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Edi Rama: per l'Albania non c'è alternativa all'ingresso nell'UE

In una lunga intervista a Euronews, il primo ministro albanese Edi Rama ha affermato che per il suo Paese non esiste alternativa all’adesione all’UE. Ha anche messo in guardia dai rischi rappresentati dalle forze anti-UE e da "terzi attori" attivi nei Balcani occidentali.

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00:07Prime Minister Rama,
00:09thank you so much for being with us
00:10on Euronews in this summit.
00:12A few months ago you wrote an op-ed
00:14with the Serbian president
00:16Aleksandar Vojic in which you came up
00:19with some new concepts for enlargement.
00:21You said there's a way in which you can
00:22gradually enter the union, sit at the table
00:25not without the full package but be at that
00:27table willing to give up
00:28fundamental rights of a member state.
00:30What do you expect from the summit?
00:32I don't know.
00:34Apparently there is a written
00:36document on the table
00:38which is a French
00:40German document.
00:42You think they copied your idea?
00:44No, it's not about copying. First of all
00:46my idea was not
00:48something that came out
00:52like
00:52light in the sky because
00:55I
00:56I am in this
00:57in this job
00:58since some time now
00:59and I realized
01:01in the hard way sometimes that
01:05the
01:06old way
01:07will not work.
01:09So
01:09we need to find a different approach.
01:12But
01:13there is one
01:14one piece of the puzzle
01:16missing yet
01:17which I called
01:19Helmut Kohl
01:20piece of the puzzle
01:22meaning
01:23politics first
01:25and then
01:26the rest
01:27follows.
01:29We should sit on the table
01:31around the table
01:32right away
01:32and
01:33each one
01:34has to
01:35make
01:36its own
01:37work
01:37merit base.
01:38It's a normal thing
01:39around the table.
01:41So
01:41let me
01:42give you an example.
01:45Ursula von der Leyen
01:46who is our leader
01:48and
01:49who
01:49in the same time
01:50is the one
01:52that has
01:53reengaged
01:54Europe
01:54with enlargements.
01:56You think that is her credit?
01:58She has really reengaged
01:59that?
02:00Yeah because before her
02:01the previous one
02:02said there is no enlargement.
02:04So
02:05she has six kids
02:06so the kids
02:06are
02:07around the table
02:08and then
02:10they have to go
02:11through exams
02:12they have to go
02:13through school
02:14they have to go
02:14through this and that
02:15so
02:16it's not them
02:17deciding
02:18anything
02:19around the table
02:20but it's them
02:21staying on the table
02:21it's them participating
02:22in the family life.
02:25What
02:25what
02:26is missing here
02:27is exactly that.
02:29You cannot say
02:29to
02:30to the kids
02:31you have to stay
02:33somewhere
02:34in the neighborhood
02:35and when you are ready
02:36you will come
02:37in the family.
02:38No
02:38you are in the family
02:39and the family
02:41will help you
02:41be ready.
02:42So
02:42no
02:43no same
02:44but
02:45all together.
02:47and in specifics
02:48that means
02:48what
02:49that you get
02:49to participate
02:50in European councils
02:51access to single market
02:53gradually
02:53more business
02:54more money
02:54what does that mean?
02:55Yeah
02:55it means
02:56everything that is written
02:58but
02:59around the table
03:00not
03:01separated.
03:02So you're saying
03:03as
03:03Eddie Rama
03:04this no longer
03:05works for me
03:06a summit a year
03:07this no longer
03:07works for me.
03:08For me
03:09for me it works
03:10even without this
03:11because
03:12I represent
03:13Albania
03:15we are fanatics
03:16we are not
03:17like the others
03:18we are
03:19the fanatics
03:20of
03:21the EU
03:22faith
03:23there are no
03:24fanatics anymore
03:24around
03:25we are the fanatics
03:26so
03:26whatever it takes
03:28however it goes
03:29we remain
03:31rooted
03:32in the EU
03:33faith
03:33you understand?
03:34So for us
03:34there is no
03:36plan B
03:37there is no
03:37alternative
03:38there is nothing
03:39the point is
03:40how to make it
03:42work
03:42in a world
03:43that is not anymore
03:44the world
03:45of some years ago
03:48European Union
03:49need to be
03:51united
03:52united politically
03:53then the whole
03:55thing will follow
03:56and how
03:57all these mechanisms
03:58are good
03:59Are you
04:00willing
04:00or ultimately
04:01this is your goal
04:02to put in a date
04:03to put specific numbers
04:04because again
04:05for many
04:05this is completely vague
04:06what does this mean
04:07in terms of specifics
04:08what are deliverables
04:09that you walk out of here
04:10and you say to Albania
04:11as we accomplish something
04:12First of all
04:13what is to be
04:14to be saluted
04:15is that there is
04:17there is now
04:18a huge opening
04:18Okay
04:19So there is not anymore
04:20no no no
04:21it's open
04:22You perceive that
04:23Now
04:23of course
04:24it's very open
04:25and now
04:25it's about crafting it
04:27but
04:28the question is
04:29it will be crafted
04:30by them
04:32only
04:33and will be
04:34still out
04:35or not
04:36Let's take Serbia
04:38Aleksandr Vucic
04:39can tell to the Serbs
04:41I'll bring you
04:42to the EU
04:43The Serbs
04:44will say
04:45you are a stupid person
04:46because they don't want us
04:47If he tells to them
04:49I am not gonna
04:50bring you to the EU
04:52then
04:52a lot of complications
04:54start
04:54What I mean by that
04:56is that
04:57all around
04:58the Balkans
04:59there are forces
05:00and there are
05:01third actors
05:02that are interested
05:03to push the narrative
05:04it will never happen
05:05they will not take you in
05:07But the commission
05:08will say
05:08in the case of Serbia
05:09it's not happening
05:10because of actions
05:11and decisions
05:11taken by the government
05:12It's not external
05:14I took it as an example
05:15I am saying
05:17that
05:18look at Moldova
05:19you want Moldova?
05:20Okay
05:20Maya Sandow
05:21is telling the Moldovans
05:22come with me
05:23in Europe
05:24it's not happening
05:25The alternative is Russia
05:26She resisted
05:27two elections
05:28the third elections
05:29maybe she will not resist
05:30anymore
05:30because the Russians
05:31can say
05:32hey
05:32are you crazy?
05:34It will never happen
05:35So
05:35no
05:36look at Ukraine
05:37bring everyone
05:38around the table
05:39with
05:40with
05:41the status
05:41they have
05:43each
05:43in this situation
05:45candidates
05:46negotiating
05:47the process
05:48should be
05:49merit-based
05:50because it helps
05:50the countries
05:51to improve
05:52the merit-based process
05:53is not
05:53it's not just for Europe
05:55it's first and foremost
05:56for us
05:57going through
05:58the merit-based process
05:59we strengthen
06:00our institutions
06:00we build
06:02democratic states
06:03in countries
06:04that have missed it
06:05for a long time
06:06this is the drill
06:07and what is the risk
06:09you feel me?
06:10I feel you
06:10I feel you very much
06:11you're very energetic
06:12about this
06:13but what is the risk
06:15if this doesn't happen
06:16because we hear
06:17there is a security need
06:18what is the risk
06:19that there's violence
06:19again in the Balkans
06:20that there's interference
06:21from Russia
06:21what is the risk?
06:23listen
06:23it's not about
06:24what is the risk
06:24in terms of
06:25you talked about
06:26external forces
06:27you talked about
06:28a negative message
06:29what are the risks?
06:30it's not about
06:30the risk
06:31as something
06:32that will blow
06:32it's about
06:33the corrosion
06:35of the
06:36of the
06:38trust
06:39in you
06:39and
06:40the
06:43watering down
06:44of the faith
06:45in this family
06:46so it's
06:47it's something
06:49that needs
06:50to be addressed
06:51politically
06:51and
06:53it's very important
06:54for you
06:55to close
06:56to close
06:57the political border
06:58and say
07:00this is a family
07:01you have no
07:02you have no room
07:03here
07:03to spread lies
07:06and to fuel
07:07to fuel
07:08the hatred
07:08against you
07:09and to tell
07:10the people
07:11it will never happen
07:12because they don't
07:13want you
07:13and blah blah blah
07:14the counterpoint
07:15from EU citizens
07:16would be
07:17however
07:17we need to make sure
07:18that they are also ready
07:19to the extent
07:20that we need them
07:20and that means
07:21serious reforms
07:22on judiciary
07:22separation of powers
07:24freedom of the media
07:25nobody wants another Hungary
07:27that is the point
07:28nothing changes
07:30this is very clear
07:31nothing changes
07:32in that regard
07:33so
07:33you cannot
07:34have
07:35the final day
07:36of negotiations
07:37if you are not fit
07:38you cannot have
07:40the treaty
07:40if you are not fit
07:42you cannot have
07:43the approval
07:44of all the member states
07:45if you are not fit
07:46but until then
07:47you are around the table
07:48you are part of
07:49the European Union
07:50you understand
07:50and that would be called
07:52what
07:52associated membership
07:54close membership
07:55that would be called
07:55nothing
07:55that would be
07:56united European Union
07:58it is
07:59all together
08:00around the table
08:01the grandfather
08:02the grandmother
08:04the parents
08:05but how do you call that
08:05because you are not
08:06an EU country
08:07how would you call that
08:08you have to switch it
08:09we have
08:10to change this
08:11we have to become
08:13part of the European
08:14Union
08:16family
08:17now
08:18and then
08:19the rest will follow
08:20like the kids
08:22like the
08:24youngsters
08:25have to
08:26have to
08:27have to step by step
08:28become
08:29become a voice
08:30around the table
08:31have to have
08:32step by step
08:33part in the decision
08:35making of the family
08:36but until then
08:37they have to grow
08:38they have to make
08:39the exams
08:39they have to make
08:40everything
08:40are you encouraged
08:41by this Hungarian
08:42decision now
08:43on the cluster one
08:44this is very technical
08:45again
08:45but the symbol
08:47and the signal
08:48is that
08:48Ukraine will finally
08:50get moving
08:50Moldova will also
08:52get moving
08:52does it change
08:53that Peter Magyar
08:54is at the table
08:55I don't think
08:55this will be
08:56it's good
08:57but I don't think
08:58this will be enough
08:59for the Ukrainians
09:00it will never be enough
09:02I don't think
09:03it will be
09:05it will be
09:06for Moldova
09:07yes
09:07how do you interpret
09:08that in this paper
09:09from France and Berlin
09:10they refer to the Balkans
09:12and Moldova
09:12but not Ukraine
09:13is that the point
09:14that ultimately
09:15this country
09:15would be something else
09:17I don't know
09:17I think
09:19the best way
09:21the simplest way
09:22the sharpest
09:24and the boldest way
09:25is to say
09:26guys
09:26come around the table
09:28and we'll fix it
09:30step by step
09:31year by year
09:32for each and every
09:33one of you
09:33and in the meantime
09:34look at the paper
09:36you close the chapter
09:38you get something
09:39you close another chapter
09:40you get something
09:41but it's individual
09:42it's not all of you
09:44in the same time
09:45but all of you
09:46in the same time
09:46we're together
09:47because it's politics
09:48we are a political union
09:49we have to talk about
09:50what we do
09:52with our common defense
09:53we have to talk about
09:54what we do
09:55with our
09:56common foreign policy
09:57we have to talk
09:58about
09:58how we keep balance
10:01our democracy
10:02but that means
10:02full alignment
10:02with foreign policy
10:03with the EU
10:04Serbia for example
10:04is not applying sanctions
10:06that would be another issue
10:07again
10:09where is the difference
10:10why Serbia is today
10:11around the table
10:12because
10:13it is a candidate
10:14a country
10:15aiming to become part
10:16of the European Union
10:18so
10:18it will not
10:20be a mistake
10:21it will be
10:22a great
10:23advantage for both
10:24to have Serbia
10:25around the table
10:26all the way
10:27and then
10:27to tell Serbia
10:28around the table
10:29hey guys
10:30it's not good
10:31you have to align
10:32but for them
10:33it will be much
10:34easier to align
10:35if they will
10:37finally realize
10:39that they are
10:40part of the European Union
10:41and they have
10:42to grow up
10:44in the role
10:45and to be
10:46full
10:46fully endorsed
10:48by everything
10:49that has to do
10:50with the European Union
10:50the last time we spoke
10:51you also made a point
10:52very clear
10:52that was controversial
10:53you said to me
10:54this was a mistake
10:55that the EU
10:56is not talking
10:57and engaging directly
10:58with Russia
10:59we need to engage
11:00with this diplomacy
11:00now it's happening
11:02do you feel validated?
11:03where is it happening?
11:04well there is talk
11:04as you know now
11:05between the French
11:06Germany and the UK
11:07that there could be
11:08now a sort of
11:20is an eternity
11:21in war
11:23because in six months
11:24people continue
11:25to be killed
11:26but the Europeans
11:26have changed
11:27their mindset now
11:28they now openly
11:29talk about
11:30there needs to be
11:31a form of communication
11:32I hope
11:32I hope
11:33they start to talk
11:34with Russia
11:35because talking to each other
11:36they have never
11:37to talk about what
11:38however
11:39to start understanding
11:40each other
11:41how
11:43this war
11:43can be stopped
11:44in a way
11:46that does not
11:47some say that's a trap
11:48Russia is an enemy
11:49to the European Union
11:51in Europe
11:53listen I don't know
11:54what other name
11:55to put
11:55to a force
11:57that is killing people
11:59in another country
12:00every day
12:02it has not been an enemy
12:04it should not
12:06have become an enemy
12:07and in this
12:08there is a reflection
12:10to be made
12:10but nowadays
12:11it's an enemy
12:12and should change
12:14now
12:15talking to the enemy
12:17making peace
12:18working for peace
12:19every day
12:20is not about
12:21the other side
12:22it's not about
12:23how much the other side
12:25want peace
12:25it's not about
12:26how sincere
12:27is the other side
12:28it's not about
12:29if the other side
12:30is criminal
12:30or is not
12:32it is about
12:34who you are
12:34right
12:35so
12:36I believe
12:37that
12:38every democratic
12:39country
12:40every democratic
12:42soul
12:43should seek for peace
12:44no matter what
12:45I have to ask you
12:46of course
12:46about Albania
12:47because over the past
12:49days we've seen
12:50this protest
12:50on this real estate
12:51project that allegedly
12:52Jared Kushner
12:53and Ivanka Trump
12:54want to carry through
12:55are you looking at
12:56this protest
12:57are you taking into
12:58account the backlash
12:59what is actually
13:00happening
13:01Albania is
13:02in a hybrid war
13:04we are being
13:06assaulted
13:08I saw it
13:09I saw it
13:10through
13:10through media
13:12or through
13:13reading
13:14happening in other
13:15countries
13:16in other circumstances
13:17but now I'm seeing
13:18it in my country
13:19by who?
13:20different forces
13:21that
13:23brought
13:24in the day one
13:25when this war
13:26started
13:27this hybrid war
13:28started
13:29I'm not talking about
13:29the protest
13:30of war
13:30I'm talking about
13:31hybrid war
13:31because the protests
13:32are part of it
13:33but are part of it
13:35in a sense that
13:35who is engaged
13:37in this war
13:38is using
13:39the sentiments
13:40of some
13:40well-meaning people
13:42about environment
13:43so this is being
13:43weaponized
13:44as this real estate
13:45construction project
13:46is being weaponized
13:47big time
13:48not as real estate
13:49construction project
13:49it's weaponized
13:50by the enemies
13:51of Albania
13:54and of Israel
13:56because there is
13:58a narrative
13:58in the whole thing
14:00that this
14:01is about
14:02about a hidden deal
14:04between me
14:04and Bibi Netanyahu
14:06through Jared Kushner
14:07to bring the Palestinians
14:08in that part
14:09of Albania
14:11which is a total
14:12fantasy
14:13but guess what
14:14in this world
14:16of
14:16of
14:17manipulation
14:18through
14:19but also say
14:19some talk about
14:20the environment
14:20some talk about
14:21a massive island
14:22I'm telling you
14:23massive island
14:25it's about
14:28how
14:29how deeply
14:30the use
14:33of social media
14:34for pushing
14:36false narratives
14:37can touch
14:39the sentiment
14:40so
14:40in the first day
14:42imagine
14:44we saw
14:45five times
14:47more
14:48users
14:50than
14:51the number
14:52of users
14:53that
14:54are
14:55the usual ones
14:56in the Albanian
14:59social media
14:59are being agitated
15:01by forces online
15:02it's a lot
15:03of bots
15:03it's a lot
15:04of fake
15:05profiles
15:05it's a lot
15:06of attacks
15:07coming from
15:07all over
15:08now
15:08this is one
15:09narrative
15:09because Albania
15:11has a very proud
15:12history of saving
15:13the Jews
15:13Albania
15:14has a very proud
15:15position of never
15:16having had
15:16anti-Semitic
15:17sentiments
15:17and there are
15:19enemies of Albania
15:20they have names
15:21that want
15:23to fuel this
15:24among the Albanian
15:25Muslims
15:26that are
15:27incredibly
15:27tolerant
15:28that are
15:29amazingly
15:30pro-European
15:31that are
15:31citizens of
15:32Europe
15:32nothing to do
15:33with things
15:34this is one
15:34the other
15:35narrative
15:35that is
15:36mixed with
15:36that
15:37is
15:38the
15:39environment
15:39and
15:41there are
15:41studies
15:42very
15:43very much
15:43clear
15:44that how
15:45external forces
15:47have
15:48studies
15:49I mean
15:49not from Albania
15:50from Sweden
15:51from other
15:52countries
15:52in Europe
15:53how external
15:54forces
15:54hostile
15:55to Europe
15:56hostile
15:57to democracies
15:58hostile
15:58to
15:59the
16:01enlargement
16:01use
16:02environmental
16:03issues
16:04to fuel
16:05false narratives
16:06and to fuel
16:06protests
16:07so that's also
16:08being weaponized
16:08third is
16:10yes
16:10there is
16:11there is a
16:11real thing
16:12which is
16:13is there
16:14is there
16:15an expression
16:16of interest
16:17to have a
16:17project
16:18yes
16:18is there
16:19a project
16:20no
16:20there is
16:20no project
16:21yet
16:21the project
16:22is being
16:23worked
16:23by
16:24the
16:24investors
16:25we
16:26have
16:26to see
16:27when the
16:28project
16:28will be
16:28presented
16:29this is
16:29the reality
16:30but are
16:30you
16:31are you
16:31confident
16:31that you
16:32will get
16:32to a
16:33resolution
16:34that works
16:34first and foremost
16:36for the people
16:36of Albania
16:37there is no
16:37resolution
16:38to
16:38there is no
16:39resolution
16:39to get
16:40there is a
16:41there is a
16:41project
16:42to happen
16:42in terms
16:43of first
16:44being
16:45designed
16:45being
16:47presented
16:48being
16:50scrutinized
16:50and approved
16:51and then
16:52there is a
16:53project to be
16:53built
16:53there is no
16:54resolution
16:55so if it works
16:56it goes ahead
16:56if it doesn't
16:57fit
16:57purpose
16:57it will not
16:58go ahead
16:58but there is
16:59no chance
16:59that the
17:00progress in
17:00Albania
17:01and the
17:02projects in
17:02Albania
17:02will be
17:03defined
17:03by street
17:04protests
17:04this is
17:04this will
17:05never happen
17:06not under
17:07my watch
17:07because that
17:08would mean
17:09what
17:09that would
17:09mean
17:10we have
17:11to discuss
17:11about reality
17:12not about
17:13fake reality
17:14if we have
17:16to discuss
17:16about a
17:16project
17:17yes
17:18we have to
17:18discuss
17:18about a
17:19project
17:19everyone
17:20is welcome
17:20to discuss
17:21about a
17:21project
17:22but not
17:22about
17:23fantasies
17:23about
17:24projects
17:24that do
17:25not
17:25exist
17:25yet
17:26or about
17:26projects
17:27that are
17:27presented
17:28in the
17:29social media
17:30by being
17:31engineered
17:32by the
17:33someone in love
17:34person
17:35there are
17:36a lot
17:36of
17:36images
17:37that have
17:38been
17:38spread
17:39in the
17:40social
17:40media
17:40of
17:42projects
17:43that are
17:43not
17:44related
17:45to the
17:46project
17:46of
17:47dying
17:48flamingos
17:49of
17:50depressed
17:51turtles
17:52and of
17:53all this
17:53it doesn't
17:54exist
17:54so we have
17:55to talk
17:56about reality
17:56when the
17:57project
17:57will be
17:58presented
17:58of course
17:59we'll show
18:00it
18:00and we'll
18:00show it
18:00proudly
18:01and I'm
18:01sure
18:02it'll be
18:02a project
18:02that will
18:03change
18:04a lot
18:05in how
18:05Europe
18:06understands
18:09environments
18:10in general
18:11because
18:11this is the
18:12aim
18:12it's not
18:12the aim
18:13to take
18:13a piece
18:14of land
18:14to do
18:15speculation
18:15the aim
18:16is to
18:19build
18:21the most
18:22exclusive
18:23and the
18:24most
18:24environmentally
18:26precious
18:27destination
18:28but some
18:28people take
18:28issue
18:29with the
18:29exclusive
18:29too
18:30why
18:31because
18:31it becomes
18:32an elite
18:32on land
18:34that belongs
18:34to the
18:35Albanian people
18:35the land
18:37belongs to
18:38the investors
18:39they have
18:39bought it
18:40from the
18:40privates
18:41and that's
18:42part of
18:42the issue
18:43number one
18:44number two
18:45we are not
18:45anymore
18:47in the
18:48bunker of
18:48Enver Hoxha
18:49isolated from
18:50the world
18:50we are part
18:51of the world
18:51number three
18:52exactly because
18:53this is
18:54investments
18:55come
18:55countries
18:56change
18:56because
18:57one euro
18:58it's not
18:58me saying
18:59one euro
19:00that enters
19:01in this
19:01exclusive
19:03it's
19:03it's
19:041.5
19:05to 2 euros
19:06that enter
19:07in
19:08the inclusive
19:09so
19:09in the country
19:10in the community
19:11and when
19:12I said
19:13exclusive
19:13I said
19:13exclusive
19:14in terms
19:14of
19:15architecture
19:17top
19:18architects
19:18among
19:18the best
19:19in the world
19:19are engaged
19:20about
19:21landscaping
19:22top
19:22landscape
19:24architects
19:24are engaged
19:25top
19:25engineers
19:26are engaged
19:26so
19:27it's not
19:27about
19:28doing
19:28something
19:29disruptive
19:29with nature
19:30it's about
19:30creating
19:32a role
19:33model
19:34for how
19:34you develop
19:35and how
19:36you make
19:37nature
19:38better
19:39by bringing
19:40people
19:40in the nature
19:41well
19:42prime minister
19:42on that note
19:43thank you so much
19:43for your time
19:44and thank you
19:44for joining us
19:45on euro news
19:59I'll see you next
19:59I'll see you next
19:59time
19:59Grazie.
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