control now nobody isn't having access to
05:14this model because that was how Antropic was reacting to that. Are you in conversation with the Americans about getting
05:19access?
05:20Yes that was already provided to access and technically it was like ongoing
05:24currently but now because of this export control decision Antropic has like
05:31withdrawn access from everybody for those models because they can't now
05:36really also identify that who is US and national and who is not US and
05:41Do you expect to be able to get access to Mythos in the short to medium term? What are the
05:45conversations like with your US counterparts? With those companies with the AI
05:50service providers I think we have good dialogue in the European Union because
05:54here again we have legislation so we have our AI act in the European Union and it
05:59means that when the AI service providers when they are coming to our markets
06:05with very capable models they have to notify that to our AI office and also they
06:09have to access the risks and also now from August we will have also the
06:14enforcement power so it's also possible for us that we are also making requests
06:18for them to mitigate the risks or give access to the model. If Europe does not
06:22have access to Mythos what are the cyber security vulnerabilities? It leaves
06:28Europe exposed if we do not have access to this model. That's why it's very
06:31important that we are also working global level and with with our partners to
06:36address those risks so I think with those companies who are having with the very
06:40capable models I think we have also good dialogue with them but we can expect that
06:45there will be coming more that kind of models in the coming months and maybe not
06:50everybody coming from USA so it's very important also that we are well prepared
06:55when it comes to our cyber security because we know that these very capable
06:59models they are able to really identify in few hours that can vulnerabilities in our
07:04cyber security environment and that's why in few weeks time we will also
07:09adapt our action plan on cyber security where we are looking at what kind of new
07:13measures are really needed also in the European level. France is removing and
07:18replacing Palantir software the German military has done the same is that a
07:24measure that you welcome should Palantir be removed in other nations is it a risk?
07:30All the member states that they are assessing now the risks what they are having with
07:34their services and of course when we speak about very critical services like for
07:39example a defense industry and different information we are also sharing that
07:45opinion in the European Commission side for example that in cloud services we
07:50should use only European service providers when it's about defense so when
07:56when it's about very critical sectors of our society external internal security law
08:02enforcement defense in that kind of services it's very important that we
08:06are controlling the technology from Europe. Palantir is a vulnerability then if
08:09it's used in European defense systems? We haven't like assessed that in the
08:16European level but now some of our member states they have done risk assessment on
08:20that and they have made also their decisions based to that. Is the US still a
08:25trusted partner after all of this? USA is very important partner for European Union when it comes to
08:30a field of security defense and technology. Is it a trusted partner? It's important
08:35also for Europe to look that we don't have risky dependencies also that we are
08:40not too dependent in critical sectors of one country of one company and that's
08:45what we are now doing in the same time when we are of course cooperating with
08:49with our partners.
