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Love Your Weekend with Alan Titchmarsh - Season 8 - Episode 11
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00:00:00In the natural world, as so often in our own, the maternal bond is a keystone to surviving and thriving.
00:00:08See here Maggie and Jessie and their beautiful three-week-old lambs.
00:00:13From the first nozzle, the ewe imprints a scent and sound on her newborn.
00:00:18Thus, the stage is set in securing the next generation of the flock.
00:00:24Happy Mothering Sunday. It's time for Love Your Weekend.
00:00:56Love Your Weekend.
00:01:02Nature. The gentlest mother, impatient of no child, the feeblest or the waywardest.
00:01:10Her admonition mild. In forest and the hill, by traveller it's heard, restraining rampant squirrel or too impetuous bird.
00:01:19Mother Nature there, by Emily Dickinson. The perfect poem for this Mothering Sunday.
00:01:26And we've a perfect show for you today.
00:01:28Coming up, she's the legend from Liverpool and everyone's favourite prime suspect.
00:01:34Linda LaPlante on her latest killer thriller, as we prepare to say farewell to anti-hero Jacques Wall.
00:01:41And he's thrilled us all in classic shows like Cutting It, McDonald and Dodds and Prime Evil.
00:01:47James Murray talks friendships, fishing and family life right here in Hampshire.
00:01:53Forrest Jonathan Moses here, with some innovative Mothering Sunday floral masterpieces, guaranteed to impress, as they always do.
00:02:02And mum's the word in today's Best of British.
00:02:04Drinks expert Andy Clark has the perfect alternative as he serves up the Mother's Day martinis, fit for this special
00:02:13day, including mum's the slurred and mother knows zest.
00:02:19Where does he get them from?
00:02:20Sure to be a memorable Mothering Sunday after a couple of those.
00:02:29The crime scene is set for today's guests.
00:02:32And when it comes to crimes, these two know a few things.
00:02:35From prime suspect, trial and retribution and the governor.
00:02:39Welcome Linda LaPlante with the spotty mug.
00:02:42And keeping the long arm of the law theme going, described as a pompous idiot, ruthless and slippery.
00:02:49His words, not mine, McDonald and Dodds, chief superintendent, John Houseman, James Murray.
00:02:55Welcome to you both.
00:02:56And because it's crime, I felt I had to read the most astonishing blurb come miniature little pracy of the
00:03:06plot of Linda's latest novel, Sacrifice.
00:03:08Now, listen to this.
00:03:09If this doesn't encourage you to read this.
00:03:11Detective Jack Wall leads Scotland Yard's fledgling art fraud unit.
00:03:16Its survival hinging on exposing a suspected forgery, a multi-million dollar masterpiece.
00:03:22When his informant, gallerist Esther Langton, is brutally murdered, Jack's hunt spirals into obsession.
00:03:28Clues point to Adam Borda, a reclusive genius, hiding in a decayed Sicilian villa, haunted by mafia ties and violent
00:03:36secrets.
00:03:37You've been watching Listen With Mother.
00:03:39Who writes that?
00:03:40Who writes that?
00:03:41Somebody at the publisher.
00:03:43It's unputdownable.
00:03:46Unputdownable.
00:03:46It's stuffed with drama and character and colour, darling.
00:03:49Oh, dear, dear, dear.
00:03:50Hasn't been commissioned for television yet?
00:03:51Oh, clobber them.
00:03:54Now then, Mothering Sunday.
00:03:57Yes.
00:03:58What were your traditions, Jim?
00:04:00I mean, you and I, well, all three of us, our mums are no longer with us, but so many
00:04:04happy memories.
00:04:05One of my earliest memories about Mothering Sunday, I said to my mother, what do you want for Mothering Sunday?
00:04:10Because no child, you know, it's much easier to be told what gift to give.
00:04:14And all my mother used to say, she was very stoic and very northern, she used to just say, I
00:04:19just want to visit Peace and Quiet.
00:04:21That's all she said.
00:04:22And, of course, I couldn't give her that.
00:04:24So it was an unruly quiet gift.
00:04:27The one failure, I have no Peace and Quiet to give.
00:04:28Peace and Quiet, that was it.
00:04:30What about you?
00:04:31Memories of your mum, Linda.
00:04:32Well, I've got this because it reminds me of my mother, and I saw it in a catalogue, and my
00:04:40son bought this for my Christmas present.
00:04:43And the reason is, my mother had this fur stole that she was so proud.
00:04:51She was a little bit, you know, oh, I'm just going to the golf club, but I'm wearing my mink
00:04:58stole, and she'd come down in this.
00:05:01It looked like this.
00:05:02It might have been squirrel, I don't know.
00:05:04But this wrap, and when I saw this, I thought, oh, that's my mother.
00:05:10She was so adorable.
00:05:12She just, I mean, she actually was sitting, watching TV, and she said, did you write Prime Suspect?
00:05:21So I said, yes, mother.
00:05:23All of it?
00:05:25I said, yes.
00:05:26She said, well, I don't know where you get it from.
00:05:28Oh, bless her.
00:05:29Yeah, that's presumably not mink.
00:05:32Yeah, what is this?
00:05:33No, it's fake.
00:05:33Fake fur.
00:05:34But it was in a catalogue, in the Daily Mail.
00:05:38And I said, I want that.
00:05:40But it's my, I feel like my mother.
00:05:44I look like her in this.
00:05:46But it's, you know, probably incredibly old-fashioned.
00:05:49No, it's lovely.
00:05:50It's very glamorous.
00:05:51I used to love, I remember years ago, which actually rather neatly leads me on to my next
00:05:56question.
00:05:57I remember seeing, when I was very young, the Martha Longhurst, Mindy Caldwell, and Eileen
00:06:02Sharples in Coronation Street.
00:06:04And they went out to an evening do, and they all had mink stoves on.
00:06:07And there they were wearing a berry and a little tweedy coat, you know.
00:06:12Now then, you were both in Corrie at some point.
00:06:14Yeah.
00:06:15Were you in Corrie?
00:06:16Yeah.
00:06:16I was in Corrie.
00:06:17But I don't remember.
00:06:18I don't know why I say that like that.
00:06:19I was very proud.
00:06:20What were you?
00:06:21Who were you?
00:06:23It was my first ever acting job.
00:06:25I was Sandy the barman in 19, way back, many, many years ago.
00:06:31And yes, I was Jack and Vera's barman for about three episodes.
00:06:35And it was a frightening experience.
00:06:37Were you no good at the job then?
00:06:38No good at the job.
00:06:40Literally.
00:06:41I mean, thankfully, I think I was contracted for three episodes.
00:06:44So I was done.
00:06:45I was in and out.
00:06:46But it was so frightening because Bill Tarmy, I think he played Jack.
00:06:51He was a wonderful man.
00:06:54You know how those shows are filmed.
00:06:56It's very quick.
00:06:57It's like a sausage factory.
00:06:58There's not much time for creative input from the actors, shall we say.
00:07:03You just stand on your mark and you say your line and we move on.
00:07:06And that was my first introduction into the world of acting, screen acting.
00:07:10And I walked into the Rovers and I was absolutely petrified.
00:07:14And the bright lights and I'd overlearned my lines.
00:07:17And, you know, I was just a mess.
00:07:19I was shaking and sweating.
00:07:21And I walked in and I said my line to Jack.
00:07:24Cut.
00:07:25And Jack just looked at me and he was polishing, or Bill looked at me and he was polishing the
00:07:29glass.
00:07:29And he went, you're shaking like a leaf, son.
00:07:31And I said, you know, and he said, either stop shaking or think of doing something else.
00:07:41And after that stint on Corrie, I said, no, I can't, you know, I don't want to be an actor.
00:07:46Or I don't want to be an actor like this because it was so frightening to me.
00:07:50It was being thrown into the lion's den, you know, first off.
00:07:54So I then went and did theatre and other things.
00:07:57But it was, you're never again.
00:07:59It was really fun.
00:08:00My hat goes off to the way they act in those shows because it's so quick.
00:08:04Linda, who were you?
00:08:06Who were you in Corrie?
00:08:07I can't really recall what I was doing in and out of Corrie very much at all.
00:08:13But I have no memory.
00:08:14And sometimes you've shown me some filmage and I have no idea what it was.
00:08:18But I'll tell you who I adored, and that was Pat Phoenix.
00:08:22I loved her so much.
00:08:25And even after she'd come out of Coronation Street, she played a character in a stage play I wrote.
00:08:35Oh, God, I love this woman.
00:08:37You'd be out with her and, you know, Joe Puppet would come up, I know who you are.
00:08:42You're Pat Phoenix, Coronation Street.
00:08:45You look a lot better on the screen than off, love.
00:08:48Oh.
00:08:49And Pat would just say, thank you, love.
00:08:52I remember seeing her in The Miracle Worker.
00:08:55Oh, yeah.
00:08:55Helen Keller, blind, deaf, dumb.
00:08:59Yeah.
00:08:59And she was playing, I've forgotten the name of the character, who taught her, sorry, I remember it vividly, Richmond
00:09:04Theatre, talk about holding a stage.
00:09:06She was the most brilliant, dramatic actress off screen.
00:09:09Did you work with her then on Corrie?
00:09:12No, I didn't.
00:09:13I think I drifted in and out.
00:09:14What did you do on Corrie?
00:09:16I think I had a dance with Cliff Richard, but I can't actually remember.
00:09:19In Coronation Street?
00:09:20Yeah.
00:09:21But I can't really remember.
00:09:22I don't remember Cliff having a part in Corrie.
00:09:24So you and Cliff had a part in Corrie?
00:09:26Yeah, but I can't remember.
00:09:27I need to dig this episode out.
00:09:29Who were the inspirations in your life, Jim?
00:09:31I'm looking, you know, because this is a time where you think of mums and people who've been important in
00:09:35your life.
00:09:36Inspiration to you?
00:09:37There is a man, sadly not with us anymore.
00:09:41He's an Icelandic gentleman called Ori Vigvarsson.
00:09:47And Ori Vigvarsson was a salmon conservationist.
00:09:51He understood that the reason why this species was falling off the edge of a cliff, numbers-wise, is because
00:09:58of netsmen.
00:10:00And it's very difficult to deregulate a commercial industry that jobs and people's livelihoods survive off.
00:10:09So he managed to persuade very wealthy individuals to club together, form a fund called the North Atlantic Salmon Fund,
00:10:18which still thrives today.
00:10:20And he incentivised commercial fisheries by giving them the money or the equivalent of what they were going to lose
00:10:26if they were going to stop.
00:10:27And in doing so, saved entire generations of salmon throughout the whole of Scandinavia.
00:10:33I see why he'd be an inspiration.
00:10:34Linda, what about you? Inspirations?
00:10:36Right now, my admiration for the forensic scientists just keeps on widening.
00:10:44There's a wonderful lady called Patricia Wiltshire.
00:10:49Unassuming.
00:10:51Very pretty woman.
00:10:53Very, very pretty woman.
00:10:54Who is a genius.
00:10:57Over and over again, this woman has investigated the most brutal, horrific murders and said, this is what you need.
00:11:07You are looking for a garden with two fires, one coal, one wood.
00:11:12You're looking for a garden that has an orchard.
00:11:15There's an apple tree.
00:11:16And she's got it.
00:11:19And she's a botanist.
00:11:21But her knowledge of the earth, to be able to get from a mark on her jeans worn by a
00:11:30killer to say, he knelt in this ground, this, and identifies the ground.
00:11:37She is remarkable.
00:11:39You know, I'm just in awe.
00:11:41You're a bit of an inspiration to him.
00:11:43Yes.
00:11:44Yes.
00:11:45He wouldn't say it.
00:11:45Go on, Jim.
00:11:45So, comics.
00:11:50You're, do you, of course, you know, remember comics.
00:11:52I know you've written so much.
00:11:53But comics, for me, I think it was early 90s, or at least when it made it to the screen.
00:11:58Did you write it as a novel as well, or was it a screenplay only?
00:12:02Screenplay first, then novel.
00:12:03And then a novel.
00:12:04That TV show was, when I watched that, Channel 4, I think, which at the time was very avant-garde
00:12:10drama,
00:12:11and it didn't bow to the usual regulations of what we were seeing on the other three channels that we
00:12:17had at the time.
00:12:18And that was a huge inspiration for me, to be an actor.
00:12:21When I watched that, I went, I believe every single character, the story is fascinating.
00:12:27How can I be involved in this world of storytelling?
00:12:30Oh, wow.
00:12:31So, thank you.
00:12:32Much more from Linda and James coming up.
00:12:34And as it's Mothering Sunday, and as it's a very special day today, because it's Linda LaPlante's birthday,
00:12:42we have a birthday cake and three plates.
00:12:46And I'd say, well, you're too polite, really.
00:12:49Oh, wow.
00:12:50Linda LaPlante, here you are.
00:12:53Happy 83rd birthday today.
00:12:55Thank you very much.
00:12:57I'll cut Jim and I a piece in a minute.
00:12:59Coming up, some small fluffy clouds appears to be gathering here at the farm.
00:13:02And, oh, sorry, no, it's just these fleecy little fellows.
00:13:06Farmer Charlie Dodd introduces us to some three-week-old rare-breed lambs.
00:13:10Plus, are you ready for some unbelievably good tipples?
00:13:15Drinks expert Andy Clark sews up Mother's Day martinis in today's Best of British.
00:13:20And some things just go together.
00:13:23Tea and cake, James Murray and Atlantic salmon,
00:13:26me in a nice tweed jacket or gilet,
00:13:29and, of course, flowers and mothering Sunday.
00:13:31The florist Jonathan Mosley delves into the best blooms
00:13:34to celebrate the mums in your life.
00:13:37I'll see you with Jonathan and his magnificent blooms right after this.
00:13:42Here you are.
00:13:42Happy birthday, Linda.
00:13:43Thank you very much.
00:13:44There you are, Jim.
00:13:46Fresh baked.
00:13:47We don't know who by, but it's fresh baked.
00:13:49It's good.
00:13:51Oh, so good.
00:13:52Happy birthday.
00:13:53Happy birthday.
00:14:10By viewing nature, nature's handmade art
00:14:14makes mighty things from small beginnings grow.
00:14:19A quote from John Dryden,
00:14:20appointed the first ever poet laureate of England in 1667.
00:14:25And, of course, the beauty of our surroundings continues to exhilarate.
00:14:29Coming up, he's usually found sporting a pair of obligatory waders.
00:14:33Not today.
00:14:34Jim Murray on his continuing passion for fishing.
00:14:37And showcasing the many herbs favoured by the Elizabethans.
00:14:42And considering she was a consultant on tonight's Oscar favourite, Hamlet,
00:14:47we know we're in good hands.
00:14:49Herb specialist, Jekyll McVicker, serves up her herbal spring pick-me-ups.
00:14:53But first, Mothering Sunday's been celebrated in the UK since the 16th century,
00:14:59when people had journeyed to their mother church,
00:15:02the main church or cathedral of their area,
00:15:04for a special service,
00:15:06often demonstrating their devotion by taking flowers and offerings.
00:15:10Over the centuries,
00:15:11it's blossomed into a celebration of all mothers and mother figures.
00:15:15So if you're looking for a bouquet or a bunch,
00:15:18for a mother figure in your life,
00:15:21Jonathan Mosley has the arrangements that could tick the box.
00:15:24They're ticking just about everything.
00:15:26What a glorious rush of spring.
00:15:29Isn't spring wonderful, Alan?
00:15:30Isn't it?
00:15:31The colours, the fragrance, the energy, the vibrancy that it gives us.
00:15:35I love this time of year.
00:15:36Yeah.
00:15:37Absolutely wonderful.
00:15:38And giving flowers,
00:15:39it's just one of the nice things in life to do, isn't it?
00:15:42You know, years and years ago, working on Pebble Millet,
00:15:45the end of a run, I'd give little bunches out,
00:15:47and to the men as well, camera men and things.
00:15:51And the first time I did it, it was a bit hostile.
00:15:53I'm not sure about this.
00:15:54And then it was a few years ago,
00:15:56are we getting flowers again?
00:15:58I think flowers become addicted.
00:16:00Men like flowers.
00:16:00They do.
00:16:00We all like flowers.
00:16:01And it's good for us, Alan.
00:16:03And actually, it's good to give, isn't it?
00:16:05Yeah.
00:16:05I think the gesture of giving is one of the nicest things,
00:16:07and I think everybody can remember giving Mother's Day flowers.
00:16:11It's one of those things that's very British, isn't it?
00:16:14It is, and they don't have to be elaborate.
00:16:16Little posy.
00:16:17Simple posies, and just something like, you know,
00:16:19simple daffodils, Alan.
00:16:21They are such a wonderful thing.
00:16:23And just coming out in the gardens,
00:16:25aren't we getting lots of different varieties of daffodils now pushing through?
00:16:28They'll go right until May with those late ones.
00:16:30Really, you can stagger that series of blooms, can't you?
00:16:33So it's successional.
00:16:34But a flower that is really personal for me for Mother's Day, Alan,
00:16:38is freesia.
00:16:38Freesia.
00:16:39These were my mother's favourites.
00:16:41And back in my day, yeah,
00:16:43I can remember where freesia was one of those sort of on-trend flowers,
00:16:47and you could get wonderful bunches of freesia
00:16:50that were so succulently-centred.
00:16:52It's interesting, because apparently some people can't smell them.
00:16:55No, it's a bit like the asparagus thing, isn't it?
00:16:57Oh, yes.
00:16:58Well, we won't go there.
00:16:59We won't go there.
00:16:59Not until April.
00:17:02But, yeah, I can smell them.
00:17:03I can smell them, can't you?
00:17:03Don't get the cold, I can smell it.
00:17:05So, yeah, freesia's certainly one of my own mother's favourites.
00:17:08You see, if you're a florist on television, you've got to be able to do the bunch,
00:17:12put it together and talk at the same time.
00:17:15And Jonathan and Simon, they're past masters of this.
00:17:19Now, this is interesting, seeing how you make a bunch, actually.
00:17:22Yes, the construction of it.
00:17:23We'll go out to the garden, we'll get them, we'll stuff them in.
00:17:26And you make it in your hand.
00:17:28Yeah, we're tying it together in the hand.
00:17:29Your hand almost becomes like a pop-up vase, really.
00:17:32And it's holding your hand at that sort of aperture there,
00:17:35so you can feed the stems into it.
00:17:37Oh, you've got lovely paper wipes there as well.
00:17:39Yeah, they smell amazing, Alan.
00:17:41Just dive in, indulge in that sensational fragrance.
00:17:44I'm doing this on your behalf, OK?
00:17:46We need smelly vision.
00:17:48We do.
00:17:49There's a delicacy of spring flowers in their fragrance.
00:17:52There is, absolutely.
00:17:52And I think that's the nice thing about giving flowers for Mother's Day, Alan.
00:17:55If you can give something that's scented like paper wipes or cheerfulness or freesia,
00:18:01it's an added extra, isn't it?
00:18:03Because you're getting that buoyant fragrance, which fills a room as well.
00:18:06Well, it does.
00:18:07And when you come down in the morning and you open the door to the room,
00:18:10you go, oh, gosh, and they've been in there overnight.
00:18:12It just holds the scent, doesn't it?
00:18:14Something I always used to do as well at Mother's Day, Alan,
00:18:17because I've always enjoyed picking flowers and being creative.
00:18:20We used to always have a miscellany of old baskets at home in a shed.
00:18:25And I think they're still there at my father's, perhaps half of them.
00:18:27And I would take a basket and I would always get some ivy, some ivy trails.
00:18:32Oh, round it.
00:18:32And just wrap it around the basket.
00:18:34And I've done that one with flowers in there
00:18:36and arranged those just into chicken wire inside the basket.
00:18:39So what have you got holding the water?
00:18:41I've got a plastic tray in there inside the basket,
00:18:44which is just recycled from the kitchen.
00:18:46And I've got chicken wire in there.
00:18:48And I started off by popping some tree ivy in as the base foliage,
00:18:51but you could use any type of greenery you can get your hands on,
00:18:54and then arrange the flowers into there.
00:18:56Yeah. And do you, you know, as soon as one goes over,
00:18:58you'll replace it with another?
00:18:59You can pull them out, since that's the good thing about chicken wire, Alan.
00:19:02It's so easy to take one out, pop it back in, add a different one in.
00:19:06And once you've done that basket, you could change that
00:19:08and keep it going for a good couple of months.
00:19:10Yeah, yeah. Pussy willow.
00:19:12Pussy willow, yeah.
00:19:13Buying flowers, Alan.
00:19:14I think that's changed a lot, hasn't it?
00:19:16Because I can remember buying my Mother's Day flowers.
00:19:19It was from the greengrocers.
00:19:20Yes.
00:19:20And the village greengrocers, they would always put a good show on at Mother's Day,
00:19:24have a selection of flowers outside in buckets,
00:19:27and it was things like anemones.
00:19:29Yeah.
00:19:29Daffodils, certainly.
00:19:31Tulips in there, and freesia, as I mentioned.
00:19:34But we couldn't buy things like foliage, for example.
00:19:37You have to gather this yourself.
00:19:39There's eucalyptus.
00:19:40That's from the gardens.
00:19:41And if you're growing it in your garden, chop it right back down to the ground
00:19:43and you'll get fresh growth.
00:19:44Oh, it needs chopping back.
00:19:46It doesn't need chopping back.
00:19:47It can be a thug, can't it?
00:19:48But you've got this lovely broom here as well.
00:19:50Yes, some of this wonderfully scented broom.
00:19:53And just have a little smell of that, Alan.
00:19:55I love broom because it's got that sort of traily, open nature,
00:19:59and it gives lovely movement to a bouquet always.
00:20:02If you're doing that in a wedding, for example,
00:20:05you can get that gorgeous trail there.
00:20:06And of course, they used to use it as a broom for sweeping.
00:20:08A broom for sweeping brush, yeah.
00:20:10And it's a bit like gorse broom, isn't it?
00:20:12It flowers at different times as well.
00:20:14Oh, Percy Thoreau, that great gardener, always used to say to me,
00:20:17he said,
00:20:18Ah, when gorse is in bloom, kissing's in season.
00:20:22Gorse is never out of bloom, is it?
00:20:24It's never out of bloom, no.
00:20:25It's a prickly old beast, though, isn't it?
00:20:26Oh, it is.
00:20:27You wouldn't want to put it in that in your garden.
00:20:27We wouldn't want to gather that for an arrangement.
00:20:29Look, you see, you just made this enormous great bouquet
00:20:31while we've been witchering on.
00:20:33But this is obviously a larger bouquet, Alan,
00:20:35but you can do any bouquet.
00:20:36Sometimes I've got some small ones there with the hyacinths.
00:20:39Lovely old joy.
00:20:40I love the fact you keep all your containers.
00:20:42Oh, I'm terrible.
00:20:43No, you telling me, which I hadn't noticed,
00:20:46that different coloured hyacinths smell different to one another.
00:20:50Absolutely.
00:20:51These white ones, glorious.
00:20:52The white one is so sweetly scented,
00:20:54but sometimes, you know,
00:20:55I notice the blue ones,
00:20:57a little bit chemical, really, in the smell.
00:21:00And if you've got quite a lot together,
00:21:02a bit like lilies, really,
00:21:04they can become a bit too heady.
00:21:05Oppressive.
00:21:06And a bit oppressive.
00:21:06Yeah.
00:21:07But I love the white ones.
00:21:09I think they're absolutely gorgeous.
00:21:10I'm just going to take a little bit of this twine around here.
00:21:15Now, do you ever put this in the water?
00:21:16Yes, I do.
00:21:18Now, there's different veins of thought
00:21:20about whether you should or shouldn't put flower food in the water.
00:21:23I'm a flower food in person.
00:21:25Yeah.
00:21:25Because it does make so much difference to the longevity.
00:21:29And it stops the water from getting impurities forming in there
00:21:32that travel up the stem.
00:21:34Yeah.
00:21:34And then you'll get the disease, which shortens the life cycle.
00:21:37So, I always put flower food in the water.
00:21:40If you've not got flower food yourself,
00:21:42then pop a little bit of lemonade in,
00:21:45a little spoonful of sugar,
00:21:46a tiny dash of bleach.
00:21:47That all helps as well.
00:21:49Right.
00:21:49Did you get that recipe?
00:21:51And put it on the boil for half an hour.
00:21:53That's astonishing.
00:21:54And it over it.
00:21:55I will give it back.
00:21:55Have a little look, Alan.
00:21:56Yeah, I'm eating the stems.
00:21:58That's just...
00:21:58Can you imagine,
00:21:59instead of something from the filling station,
00:22:02taking a bit longer
00:22:03and trying to get some out of your garden,
00:22:04if you look at the garden desk.
00:22:05Yes, and the foliage is from the garden, Alan.
00:22:07Isn't that beautiful?
00:22:08So, you could easily pump up some flowers
00:22:09by just gathering a little bit of greenery.
00:22:11Yeah.
00:22:12Adding to that.
00:22:12I'll give it back to you.
00:22:13Thank you, Alan, very, very much.
00:22:15Thank you, Jonathan.
00:22:16Always a pleasure.
00:22:17Still ahead.
00:22:18We shine a spotlight on the British winemakers,
00:22:21causing quite a stir
00:22:22and giving our French cousins a run for their money.
00:22:25Tony Asoba visits one urban winery,
00:22:28making award-winning wines in a 19th-century windmill.
00:22:32And from Colonel Neil Chick Harding in Masters of the Air
00:22:36to C.S. Houseman in MacDonald and Dodds
00:22:39to former boy band member Liam in Cutting It.
00:22:42He's had some rolls.
00:22:44And when he's not doing all that,
00:22:45he can often be found sitting on a riverbank.
00:22:48Jim Murray on the therapeutic value of fly fishing.
00:22:51I'll see you with Jim and more right after this.
00:23:07Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.
00:23:09Coming up, she's mingled with the mafia in Sicily,
00:23:13shadowed private detectives in the mean streets of Los Angeles,
00:23:16and come face to face with not one but two serial killers.
00:23:19And always maintaining a joie de vie,
00:23:22Linda Laplante on her thrilling new crime novel, Sacrifice.
00:23:27And it would most definitely be a crime
00:23:29if you miss today's Best of British.
00:23:31Drinks expert Andy Clark
00:23:33serves up the Mother's Day martinis to lift the spirits,
00:23:36including a Mars cream-tini,
00:23:39did you get that,
00:23:41with Yorkshire whiskey,
00:23:41and a mother-nosed zest with rhubarb gin.
00:23:44But first, an idyllic, elite, private enclave
00:23:49in the heart of Surrey,
00:23:51hiding underlying darkness,
00:23:54toxic secrets, scandals, power struggles.
00:23:58And it also features my next guest
00:24:00as a wealthy, mysterious patriarch,
00:24:03often away on business.
00:24:05Ha! That old chestnut.
00:24:08Utterly compelling, utterly ruthless.
00:24:16Surprised you're up?
00:24:21You know, I was talking about this party on the estate.
00:24:25Turns out the house was gatecrashed by a gang,
00:24:28and they filmed it and put it online.
00:24:31Idiots.
00:24:33Tim sent an email.
00:24:35But if the estate isn't safe,
00:24:36why are we paying all this money on surveillance?
00:24:39Are you coming to my reading?
00:24:41I know you like to think I sit around all day doing nothing.
00:24:44I don't... I never said that.
00:24:54I'm lonely, Rave.
00:24:58You know what?
00:25:02I'm just...
00:25:04I'm not doing this.
00:25:05I'm not doing this.
00:25:09It's a quietly tense scene there.
00:25:11You can see the emotional distance between the characters there.
00:25:17Do you know, it's lovely in modern drama
00:25:19to see a scene
00:25:22that isn't rushed.
00:25:24You know, because it's so bish-posh-posh now.
00:25:27They let the pauses breathe.
00:25:29Yeah.
00:25:29Yeah, because time is money on telly.
00:25:31So the story of Wild Cherry was what?
00:25:33The story of Wild Cherry
00:25:35is about the dark underbelly
00:25:38of very overprivileged,
00:25:40wealthy,
00:25:42narcissistic
00:25:43types,
00:25:43and that when their daughters
00:25:46get into trouble
00:25:47at a very prestigious
00:25:49school, privileged public school,
00:25:51how they all rally together
00:25:53or not
00:25:54to try and save
00:25:55the family unit.
00:25:57So it's a sort of...
00:25:58It's a real prod
00:26:00at those
00:26:01people
00:26:02that we sometimes
00:26:03read about in magazines.
00:26:04But fundamentally speaking,
00:26:06it's just a crazy
00:26:08romp.
00:26:08It's, you know,
00:26:09it's a
00:26:10luscious,
00:26:12almost soap operatic
00:26:13romp
00:26:14about very rich people
00:26:15in Surrey.
00:26:16So it's a left-wing
00:26:17propaganda play.
00:26:18It's a left-wing
00:26:18propaganda piece,
00:26:19absolutely.
00:26:20And I play
00:26:21an ex-England of...
00:26:22Captain of England
00:26:23cricket
00:26:25guy
00:26:26who has spent
00:26:27his whole life
00:26:29being given
00:26:29what he wanted
00:26:30and now he's over the hill
00:26:31and he's a little bit jaded
00:26:32and insecure
00:26:34as men of a certain age
00:26:35can be.
00:26:36Feeling one knows all too well.
00:26:38And he manifests this
00:26:39in very bad ways
00:26:40as men on television
00:26:42often do these days.
00:26:43He's one of those.
00:26:45So, yeah,
00:26:46enjoy well, Cherry.
00:26:47If they offer you
00:26:48too many villains,
00:26:49though,
00:26:49do you begin to worry a bit?
00:26:50Yes.
00:26:51I'm in that worry phase
00:26:53right now.
00:26:54The last time I played
00:26:55someone who wasn't a villain,
00:26:56I can't remember,
00:26:57I don't think.
00:26:59Maybe Masters of the Air.
00:27:00That was a while ago then.
00:27:02A while ago now.
00:27:03Maybe it's because
00:27:04they think
00:27:05because you don't look evil,
00:27:07it's more evil
00:27:08when you play evil.
00:27:10Maybe.
00:27:10I will go with that.
00:27:13I think it's something
00:27:14to do with maybe
00:27:15my eyebrows,
00:27:16someone once told me.
00:27:17They've got quite severe eyebrows.
00:27:19And my sister growing up
00:27:21and still calls me
00:27:22evil as a nickname.
00:27:23So there's obviously
00:27:24something in there.
00:27:25Have you been in therapy
00:27:27for this, Jim?
00:27:27Yes, lots.
00:27:28And I billed her
00:27:29and she's yet to pay.
00:27:32But the bulk, it seems to me,
00:27:35of your life
00:27:36and energies now
00:27:39is spent,
00:27:40you know,
00:27:40you sort of do
00:27:41the acting bits
00:27:42but then you're off
00:27:44on particularly
00:27:46your passion
00:27:47for chalk streams.
00:27:48We're living, you know,
00:27:49near the test
00:27:50and near the itch
00:27:51and the most famous chalk streams
00:27:53in the world,
00:27:54certainly the most famous
00:27:55streams in the UK.
00:27:56And you're a passionate
00:27:57fly fisher.
00:27:58We know that
00:27:59and you've given me
00:28:00some casting lessons here
00:28:01which was great fun.
00:28:02But what, I mean,
00:28:03were you taken out
00:28:04as a boy doing it?
00:28:05But it's always been
00:28:06fly fishing with
00:28:07and not course fishing.
00:28:08Well, my fishing career,
00:28:12if you can call it that,
00:28:13started with
00:28:15mackerel fishing
00:28:16off the back
00:28:17of a horrible
00:28:18diesel-ridden tugboat
00:28:20in North Wales.
00:28:22My father used to insist
00:28:24we went out
00:28:24on lumpy August afternoons
00:28:26with him
00:28:26to catch mackerel
00:28:27for our tea
00:28:28but my grandfather
00:28:30saw that I wasn't
00:28:31enjoying that too much
00:28:33so took me fly fishing
00:28:34in the reservoirs
00:28:35around Macclesfield
00:28:36which is where I learnt
00:28:38where you'd catch
00:28:38stock trout
00:28:39and it went from there really.
00:28:41Now, tell me about
00:28:42your campaign
00:28:43because there's several
00:28:43campaigns you've got going.
00:28:45Yeah.
00:28:45You've got one called
00:28:46Project Whiteheart.
00:28:47Project Whiteheart
00:28:47which is the most important one
00:28:50and perhaps most apt
00:28:52in as much as we are
00:28:53as you said,
00:28:53we are in a chalk stream
00:28:55catchment here.
00:28:56Why is chalk streams
00:28:56important?
00:28:57Chalk streams are important
00:28:58because there are very,
00:28:59well, A, they're very rare.
00:29:00There are very few of them
00:29:01in the world.
00:29:02There are probably 200 or so,
00:29:0385% of those
00:29:04are in this country.
00:29:06The lion's share of them
00:29:07are down here
00:29:08in the south.
00:29:10Living in some of those
00:29:11chalk streams
00:29:12are chalk stream salmon
00:29:13and they are a very,
00:29:14very rare subspecies
00:29:15of Atlantic salmon.
00:29:16They're critically endangered.
00:29:17So what can we all do
00:29:20to do our bit,
00:29:21not just those of us
00:29:22who live around
00:29:22these chalk streams
00:29:23but...
00:29:23I think it's really
00:29:24important to spread the word,
00:29:27to tell the story
00:29:28of the salmon
00:29:28because it's such
00:29:29an interesting story.
00:29:30I liken it to
00:29:31Homer's Odyssey
00:29:32because it's all about
00:29:34this fish
00:29:34that spends half its life
00:29:37trying to get back
00:29:38to where it was born
00:29:39after spending
00:29:40the first half of its life
00:29:41getting out
00:29:42to the feeding grounds
00:29:43and doing battle
00:29:44with all the various
00:29:45predators
00:29:45and what happens
00:29:46out in the ocean.
00:29:46So it's a huge odyssey
00:29:48this story that it goes on
00:29:50and if people understood
00:29:52that they'd hopefully
00:29:53fall in love
00:29:53with the romance of it
00:29:54and if they understood
00:29:55how important it is
00:29:56to the rivers
00:29:57as a keystone species
00:29:58then they might just
00:30:00get the support
00:30:01that it so desperately needs.
00:30:03There would be some
00:30:03who would say
00:30:04you clearly feel passionate
00:30:05about this
00:30:06why then are you
00:30:07a fisherman?
00:30:08That's a good question.
00:30:08Why do you catch them?
00:30:09It's almost paradoxical
00:30:10isn't it?
00:30:11Because, well,
00:30:12A, I will say
00:30:14when I salmon fish
00:30:15and the majority
00:30:16of people who salmon fish
00:30:18now are absolutely
00:30:19practising catch and release
00:30:21so that's about
00:30:23fish handling
00:30:23keeping the fish
00:30:24in the water
00:30:25at all times
00:30:25not stressing it
00:30:27so they all survive
00:30:29I mean there is
00:30:30a small percentage
00:30:31of mortality
00:30:32but predominantly
00:30:33they survive
00:30:34but what anglers do
00:30:36is bring much needed
00:30:38financial resource
00:30:39and awareness
00:30:40to these rivers
00:30:40and riparian management
00:30:42and riparian management
00:30:43all that
00:30:44with very good news
00:30:45for the rivers
00:30:46if there weren't anglers
00:30:47then I would
00:30:49hazard a guess
00:30:50that the rivers
00:30:51would be even
00:30:51in worse condition
00:30:53than they are already
00:30:54and they do
00:30:55give you
00:30:56pleasure
00:30:57when you're working
00:30:58with them
00:30:58and they give us pleasure
00:30:59when we watch
00:30:59the likes of you
00:31:00and Robson Green
00:31:01here in Iceland
00:31:02Jim he's massive
00:31:07he's huge
00:31:13oh he's a beast
00:31:15he's a beast
00:31:19that's a big fish
00:31:21Jesus Christ
00:31:2582
00:31:26yes baby
00:31:30I'm so glad
00:31:31we came back
00:31:31to this beautiful lake
00:31:32this is the stuff
00:31:34fishing memories
00:31:34are made of
00:31:37it's been a once
00:31:38in a lifetime day
00:31:39and being this close
00:31:40to these ancient
00:31:41mythical fish
00:31:42makes me feel
00:31:43truly humbled
00:31:50well done mate
00:31:53we can enjoy
00:31:55ourselves now
00:31:56you see how much
00:31:57it means you
00:31:58and there's something
00:31:58sort of prehistoric
00:32:00isn't there
00:32:00about those
00:32:01I see exactly
00:32:02what you mean about
00:32:04you know
00:32:04and you and Robson
00:32:05share that passion
00:32:06they're wild animals
00:32:08and to connect
00:32:09that was a
00:32:09that was a trout
00:32:10from the Jurassic
00:32:12trout lake
00:32:12in Iceland
00:32:13so you're right
00:32:14that they are
00:32:14kind of prehistoric
00:32:15in as much as
00:32:16they've had
00:32:16millions of years
00:32:17to adapt
00:32:18but salmon
00:32:18exactly the same
00:32:20they're wild animals
00:32:21that have come
00:32:21from the sea
00:32:22and they're back
00:32:23in this freshwater
00:32:24habitat
00:32:24and you get the
00:32:25chance to get up
00:32:27close and personal
00:32:28giving us all
00:32:29a lot of knowledge
00:32:30about this
00:32:31a lot of knowledge
00:32:31in a short period
00:32:32of time
00:32:33not to digest
00:32:33let's take you back
00:32:34to the day job
00:32:37let's have a little
00:32:38clever view
00:32:38under the greenwood tree
00:32:39with the delightful
00:32:41keely hawes
00:32:43it's just too bad
00:32:44of you dick teary
00:32:47miss day
00:32:49my shirt please
00:32:50let me go on
00:32:51thinking it was
00:32:52mr shiner
00:32:52who saved my father
00:32:53when i now know
00:32:54that it was you
00:32:55it's of no importance
00:32:56it's of enormous importance
00:32:57and it could have had
00:32:58enormous repercussions
00:33:01my shirt
00:33:01miss day
00:33:07do you know
00:33:08what i said
00:33:08to mr shiner's
00:33:09offer of marriage
00:33:12i may have heard
00:33:12something
00:33:14what do you think
00:33:14about that
00:33:15mr teary
00:33:16i have no opinion
00:33:17of my betters miss
00:33:19are you going to
00:33:20give me my shirt
00:33:20miss day
00:33:22i haven't decided yet
00:33:27oh we just cut off
00:33:29at the vital moment
00:33:30it is jim murray's
00:33:31mr darcy moment
00:33:33was it as it
00:33:34dealing as peaceful
00:33:35as it looked
00:33:35working with keely
00:33:36there
00:33:36yes it was
00:33:37we shot that
00:33:39on jersey
00:33:41many years ago
00:33:42and you can see
00:33:43i was very red
00:33:44that wasn't makeup
00:33:45i was sunburned
00:33:46but we figured
00:33:47or i figured
00:33:48we'd get away with it
00:33:49because normally
00:33:50when you get sunburned
00:33:51they'll kick you
00:33:52and make up
00:33:52so it doesn't kick off
00:33:53off the lens
00:33:54but we figured
00:33:56that that character
00:33:58back in the day
00:33:59would have got sunburned
00:34:00there's no sunscreen
00:34:01in those days
00:34:02so yeah
00:34:03we went with it
00:34:03now since we last
00:34:05spoke on this program
00:34:07yes
00:34:07you and your wife
00:34:08sarah sarah parish
00:34:09you've both been
00:34:11awarded the mbe
00:34:11for which huge
00:34:12congratulations
00:34:13thank you very much
00:34:14for this astonishing work
00:34:15you do
00:34:16for the murray parish trust
00:34:17you've now raised
00:34:18over five million pounds
00:34:20for paediatric care
00:34:22in this part of the world
00:34:23and equipment
00:34:24i mean
00:34:25well done you
00:34:26it's not raised
00:34:28without a heck of a lot
00:34:29of hard graft
00:34:30is it
00:34:31it's not
00:34:32and since then
00:34:33we actually
00:34:35last summer
00:34:36we rebranded
00:34:37and went national
00:34:38and now we're called
00:34:39imagine this
00:34:40because what we
00:34:41are raising funds for
00:34:43now
00:34:43we realised
00:34:45when we were
00:34:46the murray parish trust
00:34:47that there was a huge need
00:34:48being overlooked
00:34:49for the mental well-being
00:34:50of seriously ill children
00:34:51and their families
00:34:52we were obviously
00:34:53one of those people
00:34:54when Ella Jane
00:34:55our first daughter
00:34:56who passed away
00:34:58she was in hospital
00:34:59for a long time
00:35:00we were the family
00:35:02and of course
00:35:04your mental health suffers
00:35:05because who's
00:35:06looking after you
00:35:07who's helping you
00:35:08process all this
00:35:10life-changing information
00:35:11that's coming at you
00:35:12at a rate of knots
00:35:13so we are raising funds
00:35:15now
00:35:15using all sorts
00:35:17of creative therapies
00:35:19we're using drama therapy
00:35:20art therapy
00:35:21as well as
00:35:22more traditional
00:35:23talking therapy
00:35:24dance therapy
00:35:25to help these kids
00:35:27you know
00:35:27have a better sense
00:35:28of balance
00:35:29when it comes to
00:35:29their mental well-being
00:35:30and therefore
00:35:31hopefully get better
00:35:32because there's
00:35:33a real need for it
00:35:34so that's
00:35:34that's the
00:35:35that's what we're using
00:35:36as
00:35:37we're standing
00:35:38on the shoulders
00:35:38of the murray parish trust
00:35:39and the funds
00:35:40and the awareness
00:35:41and the story we built there
00:35:43with this new endeavor
00:35:44and making a difference
00:35:45making a difference
00:35:46so that
00:35:47I think for us
00:35:49the way this
00:35:50whole story came about
00:35:51was
00:35:52and it does for so many people
00:35:53who lose children
00:35:55or who lose loved ones
00:35:58giving back
00:35:59is a real tonic
00:36:01you know
00:36:02it's a real therapy
00:36:02and for us it was
00:36:03and we had no idea
00:36:04or no ambition
00:36:05to create this
00:36:07legacy for her
00:36:09which has snowballed
00:36:10into something
00:36:11huge
00:36:12and what can we expect
00:36:13more villains
00:36:14or what
00:36:15what's coming up
00:36:16the next one
00:36:17yeah
00:36:17I think so
00:36:18sadly yes
00:36:19I'm beginning to give you
00:36:20this impression
00:36:20I know
00:36:21let's hope the casting directors
00:36:23aren't watching
00:36:24I did a show
00:36:26I filmed a show last year
00:36:27for ITV called
00:36:28Adultery
00:36:28so you know what that's about
00:36:30and sure enough
00:36:32I play an adulterer
00:36:34but it's
00:36:35it's an interesting piece
00:36:36this one
00:36:37it's not like Wild Cherry
00:36:38it's based in the north
00:36:40it's written by Danny Brocklehurst
00:36:41who's a fabulous voice
00:36:42for the north
00:36:43very funny
00:36:44well if you ever get to the place
00:36:45and the time
00:36:46where you need a bit of coaching
00:36:48in the York
00:36:48oh it's okay
00:36:49I've already got it there mate
00:36:50I'm from there
00:36:50are you already?
00:36:51yeah I'm from Manchester
00:36:52yeah but you talk posh now
00:36:53I do yes
00:36:54well only on shows like this
00:36:55me too
00:36:58always nice to have you here
00:36:59thank you
00:37:00now as Clark Gable
00:37:01was heard to say
00:37:02the great thing about the movies
00:37:04is you're giving people
00:37:05little tiny pieces of time
00:37:07that they never forget
00:37:09pretty much like the one
00:37:11we just had with Jim
00:37:11I think
00:37:12we'll remember things about the salmon
00:37:13well the same can be said
00:37:15for the glorious pictures
00:37:16you send us
00:37:17from your daily strolls
00:37:19it's time
00:37:20to walk on the wild side
00:37:50for the
00:37:52can be if it's
00:38:00the 3D
00:38:01yeah
00:38:01the
00:38:02I
00:38:03yeah
00:38:03yeah
00:38:05yeah
00:38:06yeah
00:38:07yeah
00:38:08yeah
00:38:09yeah
00:38:11yeah
00:42:04Thank you, Philip.
00:42:06Take on a whole new meaning for farmers across the country.
00:42:09During a period of joy, but also very little sleep and bleary eyes, we're hugely grateful
00:42:16to welcome back Merist Wood farm manager, Charlie Dodd, her sheep, Jessie and Maggie and four
00:42:22rather gorgeous lambs.
00:42:24And these are rather special ones, Charlie.
00:42:26I mean, they're darker for a start.
00:42:28What are they?
00:42:29So, these are called, you can hear them said lots of different ways.
00:42:32I go for the pronunciation of Zwartbel.
00:42:35Zwartbel.
00:42:36Zwartbel.
00:42:36Zwartbel, but I have heard it said so many different ways, so I'm sure I'm butchering
00:42:41how you would say it for the Dutch, but it basically translates to black and blazed.
00:42:46So, black with a white blazed.
00:42:48Exactly.
00:42:49So, there's lots of different things that they have to have on them in order to be registered
00:42:52as the breed.
00:42:53So, they have to have this beautiful stripe that goes straight down their face.
00:42:57Like a badger.
00:42:57Exactly.
00:42:58They then have to have no more than half a tail with white on it.
00:43:03So, you can see hers beautifully there.
00:43:05You can see the end.
00:43:05We normally get a bottom to camera.
00:43:07We always get a nice bottom to camera, don't we?
00:43:10A light end to the tail, yeah.
00:43:11And then they also have to have at least two white socks.
00:43:15So, you can see they've got, Maggie's got two white socks.
00:43:19At the back, yeah.
00:43:20And a third, actually.
00:43:21I can see she's got it sneaking through between the mud at the moment.
00:43:24If they've only got two white socks, then it has to be the back legs.
00:43:28Right.
00:43:29But they can have all four white socks, all three, if they want to feel special.
00:43:34Zvartable will get that.
00:43:35And the blaze being, you know, black with a white blaze.
00:43:38Exactly that.
00:43:39So, underneath all of this, they are jet black.
00:43:42I was going to say, because the lambs are black, these browns.
00:43:45Are we talking sunburn here?
00:43:47Exactly.
00:43:48Well, not sunburn, sun bleached.
00:43:50We like to call it their highlights at the moment.
00:43:52So, when you're showing them, so we used to show them a very long time ago, you would
00:43:57basically card them out and trim them out.
00:43:59So, you would have this gorgeous jet black fleece to them, because it makes them look
00:44:03spectacular, to be honest with you.
00:44:05We like our sheep living outside.
00:44:07So, they're always going to get this sort of bleaching on top of them.
00:44:10Yeah.
00:44:11When you show them, that's why you sort of trim it away, so that you can be true to the
00:44:14breed.
00:44:15Because, obviously, you would much rather have a sheep outside than one that's not
00:44:18going out into the sunlight.
00:44:19So, what you can't see that I can see is the expression on this lamb in your lap, which
00:44:26is, I really, I'd really rather like it here.
00:44:29I mean, look at this, it's amazing.
00:44:31So, our students, as I'm sure you can imagine, have been giving the lambs lots of cuddles
00:44:35at the moment.
00:44:35So, they're very used to having just a nice little snuggle.
00:44:39It is.
00:44:39I think I've had a bit too much milk.
00:44:42It's, they are amazing.
00:44:44So, these are how old, the lambs?
00:44:46These are about three weeks old.
00:44:47So, they're actually cross-bred to our Wensleydale ram, so that we could play around with a
00:44:51few different fleeces.
00:44:52So, the Wensleydales are known for having a fantastically long, luster fleece.
00:44:57And, as a result, we like to play around with a few different breeds to try and get the
00:45:01best out of them.
00:45:02I've had quite a few Wensleydales swinds in my time.
00:45:04Not quite as steel wool-like as Herdwick, which is really like a Brillo pad, isn't it?
00:45:09Very much so.
00:45:10It's a bit softer kind of thing, isn't it?
00:45:12Yeah, yeah.
00:45:12So, we've got the cross-breds here.
00:45:15Your svartbulls, however, are fantastic milk sheep, basically.
00:45:19So, going way back, they were bred with the milk sheep.
00:45:23So, Jessie, for example, has actually reared triplets four years in a row.
00:45:27This year, she's having a little break with her twins, though.
00:45:30What a slam for us.
00:45:31Oh, gosh.
00:45:32And every year, the numbers grow, which is fantastic to see.
00:45:35So, is the svartbull a breed you would have if you had a small holding?
00:45:39Could you have, you know, two or three?
00:45:40Absolutely. So, where they're a very friendly breed, they're very used to people, they're fairly easygoing, they look after their
00:45:46lambs, they're brilliant, then lots of people would go for them.
00:45:50They're also quite striking in the fact that they're not your typical white sheep.
00:45:53So, because of the striking appearance, that's what actually drew us to them, is they look different, they're slightly more
00:45:58special in a field.
00:46:00They want to be your best friend, so they come running over, and they're brilliant.
00:46:04How do they compare with the Jacob, which is another variety that people may see, which has got dark fleece
00:46:08and mottled fleeces, too?
00:46:09So, absolutely. Your Jacobs have obviously got the horns instead.
00:46:12Yes.
00:46:12So, that puts off some small holders if they don't want them around children.
00:46:15Jacobs are lovely as well.
00:46:18These guys are slightly bigger, and they grow quicker.
00:46:20So, for those that are going for meat, obviously, because they're able to go off much quicker, in a small
00:46:25holding, that's perfect.
00:46:27Before your grass stops growing and the rain starts coming, you can get rid of the lambs.
00:46:30So, from birth to meat is how long?
00:46:32You can do it roughly in five months, and you'll normally finish the lambs out at about 40, 45 kilos.
00:46:38So, they're very fast growing.
00:46:39And a breed, as you say, with no horns?
00:46:41No horns, exactly.
00:46:42So, they're what we call a polled breed, which means that they're born without any horns.
00:46:46You bring so many different animals here, so many different varieties of livestock.
00:46:52What are your own personal favourites?
00:46:54So, I keep the Wednesdaydale sheep.
00:46:56Yeah.
00:46:56So, the Wednesdaydales definitely have to be my favourite, but then I'd say a close second would be the Zvart
00:47:01Bull.
00:47:02Yeah.
00:47:02Is that, because they're quite rare, these now, aren't they?
00:47:05So, the Zvart Bulls now aren't.
00:47:06They used to be a rare breed back in the day, but now they're very, very popular.
00:47:10You'll often see them at country shows and things, with lots of young handlers taking their favourite sheep into the
00:47:16ring.
00:47:17But now there's quite a few of the Zvart Bulls hanging around.
00:47:20Which shows that people knew they needed building up.
00:47:23Do you find that happens?
00:47:24Are people quite willing, as soon as they're informed that a breed is on the endangered list, that somebody will
00:47:29come along?
00:47:30People will come and say, right, we'll have those, we'll keep the breed going.
00:47:33So, it's finding their niche market.
00:47:34Yes.
00:47:34What can they actually give us that's different to just your plain old white sheep?
00:47:38What's different about them?
00:47:40And so, it's finding where they sort of fit in.
00:47:42And once you find that niche, that's when your numbers will soar in the breed themselves.
00:47:46But also vital that we keep a broad gene pool going, isn't it, really?
00:47:49If something slips off, it may well have a particular characteristic that you want to breed back in further down
00:47:55the line of resistance to disease or whatever.
00:47:57So, they're doing lots of research at the moment, the Rare Breed Survival Trust, into looking at actually what our
00:48:03specific British breeds can give us.
00:48:05Whether back in the day there was something that we're missing that possibly is going to come back up.
00:48:10So, they're doing lots of work with the genetics to try and make sure that they're protected in case we
00:48:14can use them in however many years' time to, who knows, cure a disease.
00:48:19You never know.
00:48:20So, do you send a lot of yours out?
00:48:22Do you sell them on?
00:48:24Yes.
00:48:25Yes.
00:48:26So, actually, when we pure breeders of art bulls, they always go to homes.
00:48:31Lots of the others will go into the food chain, to be honest with you, like our crossbreds and things.
00:48:35We want to be honest in the fact that we do a sort of field-to-fork situation.
00:48:41Yeah, yeah.
00:48:41And it's amazing for our students to actually learn that sort of your meat just doesn't come from Tesco's or
00:48:47Waitrose or wherever.
00:48:48You can actually get it from the farmer direct, which is what all of our farmers are trying to say.
00:48:53Let's kind of go to our farmer's direct.
00:48:55You know exactly where your meat is coming from.
00:48:57You know it's had a good life.
00:48:58Exactly.
00:48:59And, I mean, frankly, you've got the life of Riley, haven't you?
00:49:03I can see. I think I want to come back as a svarple if I come back.
00:49:07But it's so good to have you with us.
00:49:09It always is, Charlie. We learn such a lot.
00:49:11And also your reminders that more young people are coming into farming and keeping it going because we most certainly
00:49:17need it.
00:49:18Thanks very much, Charlie.
00:49:25Now they're the iconic short-lived blooms representing the fleeting nature of life,
00:49:31typically lasting only one to two weeks in spring.
00:49:35Here's Leslie Joseph and everything you need to know about cherry blossom.
00:49:41Good morning, Alan.
00:49:42Oh, it's nearly time.
00:49:44I can barely contain myself.
00:49:46There's a moment, just a moment, when the light turns pearly,
00:49:50the air softens and suddenly my favourite trees slip into frothy pink frocks,
00:49:56blushing from branch to tip.
00:50:00Cherry blossom has arrived and subtlety is overrated, darling.
00:50:05Each flower only lasts a week or two.
00:50:08Brief.
00:50:09Dazzling.
00:50:11Gone.
00:50:12Honestly, it's the limited edition handbag of the horticultural world
00:50:16and rather like a good blow-dry, timing is everything.
00:50:20A cold winter, followed by rising spring temperatures, triggers those buds to open.
00:50:27They need a winter chill first, a proper beauty sleep before they're ready for their close-up.
00:50:33In the UK, flowering typically begins in the south in March
00:50:37and gradually moves northwards through April.
00:50:41It's like a pink wave travelling up Britain.
00:50:44Now, of course, cherry blossom isn't just about looking fabulous.
00:50:48Those golden stamens at the centre of each flower are dusted with pollen.
00:50:53An early-seasoned feast for bees and other pollinators just getting back to work.
00:50:58It's generous as well as gorgeous.
00:51:02The magic of cherry blossom lies in its brevity.
00:51:05Wind or rain can sweep it away in days.
00:51:07A gust!
00:51:08And the petals drift down like pink snow.
00:51:12And just like that, the moment passes.
00:51:14But perhaps that's the point.
00:51:16It's not meant to last.
00:51:17Nothing lasts forever.
00:51:20Oh, I'm going all sentimental.
00:51:24Cherry blossom doesn't whisper that spring is here.
00:51:26It throws open the doors, fluffs its petals and declares,
00:51:30Darling, I've arrived.
00:51:33Much like you on a Sunday morning, Alan.
00:51:37Till next time.
00:51:40Ah, the beauty of cherry blossom, a feast for the eyes and the soul
00:51:45as they briefly appear to dance in the sunlight.
00:51:48And then the petals fall in a great cloud,
00:51:53symbolising the transient nature of life.
00:51:56Don't be so miserable, Alan.
00:51:58Thank you, Leslie.
00:51:59Coming up, rosemary, that's for remembrance.
00:52:02Then there are pansies, they're for thoughts, and lavender.
00:52:06Well, that was the perfect way to disguise the Elizabethan odours.
00:52:09I'll say no more.
00:52:11Fresh from offering her expertise on Oscar's favourite hamnet,
00:52:15Jeca McVicca's back to showcase the ways
00:52:18our favourite herbs were used in the Elizabethan era.
00:52:21I'll be back with Jeca and more.
00:52:23Right on to this.
00:52:39Welcome back to Love Your Weekend.
00:52:41While mums should be celebrated every day of the year,
00:52:45Mothering Sunday allows us to show them just how much we care.
00:52:49Andy Clark will be bringing the love and the cocktails
00:52:52with his selection of Mother's Day martinis,
00:52:55including a rhubarb and lemon martini.
00:52:58But first, I know a bank where the wild thyme blows,
00:53:03where oxlips and the nodding violet grows,
00:53:06quite ur-canopied with luscious woodbine,
00:53:10with sweet musk roses and with egg lint.
00:53:13I've lost Gemta.
00:53:14Never mind, Midsummer Night's Dream.
00:53:16Words of Shakespeare,
00:53:17who fondly nods to the herbs and botanicals
00:53:21favoured in his work.
00:53:22So, who better to help us explore
00:53:25the Elizabethan taste for herbs
00:53:27than our very own Jeca McVicca,
00:53:29who, since she was last year,
00:53:31has been very busy as a herb consultant
00:53:34on the movie that everyone's talking about,
00:53:38Hamnet.
00:53:40I have no talent for waiting.
00:53:45A woman in my family see things.
00:53:48What do you see?
00:53:52I see a landscape.
00:53:55Oceans.
00:53:56You're having twins, my girl.
00:53:58Undiscovered countries.
00:54:00What do you wish to do, Hamnet?
00:54:02I shall be one of father's players.
00:54:05Will you be brave?
00:54:06Yes.
00:54:07Will you be brave?
00:54:08Please!
00:54:10When shall we three meet again?
00:54:12Our children's hearts beat.
00:54:15They smile.
00:54:17Play.
00:54:19Never forget for a moment.
00:54:24Gosh.
00:54:25They're all waiting with bated breath
00:54:27for the Oscars tonight.
00:54:28We shall see.
00:54:29Did you have fun working on it
00:54:31with your herbs?
00:54:31I'll put him down there.
00:54:32It was amazing.
00:54:33This wonderful woman called Amanda
00:54:36came to my farm with her team
00:54:38and she does all the flower arranging and sets.
00:54:42I mean, when you actually look at how many times
00:54:44flowers are used in films,
00:54:46so they wanted to know from me
00:54:48how the plants grew,
00:54:50so they came and looked at the herb garden.
00:54:52But then also I took them down the lane
00:54:53where I showed them how the herbs were growing
00:54:56and they bought a lot,
00:54:57which is very jolly,
00:54:58because they were planting
00:55:01the apothecary that is used.
00:55:03Because everybody knew about herbs in those days.
00:55:08And what's fascinating
00:55:09when you get into Shakespeare
00:55:10is how the audience would have known
00:55:12exactly what he was talking about
00:55:14when he was talking about meadow sweet.
00:55:16Like we would know what paracetamol was.
00:55:18Did you see?
00:55:19Yeah.
00:55:20But we've lost that connection.
00:55:21And I mean, the herbs they used,
00:55:24and the herbs, everything was about this time of year.
00:55:27Yes.
00:55:27And so sage, for example,
00:55:29and thyme, I've got two times there,
00:55:31and fennel.
00:55:32And this, this is a classic.
00:55:36This is a sweet marjoram
00:55:38and it's actually a perennial one
00:55:40which grows in my garden,
00:55:41which I picked this morning.
00:55:42And that was used by the rich.
00:55:47A gentleman like yourself
00:55:48would have used it as a snuff.
00:55:51Oh, really?
00:55:52What, dried?
00:55:53Yes.
00:55:53And used it as a snuff.
00:55:55And the women would have put it
00:55:56as in tussie-mussies, you know,
00:55:58because everyone slopped out in the road.
00:56:00Yeah, it smelt.
00:56:01It smelt horrendous.
00:56:02Stick this in your nose.
00:56:03And that wasn't eaten as a culinary herb
00:56:05until we went on package holidays
00:56:07and ate pizza.
00:56:09Goodness me!
00:56:10Whereas here,
00:56:11if they'd been foraging,
00:56:12they would have picked the wild oregano,
00:56:15which is quite often called pot marjoram,
00:56:18because it went in the one pot.
00:56:21Yes.
00:56:21And, I mean,
00:56:22I find it fascinating,
00:56:23because all of these,
00:56:24mint there was there,
00:56:25sorrel,
00:56:26rosemary,
00:56:27salibonet.
00:56:27Well, you've got a lovely blue flowered rosemary.
00:56:29Is that your particular strain of rosemary?
00:56:31Is that Jecker's blue?
00:56:32It is, yes.
00:56:32You're too embarrassed to say,
00:56:33but I won't.
00:56:34It's a glorious,
00:56:35really blue flowered form of rosemary.
00:56:37It's been since December.
00:56:38Ah.
00:56:38And it gives petrol joy.
00:56:41But I really want to show you what they had in those days.
00:56:45They had no Solanaceae family.
00:56:47So there's no tomatoes,
00:56:48no potatoes.
00:56:49No potatoes.
00:56:50Because Walter Raleigh would have come later with that.
00:56:53Yes, he did.
00:56:53And so what they had was turnips, carrots.
00:56:58Underrated vegetable, the turnip.
00:57:00Totally.
00:57:01If you grow them small,
00:57:03literally no bigger than that,
00:57:04and boil them,
00:57:06and butter and pepper them.
00:57:07I love turnips.
00:57:08Well, turnips and parsnips.
00:57:09But did you know,
00:57:10carrots were white or purple in those days?
00:57:13Were they?
00:57:13Not orange.
00:57:14Hence the heritage varieties, Richard.
00:57:16And leeks.
00:57:17So, and this is what they had.
00:57:20This is one of the one-dish pots.
00:57:22Because everyone cooked over an open fire in one pot.
00:57:27Hence pot herb.
00:57:29Aha.
00:57:30So if it's called a pot herb,
00:57:31like pot marjoram, pot marigold,
00:57:34or you would say this is a pot herb,
00:57:36it's because it went in the pot.
00:57:38It smells absolutely good.
00:57:38So this is called a potage.
00:57:41And it's a form of cooking.
00:57:42And I have made you...
00:57:45Look at this.
00:57:46It is literally...
00:57:47It is those ingredients.
00:57:49And that is all.
00:57:51Wonderful.
00:57:52Let me have a taste.
00:57:52Have a taste.
00:57:53See what you think.
00:57:55I've got to be kind here, haven't I?
00:57:56No.
00:57:58And it's thickened.
00:57:59Oh, it's gorgeous.
00:58:00And it's thickened with porridge.
00:58:03With porridge.
00:58:03Because they didn't have flour.
00:58:05There's something herby in here.
00:58:07Well, there's...
00:58:08All those.
00:58:08Yeah, whatever I fancied putting in.
00:58:10So there was thyme,
00:58:11a bit of sage.
00:58:12Oh, I can't tell you.
00:58:13This is so gorgeous.
00:58:14And it's very, very good for you.
00:58:16Totally healthy.
00:58:17And no cholesterols.
00:58:19So I've done that.
00:58:20And then this is something else
00:58:22that they would have had.
00:58:23Sorry, I'm eating too much.
00:58:25I'm sorry.
00:58:25That's quite all right.
00:58:26I can give you some more to have for...
00:58:27What have you got now?
00:58:27This, I think it's amazing.
00:58:31At this time of year,
00:58:32the wild garlic looks like this.
00:58:36Yeah.
00:58:37And this is the perfect, perfect size.
00:58:39Oh, that's amazing.
00:58:40And they didn't have bread in poor houses.
00:58:43So there's oat cakes.
00:58:44Yeah.
00:58:45And they literally had,
00:58:47they had cheese
00:58:49and they would have,
00:58:50this is what they would have also had with...
00:58:53So you've mixed the wild garlic with soft cheese.
00:58:57That's it.
00:58:58Gorgeous.
00:58:58Isn't that superb?
00:59:00And then the other thing,
00:59:01of course, they had a lot of,
00:59:03I hope this is hot enough, yes,
00:59:05is they would have steeped things like thyme.
00:59:09Yeah.
00:59:10Now, if you're going to make a herb tea,
00:59:12please do not add the kettle boiling to the herb.
00:59:19Because then all the essential oils boil off.
00:59:22So you put that in there.
00:59:23So it's just hot water, but not boiling water.
00:59:25Exactly.
00:59:26Hot, hot.
00:59:26Mushing it round a bit.
00:59:27Mushing it round.
00:59:29You're meant to let it steep for a little bit.
00:59:31And then, because you have a cough and a cold,
00:59:34I'll let that...
00:59:35Okay.
00:59:35I'm trying to cover it up.
00:59:37It's the usual.
00:59:38Yes, it is.
00:59:39I bought you some of our honey.
00:59:41Oh, I smell that.
00:59:41Absolutely superb.
00:59:43Oh, that's a richness to it, isn't there?
00:59:45And they always say you should...
00:59:46And they had honey in Elizabethan times.
00:59:49And local honey, too.
00:59:50Yes.
00:59:50Because they didn't have sugar.
00:59:52No, of course.
00:59:53Yeah.
00:59:54Yeah, I mean, when you start going through that
00:59:57and go back to what they had and what they cooked with.
01:00:00Oh, it's very exciting.
01:00:01Is that going in now?
01:00:01No, no, it's going into a mug for you.
01:00:03You've got a posh mug.
01:00:04Oh, I have Elizabethan mug.
01:00:07Genuine.
01:00:09There we go.
01:00:10Mashing it up a bit.
01:00:11Yes, because I'm afraid this will be a little weak.
01:00:15We could have given it a little bit longer.
01:00:16We could have done, but there we go.
01:00:17So that's going to melt the honey.
01:00:18Yeah, it'll melt the honey, which will soothe your throat.
01:00:21You're very...
01:00:23But if ever you have a cough or a cold,
01:00:26this last thing at night is really, really good,
01:00:29especially for coughs, because it lines your throat.
01:00:32Did the Elizabethans have whiskey?
01:00:35I don't know.
01:00:36I think you need to do your research there.
01:00:38I'll come and help you research.
01:00:40Will you?
01:00:40Will you?
01:00:40I wonder if they did.
01:00:42We could go on the road, couldn't we?
01:00:43We could go on the road.
01:00:45Alan and Jecker's whiskey trip with herbs.
01:00:49Fantastic.
01:00:49I could get you to eat wild, then.
01:00:52Yeah.
01:00:53But tasting all these things just reminds you
01:00:56how, you know, really full of flavour and good for you they are.
01:00:59And also shows you the knowledge of plants.
01:01:04It doesn't matter which way you go.
01:01:06It really keeps you young and keeps you going
01:01:09because there's always something new to learn.
01:01:12Was it revolting?
01:01:13No, it's delicious, actually.
01:01:14Oh, good.
01:01:14And this woman is a prime example of herbs keeping you young.
01:01:17She's 236.
01:01:18Yes.
01:01:19Isn't it astonishing?
01:01:20And a dear mate for a long time.
01:01:22For a long, long time.
01:01:23That was fab.
01:01:24All fab.
01:01:25And a reminder to us.
01:01:26Good ingredients.
01:01:27Good herbs.
01:01:28Simple.
01:01:29Simple herbs.
01:01:30Good veg.
01:01:31Seasonal.
01:01:31Yes.
01:01:32Yeah.
01:01:32Important.
01:01:33And grow your own.
01:01:35Absolutely.
01:01:35And you can catch all the Oscar coverage tonight
01:01:38on ITV1 at 10.15.
01:01:41We wish Jekka and Hamnet the very best of luck.
01:01:45Now, Chesterton Mill has been standing tall since 1847.
01:01:50And for over a century, its sales and milling stones turn grain into flour for the surrounding
01:01:57Cambridge bakeries.
01:01:58Today, well, the mill may have lost its sales and ceased grinding, but it still creates something
01:02:04rather magnificent and unexpected as Manor Farm's wine connoisseur, Toni Oshoma found out when
01:02:11she decided to pay them a visit.
01:02:22Once seen as a laughing stock, English wines are now amongst the most dynamic in the world.
01:02:28Thanks to changing climates, chalky soils and a new wave of winemakers, England is producing
01:02:34really high quality, sparkling and still wines, proving that with a bit of patience and a
01:02:41bit of skill, even the most unexpected places can produce the most wonderful of things.
01:02:47I've been to a lot of wineries, but never one in a windmill.
01:02:53Hi, Toni.
01:02:54Welcome.
01:02:55Hi, Chris.
01:02:55Thank you for having me in your underground operation.
01:02:58So tell us, what got you into wine?
01:03:00So my background's actually in music journalism.
01:03:03From then, I sort of scratched the itch a little bit and ended up enrolling at Agriculture
01:03:07College to do a Bachelor of Science degree, three years in viticulture and enology, and
01:03:12from there I set up an urban winery back in 2020.
01:03:16So a lot of people associate wineries with the countryside, but urban wineries are a little
01:03:21bit different, aren't they?
01:03:22We make the wine here like you would in any normal winery, but we don't grow the grapes.
01:03:26So the South East is known for perfect grape growing conditions because of things like the
01:03:30chalk soils.
01:03:31Do you get your grapes locally?
01:03:32So I'm very fortunate to be based here in Cambridge because the hotspot for grape growing
01:03:36for still wines is Essex, and particularly the Crouch Valley, which is only 35 miles from
01:03:41here.
01:03:41But we source grapes from all over the country, from Oxfordshire to Kent and further south
01:03:45as well.
01:03:45So there aren't many wine miles involved.
01:03:47It means that we can pick first thing in the morning and by lunchtime the wine is on
01:03:51its journey.
01:03:52But even in the cold of winter, there's still so much work to be done.
01:03:56And Chris does every single bit on his own.
01:03:59So Chris, this is the wine thief, isn't it?
01:04:01I love that name.
01:04:02This is the time of year when I'm testing each of the barrels to make sure I know where
01:04:06the wine is at and when it might be released.
01:04:08So you've got to make sure the wines come out perfect at this stage.
01:04:11Exactly.
01:04:11So they went through fermentation in the autumn.
01:04:14We're now winter, but these will be released in the spring.
01:04:17So it's a crucial time to taste the wines and find out what they're doing.
01:04:20So we've got Bacchus here, which is known to be one of the most widely grown white grapes
01:04:24in the UK, and it's known for its aromatic notes, isn't it, and citrus, a bit of green
01:04:28notes as well.
01:04:29And I can smell it already.
01:04:34Wow.
01:04:35Really fresh and bright acidity.
01:04:37Yeah, exactly what I'm looking for at this stage.
01:04:40This will be another sort of six to eight weeks in barrel before being bottled.
01:04:43And in that time, I think it will get a little bit more weight to it.
01:04:46But it's got that lovely freshness at the moment, which I'm really happy about.
01:04:49Lovely.
01:04:49It tastes really clean as well.
01:04:50I love it.
01:04:52So, Chris, this is yet another thing that you do all by yourself.
01:04:56Roughly, how many bottles do you do a year?
01:04:58Well, most of the bottles are waxed.
01:05:00And this cellar, even though it's small, has got capacity for a sort of 6,000 bottle.
01:05:05And it's quite an ancient practice, isn't it?
01:05:07So why do you actually do this?
01:05:09Yes, so they would have been waxing bottles of wine well before they would have had aluminium
01:05:13or different types of foil on top.
01:05:15I primarily do it for aesthetics, really.
01:05:17It helps with the look and feel of the end product.
01:05:22So here we've got a Chardonnay, which is the most widely grown white grape in the world.
01:05:26Absolutely.
01:05:27And in England, we can now make premium Chardonnays that are world-beating.
01:05:32That is delicious.
01:05:33That is so good.
01:05:34I'm getting really nice zesty notes.
01:05:36So a bit of lemon peel, a bit of orange as well.
01:05:39And so, Chris, why has Chardonnay become so easy to grow in the UK?
01:05:43Well, the climate's changing.
01:05:44It's a little bit warmer, which helps to get that ripeness.
01:05:46But also, the people who are planting and growing the grapes have got levels of expertise that previously weren't in
01:05:51the UK industry.
01:05:52So we're really learning from other areas.
01:05:54And the proof is in the wine.
01:05:56The future's bright for English wines.
01:05:58And who'd have thought it?
01:05:59You can even get a bright and bold Sauvignon Blanc made and grown right here in the UK.
01:06:06Cheers.
01:06:12Oh, thank you, Tony.
01:06:13Somebody had to do it, didn't they?
01:06:15Coming up, she's a titan of the literary world, a writing legend, with countless bestsellers and a specialist in the
01:06:23killer thriller.
01:06:24Linda Laplount, telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
01:06:28I'll see you with Linda for some gentle interrogation right after this.
01:06:33Go nowhere.
01:06:48Welcome back.
01:06:49Coming up, it's the quintessential cocktail.
01:06:51But for a recipe that usually involves just two ingredients, the debate over its correct preparation is endless.
01:06:59Drinks King, Andy Clark, sets the record straight with his perfect martini, alongside several other Moorish Mothering Sunday recipes,
01:07:08including his rhubarb and limoncello, and a cream tea martini mixed with cream and maple syrup.
01:07:14Oh, but first, she's the woman responsible for some of our most popular dramas, most of which I watch on
01:07:22a regular basis with Mrs. T and a nice G in tea.
01:07:26Here's a taster of a night in at Titchmarsh Towers.
01:07:30Open up, it's the police!
01:07:32We're investigating the brutal, sadistic murder of a young woman.
01:07:36I killed them both.
01:07:37Do you have a relationship with James Lelton?
01:07:39Promise me you'll leave Commander Blake out of this.
01:07:41Just keep it as low profile as possible.
01:07:43Yes, Commander.
01:07:45There is no whole truth. Do you know who told me that?
01:07:47You've impressed a lot of people, and if you get promoted, Mike gets the booted in.
01:07:51I'm just doing my job.
01:07:52There are repercussions.
01:07:54Be careful how you come and go.
01:07:56From now on, this place will be headquarters.
01:07:58Linda?
01:08:01Now's your chance, love.
01:08:03In or out.
01:08:13Good girl.
01:08:14A perfect example there of Laplante trademark gritty, compelling drama.
01:08:19I so miss the 80s hair.
01:08:21I really...
01:08:21Well, there you are.
01:08:23I don't know.
01:08:23I'm still here.
01:08:25Before we do anything else, happy 83rd birthday today.
01:08:30I know.
01:08:30Oh, I love it.
01:08:32It's very hard to actually realise that you're 83.
01:08:38Don't give in to it.
01:08:39Oh, I know.
01:08:40The thing is, though, I keep looking at people in zoomer frames and thinking, how old are they?
01:08:47No, not yet.
01:08:50The reality is it's all luck.
01:08:52Yeah.
01:08:53You know.
01:08:53And also, the ability to keep being fascinated, I think, by, particularly in your case, by crime.
01:09:03You know, we saw that, you know, widows, prime suspects.
01:09:06It's amazing catalogue over all those years.
01:09:11Clearly, every time something new comes along and captures your imagination.
01:09:16And the latest, the final, Jack War, Sacrifice, the final one.
01:09:23Is this rather like killing off Poirot for Agatha Christie?
01:09:26Is it the same sort of...
01:09:27Yeah, it is.
01:09:28Did you feel like that when you were doing it?
01:09:30Should I do this?
01:09:31Well, there comes a point.
01:09:33I had carefully constructed through all the Jack War novels that there is a danger element.
01:09:40He's a risk.
01:09:42Yeah.
01:09:42He may be lovely.
01:09:43You may like him.
01:09:44And I want you to like him.
01:09:46But there's a risk.
01:09:48And I think the moment he learnt his father was Harry Rawlins, all the way back to widows,
01:10:00that he knew there was a darkness inside him.
01:10:04And it has come out slowly.
01:10:07But...
01:10:08You obviously knew all that then right at the beginning.
01:10:11Did you know it was going to come out?
01:10:12Or did it sort of...
01:10:13No, I knew.
01:10:14You did know.
01:10:15Reality is, I wish I hadn't.
01:10:17I wish I hadn't wanted...
01:10:20It happens.
01:10:21Things like...
01:10:22It happened to me.
01:10:23I'm at an event and a woman stands up on the Q&A and she says,
01:10:28What happened to Harry Rawlins' baby that he had when the series Widows was on?
01:10:34And I said, well, you know, I never thought.
01:10:37And then I got home and I thought, where did he go?
01:10:40Yeah.
01:10:40He's dead.
01:10:41He was murdered by Dolly.
01:10:43Oh, I've got a long time.
01:10:46He could be a police officer.
01:10:48Wallop.
01:10:49In I go.
01:10:50Jack Waugh is born.
01:10:52And I loved him.
01:10:56But there comes a point where I am morally, I don't want you to back a police officer that
01:11:07is going bad.
01:11:09And so I knew time was going to come.
01:11:13Oh, now that's difficult then for you, isn't it, really?
01:11:15Because, yeah, you've got to...
01:11:17He's got to go.
01:11:18Yeah, you've got to exert your own justice on you.
01:11:20And it's awful.
01:11:20Is it?
01:11:21It's awful.
01:11:21When I started fiction, Rosamund Pilcher said to me once, I rang her up when I finished
01:11:25my first novel and shit, oh, she said, you've just said goodbye to all your friends.
01:11:29And I thought, oh, yeah, there is a sense of bereavement about it, isn't it?
01:11:34Yeah, you love him.
01:11:35Yeah.
01:11:35I couldn't kill him off.
01:11:38I just, I was weaving and moving and making this huge plot and this dynamic storyline
01:11:46to keep you turning the pages.
01:11:48And all the time I knew something bad was going to really happen.
01:11:53And so, you know, eventually you think, better find a new one, get another one, which I'm
01:12:01working on already.
01:12:03It's evident whenever I talk to you that you've begun your life as an actress, which
01:12:07is, you know, wonderful fun because you can bring to your stories and to your storytelling
01:12:11of them, all the talents of a thesp.
01:12:15Yeah.
01:12:15Now tell me about Educating Marmalade.
01:12:17Oh, it was just one, you know, when you're a working actress, you would very much like
01:12:24to do Edgar Blatt.
01:12:26Of course.
01:12:27You know, you've got to go where the money is to earn a living.
01:12:31But I love this because John Byrd, who was an adorable man, lovely comedic actor, and one
01:12:39day we were filming and he came and he said, he was in costume, a suit, he said, I just
01:12:46got
01:12:46to nip off, he's got a problem with the family, I'll be back, I'll be back in time for afternoon
01:12:51shoot, nobody panic.
01:12:53When he came back and he had a tie around here and he said, sorry, sorry I'm late, I've been
01:13:02with the RSPCA.
01:13:03And he said, what's happened, what's happened, he said, I lost one of my wallabies.
01:13:09And he goes, how did you get the wallaby John?
01:13:14And he said, well, I've got two, and it's like you're looking at somebody, two wallabies
01:13:23in a Wimbledon garden, and he didn't notice that one had hopped and hopped over because
01:13:31they hopped so fast back and forth.
01:13:32And he'd been over the hedges to get his wallaby back, lovely, that was the joy of working
01:13:40in those days.
01:13:41That's okay, well here we are, educating Marmalade, not a wallaby.
01:13:45What's this woman on about?
01:13:47I think I understand.
01:13:49What you're saying is, we should send our little girl to some scruffy day school, where
01:13:54she would be bullied, robbed and generally tortured by huge working class louts.
01:14:00Is that what you're saying?
01:14:03Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:14:08Well yes, yes, that is what I'm saying.
01:14:12Oh I think that's an excellent idea.
01:14:14First class.
01:14:15Marmalade!
01:14:16You call cop.
01:14:18Ah!
01:14:20Marmalade dear, you're going to go to Cringe Hill Comprehensive.
01:14:25Love the accent there.
01:14:26It was the wig.
01:14:28Why aren't you, I'm looking similar now.
01:14:29No, no, no.
01:14:30You've been paid supreme compliments over the years and quite right too, for the quality
01:14:34of your writing, the extent of your writing.
01:14:36How extensively do you plot, or do you let it take its own course?
01:14:40Heavily.
01:14:41Heavily plotted.
01:14:41Heavily.
01:14:42Heavily.
01:14:43Because I always encourage other writers to go to source, because you can get anything
01:14:49off the computer, anything you want, but it's flatline.
01:14:53You get the netty gritty and the good stuff when you interview somebody.
01:15:00And that's been, I mean, my major, you know, I wave the flag face to face.
01:15:06You can't beat it.
01:15:08You can't beat it.
01:15:08And I'm very, because I do a podcast, and all the scientists that give me their time,
01:15:14you know, I interview them.
01:15:15And I just say to writers, listen, I'm asking questions that every writer wants to know about.
01:15:22And listen to how they feed it back.
01:15:25They're all brilliant.
01:15:26Brilliant people.
01:15:27And the advance of scientific knowledge now, from forensic, if you think they are discovering
01:15:37a 40-year-old murder case, a cold case, the familiar DNA tracking to families and picking up.
01:15:50It's like you have to kill very, very carefully.
01:15:57Carefully.
01:15:58Yeah.
01:15:59They leave a trace.
01:16:00There's a trace everywhere.
01:16:02And it's hard to believe these traces.
01:16:05You know, I'm leaving traces all over the place here.
01:16:10My boots, a suede on my boots.
01:16:13Yes, and the mud you brought in here when you came up.
01:16:16Linda, a delight as ever.
01:16:18Bless you.
01:16:19Good luck with sacrifice.
01:16:21Thank you very much.
01:16:22Oh, dear.
01:16:23And I'm sorry for your loss.
01:16:27Right, a moment of calm now, for all that excitement.
01:16:30Sit back, relax, and unwind.
01:16:33It's time for today's Ode to Joy.
01:16:36Bye.
01:16:57Well, I hope, for now.
01:18:29Yeah, and James. They're already primed and primed-suspected, ready to go.
01:18:35Save one for me. We'll be back with the martinis very shortly.
01:18:55Now, it's undoubtedly one of the most iconic cocktails of all time.
01:18:59People have been drinking it for a century, and there's certainly no cocktail with so many variations as the martini.
01:19:06And with so many options, it means there's a martini for everyone, or shall I say, for every mum.
01:19:12Here to serve up his ultimate Mother's Day martini cocktails, Manor Farm's very own James Bond, shaken and often stirred,
01:19:21drinks expert Andy Clark.
01:19:23And Linda and James have joined me at our Manor Farm bar.
01:19:26You've got a head start on me. I hope there's still something in your glasses.
01:19:30Martinis. That's not how you make a martini. That's the most often said remark, isn't it?
01:19:34It is. There are many different versions of a martini in many different ways to make them.
01:19:39So don't let anybody judge the way you enjoy or you make your martinis, okay?
01:19:43So we've got a few ones here that maybe aren't traditional martinis, but we're going to have a bit of
01:19:47fun, okay?
01:19:48So we're going to start with a bit of a classic dry martini with a twist.
01:19:52I'm calling this one Mum's the Slurd, okay?
01:19:55Oh, dear.
01:19:55So, yeah, because they're quite strong. So be warned, all of these are quite strong because the martinis are strong.
01:20:00So this is made with Boat Yard double gin from Fermanagh in Northern Ireland.
01:20:06This is one wonderful, wonderful gin.
01:20:08They were the first B Corp distillery in the whole of the island of Ireland, and it's so smooth.
01:20:13This is one gin that I would have neat.
01:20:16It's absolutely beautiful, and I've mixed that with a little bit of Schofield's Dry White Vermouth by Astorley Brothers,
01:20:22made in London, a fortified, aromatised wine, and then I've expressed the oils of a lemon rind on the top.
01:20:28That is a proper martini.
01:20:30Yeah, it's smooth.
01:20:31It's on the table.
01:20:32I know, but look, there's five of them.
01:20:33Yes, I know, but sip.
01:20:35It is smooth.
01:20:36I know that if I had a few of these, I would be very piddly because I think it's exceedingly
01:20:46strong.
01:20:47Do you ever drink martini?
01:20:48I mean, I'm going to have a sip.
01:20:49Do you ever drink martini?
01:20:51Never.
01:20:52Never?
01:20:52Never, never, never.
01:20:54So, Andy has introduced a little kind of martini.
01:20:57You're introducing me to get paralytic very quickly.
01:20:59It is very strong, but oh my goodness me.
01:21:02My line is always...
01:21:03Very nice.
01:21:04P.G. Woodhouse called a stiffener.
01:21:06Absolutely.
01:21:07Liner.
01:21:07You chose to do a gin one to start then, rather than a vodka one.
01:21:10Absolutely.
01:21:11We're going to move on to vodka later on, and I've got a few twists on the alcohol front as
01:21:14well.
01:21:14Now, this one is called Pommie Dearest.
01:21:18So, it's basically, as you can probably tell by the colour, it's got a little bit of pomegranate in it.
01:21:22And the gin in here is Spirit of Bristol Slowberry Gin.
01:21:26A lovely man, known as Random Pete, once bought a pub, bought more pubs, made his own distillery, and now
01:21:32handpicks slowberries, which are then frozen so the skin cracks.
01:21:37And you know when you freeze fruit, berries, and then you taste them once they've defrost, and they're even jammier
01:21:42than before?
01:21:43And I've put that Slowberry Gin with pomegranate juice to make a really fruity, fruity martini.
01:21:49It's like cherry brandy.
01:21:51It's good.
01:21:52Isn't that funny?
01:21:53Because there's no cherries in it, but it's got a cinnamon.
01:21:55Cinnamon.
01:21:55Yeah, because of the botanicals in here, there is a hint of spice to that Slowberry Gin, and I think
01:22:01it's wonderful.
01:22:01I love everything from the bottle to the product, and it's literally just pomegranate juice and the Slowberry Gin.
01:22:09And I've put little jewels of pomegranate swimming in the bottom there, just so, don't choke on them, but they
01:22:14look pretty.
01:22:15It's quite nice, actually.
01:22:17Nice.
01:22:17Quite nice.
01:22:19It is sweet.
01:22:19It would slip down very, very easily.
01:22:21Well, you could, if you wanted to put a squeeze of lime or a squeeze of lemon in there, you
01:22:25could if you wanted to zing it up a bit.
01:22:27But I think, hopefully, as we head into spring, we can hopefully, yeah, enjoy the fruits as we're smelling the
01:22:33flowers out in the garden.
01:22:34Gorgeous.
01:22:35I'm glad you like.
01:22:35Okay, now, the next martini, give this one a swirl because there is lemon juice in here.
01:22:40This is mother-nose zest, okay?
01:22:42I love a lemon twist on a martini, and what I've done here is used a limoncello from Hove near
01:22:49Brighton.
01:22:50It's Madame Jennifer Limoncello, tiny distillery in Poets' Corner, and I absolutely love it.
01:22:55But to go with the lemon, I have added Warner's Rhubarb Gin from Northamptonshire.
01:23:01Tom and Tina have 16 acres of farm where they grow the botanicals.
01:23:04A third of this full-strength gin is rhubarb juice.
01:23:08And the lemon and the rhubarb with a dash of lemon juice is what I'm calling my mother's note zest.
01:23:13Well, a bit of lemon in rhubarb crumble works, doesn't it?
01:23:15Well, it's like having that zest of lemon over the top of your, yeah, the top of the crumble.
01:23:19I think you get that lovely English flavour of the rhubarb, the little hint of the limoncello, and then it's
01:23:26balanced out with the lemon juice.
01:23:27It's lovely.
01:23:28I think a lot of rhubarb and ginger gin.
01:23:31Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yes.
01:23:33And you can have that with the ginger ale, it's always nice.
01:23:35Yeah, so you could, if you wanted to add your favourite ginger ale or tonic to this to make a
01:23:40longer drink, it's not traditional, but some people don't do the very strong martinis, so you could do that.
01:23:45Linda, are we enjoying?
01:23:47Yes, very much so.
01:23:49Three good ones so far.
01:23:50Good.
01:23:50Now, this one may divide the barn, because I quite like a savoury cocktail, okay, and this is what I'm
01:23:58calling mum's in a pickle.
01:23:59So before you sip this, in front of you, you have a couple of bowls, you have some little silver
01:24:04skin onions, and you have some little cornichons.
01:24:07If you wanted to have a little bite, a little taster, and also the crisps are pickle and dill crisps.
01:24:12So, basically, if you go from savoury to sweet, or from sweet to savoury, adjust your palate, because the first
01:24:18sip will taste a bit strange.
01:24:19So, go in for it, get yourself acclimatised.
01:24:23Mmm.
01:24:23Yep.
01:24:24We've had this conversation before about pickled onions sometimes can make other things taste a bit funny.
01:24:28Mmm.
01:24:29So, anyway, mum's in a pickle.
01:24:30This is based on a Gibson.
01:24:32A Gibson is a dry martini where you would garnish with a cocktail or a silver skin onion.
01:24:37So, I have used Witchmark Distillery from Wiltshire, a barley vodka made on an estate in the middle of acres
01:24:44of beautiful land.
01:24:44It's filled to bottle on the estate.
01:24:47And with that, because it's actually quite a cereal and saline vodka, it's got a savoury edge to it.
01:24:53So, I've put with it the Pickle House Pickle Juice.
01:24:56Now, this is made in Suffolk at the Founders' Grandmother's Farm.
01:24:59And this is apple cider vinegar, which is infused with cucumber, celery, fennel, and dill.
01:25:05So, there's a hint of savoury about it.
01:25:07That's a completely different taste to that person.
01:25:10Much more preferable, isn't it?
01:25:11I love it.
01:25:12I'm not sure.
01:25:13I mean, I love it.
01:25:14It's so savoury.
01:25:15See, I like a Bloody Mary.
01:25:16And actually, they make a tomato juice, which is spiced, and they put the pickle juice in it for that,
01:25:21almost like it's a Virgin Mary, but it tastes like a Bloody Mary.
01:25:24And getting pear drops.
01:25:26Yeah.
01:25:26Yeah, you get that with pear drops.
01:25:27You know the pear drops you get, and they eventually take the skin off the roof of your mouth after
01:25:31about two minutes.
01:25:32There's a hint of acetone, whatever it is.
01:25:34You've got a vegetal note, which goes into a slight bit of stone fruit, if that makes sense.
01:25:39Right.
01:25:39Right, what's our last?
01:25:40What's our Grand Cherni?
01:25:40The final cocktail.
01:25:41So, if you're thinking on Mothering Sunday, you've had a nice Sunday roast.
01:25:44Maybe you haven't got room for dessert, but you know me, Alan.
01:25:46I like making my own cream liqueurs.
01:25:48So, this is Mars Creamtini.
01:25:51So, this, you'll see there's a little digestive biscuit half rim.
01:25:56You can choose whether you go biscuit rim or not biscuit rim.
01:25:58Oh, I've done both.
01:25:59So, it is single malt whisky.
01:26:00It is cold tea.
01:26:02It is double cream and a dash of golden syrup.
01:26:05Okay?
01:26:06So, the whisky is Spirit of Yorkshire Distillery, Filey Bay, flagship single malt, made on the coast of North Yorkshire.
01:26:13The first single malt to be made in Yorkshire.
01:26:15You know, when I stayed at Butlins in Filey when I was a boy, they didn't have this and there
01:26:19and then.
01:26:19Otherwise, I might never have left.
01:26:22A single malt from Yorkshire.
01:26:24Yeah.
01:26:25Like, this neat, I'm a bit of a whisky fan.
01:26:28That neat is divine.
01:26:30You get vanilla, you get a bit of...
01:26:31There we go.
01:26:32Go for your life, love.
01:26:34But you can make a cream liqueur really easily.
01:26:37And what I did, because it's got tea in it, because I'm a bit of a tea fan, I've used
01:26:40cold tea,
01:26:41and I just thought I'm going to put a little bit of digestive around the edge
01:26:43to give that afternoon dunking biscuits in tea vibe.
01:26:47One, two, three.
01:26:48Do you like it?
01:26:49I do.
01:26:49I couldn't have more than one.
01:26:52Yeah.
01:26:53Well, yeah, certainly not after the other four.
01:26:55No.
01:26:55No.
01:26:56It is, Richard, but you don't want...
01:26:57You actually sort of need the texture of the cream to balance out the alcoholic nature.
01:27:03There's quite a lot of whisky in there, but I think the dairy masks how much is in it.
01:27:07But you don't want it too sweet.
01:27:08Linda, is that hitting the spot or not?
01:27:10Yes, because I do drink whisky.
01:27:13Quite a lot.
01:27:15I like a hot toddy.
01:27:17Yeah.
01:27:17And these actually, this could come at night for me quite nicely.
01:27:21It's a lovely finisher to a meal or to an evening.
01:27:25There's a great roundness to it as a drink.
01:27:27I'm going to try this at home.
01:27:29Have a go.
01:27:30She says as she falls off her stool.
01:27:32I'm going to try this too.
01:27:34Just black tea and then chilled in, just leave it in the mug, pour it in.
01:27:39Black tea.
01:27:40Black tea, just an English breakfast tea, really.
01:27:42And then, I love it.
01:27:44You could do coffee if you wanted to.
01:27:45I'd just like to think we've given you a good day out.
01:27:48Yes.
01:27:48Courtesy of Andy, really.
01:27:50Thank you very much, all three.
01:27:51That's it for today.
01:27:52Thanks to Linda, to James, and to Andy, particularly.
01:27:56And, of course, our gorgeous ewes and lambs.
01:27:59We'll be back next week for some more barnside banter.
01:28:02Fletcher's Family Farms next, but I'll leave you with these words from Lee Marvin, no less.
01:28:08Ah, stardom.
01:28:09They put your name on a star in the sidewalk on Hollywood Boulevard,
01:28:14and you walk down and find a pile of dog manure on it.
01:28:17That tells the whole story, baby.
01:28:22Funnily enough, all my old American actors, impersonations, sound the same.
01:28:26Clark Gable was very similar.
01:28:27Clark Gable was very similar to Lee Marvin.
01:28:32Happy Oscars to all those of you.
01:28:35And happy Mothering Sunday from all of us here.
01:28:38Cheers.
01:28:39Cheers.
01:28:39Cheers, everyone.
01:28:48Cheers.
01:28:50Cheers.
01:28:52Cheers.
01:29:03Cheers.
01:29:05Cheers.
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