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The K&C Masterpiece debated whether Nick Sirianni acting like a total psycho is the only way to coach the Eagles, if Justin Herbert is a lock to finally break into the elite top 5 tier, and much more in this edition of NFL Overreaction or Reality.
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00:00All right, NFL overreaction or reality.
00:07This is the year that Dak Prescott adds playoff success to his resume.
00:14I just saw a video of him trying to throw a pass and it got deflected.
00:20Don't worry, I can think of at least one reporter out there whose main job is to spin everything positive.
00:25It got deflected by Dee Winters, though.
00:27Oh, hey!
00:28How do we think about that, dude?
00:29Learning those linebacker spots!
00:31Yeah, let's go, baby!
00:34So, what was the question?
00:35This is the year that he puts it all together?
00:37No, that he adds playoff success to his resume.
00:40I think if this is a good defense, then yes.
00:46They can go multiple rounds deep into the playoffs.
00:50But they couldn't even make the playoffs with that defense last year.
00:54Right.
00:54And I really think that offense was so good and so potent that if you had had a reason...
01:00I think Jerry's right when he says if we could have played a lick of defense, we would have been
01:04in the playoffs.
01:05Yeah.
01:06So, they're dead on.
01:08They went this offseason.
01:10Invested in that.
01:12Right now, Christian Parker says today that Caleb Downs is as advertised.
01:18So, Kevin, I think this is the year because I'm also watching a video of him throw a beautiful pass
01:23to CeeDee Lamb.
01:25So, let's go, baby!
01:27Let's go!
01:28By the way, Christian Parker said one other thing.
01:31He was asked by Tim Cowshaw if he's comfortable with the title of defensive coordinator slash franchise savior.
01:40He said, quote, the first one, yes, because that's what I do.
01:45I mean, that's literally the title of his job.
01:47The second one, no, because it's about the collective.
01:50And I think that we're all equally the good or the bad.
01:56I'm just trying to do my part.
01:58And I love that answer.
02:01And I quickly threw it back on the players with that answer.
02:04Yeah, sure.
02:04Like, ultimately, it's on them.
02:06Well.
02:07I'll call the plays.
02:08That's my part.
02:09But, like, it feels like he's also giving them the credit.
02:12And he's saying all of us as a collective also get the blame.
02:15Yeah, he understands as the defensive coordinator that title comes with, I have to lead this defense in the classroom.
02:22I have to teach them.
02:23I have to be the one that has the sleepless nights trying to find the answers to the questions of
02:30the next test that we're going to have each week.
02:31Like, that's his job.
02:32I'm the one that has to do that.
02:34And then somehow, each week, I have to spin it around on those guys so that they are prepared for
02:40the moment.
02:41But they have to show up ready and willing to be prepared.
02:43It's also me and them that have to come up with the reasons to be excited each week to come
02:49up with all that together.
02:50So, looking forward to that for them.
02:53Now, Mr. Medford.
02:55Yeah, somebody goes, he's been in the building for a minute.
02:57Like, can we wait on the franchise savior part?
02:59Oh, yeah.
03:00No, no.
03:00Yeah.
03:01To be clear, I agree with you, Kalashaw.
03:05Okay.
03:05And so, to be clear, that's why I liked his answer.
03:08Now, Alec, I have a question specifically for you.
03:12Or an overreaction to reality specifically for you.
03:15Since Corey got one, now you get one.
03:18But the only way for Nick Sirianni to be successful as a coach is to kind of act like a
03:25psycho.
03:26Now, Saquon Barkley was talking about this.
03:29And he goes, when you're going against it, you can't stand it.
03:32And he says he remembered being annoyed by Nick Sirianni.
03:35And he goes, if you don't know Nick Sirianni, it's easy to not like Nick Sirianni.
03:40And Nick Sirianni was asked about muting his personality.
03:43And he said, F that, you've got to be you, especially in leadership roles.
03:49So, overreaction to reality, being Nick Sirianni as he is right now is the only way he knows how to
03:56be successful as a coach.
03:58Reality, because what does he do?
04:00Like, we still, he's how many years into this job as the Eagles head coach?
04:04And we still don't know what he actually does.
04:07Except win a Super Bowl.
04:08Exactly.
04:09And that's not to discredit him 100% because it's worked for a year.
04:13We've seen lots of success.
04:15He's had a lot of assistants come through that have gone on to get head coaching jobs and whatnot.
04:20Like, I get it, honestly.
04:22And if anything, it fits the Philadelphia mold, right?
04:26Everybody there loves him.
04:27Everybody there is like, that is the epitome.
04:30And I think Barkley's quote was a great example of that.
04:33Exactly.
04:33And then everybody outside of Philadelphia, especially in the NFC East, the other three
04:38fan bases and teams are like, that dude is the biggest dork ever.
04:43And he makes no sense as a head coach.
04:46But it works at times, at least.
04:48So, you know, I get it.
04:49Do you feel like you're the leader of that parade?
04:52Yes, 100%.
04:53I've felt that ever since I had to sit and have a 30-minute conversation with Elliot Shoreparks
05:00from WIP in Philadelphia, that altered my brain chemistry and my hatred for Philadelphia
05:06went up by about 10 times.
05:08Wow.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Outstanding.
05:10Good dude.
05:10Bad takes.
05:11Overreaction.
05:13Overreaction to reality.
05:15Justin Herbert will never be a true top five quarterback in the NFL.
05:23True top five is interesting because would you say that's over multiple years or just one
05:29season?
05:30I think probably multiple years.
05:33Okay.
05:34It's hard to change people's opinions.
05:36At the moment, I agree with that.
05:38There was like, he was on the trajectory to it and has not, has lacked the success in
05:44every phase to be that.
05:47There are numbers that you can be like, oh, this is good, this is good, but I think whenever
05:51you talk about the true top fives a lot of times, now, I think it's, I think it's
05:55really down to top three most of the time because it seems like four and five are so
06:00interchangeable based on a year, and it's difficult to keep somebody in each of those
06:04years, but we would look at it and say Lamar, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Stafford, Joe
06:12Burrow.
06:12Like, that's kind of the grouping right now that I look at, and I'm like, they're in
06:15contention for MVP most every year, and I just don't know Justin Herbert's going to
06:19get there yet.
06:20Mr. Medford, overreaction or reality, Justin Herbert will never be a true top five quarterback
06:26in the NFL.
06:27I talked myself out of my answer.
06:29I'm going to say overreaction.
06:31Oh!
06:31I think, for the fun of it, I think Mike McDaniel is going to figure something out for him that's
06:38going to put him to that upper echelon that we're like, you know what, maybe he has figured
06:43it out.
06:44Because for maybe six weeks or so, he fooled me into thinking that 2-0 is going to be
06:49decent.
06:50So if he can do that, I think Justin Herbert is a lot more talented in general.
06:54So I think you can get at least one season.
06:57Maybe it's this first year of the Mike McDaniel-Herbert partnership where I'm like, you know what?
07:02He looks top five to me.
07:04Dang it.
07:04I want him to be because he's so likable.
07:07So why not?
07:09McDaniel has not had this type of dynamic arm, and I think that could be the difference.
07:16If they can figure out their receiver situation, Alec could be right.
07:21Ooh, okay.
07:23Overreaction or reality, last season was the best we'll ever see from Bo Nix.
07:31Overreaction.
07:32Ooh.
07:32But I also like Bo Nix more than the regular humans.
07:37Or like the people that don't like Bo Nix.
07:42I don't know how many of them are out there, but you saw...
07:45Now, again, that defense was so good last year, Bo Nix couldn't fail.
07:50You know, they were so effective that you saw...
07:55They were in the AFC championship game, right?
07:59And had they had a competent quarterback, they smoked the Patriots, I believe.
08:04And I think that it's a far closer game in the Super Bowl than we even got.
08:11So I think Bo Nix will continue to grow and flourish.
08:17And it's now the Webb Davis offense now, right?
08:20Isn't that what it is?
08:21Ah, yes.
08:22It's no longer the Sean Payton offense, but Sean Payton's going to have his influence and
08:27fingerprints all over it, whether he's calling plays or not.
08:30Alec, overreaction or reality?
08:33Last season was the best we shall see from Bo Nix.
08:38Overreaction, I think the best is yet to come for him.
08:41I don't think he'll be one of those elite guys in the top five conversation that we were
08:47just having.
08:47I don't think he'll scrape that.
08:49I think he'll be that kind of week-to-week top 10 guy at one point.
08:53Just because Sean Payton knows how to design an offense, like Corey said, whether he's calling
08:57the plays or not, I think that's the perfect marriage.
09:01I mean, Bo Nix is enough of a psychopath to work with Sean Payton and figure it out.
09:07You see his eyes get real beady in the middle of games, and he's death-staring defenders
09:11down.
09:12I think he's got that competitive fire to where he won't allow himself to be much worse.
09:18It's interesting to me to hear y'all's takes on that, because I was just looking at some
09:22of the numbers, in addition to the team's success.
09:25Man, his yards per pass is shockingly low.
09:29For somebody who throws the ball a ton, you wouldn't have thought, like, I understand.
09:37What's the number?
09:38It's 6.4 this last year, and the year before that is 6.7.
09:42Like, if you can get it to 8, man, you're talking about in a really top-notch level right
09:49there.
09:49And I realize the more he throws the ball, that could lower the number some, but that
09:54is a dramatic step-down.
09:57Drew Brees' 5,000-yard season, two of his 5,000-yard season was 7.7 yards per attempt.
10:04Yes.
10:05And so, like, that's kind of the sweet spot for that number, I would assume.
10:09If you can get to 8.
10:118.2 was, actually, 8.5 was his highest.
10:13Then you're rocking and rolling.
10:14300 yards that year.
10:15But don't forget, though, how effective it was when Drew Brees was throwing Michael
10:22Thomas short routes.
10:23And that is one of the things that this offense is kind of built on.
10:28But that 7.7...
10:29Is this offense not also built on their really good defense?
10:32Absolutely.
10:33I started with that whenever we brought this up.
10:36I started with the defense was so good that you put that...
10:39You saw the AFC Championship game.
10:41It would have been a blowout with a better quarterback.
10:43So, I wonder, I think that's built into my Bo Nix thought, is if that defense takes
10:48any bit of a step back, it feels like it's naturally going to impact him some way or
10:53another.
10:53What's his completion percentage right now, if you happen to see that number?
10:58I didn't...
10:59Okay.
11:00I bet I could find it.
11:02Yeah, because I'm just looking at Drew Brees'...
11:04Here we go.
11:04Here we go.
11:05Okay.
11:0663% this last year.
11:08The year before, it was 66%, which I think is, like, close to average nowadays.
11:12Nowadays, I know back in the day, that would be crazy.
11:15You're like, 63% even?
11:17Wow!
11:17You're the greatest quarterback of all time!
11:19Drew Brees, in 2012, completed 63% of his passes for 5,177 yards and 43 touchdowns.
11:29Which, at the time, probably would have been a revolutionary...
11:32His career was 67-7.
11:34Yes.
11:35He was typically a...
11:36Like, he was in that 70 range frequently.
11:38Right.
11:39Drew Brees was a different quarterback.
11:41One of the most accurate quarterbacks I've ever seen come out of college football, and
11:45he continued to do that whenever he got with the coaching staff in New Orleans.
11:49Do you feel like he redefined what your completion percentage could be?
11:54Yeah.
11:54That's what I think so, too.
11:55And I know one of the things was, like, his aiming at his target.
11:59His target was your eyes, because he knew the ball would fall to your chest whenever
12:02he was...
12:02There were little nuances in the game that he was into.
12:05I'm not saying he's going to be Drew Brees.
12:08I'm saying working with a guy that understands how to take care of him will be better.
12:12But he does definitely need to work his numbers up.
12:15Kevin, Drew Brees' first year, 55%, 60%, 57%.
12:20Then whenever he gets to New Orleans, that number goes up.
12:24Sure.
12:25So, I agree with you.
12:27I'll give him a little more time to grow into it, and I can get more comfortable in the NFL.
12:32Now, yesterday, I asked y'all about, would you make the pick?
12:37So, instead, today, we're going to go with, will it happen?
12:41Overreaction or reality?
12:43Brandon Sorsby will go no later than the third round of the supplemental draft.
12:48Not should, will.
12:51Man, if his agent has anything to say about it.
12:54He should be the number one.
12:55He should be the number one.
12:56Like, why wouldn't you take a guy that's 6'3 and throws a ball like Brett Favre?
13:01Right.
13:03It was an interesting interview this morning.
13:06That is a good word for it.
13:09Because sometimes I get caught up in, how much do I want to believe an agent?
13:15And agents are very good at telling you the information that you want to hear.
13:20But I also think sometimes, you know, agents have a lot of information that you don't have.
13:27Because they're in the circle of it all.
13:30So, hearing him this morning was very interesting.
13:33And if 22 NFL teams are really calling about him right now, then I'm very fascinated to see.
13:40I think a team can definitely, here's what I would do, Kevin.
13:44If I'm a team that has a quarterback that is aging or doesn't really have a quarterback, but I have
13:51a year or so that I can work on it, I would definitely now look at this kid and say,
13:58if I have a plan, not only a plan for making sure he does not get into this trouble again,
14:04but if I have a plan to develop him, because I think he needed another year of football in college.
14:11For sure.
14:11I look at, I was reading, and I have it up right now, Ted Wynn did a story on him.
14:16Love Ted Wynn.
14:17And Ted Wynn's fantastic.
14:18Does really good stuff for the athletic.
14:20And he said, you watch this guy, his deep ball accuracy, 20 yards, tough.
14:26His deep ball accuracy overall, tough.
14:29He misses just as many as he makes.
14:31He's got a really good arm.
14:33He's got good arm strength, but it's not elite.
14:35You know, like, all these things that you're like, he still needed one more year of work.
14:39Like, so, it's kind of tough for me to say that it's so good that I can't pass up on
14:47this.
14:48I think third round sounds about right, though.
14:51Alec, overreaction or reality goes to you.
14:55Brendan Sorsby will be taken no later than the third round of the supplemental draft.
15:01Reality, I think he goes for a third.
15:04I think somebody takes him with a third round pick.
15:07Because there's some second buzz we've talked about.
15:09And I'm not sure who would be willing to take that risk.
15:13And just my favorite nugget about the supplemental draft, too, it's still conducted via email.
15:19That's how unimportant this is to the league and how ancient it is.
15:23So, yeah, there's no phone call or anything.
15:26Somebody is going to send the commissioner an email that says, I want Brendan Sorsby for a third round pick.
15:31It's going to be amazing.
15:32But, yeah, after listening to Ron Slavin, his agent, this morning on with Sean and RJ and Bobby,
15:38it's interesting because whenever he was talking about that, Corey, about, you know, the 22 teams that have reached out,
15:43and Sean followed up, what are those conversations like?
15:46And he's like, they want to know how fast he's going to run and how's the arm looking.
15:51And he was like, hey, these teams have already done their own independent research on this guy.
15:58They know everything they want to or need to know about the person already, which is crazy to me.
16:03But I think the fact that nobody's really questioning any of that to the agent,
16:08they're just like, is he going to run?
16:09Is he going to run the 40?
16:10I think he's getting taken.
16:12Okay.
16:12All right.
16:13Look, I'm very interested to see how this happens.
16:16Can I just add one thing that he was talking about?
16:18Add something.
16:19When you talked about you're interested in seeing who takes him is because the team's favorite and the betting odds
16:24are also the exact same teams that look like they're going to be effing terrible this year.
16:28So if you gave up that second round pick, you're talking about the top of the second round
16:34because you give up the spot where you would have been otherwise,
16:39as the Dallas Cowboys learned in a very famous way with Steve Walsh.
16:43So I'm with you on that.
16:46He had on deep passes over 20 yards, air yards, 33.9% last season and has been above 30
16:56% every year.
16:57Okay.
16:58But he said he has some pinpoint spectacular deep passes on film, but also a lot of bad misses.
17:06It's a scattershot deep accuracy.
17:08And then he says he can make every throw, but it's short of elite.
17:12Okay.
17:13So when it comes to arm talent.
17:15Exceptional arm, he can make every throw, but it's short of elite.
17:18I don't know if that changes with another year of college football,
17:22but is it going to change when he's a backup on a bench somewhere?
17:25Right.
17:25Is he going to get that experience he needs?
17:27So that's why I say if you're going to draft him, you better have a plan to develop him.
17:30Otherwise, let him go play in another league and go be the dude there so he gets the reps.
17:37You know, the timing of it all is interesting as well when you mentioned backup.
17:40So let's say you take him in the second round.
17:43There's no option year for year five.
17:45It's a four-year deal, and everyone seems to agree.
17:48Obviously, he'll be on the bench in the first year, and we'll see how it goes from there.
17:52Now, all of a sudden, you only have three years of cheap quarterback to develop and figure out before.
17:56Well, if you develop him, great, but then he's going to cost you a lot.
17:59It did sound like, though, Alec, this morning that the precedent, based on what the agent said,
18:07the precedent has been set with Booty that if you've gambled and you got in trouble,
18:11you're not going to be suspended in the NFL.
18:15I think the line that he threw out was, you can't just go around making up rules as you go.
18:20And I was like, what's he talking about?
18:21The NFL goes around and makes up rules all the time.
18:24I was with him until that last part.
18:26He needs to pay more attention to the precedent of the NFL where they don't really care what the precedent
18:33is.
18:34I mean, so, yeah, there's that.
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