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House hunting?? Rumors swirling that Christian Gonzalez may have just bought a home in the Greater Foxborough area- What does that mean? Indication that Gonzo/Patriots could be close to deal? Can Pats pay Gonzalez/Maye/Brown?
Could Drake Maye be the next contract discussion? How much could Maye get? Mahomes money? Allen money?
Could Drake Maye be the next contract discussion? How much could Maye get? Mahomes money? Allen money?
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00:00I was a bit taken aback yesterday when Mike Giardi reported that or suggested that he was dubious about the
00:11New England Patriots paying Christian Gonzalez what the man deserves.
00:17Because the guy has got some some pretty good sourcing there.
00:21And however, on this show, from time to time, we read very deeply into the real estate transactions.
00:31And so I know Jalen Brown doesn't like when people do that.
00:35But so I was somewhat comforted by the news later on in the afternoon yesterday that apparently Gonzo has purchased
00:45a home.
00:46There's no house in Connecticut.
00:47In the greater Foxborough area.
00:50Okay.
00:50So I wanted to ask what those two statements say to you.
00:56I understand the argument that the Patriots have never really paid three high value players at the same time.
01:09And that is what the future holds when it comes to A.J. Brown and Drake May and Christian Gonzalez.
01:15However, just because, you know, and Curtis brings this up all the time, the organization could afford not to pay
01:23people because they had Tom Brady.
01:25Just because they haven't done something doesn't mean that they aren't going to do it and they don't understand how
01:31business is done in the NFL.
01:33Now, I do think that if he were not confident about getting some kind of a deal done, if he
01:40hadn't been getting some sort of indication that they're close or something, he wouldn't buy a home here.
01:46I would agree with that.
01:47You would agree with that, right?
01:48I would agree that he probably, you know, has a spot wherever his offseason where he's going to spend the
01:55majority of his time in some warm climate place.
01:58And he's probably looking at it like, OK, I got this new deal done.
02:02I know I'm going to be here for the next, you know, four years, five years, whatever, you know, whatever
02:07that is.
02:08And he's probably like, I might as well buy a home out here where if I'm going to be here,
02:13you know, 40 percent of the time, at least I know I got a home out here.
02:17So I would feel pretty confident about that, especially with one year left on his contract.
02:23Like if I'm his agent, I would be like I wouldn't tell him to buy nothing.
02:26And how much can we look at the past of how the Patriots have dealt with this stuff based on
02:32where ownership is?
02:34Like, what do you mean?
02:36How? OK, I'll put it plainly.
02:38How much do you think Jonathan has say in things right now?
02:40I think he has a lot of say in it.
02:42Do you think he's increasingly having say?
02:44Yeah. Yes.
02:45OK.
02:45But I also think depending on what you had to tell him to get him here, that Mike Rabel may
02:52have a lot of say in the matter.
02:53Also, I think that's very true point.
02:55Right. Even though he acts like he's totally hands off in the press conferences.
02:59Right. He's like, I'm just basically coaching the football team.
03:02Does anyone believe that he doesn't have a say in that?
03:05No, we believe that he has.
03:06He's like, that's Elliott's thing.
03:08He has. I believe he has the loudest voice in the room that is not named, has the last name
03:13Kraft.
03:14But I'm very curious about, is Jonathan Kraft, if he's starting to really take more and more of the reins?
03:20And I don't know that, but I would assume that it's moving in that direction.
03:24OK.
03:25Is he going to operate a little differently than Robert did?
03:27Maybe he is a little looser with the purse strings.
03:30Maybe he does look at it and say, you know, it was horrible for business that stretch we had when
03:35we couldn't draft players.
03:36And then we had nobody to pay and we had to bring in a bunch of free agents in twenty
03:40twenty one.
03:41And that only worked for a season.
03:43Or it might be like, well, this is the price of doing business when you have a good football team.
03:47You want this. You have to pay your guys like, all right, we know.
03:50And I think it's pretty simple.
03:52So it's just dependent on where the numbers are, like they know where the number is.
03:57Right. We talked to Tyler about this and we all know from the Trent McDuffie deal because it was done,
04:01you know, several months ago.
04:03So he kind of laid the foundation.
04:04So both camps know the Patriots and Christian Gonzalez, where kind of the money is.
04:10You now I think the harder part is going to be next year for Drake May.
04:16Right. Where that money might be and what he could potentially be looking at.
04:21But you want to look and go, OK, we are willing and we are a team that wants to keep
04:28our guys.
04:28I will say I hear this argument from time to time.
04:31This is on the Subaru of New England text line.
04:34Six one seven text.
04:36Christian Gonzalez has missed 16 football games in three seasons and you want to write him a blank check.
04:42Yeah. Yes, I do.
04:43You're an idiot.
04:44How many of those games happened a couple of years ago when he got injured against the Cowboys?
04:48Yeah. When he missed the shoulder, I believe it was a shoulder, right?
04:50Wasn't that week four?
04:52Yes.
04:53I do think it's good.
04:55It would be good business to just write the check and get it done so he can be there for
05:00training camp.
05:00Right.
05:01Because otherwise you do have the issue that he's had where he holds, you know, quietly holds in or whatever
05:07it is.
05:08Really impacted their performance.
05:10Well, but he missed a bunch of games last year, Curtis.
05:14And he was.
05:14He was the only player that actually played to their ability in the Super Bowl.
05:17True.
05:18He is a guy that played through stuff throughout the playoffs.
05:21Unlike your quarterback who was dinged, your cornerback who was dinged played better than anybody on the field.
05:26And so for me, if you believe in the cap and if you do, I'm sorry.
05:31But if you do, every year it's 20% less.
05:35So if you spend $100 million this year and revenue goes up 20%, it's 80%, 80 cents on the dollar
05:42next year.
05:43So the sooner you do it, Greg, the more beneficial it is to the organization and to the way in
05:49which you can spend money.
05:50And your players on that team, right?
05:52So if you get it done quickly, don't you think Drake May and his agent look at it and go,
05:57okay, we're not going to have to deal with these, you know, massive uphill battle to get you a deal?
06:02So it's a good look for your team.
06:04It's a good look for players in that locker room, especially guys that you drafted.
06:09And I know, Meg, you brought this point up.
06:11Guys that you kind of drafted and came up and developed.
06:14It's just a great way to get things done.
06:16Wiggy, I thought your conversation with Ty last Friday was so interesting.
06:20Because Brady is such a hero around here about how he always took less.
06:24Right.
06:25So they could spend more on the rest of the team and bring in the best talent.
06:28And it was fascinating to me that from your guys' perspective, it was like, bro, like now how are we
06:34going to go in and negotiate?
06:36Right.
06:36Well, it'd be like living in a neighborhood and somebody selling their house for way less than what everybody else
06:42is.
06:43And you just go, what the hell are you doing?
06:45I just think a lot of people don't think about it from that perspective.
06:48Yeah.
06:48And it makes sense.
06:49Well, because a lot of people go, you know, you're making so much money.
06:55And why wouldn't you give the team, you love it here, where it's like you're trying to, what you're always
07:01trying to do is set the market for the next guy at your position.
07:05But also drive the money up, you know, everywhere else.
07:08And so guys did not like that.
07:10I mean, you brought up Drake May.
07:13Isn't he going to, he's going to want $70 million a year.
07:16But remember, it's not so much the...
07:19I know, it's the guaranteed money, but he's going to want a lot of that to be guaranteed.
07:22No, but that's what he's earned.
07:24Yes, he has.
07:25And he does, I can't, Wiggy said, well, they're going to, you know, they're more likely going to think about
07:29it with Drake May.
07:30How can you, you know, as long as things go as I would expect them to go this season for
07:36Drake May, how can you blink an eye at $70 million?
07:40Like, write the check.
07:41Can I ask you a question?
07:42When has a member of the Kraft family taken less?
07:46Never.
07:47So why should the player?
07:49No, the player should never.
07:50I guess the question becomes, when you start to look and you start to figure it out, would, because here's
07:59going to be the thing.
08:00Does he want more than Josh Allen got total guarantee?
08:05Josh Allen got $250 million.
08:08Absolutely.
08:09Yeah.
08:09Okay.
08:10Would you, and I'm just...
08:11Did Sean Watson get over $250 million?
08:13No, no.
08:14Hey, he's in a battle with Shador Sanders right now.
08:17Take that.
08:17Both guys look great.
08:18Sean Watson got $230 million.
08:20Yeah.
08:20Oh, okay.
08:21Sorry.
08:22No.
08:23Right.
08:23But I guess the organization is going to look at it, and like they always do, they're going to go,
08:28all right, are you worth more than Josh Allen?
08:34He's younger.
08:35I agree with that.
08:36He got to MVP candidacy way faster than Josh Allen did.
08:40The contract conversation is very simple if I'm Drake May.
08:43I look at it and go, I'm worth more than Dak Prescott.
08:46Dak Prescott's getting $60 million a year.
08:48Right.
08:48I've already been to a Super Bowl.
08:49I was second in the MVP voting.
08:52Probably should have been the MVP.
08:53And then the team will come back, well, you're not worth more than Patrick Mahomes, who's getting $64 million a
08:58year.
08:59So you put him squarely in the middle.
09:00It's $62 million a year.
09:01Boom.
09:02Done.
09:02But it's not about the – it's about – so how much of that guarantee are you giving them?
09:07That's the money that matters.
09:09It depends how many years they want to put on the contract.
09:11Regardless, it's going to be –
09:12Josh Allen got six years.
09:13He got six years, $330 million.
09:16Right?
09:16That's what you have to look at.
09:17That's what Robert Kraft needs to look at.
09:19Robert Kraft needs to look at, all right, we're going to have to give this kid six years, call it
09:24$400 million.
09:26So he's going to get, yeah, like six years, $400 million.
09:30$270 million guaranteed.
09:33That's wild.
09:34Yep.
09:35That's where – I mean, if I'm Drake May's agent and he has another really good year, that's kind of
09:43where I'm starting.
09:45I'm looking at Josh Allen and he's – because he's kind of – and to me, it's all about the
09:50total guaranteed money.
09:52Josh Allen got $250 million, so we're going, all right, we want more than that.
09:55But do you think organizationally they're unable to grasp that they're going to have three high-paid guys on the
10:00football team?
10:01But A.J. Brown's not that high-paid, though, Grant.
10:04A.J. Brown's not that high-paid.
10:06Right.
10:06Like, this year he's $7 million.
10:08Next year it's $10 million.
10:09The year after, $17 million.
10:10And then he maxes out at $23 million.
10:12It's not even like you're paying $30 million a year for a receiver like a guy like Jamar Chase is
10:16getting or Jackson Smith and Jigba or Puka Nakula will get.
10:19But I also do say, to your point, Greg, is you would think, but look what they're doing with Gonzalez,
10:26right?
10:27When you start to factor that in, it's like, you should know if you believe this guy's one of the
10:33best corners in the league.
10:34He is.
10:36Why haven't you done this deal?
10:38Right.
10:38And that's why I'm asking the Patriots that, like, Elliott Wolfe said it.
10:42He's probably the best corner in the league.
10:44So why isn't the deal done?
10:46Maybe they feel like to get it done right now, they would have to really overextend themselves to make sure
10:51that he's the highest paid even above Witherspoon.
10:55You know, like, be proactive the way they were with the A.J. Brown capital offer.
10:59But why are they-
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