00:00People judge us because of our 34 year age gap.
00:03I'm Phil and I'm 60.
00:05I'm Lenny.
00:06I'm 24.
00:07She's my missus.
00:08I always get comments like, that's weird, man.
00:12Age, red flag, so much potential wasted.
00:16I was 23.
00:18I've got a lot of comments saying that the baby's going to have to go to school and tell
00:21everyone that her dad died because he was so old.
00:24He looks like her grandpa.
00:25My friend Brendan's coming over today to talk about our relationship.
00:30A little bit apprehensive, just with the whole age gap and Phil having kids as well.
00:36Didn't want her to get hurt again.
00:39I'm Lenny.
00:40I'm 24 and my man is 60.
00:43We met at Warwick in like a rest home and Phil was gardening and he looked like a hard working
00:50man and hadn't had a hard working man before so that kind of drew me to him.
00:57I like the colour he got.
00:58I always liked an older man.
01:00Ooh.
01:01Lovely strong colour.
01:02I've only really been in one other relationship.
01:06Often you would break things so that I could come and fix them.
01:09Well, not fully break things.
01:10This door handle's falling off.
01:13I couldn't fix that.
01:14Yeah.
01:14Do you want me to help paint?
01:16Um.
01:17That sounds like a no.
01:19And then I just messaged him and he just wasn't getting the hint.
01:23Until you come up and ask for a kiss and a cuddle.
01:26Yep.
01:27I got it then.
01:27It was all over after then.
01:28Yeah.
01:29Pretty much.
01:30It was so young, beautiful, gorgeous.
01:32It didn't really occur to me that all that flirting and banter was actually, yeah, flirting
01:38and banter.
01:39Oh, yeah, because he'd walk into the staff room and say, hi, handsome.
01:43Yeah, I'd be looking behind me to see who handsome was.
01:47Who's he talking to?
01:50How old really is he, isn't he?
01:52I was just turning 21 and Phil was about 56.
01:56We've been together three years now.
01:59So Brendan's coming over today to talk about what he thinks about our relationship.
02:05My friend Brendan wasn't so sure about the age gap and how quickly things were moving.
02:11I'm apprehensive because I want him to like me and approve of me and Lenny.
02:16So Brendan, what did you think about mine and Phil's relationship at the start?
02:20At the start, it was definitely apprehensive.
02:26Especially with not meeting Phil before, you know, I guess you had told me before you were
02:31seeing Phil.
02:33And then with how quickly everything was moving.
02:37I think it was like not even a week later, you had rung me and told me that Phil was
02:40moving
02:40in with his son.
02:42Is it the right move for you?
02:44Mm-hm.
02:45I've got other children, yeah.
02:48I've got a son who's 15.
02:50He lives with us here.
02:51I think there's another thing why we work so well is because Lenny's been so amazing
02:56with him.
02:58Well, I appreciate your concern, but we're very good.
03:02Mm-hm.
03:03I think it just moved so fast because it just was the right thing to do and it kind of
03:08just…
03:08It had a mind of its own, didn't it?
03:10It wasn't fast for us though.
03:13It was quite comfortable.
03:15People talk online about having an age gap about like five to seven years and that being
03:21like a problem.
03:22I'm like, oh.
03:24Is it?
03:25It was like this trend going on about age gaps.
03:29I was like, okay, we're going to say it now.
03:32And yeah, that didn't make a lot of people happy.
03:35No.
03:36I always get quite rude comments.
03:38Girl, you look like a teenager.
03:40What is that old dude doing with you?
03:43Thank you for saying I look young.
03:46This entire situation cannot be serious.
03:49He met her at daycare.
03:51She was one of the kids.
03:52That's so savage.
03:54So he was 35 when you were born.
03:56That's weird, man.
03:57Are you looking for a father figure or something?
04:01Age red flag.
04:02Someone else said, there's no way that's true lol.
04:05And I said, don't know what to tell you, Shannon.
04:06These age gaps getting way out of control.
04:09Stop, her and grandpa are so cute together.
04:12If my dad came home with someone born in 2001, I'd cut him off.
04:19Get back out the door.
04:21Is he rich or just normal?
04:24So much potential wasted.
04:28Is he talking about you or me?
04:29Me.
04:31I get comments like, oh, I bet he's got money.
04:34I was like, if he had money, we wouldn't be living like this.
04:37Just wait till he's 80 and you're 45, then we'll see if it lasts.
04:41I think a lot of the comments end up getting flagged and deleted of them calling you a ****.
04:48That upset me.
04:49It's putting quite a nasty taint on things.
04:53Yeah.
04:54Like, I was a legal adult.
04:57I think we find the comments online funny more than anything.
05:03Like, for us, they seem absurd.
05:07We just can't take them seriously.
05:09Well, they don't really know us.
05:11No.
05:12They only see, like, what, like a 10-second video.
05:17People might judge, but they don't know.
05:19I didn't go looking for someone who was 24, 34 years younger than me.
05:25And you didn't go specifically looking for someone quite that old.
05:29What's brought us together is the fact that, you know, we get on so well and we love each other.
05:36As long as Phil treats you right, like, you know, that's all that I could ask for.
05:42You know, Phil treats me very good.
05:44Make sure I've always got everything I need and everything I want, which is nice.
05:49Just, like, tell people, like, do what you want.
05:52Like, it's your life.
05:53You don't know how long you're here for.
05:55Definitely my whole opinion changed after meeting him for the first time.
06:00It was, you know, it was good.
06:02Like, it felt comfortable.
06:04It felt like Lenny was definitely happy.
06:06You're definitely happy.
06:07And I guess it just eased some of the nerves that I had.
06:12How was bringing Dochi into the world?
06:14And how were people's reactions with everything in her?
06:18How old were you when you fell pregnant?
06:19Um, I was 23.
06:21Did it come as a shock to you guys when Lenny found out she was pregnant?
06:26Oh, well, we were really excited.
06:27It was, it was, um, we're both so happy.
06:30We have the baby.
06:31She's just over three months old now.
06:33Yeah.
06:34I didn't think we could have a baby, but.
06:36Yep.
06:36You're still working, so.
06:38Still working.
06:38Just more like the online judgement.
06:42Everyone's saying that Phil won't see her grow up.
06:44And I always think like, what, like five good years are better than 20 really bad years anyway.
06:51When I posted that the baby was here or like when I was pregnant, I got a lot of comments
06:55saying that,
06:56Oh, you won't see the baby grow up.
06:58The baby's going to have to go to school and tell everyone that her dad died because he was so
07:03old.
07:03Yeah.
07:04Yeah.
07:05I was like, it's a bit savage.
07:06Yeah.
07:07Whenever I get a comment talking about like, oh, like, you're not going to see her grow up,
07:12but like then my mum got dementia when I was like 18, 19, anyway, and I had to put her
07:16in a rest home.
07:17So like, you just never know.
07:19I don't know how old I live for, but the time I've grown, I'm going to make the most of
07:23it.
07:23And the time I have with Lenny and Donny, it's going to be, um, special.
07:28We've already got a really strong bond, you know, like she's already,
07:32she knows who I am.
07:34You know, she, I do a lot of the curing and feeding at night.
07:37So.
07:38Yeah.
07:38Phil does basically all the feeding at night.
07:40Cause I just don't wake up.
07:41No.
07:43See you later.
07:44Bye.
07:45Nice to meet you Phil.
07:46Nice to meet you.
07:47Family are all happy for us.
07:51Don't they?
07:52Yeah.
07:52So to our face anyway.
07:54I think now people don't see the age difference.
07:57They just see, um, you know, me and you and our baby.
08:01Great thing about Phil is just hardworking and loyalty and just helps make me happy when I'm sad.
08:10And he's always there.
08:11It's nice to have so much love around.
08:14These are the best days of my life.
08:16We met and love has just grown.
08:19People can like judge all they want.
08:21It doesn't really change anything.
08:23Yeah.
08:23In our relationship.
08:24Makes me really happy.
08:26Like when I can, um, you know, take care of these two, you know, they mean, they mean everything to
08:31me.
08:46You're right.
08:46I'm sorry you're on ailiar income.
08:47What do you feel like when I could find that?
08:47I hang out?
08:47God's eyes so sweet.
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