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00:00But, Jada, doing this 14 years, you must have had down the road some, like, miserable experiences.
00:04I've had some crazy ones.
00:06I mean, let's talk about milk enemas with Jason.
00:09I was just about to say.
00:10So they would fry eggs with this milk?
00:12So you would, like, put milk in your asshole and then put it into a frying pan.
00:18Well, it's not always white milk when it comes out.
00:23Yeah.
00:23Sometimes it's chocolate.
00:24Or it might come out later.
00:26Like, I was done with the scene, right?
00:27And I'm pumping gas.
00:28I have little short jean shorts on.
00:30I love you.
00:30And I'm like, oh, my God.
00:31Am I going to fart?
00:32Like, what's going on?
00:33Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Pillow Talk.
00:42I can't sing, but welcome to the show, babies.
00:45Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to your favorite podcast.
00:47This is Pillow Talk.
00:47I'm your host, Ryan Pownall.
00:49Big one today for the number one adult show in the world.
00:52Back on the show from one of our most legendary episodes, back in the day with Bob Menary.
00:56Yes, we scared the fuck out of Bob.
00:58What a show.
01:00And he lives in Vegas now.
01:01Lives in Vegas now.
01:02Yeah.
01:02Big Red Rock guy.
01:03Yeah.
01:04Good guy, but better girl.
01:06Better girl.
01:07We love her.
01:07Phoenix Marie.
01:09One of the goats, one of the icons, one of the legends.
01:12Still going.
01:12Still going.
01:13Still going.
01:14Doesn't want to put the cleats down.
01:16No.
01:16Well, the cleats, like, everyone said, all my guy friends are like, the minute you get married,
01:22the minute, like, you quit porn, like, there needs to be an announcement, an award show,
01:27something that, like, everything gets hung up.
01:31Of Phoenix Marie Hall of Fame.
01:32Yeah.
01:32Yes, I agree.
01:33Fucking right.
01:33And the first person I didn't actually introduce in that Hall of Fame, if I had my own, would
01:38be my bestie.
01:40Like, my wifey, which would be Miss Jada Stevens.
01:43Jada Stevens.
01:45The bestie, the wifey.
01:46The bestie and wifey.
01:47You guys are best friends.
01:48Yes, we are.
01:49You know, I saw you guys on Netflix recently.
01:52Yeah.
01:52What is that?
01:53I was watching the Chris Rock thing, and I saw both your names pop up.
01:58Both were like, what?
01:59It's both of you, right?
02:00Yeah.
02:01Am I crazy?
02:02No.
02:02So, it was really cool.
02:05Chris Rock did the tambourine tour, and he's a big fan of porn.
02:10Is he a big porn guy?
02:11Yeah.
02:11Well, me, for sure.
02:13Big F.S.
02:13for me guy.
02:15Big Jada Stevens guy.
02:17And we, I actually took my mom, my dad, and my brother to go see him out in Palm Springs,
02:22and then he's like, look, my first family photo, I get to meet the parents, and I'm like,
02:26oh my God, Chris, stop, like, I'm all red, and then we just happened to be in Jersey,
02:31and he goes, I'm actually shooting the Netflix series, would you and Jada like to go?
02:36And I was like, who's going to say no to that?
02:39Yeah, sec.
02:39So, we had a whole Brooklyn-like adventure.
02:42We got to go to the show.
02:43We got to see it live, and...
02:45Okay, skip to the good part.
02:46Did you guys fuck?
02:47No, but it was crazy because when we left, when we left, everybody's like, yo, love your
02:54work, love your work.
02:55And it's a room full of fucking, like, big-ass legends and brothers, and like, I'm just looking
03:05out of here, and I'm like, oh my God, Jada, let's go eat, let's go eat, I'm hungry.
03:08Yeah, we love to eat.
03:10You know what?
03:10Porn stars are the celebrities to the celebrities.
03:13Yeah.
03:13Yeah.
03:13That's a fact.
03:14Whether they want to say it or not, they are.
03:16They're at home, jerking off like crazy, and they obsess over you girls.
03:20Yeah.
03:20And then they finally get to meet you.
03:22Mm-hmm.
03:23They're more excited to meet you than you are to meet them.
03:25Yeah.
03:26That's a fact.
03:26Lexus, they won't ever admit it out in public to anyone else.
03:30But to you girls, they're, oh, this video, baby.
03:33They'll say whatever.
03:34Oh.
03:34Yeah.
03:34They'll send me fucking airtight photos of me with like three big old fucking BBCs in
03:39my mouth, my ass, and my pussy, and be like, no, we're straight.
03:43And like, I'm like, aren't you like supposed to be like godly, higher level?
03:47Like, when the fuck did that happen?
03:49They're the worst one.
03:50I'm like, bro.
03:51But Jada, I take from you that you've been hit up by every celebrity, but you've ghosted them
03:54all.
03:55I've definitely made my hit list.
03:57Oh, you made your hit list?
03:58I've already completed my hit list.
04:00Okay.
04:01We like to name names here.
04:02It's a safe place.
04:03I hate these names.
04:04These names are good.
04:05I mean, I'm, it's a fun game.
04:08It is a fun game.
04:08I've had a lot of, there's a lot.
04:10I don't want to go over it.
04:11Let's give a top three.
04:13Top three.
04:14Star power.
04:16I fucking hate you.
04:18I, I, you know, and later we can bleep it out if you want.
04:21Yeah, if you want.
04:22And I, and like, I even said like my guy, but unfortunately Bob was actually mentoring
04:28him or like, he's part of his like new thing.
04:31Remember when I said Brian?
04:32Oh yeah.
04:32Yeah.
04:33And he's like, no, no.
04:35He's one of my guys.
04:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.
04:37Urlacher.
04:37Yes.
04:38Urlacher.
04:38I mean, okay.
04:39Just to be fun with it.
04:40Top, top three.
04:42Trey songs was Khalifa and Ike Taylor.
04:45Oh, wow.
04:47The black boys.
04:48The black boys.
04:49Okay.
04:49So we're done.
04:53Well, are you going to show me something different?
04:55Can you show me a good time?
04:57I don't know if I can show you much different than Ike Taylor's dick.
05:00I don't even know Ike Taylor's dick looks like, how do you?
05:03I know.
05:03I think that you're underestimating yourself.
05:06Well, your friend did have a good time.
05:07Like, I love, I love black penis, but you know, there's some good ones in between.
05:13Wow.
05:13Jada.
05:14There you go.
05:15Good to hear.
05:15Are you getting right over there, Ryan?
05:16A little bit.
05:17A little hard over here.
05:18You know, let me do a little, like, sack check.
05:21Yeah.
05:22I have been taking my vitamins.
05:23Okay.
05:24I'll sit here and wait while you do the sack check if you'd like.
05:27I mean, Ryan lets other people take their clothes off.
05:30It's about time.
05:31I'll whip it out.
05:33Okay.
05:33You want to see my dick?
05:34Sure.
05:34I'm with it.
05:34I love it.
05:35Let me see if it's in a good state because there's a lot of different softies I have.
05:38I'm not looking.
05:39There's like 11 different.
05:40Okay.
05:41Let's see.
05:41I love it.
05:42He's ready to whip it out.
05:43I fucking love it.
05:44Okay.
05:45Can I just look out?
05:46No, it's Ryan in a good state.
05:49I'm dehydrated.
05:50I'm tired.
05:50No, that's it.
05:51You've been nervous all day long.
05:52I haven't worked out today.
05:53I haven't taken a dick pill in a week.
05:55I'm pretty sure I can make it work.
05:57I'm sure you can make it work.
05:58Baby girl.
06:00So, Jada, the pornography, you did it 17 years, is it?
06:03No.
06:04I'm 17.
06:05About 14 years, yeah.
06:06Oh, you're 17.
06:07Yeah.
06:07Let me see.
06:08I got the number somewhere.
06:0914 years.
06:10How many scenes is that?
06:11Probably like 400 scenes.
06:14Three to 400 scenes.
06:14Whoa, that seems low.
06:16It's actually a lot.
06:17She's selective.
06:18Okay.
06:19But it's actually a lot.
06:20Like, that's a lot of mainstream scenes.
06:22Like.
06:22400?
06:23Yeah.
06:23There's girls are not.
06:25Now, like, girls don't do that many mainstream scenes.
06:27True.
06:28Okay.
06:28You know?
06:28Because they'd be fucking for the Olaf.
06:30Yeah.
06:30But, I mean, we put in work for mainstream companies, and that's a lot of titles.
06:34Maybe it could be more than that.
06:35I might be, like, low volume.
06:36I'm going to give you more.
06:37I'm going to put you more, like, the six.
06:40I'm just thinking, like, I've got 275 on browsers alone.
06:45And I'm at 150 on Naughty.
06:47I'm at 123 on Bang.
06:51So, you think about those, like, Bang girl scenes.
06:53I mean, still, I would say, like, 400.
06:55And you last year you came back a little bit.
06:56And they're quality, good scenes.
06:58Yeah.
06:58You know what I mean?
06:59Like.
06:59Well, Jada, every time I see you, which always pops up, you're a big pop-up on the home feed
07:03of the hub girl for me.
07:04I wonder what you are doing.
07:05Well, because I'm a booty guy.
07:07I'm a booty.
07:07Yeah.
07:07Yeah.
07:08I'm all booty.
07:09I love it.
07:10You know, your friend.
07:12You.
07:12Yeah.
07:13You know.
07:13Oh, just you.
07:15You're a titty girl.
07:17I'm not a titty girl.
07:18What are you?
07:19I'm.
07:20You know what's fucked up?
07:21Is I never get voted for tits or ass.
07:24They just put me in a porn star category.
07:26And I was like, the fuck is this?
07:28Like, I've got all of it.
07:30So.
07:30Because you're the overall porn star.
07:32But, like, we're not.
07:33This is my face.
07:34Yeah.
07:35My ass is my face.
07:36Your face is gorgeous.
07:37So, fuck that.
07:38But this is literally my face.
07:39She got me everywhere.
07:40I need to go.
07:42Right.
07:42Like, you're in the category.
07:43My asshole got me everywhere.
07:45You're in the conversation of best basketball player.
07:47She's like best point guard.
07:49Okay.
07:49You know what I mean?
07:50Yeah.
07:50Which is great.
07:51She's cool.
07:52Because you're the best point guard.
07:52It's fine.
07:53Does Jada have the best ass ever in porn?
07:55Yes.
07:56Yes.
07:57You do.
07:57Of all time.
07:58Yeah.
07:58You do.
07:59There's nice asses.
08:00But mine is of all time through the whole time and still to this day.
08:03The greatest ass of all time.
08:05Yeah.
08:05Good for you.
08:06Yeah.
08:06And it's still thick and dry.
08:07It's delicious.
08:08Yeah.
08:08And you got to see some photos out of our private album that we share with each other.
08:12Great photos.
08:13Great photos.
08:14The album's like fire.
08:15And you would take anal.
08:17Mm-hmm.
08:18Okay.
08:18Because you know what?
08:19I have a problem with girls with the big booties that, oh, I don't do anal though.
08:23I wonder who that you're talking about.
08:24You know?
08:25Oh, I thought you said we named names here.
08:27Oh.
08:28You can bleep it out later.
08:30Okay.
08:30We'll leave it.
08:31Okay.
08:31Lexus, Texas.
08:32There you go.
08:33I knew you were going to say it.
08:34You know, it's like, hey, do it.
08:36You know, if God gave me a Dread dick, I'd fuck with it.
08:41If God gave me a big ass, I'd do it.
08:42She did one.
08:43Oh, no.
08:43She did only one.
08:45I don't think you ever.
08:46No, she did one.
08:47She did one.
08:48No, she didn't do Dread in the ass.
08:49No, that's a crazy one.
08:51Oh, God.
08:52She did.
08:53He's like, I watched it.
08:54She did it.
08:55Did you?
08:56How's it up right now?
08:57Did you tell us I was brought out as a wife?
08:58No, no, no, no.
08:59It probably isn't.
09:00No, no, no.
09:01So I don't think it's out yet.
09:02She didn't do Dread in the ass.
09:03She didn't do Dread.
09:03It is out.
09:04So she did two scenes with Dread.
09:06Oh.
09:07So her first one was vaginal.
09:09Right.
09:09Okay.
09:09So I wouldn't be surprised if her second one was anal.
09:12There we go.
09:12Yeah, but she did one mainstream anal.
09:14But it's not out.
09:16And it was her elegant angel and it was her husband.
09:20Yeah.
09:20Okay.
09:20Her husband.
09:21That doesn't count.
09:23That doesn't count.
09:23Let me say this though.
09:25Whether you like anal or not, you have an obligation to the adult film world to take
09:30it up the butt.
09:31Yeah.
09:31Especially when you have a nice ass.
09:33Exactly.
09:34You know, if you want to have a flat blackboard on your booty and have a nice pair of tits,
09:38cool.
09:38Stick it in your vagina.
09:39Give some blowjobs.
09:40Titty fuck.
09:40All good.
09:41Right.
09:41Booty queen, anal.
09:43I agree.
09:44I mean, I'm an anal chick.
09:45Like 95% of my scenes are all anal.
09:48I never did a little bit of vag.
09:50Good for you.
09:51Isn't it nice when you ask them?
09:53I kept it from my pussy.
09:54You're almost a virgin, really.
09:55Yeah, literally.
09:56That's how I looked at it.
09:57I keep my pussy from my private life.
09:59And a lot of scenes though, when I'd be scrolling on the hub, it was always like you and another
10:02girl and a dude.
10:03Yeah.
10:03Like BGG queen.
10:05Mm-hmm.
10:05They loved that.
10:06But I'm like definitely a one-on-one type of girl.
10:09Okay.
10:10I was wondering, like how bisexual are you?
10:12I love certain girls.
10:14She loves certain girls.
10:14I love girls that love girls, not girls that like, I love girls, you know?
10:20No, it's this.
10:21There's two types of bisexuals these days.
10:23Yeah.
10:23Yeah.
10:24It's the fingers like this.
10:25Yeah, I don't like that.
10:26Oh, you can tell?
10:27Yeah.
10:27Okay, how can you tell?
10:28You better put your face in my shit.
10:30Yeah, number one is if they're doing this to your clit and they're like this.
10:33She's straight.
10:35Yeah, or it stinks.
10:36She's gay for pay.
10:37Yeah, if their vaginas reek, you know that they've never had another girl down there before.
10:41Gay for pay.
10:42Yeah, gay for pay.
10:43And then the real dykos.
10:45I make them pay.
10:46They get in there.
10:47Literally make them fucking pay.
10:48Yeah.
10:49And you are, you're a full lesbo.
10:51And you are too.
10:52Like, could you marry a woman?
10:54No.
10:54Could you?
10:56You like dick too much.
10:57I love dick.
10:58I love dick.
10:58I love girls, but I love dick.
11:01Yeah.
11:01After that, I need dick.
11:02I definitely have a side piece involved.
11:04Okay.
11:04I'm very, like, open that way.
11:06Like, you get married, you bring in girls for threesomes.
11:08Yeah.
11:09If you act right.
11:10Yeah, exactly.
11:11If you act right and you build the fuck up.
11:13If he brings along the Benjamins, he's nice to you.
11:15Yeah.
11:15You're taking care of me and my ways, then absolutely.
11:18Yeah.
11:18Fair enough.
11:19I agree.
11:19Fair enough.
11:20And how do we feel about dudes now?
11:22Because when you guys started porn 14, 17 years ago, it was like porn stars.
11:26You know, there was Johnny Manuel, Nick Blue.
11:29There was like Nacho Vidal, Rocco Sufretti.
11:32You know, Jules Jordan.
11:33Jules Jordan was even a performer.
11:35Those guys.
11:36And now every dude with a camera and a dick is a porn star.
11:39They're not a porn star.
11:41Okay.
11:41They're not porn stars.
11:42No, they're not.
11:43They're just kids that are horny fucking perks.
11:45Yes.
11:45Yes.
11:45It's an excuse to fuck porn stars.
11:48Same.
11:48And do it.
11:49So the girl gets paid and there's a camera and then she didn't cheat on her boyfriend.
11:55And, and.
11:56Because it's content.
11:57Exactly.
11:58Right.
11:58So it's all a big fugazi.
11:59Yeah.
11:59Big fugazi.
12:00Right.
12:01I like the Italian part.
12:02Big fugazi.
12:04And funny enough, these dudes don't even make money as much from their scenes with porn stars.
12:09They never do.
12:10No.
12:10They only get paid for the gay shit.
12:12Yeah.
12:12So they're really just out here fucking.
12:14Jerking off.
12:16Showing my ass.
12:16That's where the money's at.
12:18Yeah.
12:18And that's cool.
12:19Go do that.
12:20But, but like DMing you a thousand times to fuck you is just because he wants to fuck
12:24you.
12:24Yeah.
12:25We agree.
12:25Yeah.
12:26A hundred percent.
12:27A hundred percent.
12:27Just had to get off my chest.
12:28Well, not just that, but then that goes into the next generation of porn girls.
12:33We call them porn girls.
12:35They're not porn stars.
12:36I'm sorry.
12:37How many box covers have you been on?
12:39Oh, I'm sorry.
12:39You're an OnlyFans girl.
12:41So you've never been in a box cover your entire life.
12:44Yeah.
12:44Go sit down in the corner because all you do is you fuck at home and you're lazy.
12:47So star needs to be earned.
12:50Earned.
12:51Absolutely.
12:52And it's like, I still give them credit for the hustle because we didn't have this back
12:56in the day.
12:57That's fine.
12:57But you're not a porn star.
12:58You're not a porn star.
12:59Right, right, right.
13:00You girls are porn stars.
13:01Yes.
13:02You're stars.
13:03Chris Rock jerks off to your porn stars.
13:04Yes.
13:05Yeah.
13:05On DVD.
13:06Plus many, many more.
13:07Yes.
13:07Many, many more that Jada will not name and I will not.
13:11But Jada, doing this 14 years, you must have had down the road some like miserable experiences.
13:15I've had some crazy ones.
13:17Let's talk about those stories.
13:19We always love those.
13:20They always go viral for the pillow talkers.
13:22You should have given me like, which one?
13:23I was like, shit, you want to help me out with which ones are the craziest?
13:26I mean, let's talk about milk enemas with Jason.
13:29I was just about to say.
13:30Milk enemas with Jason.
13:30Milk enemas with Jason.
13:32Guard for life?
13:33No, Jason is a director for Evil Angel.
13:36Okay.
13:36And he was known for doing the most hardcore scenes for girls when it came to anal.
13:42So like for me and Dana DeArmond, Dana DeArmond put cat toys in my asshole or in like a little
13:48ball and it had like a little jiggle jingle and then like cat toys.
13:50Yeah, and then I'd shoot it out and like she was dressed as a cat and then she'd go and
13:55chase it and pot and then put it in her mouth and then shove it back in my asshole.
13:59So there was also the other side, which is the milk enemas.
14:03So they would fry eggs with this milk.
14:05So you would like put milk in your asshole and then put it into a frying pan.
14:11Well, there are certain things that can happen when you're playing with a lot of fluids.
14:16It's not always white milk when it comes out.
14:20Yeah.
14:20Sometimes it's chocolate.
14:21It might come out later.
14:23Like I was done with the scene, right?
14:24And I'm pumping gas.
14:25I have little short jean shorts on.
14:27I love you.
14:27And I'm like, oh my God, am I going to fart?
14:29Like what's going on?
14:30Like what's going on?
14:31And I'm like squeezing my legs, pumping the gas.
14:33The milk shoots out everywhere.
14:35This lady next to me in the gas pump is like shoots out.
14:38Mind you, I'm on the car like this.
14:39And it shoots out.
14:40And the lady next to me is like mortified.
14:42She's like, what the fuck did I just see?
14:44Oh my God.
14:45But yeah, it's like that was like two hours after the scene.
14:48I was cashing my check.
14:51And that like legitimately.
14:53Just crazy shit.
14:55That's porn star shit.
14:56Yes, literally.
14:57Right.
14:57It's like we've done like me and my toothpaste story.
15:00We had that discussion.
15:01Yeah, the toupee.
15:02No, toothpaste.
15:04They said toupee.
15:05No, toothpaste.
15:07I don't know the toothpaste story.
15:08Oh, well, Jay, like me, we put, you know, Aquafresh has three stripes.
15:13Yeah.
15:13So it's three stripes or toothpaste.
15:17He squeezed it in my asshole and then I pushed it out and it not even streaking.
15:23Like it was perfect.
15:24Three stripes in, three stripes out.
15:26And then he had three other girls then brush their teeth and pry up in my asshole and they
15:31were digging in and brushing their teeth out of my asshole, spitting back in it.
15:35Jesus Christ, Phoenix.
15:36It's called pretty sloppy.
15:37Number two.
15:38Number two.
15:39Number two.
15:40They needed more of that.
15:41Yeah.
15:41Let me ask you this.
15:42Okay.
15:43Is it the sicko directors that are like, let's fucking do the toothpaste thing?
15:47Or are people like emailing them and being like, there are definitely emails.
15:51We want toothpaste in Phoenix's ass ASAP, bro.
15:53It's definitely a niche, you know, but it's pretty crazy because they really go overseas
15:58to do a lot of these.
15:59So that just shows you it's usually overseas.
16:01It's the sickos in Europe.
16:02Yes.
16:02Yeah.
16:02They're freaky.
16:03They love me.
16:04Beyond freaky.
16:05I'm like vanilla compared to that.
16:06But yeah, like I'm a regular freak.
16:08I just love like anal sex.
16:10I love doggy, mish.
16:12But you must have shoved a bunch of different things up your ass.
16:14Yeah.
16:15Like a hundred.
16:15I've literally gotten golf balls stuck up my ass.
16:17Golf balls?
16:18Pink ones.
16:19Yes.
16:19Pink golf balls.
16:19Jason, again.
16:21Yeah, exactly.
16:22Dude, this guy Jason used to be put on the stand.
16:25I have stories for days with that.
16:27I know.
16:28He's like, here you go.
16:29Like in order to work with him, he'll actually ask you to like be at home.
16:33And this is before like the internet really, really happened would be, hey, put a golf
16:38ball in your asshole and shoot it out.
16:40Okay, now I'll shoot you.
16:42And then he'd shoot the girl.
16:43Yeah.
16:43It's a qualification.
16:44He's going to make sure you could do it.
16:45I literally put one up there.
16:46I was like, oh, maybe if I put another one, it'll come out.
16:48You know what I mean?
16:49Put another one up there.
16:50And I'm like, oh, they're not coming out.
16:51There's no strings attached by the way they're not coming out.
16:54Remember when Christina got it stuck?
16:56She had to go to the ER.
16:57Yeah.
16:57Bro, Lindell.
16:58Yeah.
16:59Lindell and Jason got those out.
17:00Yeah.
17:01Like it's just crazy.
17:02Literally, they had to take like tongs.
17:04What if it happened to missionary sex?
17:05Are we not doing that anymore?
17:06I love missionary sex.
17:08I love it too.
17:09I come the best.
17:10In missionary and spoon.
17:11Those are like mine.
17:12Okay.
17:12Best way to make you come, Jada?
17:14Like, mish for sure.
17:15Because I love like just the whole like eye contact.
17:18The sensual dirty talking.
17:20And it rubs my clit.
17:21But I also love spoon.
17:22I'm a lazy fucker sometimes.
17:23So just slide it in.
17:24I love it from spoon.
17:25I just, it's the way that I guess my pussy is.
17:28It's the position.
17:29Okay.
17:30And I don't know.
17:30It's just something I love.
17:31Like, we don't get to do that on.
17:32And if it's a straighter dick, it's going to hit your G-spot.
17:33We don't get to do that in scenes.
17:34So I love it.
17:34I feel like to spoon sex you, I need like a 14-inch dick just to reach around your ass.
17:38I mean, I love shmedium.
17:40Shmedium's good.
17:41It's like, literally like, you can get away with five and six inches.
17:44Yeah.
17:44Baby girl.
17:46Oh, shmedium?
17:47That's bad.
17:47That's me, yo.
17:48That's the boyfriend dick.
17:50That's what, you can go any hole.
17:52Any hole.
17:52Any time.
17:53Any hole.
17:54That's what she means.
17:55It's like, oh.
17:56I love that.
17:57Look.
17:59Dread is good maybe to look at, but that's what, like, if it was in personal life, we wouldn't
18:03be fucking that.
18:03Yeah, Dread's dick should be chopped off and just put as like a trophy.
18:06Yo, that's, if I felt him, if I, look, if I wasn't a porn star and I felt his dick
18:11in the club, I'll be like, oh no.
18:12So you girls do that?
18:13You give little check tops?
18:14I'm a sack checker.
18:15I've done it forever.
18:16Do girls do that to me?
18:18I do it.
18:18I could have got a lot of sexual harassment things.
18:21So now I sit here and think about it.
18:22Yeah, that's got to be a legal.
18:23What if we're a pussy check in your girls?
18:25Well, that's just what I do.
18:26If y'all would have did it, you could have did it.
18:27But I think about that.
18:29I'm like, damn, I could have had a lot of sex.
18:30So how do you do it?
18:31Okay, we were talking at the bar.
18:32You're like, this guy's cool.
18:33Let's have a drink or whatever.
18:34You know, of course I'm going to be playful before I do it, but I'm definitely going to,
18:38like, I almost tried to do it to you when you shook my hand.
18:40You almost tried to do it to me?
18:41Yeah, when you tried to pull it out for me, I almost sack checked.
18:44I definitely sack checked Charleston.
18:46Did you?
18:47Yeah.
18:51I mean, it wasn't too excited yet, but I feel like it could be a grower, you know?
18:55Okay.
18:57What do we prefer, growers or showers?
18:59I like a grower.
19:00Like, I think that, you know, as long as you can get it there.
19:04Phoenix, you're a size queen, aren't you?
19:05I am.
19:06You like your big cocks.
19:07I have a big dick.
19:08It's fine.
19:08Yeah.
19:09I know.
19:10Are you fucking off camera these days?
19:12Both of you.
19:12No, not lately.
19:14Not lately?
19:15No.
19:15I'm just so selective.
19:17I'm so picky with my pussy.
19:18So picky with your pussy.
19:20What city are we in?
19:21Vegas, baby.
19:22Sin City.
19:23You live in Vegas?
19:24I live in LA.
19:25Oh.
19:26Yeah.
19:27Do you live in LA?
19:28I do.
19:28Oh.
19:30Kids back, boys.
19:31Kids back.
19:33Oh, man.
19:35You'll have a cute little fuckboy influencer kid that comes over and-
19:39Not right now, no.
19:40Plays with their booty, no?
19:41No.
19:41I would love that.
19:42I would love one.
19:43Right?
19:43We both are like-
19:47Okay.
19:47And how often are we shooting at-home content, OF stuff?
19:50Are you mixing it up?
19:51Are you getting guys like Damon Dice?
19:54No.
19:55Where is he at?
19:56Right?
19:56He's right out.
19:58He's like-
19:59I would love to, though.
20:00So I literally, like I said, just started back shooting Boy Girl.
20:03So I would love to have, like, porn star guys.
20:07Porn star guys back in the mix.
20:08Yeah.
20:08Okay.
20:09You're home.
20:10Let me tell you, by the way, girls, when you're doing OF content, enough with the tripod.
20:16I pay people-
20:17Yes.
20:17To actually shoot my shit.
20:19There you go.
20:20I invest the money.
20:21I'm like, no, no, no.
20:22You're going to come with me because they want to see the exact same thing they saw on an
20:26Evil Angel movie.
20:28Yes.
20:28They want the gaping asshole.
20:29They want it POV style.
20:31Yes.
20:32And whatever male talent I get, I'm paying you to do the same shit.
20:35Yes.
20:35Or-
20:36Or seeing the tears.
20:37Well, for male talent, you actually give them a check?
20:39Like, some of them.
20:40Yeah.
20:41Sometimes.
20:41Like, Mick Bulu doesn't do, like, furry content shoots.
20:44Okay, so-
20:45But he's amazing with anal.
20:46And if I tell Mick, like, hey, listen, I want a red light fucking district scene, he knows
20:51how to make, like, the tears come out of my eyes and the spit coat your face.
20:55How does he do that?
20:57It's a certain way you hit the back of the throat.
21:00During a blowjob?
21:01Yeah, during a blowjob.
21:02He knows how to hit that.
21:03Yeah.
21:03So it's about putting your head back and then you just have to hit it and it's
21:07like a fucking gusher.
21:08And he does the thing with his legs like this.
21:10Yeah.
21:11And then he does exactly.
21:12Yeah, I know that move.
21:14He's pretty good at the move.
21:15And he goes, he goes-
21:18Or what about before he comes?
21:19He doesn't actually like deep throating.
21:20Oh, he does it for the-
21:22He doesn't like girls.
21:22So that's another thing is, a lot of these guys, so it's really funny with the bigger
21:26dicks, we'll tell the girls, please don't deep throw me, you're going to hurt me.
21:31And, like, Lex had-
21:32What a problem to have.
21:33No, Lex and Manuel have scars on their dicks from girls, like, canine tees.
21:39Oh, my God.
21:39Fucking, like, cutting them.
21:41Mid-scene.
21:42So luckily I have, like, the biggest mouth.
21:44I'm like, I've never had a problem with that.
21:46But I've, like, seen Lex's, like, dick, and we're, like, the keloid in his fucking cock.
21:51Oh, God.
21:52He's like, fuck, I have a small mouth, but I just know how to work it, right?
21:55So I've never bit a dick, unless they ask me to.
21:58But, like-
21:59Which there are guys on with that.
22:00But if you have a huge cock, what do you expect?
22:02Jada, you like giving blowjobs?
22:04I love blowjobs.
22:05It's my favorite thing.
22:06Oh, you actually enjoy it?
22:07I love it.
22:07See, that's another thing, like, the lesbian thing, where girls are pretending.
22:11Every girl says they'll love to suck dick.
22:12Oh, yeah, no, it shows.
22:13Until you date them.
22:13Tell her, Phoenix, it shows.
22:14That's my favorite part.
22:15Why talk about a girl that loves to suck dick?
22:17It's a 50-50 dice roll.
22:18Yeah.
22:19It's, like, literally my favorite part.
22:20I could suck dick and cum.
22:22Like, that's, like-
22:23Suck dick and cum?
22:24Yeah, I might not even need sex.
22:27It's true.
22:28Wow, she's trying to get wifed.
22:30Yeah, she is wifing material.
22:32Hello.
22:32I'm a cancer.
22:33We're wifing material.
22:33I'm like, I'm going to hit them with the water bottle the closer you come closer.
22:36Oh, my God.
22:37Brownie point.
22:39Okay, how about this, okay?
22:40Eating pussy.
22:41Okay.
22:42Some guys have it, some guys don't.
22:43Yeah.
22:4490% don't.
22:4590% don't.
22:4690% don't.
22:47Okay.
22:47Teach us.
22:49There's all these blowjobs with banana classes.
22:52How do I eat a pussy?
22:53I mean, if a guy's willing to show you how to suck dick, I guess you could show him how
22:57to eat pussy, but it's just like-
22:58Yeah, but no one does that.
22:59But it's the best.
23:00You just have to have experience.
23:01You got to-
23:01Every girl just keeps quiet and then makes fun of him in the group chat the next day.
23:06Well, that's going to happen regardless.
23:08But you can definitely just experience.
23:11Like, I love a guy with experience.
23:13Like, that's how you get better.
23:14Yeah, we said.
23:14Like, we want a guy.
23:16You tell me you have zero body count.
23:17I'm like, well, so my rule is when a guy comes in the industry and you ask Damon who's over
23:23there now, I was like, I'll see you at 250 scenes.
23:27And they're like, what do you mean?
23:28I'm all, oh, no, you can't fucking handle me.
23:31You're not ready for my fucking fist pumps.
23:33Yeah, like, there's no-
23:34I know, right?
23:35Why is everyone talking about-
23:36She's a fister.
23:36It's scary.
23:37It's scary, scary.
23:38I do get-
23:38I'd let you fist me.
23:39She's never fisted me, ever.
23:40You fisted my ass?
23:42Yeah, but-
23:42Actually, I was doing the Browser's House reunion.
23:46Yes.
23:46And I said, okay, most iconic moment.
23:48And everyone just said the same thing.
23:50And when you let every girl shove their hands in your pussy at the same time?
23:54Yeah, so I had-
23:54There's like 12 hands up there.
23:56Oh!
23:57There's seven, and they made a friendship bracelet.
24:00Girl, what the fuck?
24:02Yeah.
24:03I said, everyone put two fingers in at least.
24:06And then, like, Ryan reads, like, little tiny fingers.
24:10She's like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
24:13I was like, did you have two hands in me?
24:15She's like, oh, my God.
24:18I love, like, yeah, no, that was like-
24:20Well, because we were down to dudes.
24:22So, as we both have discussed, there's every other porn star guy, and then there's the porn star guy, a
24:30.k.a. me.
24:31Right.
24:31It's like, I fuck these chicks better than the guys do, so fuck you, sorry.
24:36She takes pride in that.
24:37You love it.
24:38I do.
24:39I love it.
24:39I love to fuck.
24:40And, like, I just look at these guys, and I'm like, when there's only two guys, it's 17 girls.
24:48Well, on average, the most each one can have is five.
24:52So, now we've got floating seven girls.
24:55Fair.
24:56Who I gotta direct seven girls in.
24:58And then you did your thing.
24:59And I did it.
25:01Responsible.
25:02Leadership.
25:03Leadership.
25:03Yes, leader.
25:03That's it.
25:04Leadership.
25:05And what's really fucked up was, they said no anal.
25:08And I was like, I could have had all fucking 17 girls if they'd have said anal.
25:12I'd have been like, let me show you guys a party trick.
25:14But, no.
25:15Jada, what's the most dudes you've taken at once?
25:18One scene.
25:19Eight.
25:20You did eight?
25:21Yeah.
25:21Bull bang or gang bang?
25:22It was a gang bang.
25:23It was my one and only.
25:24Oh.
25:25I tried it.
25:26It was cool, but, like I said, it wasn't for me.
25:28Oh, big scene for you.
25:29It was huge.
25:30It was for Elegant Angel.
25:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:31I see it a lot.
25:32You know, I don't like to watch the gang bangs.
25:35I'm like, my poor baby.
25:37My poor baby is so much extra in the face.
25:41It's overstimulating for me, just put it that way, because I love to give attention
25:44to the main focus, and I just feel like that's all over the place.
25:47Were they white guys or black guys?
25:49They were white.
25:49All of them were white.
25:50There's one black guy.
25:52I can't remember what it is.
25:53But it was like James Dean.
25:54It was like, you know, it was back in the day.
25:56Maybe Prince was the only black guy.
26:00Prince or was it?
26:01That's terrible.
26:02Like, I don't even remember all, but I remember the day.
26:04I remember the day, and you remember what you thought after the day.
26:08Yeah.
26:08And you said never again.
26:10Yeah, it's not my thing.
26:11It's, like, to each his own.
26:12But, like I said, I love one-on-one sex.
26:14Even threesomes.
26:15I loved threesomes as I was younger, and as I've gotten older, I'm a one-on-one.
26:19I'm with you on that.
26:21You know, threesomes are a little busy.
26:22Yeah.
26:22You know, what's going on?
26:24Yeah.
26:24I love you.
26:24I love you, baby.
26:26It's cool to mix it in, but I love, like I said, one-on-one sex.
26:29It's nothing like it.
26:31I've never done a gangbang, a blowbang, or anything with more than three guys.
26:36What?
26:36How come?
26:37Never, ever.
26:37You just never wanted to?
26:38As I said, I never thought it was attractive, and I never...
26:42Wow.
26:43I was like...
26:44They wouldn't let me say that.
26:45I literally, I was just like, that wasn't my thing.
26:48You know what?
26:48I'm very proud of you.
26:49Yeah.
26:50Me too.
26:50I was just like, you know what?
26:52Now, all the male talent, Manuel, and Tony Rebus, and Kieran, all of them are like, I really
27:01want to see you in a gangbang scene.
27:02And I'm like, why?
27:05Why is there this need to see me in this gangbang scene?
27:07They're like, because it's the same thing as like a reverse girl, like five girls on top
27:13of me.
27:14And then what would happen is I'd she-hulk out of it, and I'd start snatching people.
27:17He goes, I think you would handle that the exact same way, is you would have seven dudes
27:24basically going like, where do I go?
27:27She wants me everywhere.
27:28Fuck, help me.
27:29So I'm just like, I can do it.
27:31I just don't find it attractive.
27:33I feel you.
27:33I feel you.
27:34I feel you.
27:35And I'm like, y'all better put all that cum inside me, so pick a line of who goes first.
27:41And I haven't seen a lot of boy-boy girls for you.
27:44Am I crazy?
27:46I've shot a good bit of boy-boy girls.
27:49Okay.
27:49DPs, though.
27:50Huh?
27:50They're probably more DPs than boy-boy girls.
27:52Yeah.
27:52Oh, the big booty requires DPs.
27:54Yeah, that was like a big thing.
27:55That's another part.
27:56It was definitely a lot of anal and DPs for me.
28:00That's all I really got.
28:03We got a lot of threesomes and guys.
28:05But I was definitely like stingy.
28:06I didn't mind that because like I said, I saved my pussy for my private life.
28:10So I thought I was like winning.
28:11That's a win-win for me.
28:12So you would actually do scenes anal only?
28:15Yeah.
28:15Maybe like a dip in the pussy, like one position.
28:18Wow.
28:18But once it goes there, it's not going back in there.
28:20Oh, God.
28:21I go everywhere.
28:22I don't give a fuck.
28:23I'm like, no, not going back in there.
28:25Let me ask you this.
28:27Full start to finish 30-minute blowjob scenes.
28:29Is that not the worst day in porn?
28:30No, it's the easiest day.
28:32Are you kidding me?
28:33I told you I love it.
28:34So it's easy for me.
28:35Oh, you like the blowjob.
28:36Yeah.
28:37I love the blowjob.
28:37Tell you what I jerk off to.
28:39And now and again, I'll throw in the JOI handjob on a real dick videos.
28:43Yeah.
28:44I like those.
28:44So, you know, that used to be a big site for Bang Bros.
28:47Oh, okay.
28:47Like they literally had a handjob and then it was called mono job.
28:52I like it.
28:53Yeah.
28:53I think it's good.
28:54Because I'm jerking off.
28:55I'm like, this kind of feels like what she's doing.
28:56Right.
28:57So then my thing is left-handed, right-handed.
29:00I'm lefty.
29:00I'm lefty.
29:01So you like the twist on the top.
29:03I like the twist on the top.
29:04I know.
29:05It's so crazy.
29:05You do know.
29:06I fuck a lot of dudes.
29:08I'm a lefty too, though.
29:09Are you lefty?
29:10You see, I think being a lefty for us is beneficial, but because for the foreplay, I get to go
29:16over
29:16here and she gets to go over there.
29:18We get to finger and touch each other.
29:19Yeah.
29:20Right.
29:21I don't know how all these righties are hooking up.
29:23It's like a crossover.
29:24Someone has to take it out.
29:26Yeah.
29:26We're just superior.
29:27Don't all righties want to be on the right side of the bed?
29:30I want to be on the right side of the bed.
29:31Of course.
29:32Right.
29:32And for us, when I get to bed and a girl's like, oh, that's my side.
29:37And she points at like the left.
29:38No, no, no.
29:39We're going to be fucked.
29:41Yeah.
29:41Yeah.
29:42How am I going to DJ diddles you?
29:43And how are you going to tug me?
29:45How often do you like handjobs?
29:47Like if you were to be in a relationship for long periods of time, not to bring up anyone,
29:52but like, do you like, like, hey, baby, I just want you to fucking stroke my cock.
29:58At least once a week.
29:59Really?
30:00Yeah.
30:00You prefer it over sex?
30:02Is it a legioness?
30:02No, not over sex.
30:03Or just like a.
30:03It's like, she's not in the mood.
30:05Can we just do this?
30:06Okay.
30:06You know?
30:07Or if she's really not in the mood, I like to just like, she's playing on her phone.
30:11I pull her pants down, like stick my face in her ass to like lick it and smell it and
30:14jerk off.
30:15And jerk off.
30:15Yeah.
30:15I like it.
30:16That's hot.
30:16I like doing that.
30:17And she's just.
30:18No one does that.
30:19I know.
30:19No, they don't.
30:20Oh, yeah, yeah.
30:20That's hot.
30:21That's my.
30:21I probably do that more in the sex.
30:23What the fuck?
30:24Go ahead.
30:25He's a booty man.
30:25Oh, I'm a fucking booty guy.
30:27I like to.
30:28You know, if I can't.
30:29You love to worship the booty.
30:30I'd love to worship it.
30:32Yeah.
30:32If I can't get hard, whether I'm too drunk or, you know, nervous, then I get in there,
30:38I smell it and I lick it and fuck, it starts to move.
30:41The booty smells good, though.
30:42It's true.
30:43It really does.
30:44It does.
30:44Oh, eat an ass.
30:45Okay.
30:46Okay.
30:46Is there.
30:47Always or which way?
30:48Well, I do.
30:49No matter what.
30:50Well, do you want it done to you?
30:51No, I do.
30:52I've only had that luxury twice in my life.
30:54Okay.
30:54Yeah.
30:56That's awesome.
30:56Just tell me the Lamborghini doors don't come up.
31:00Oh, the legs?
31:01Yeah.
31:02Well, okay.
31:02I saw actually in my notes research for you.
31:05You said you won't eat a guy's ass unless he's in a manly position.
31:08Yeah.
31:08Because that's just, that vision sticks with me.
31:11This is not any position a guy should be.
31:13I know, but it's so, it's, I do it that way.
31:16Look, if it's in the moment, I can do it.
31:18Yeah, because it's the blowjob.
31:19Let me see you do it.
31:19Okay.
31:20You're giving head.
31:20You go down to the gooch and now you're going to the ass and.
31:23That's different.
31:23We're talking about full on pull them up.
31:26Like that's why Lamborghini's doors come all the way up.
31:28They're fucking late.
31:29I skipped my last eight hot yogas.
31:31I'm not that flexible personable.
31:32It's just, it's very just not masculine.
31:35And I love like.
31:35So what is the masculine way standing up?
31:37No.
31:38No, you can pull them back.
31:39You can be like that, but they're not coming up by your head.
31:42Now your asshole's there.
31:44You got to go up a little because then your neck's going to break.
31:46No, you can pull them up.
31:48They're not coming up by your head.
31:49Period.
31:49Yeah.
31:50You're just, just like, this is perfect.
31:52Cause now I have full control of the dick, the asshole, the balls, the taint, and you
31:57can literally go up and down, wop, wop, wop.
31:59And then you can be stroking it while you lick the asshole, put pressure with your nose
32:04on the taint while you're licking the asshole.
32:06Wow.
32:06You're fucking money.
32:07There's just ways to do it.
32:09Okay.
32:10And that's the difference also between porn stars and these OF girls is they don't know
32:15about the balls, the gooch, the ass.
32:17They just do a little bullshit blow job, maybe on their knees for the POV.
32:20Right.
32:21That's another difference.
32:22Yeah.
32:22Huge difference.
32:23Yo, that is a difference.
32:25And you know what's funny is like a lot of the new guys that are like trying to be porn
32:30stars don't clean their asshole.
32:33I'm like, you wanted me to lick what?
32:36Yeah.
32:36There is a scene.
32:38How clean should it get though?
32:40Baby wipe and stick your finger in your butt.
32:42Okay.
32:43Okay.
32:43So here's the deal.
32:44Wash your ass.
32:45In your butt.
32:46Yeah.
32:46Well, no, they come to set washed, right?
32:49Like, and Prince came to set and always took showers.
32:52Yeah.
32:53Right?
32:53On set.
32:53So relax.
32:54A lot of them will do that.
32:56But if you're at home and it's like, take a baby wipe, fucking put it, wipe yourself
33:02and then put your finger like, just like this and be like.
33:05Like how far in the booty hole?
33:07Literally like if, like that.
33:09Okay.
33:10Like what?
33:11Now my tongue.
33:12Yeah, it's long.
33:13It's long as fuck.
33:14So obviously you're, it's like a small toy in there.
33:18That's a common, that's a common porn courtesy.
33:20Yeah.
33:21Wow.
33:21So you got to finger your booty.
33:23Yeah.
33:23A little bit.
33:24Yeah.
33:24Or make sure you do what you got to do and then wash your fucking ass.
33:2790% of the guys are fucking bi anyway.
33:30So there's that too.
33:31Whoa.
33:31Because the only way you're.
33:32Whoa.
33:32Whoa.
33:33What?
33:34What'd you just say?
33:35Because the only way you're putting your dick next to another dick inside of a hole where
33:39there's a very small film of skin is if you're good with other dicks.
33:45You think 90% of male talent are bi?
33:47And you know what's funny is we had this discussion, me and Lexington still on Vlad, DJ Vlad, right?
33:54And I looked at Lex and I, we just went interracial and I was like, well, I'm telling you like
33:5985 to 90.
34:00And then literally that year, seven or eight guys switched teams.
34:06They said, I got the co-sign.
34:08It is.
34:08I'm on a Phoenix.
34:09Phoenix said that, she called me out, so I'm out.
34:12And they literally all started doing trans and gay.
34:15I mean, it is.
34:16It's majority of the industry male talent is.
34:19What about Damon?
34:20Would you think Damon's a little gay?
34:21No.
34:22He's gone?
34:22Damn it.
34:23Well then, let's, tell us how you read it.
34:25No.
34:26No, no, like, and that's the other thing is Damon likes boy, boy, girl scenes, but his fetish,
34:32because he's told me, because we did this scene and it was our first scene together.
34:36He goes, I love the fact that you, I liked watching you get fucked by Rocco, Johnny Castle.
34:43And then I liked watching you fuck me.
34:46And then the fact that like, you're sucking my dick and you were taking it and it was just
34:51like a really sensual synergy that you do.
34:56And it was hot.
34:56And he's like, okay, cool.
34:58So, but it's like, he's watched my porn before he fucked me.
35:03So for him, it's like, I'm live watching Phoenix Marie getting fucked and my dick's in her mouth.
35:09Like, this is pretty cool.
35:10And that's exactly how he described it.
35:12Okay.
35:12If you put it that way, it's a little less gay.
35:14Yeah.
35:14Okay.
35:15And so there's that person that is like that.
35:17Yeah.
35:18But 99% or not, like more.
35:20Oh my God.
35:21Look at, we're both.
35:22When you do, you can do double anal and your dick still stays hard.
35:25Yeah.
35:26Yeah.
35:27That wall is paper thin.
35:29Yeah.
35:29Yeah.
35:29It's you're sharing juice.
35:31You're sharing juice.
35:33Your pre-cum is in there and so is his.
35:36And they're, they're both in there and they're wiggling.
35:38My next thing is like, you know, I didn't, so I've never done more than three guys.
35:43Right.
35:43So we had to get a floater guy for one of my scenes because they were like, there's no
35:49way three guys can keep up with you for two hours.
35:52I've never heard of a floater in my time.
35:54It's a floater.
35:55Please tell me what that is.
35:56So Tony T thought I would be willing to, and it's not his fault at all.
36:02Like he, everyone else knew the rules three, no more than three.
36:05And he goes, no Phoenix.
36:07Like at some point, one of these guys is going to need a break.
36:10And I thought about it after, by the way, the scene's done.
36:13I'm all, these motherfuckers were taking turns, taking breaks.
36:17I didn't get one fucking break.
36:19Like that's true.
36:20I'm doing double anal and then a badge at the same time.
36:24And so for a photo, I look at Cheyenne Collins, who's been retired for years.
36:30I look at Cheyenne.
36:30I was like, Cheyenne, come here.
36:31Just stick it in my mouth.
36:32That photo is the most searched photo of me because it is the only one.
36:37Like you're literally double anal, vaginal penetration, and you have a dick in your mouth.
36:42Error.
36:44Like that's crazy.
36:45Well, and for me, I was like, yeah, I was just like, just come over here.
36:50Like, it's fine.
36:51Just for this one photo.
36:52And now we're good.
36:53And now it's done.
36:54So you didn't mess around with that stuff.
36:56I mean, here and there.
36:59Shut the fuck up.
37:01I dabbled in it, but I definitely wasn't all the way in it.
37:04Like my pussy's so tight.
37:06Like it's.
37:06You have a nice tight pussy?
37:07Yes.
37:08It's very tight.
37:08My vagina is tight.
37:10Okay, can I ask you guys this?
37:11Yes.
37:12With pussies, is it that, like, is it true that, you know, a slut, a girl that fucks
37:17a lot of guys has a wider pussy?
37:19No.
37:19Or is it straight up just how your pussy is?
37:21So some women, I've noticed smaller girls can take bigger dicks inside their vaginas.
37:27Yes?
37:27Yes.
37:28Yes.
37:28It's a crazy thing.
37:30It's the anatomy of your vagina.
37:33You can do Kegels.
37:34Also realize every single time, like for me, and I know you do it too, because it's a,
37:39it's a fun thing that we can do is if a guy's not super huge, we can literally squeeze your
37:46dick and jerk you off with the inside of our, our vaginas.
37:51So we can, when we're riding on track.
37:53At the same time.
37:53This could be us, but you playing.
37:55So I'm just saying, like, I know she does it, and I know I do it, because we both do
37:59that.
37:59We call it the gorilla grip, we call it.
38:00Yes.
38:01We just sit there and go and talk, and then we're like, dot, dot, and we're just grabbing
38:05your dick and looking down at you like, you want to come early, bitch?
38:07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:08Yeah, I think working girls know that trick, because they want to get it over with.
38:12I love it, so I want it.
38:13I just think it's fun to fuck with them.
38:15I like to fuck with the male talent.
38:17I make them come early.
38:17It's very empowering to know that you have that power.
38:20You know what I mean?
38:21Yeah.
38:21See, men all wish we had that power on women.
38:23You do.
38:24Some do.
38:25Some do.
38:25They do.
38:26You have to talk a good game.
38:27There's very few.
38:28Yes, that's very true.
38:29There are.
38:30Okay, dirty talking.
38:31Dirty talking.
38:32How do we like the dirty talking?
38:34I'm a medium dirty talker.
38:36I love it, but I don't like exaggerate or too much of it.
38:40You know what I mean?
38:40Or where you're saying shit like, what?
38:41Like, hold on, what?
38:42Okay, so I was talking to Kieran Lee today, and he said, show me how you dirty talk.
38:47You know?
38:48So I was like, well, first I'll tell him, like, you know, your pussy's so fucking perfect
38:51and tight.
38:52It feels so good.
38:53You know, he goes, ah, boring, boring.
38:56I'm like, okay, what do you say, Kieran?
38:57Hold on, I saw you dirty talk with Angela White.
39:00Right.
39:00I loved that.
39:01Yeah, I love it.
39:02It was decent?
39:03Yeah.
39:04Thanks, Shada.
39:05Go ahead.
39:05Go ahead, though.
39:06I'm listening.
39:06Okay, he goes, boring, boring.
39:09Okay, how do you dirty talk here?
39:10And he goes, I'll grab her by the neck.
39:13I'll go in her ear, and I'll say, dirty fucking cunt.
39:16So the deal is, if you want to get him off, and my favorite thing is, just to turn and
39:21do this.
39:22I'm all, hey, I'm all, is it wrong that I just got fucked by three of your friends right
39:26before this scene?
39:28That's why I'm so fucking wet down there, is because all of your mates are already just
39:31fucking coming to me.
39:32You'll say that to Kieran?
39:33Fuck yeah.
39:33And guess what?
39:34Kieran comes in two seconds.
39:37You dirty little bitch.
39:39Or the breeding fetish is huge.
39:40It's like, oh my God, I already had like five guys come at me today.
39:44I really need your comments.
39:45I miss this way.
39:46I can have a baby, please.
39:48Oh my God.
39:49That like mortifies me.
39:50I don't want to think about that.
39:51That's crazy.
39:52And you know what?
39:53That fucking turned me on.
39:57Oh my God.
39:58That's the last thing I want to think about.
39:59I love Kieran Pry but I don't want to think about that.
40:04She loves it.
40:05Oh, at first I was like, what the?
40:09Uh oh.
40:09See?
40:11I like that.
40:13Jada, show us what you got.
40:14Um, I don't know.
40:16I just love when you like stretch my little pussy hole out and get it nice and fucking
40:21hard in my pussy.
40:23Yeah.
40:23She likes to watch it and feel it grow.
40:25You know what line I hear a girl saying now?
40:27And it's a good one.
40:28It's uh, use my hole.
40:29Like, yeah, use me.
40:31Yeah.
40:31Use my hole?
40:33Meh.
40:34Which one?
40:35Give me your specifics.
40:36Okay.
40:36You know what I mean?
40:37Right, right, right.
40:37Use my hole.
40:38I've said it.
40:39I'm like, I'll be honest.
40:40I'm like, but usually it's like, use my fucking hole.
40:43Use that dirty little fucking asshole because he wants to get your fucking cock off or like
40:47something like that.
40:48Dirty talker mandatory.
40:49You know, the craziest dirty talker for me and it's like crazy is Kelly Devine.
40:54I was like, oh, okay, okay.
40:57What was she saying?
40:58Oh, she was just.
40:59I can't even, I can't even repeat it because it's just bizarre.
41:02It's just like some people get in a mode and it's like, hold on.
41:05I don't know if I'm horny anymore.
41:06Yeah.
41:07Like, you know, it's like bizarre, but I love a good dirty talker.
41:10Give us an example.
41:11I like, I made Max feel bad.
41:13Max feels.
41:13And like, I literally was like, your dick is so fucking small.
41:17We should have turned the scene into fucking anal.
41:19Like, you really fuck people with this and you think you're a porn star?
41:22Like, are you fucking kidding me?
41:23What the fuck are you trying to do to the poor guy?
41:25Literally.
41:26But that's like, they love that shit too.
41:28That's not dirty talking.
41:29That's bullying.
41:31It's not bullying.
41:32Yes.
41:33But they love it.
41:34They love that.
41:34I wish I had that in me.
41:37Like, people love me to humiliate them, but I just can't do it because I'm such essential.
41:42Somebody just came.
41:44But anyways, yeah.
41:46People love to be humiliated and degraded.
41:48And I just, that's her specialty.
41:49Yeah.
41:49Because it's the dumbest shit on the fucking planet.
41:53Really?
41:53Yeah.
41:54I'm all, so every time I like fuck up a girl and she's like, oh my God, this is the
41:57best
41:57thing I, and the best sex I've ever had in like the last five scenes or five months I've
42:02ever done is usually because I've called them the worst names and done really degrading
42:08shit to them.
42:09Scarlet's Candle literally came running up to me and then her husband was there and he
42:13goes, the way you like curled her body and like threw her up against the mirror.
42:18Okay.
42:18For girls, submissive girls, but for dudes to say that little fucking tiny cock and that
42:23makes them cum?
42:23There's so many.
42:25They love it.
42:26Yes.
42:26There's a lot.
42:28I know.
42:28It's a big fetish.
42:29A guy has owns the OnlyFans name, the small cock.
42:34I just met him today and he goes, how will I get you for content?
42:37I was like, I'm under contract.
42:39I was like, you're not.
42:42Wrong person.
42:44You're going to have to, and I know that might be an easy day for some girls and they
42:47may be happy with some tuxedo condoms and like whatever, but.
42:51No, no, no, no, no, no, I got to be able to feel it.
42:55But it's, it's almost as though the big dick porn star days are almost dying.
42:58No.
42:58A lot of the new guys are not packing.
43:01No, they're average.
43:02That's why I don't fuck them.
43:03They're average.
43:03That's why I don't fuck them.
43:05Yeah.
43:05Because they're scared.
43:06They're scared of you.
43:06They're scared of me over here.
43:07Oh, that too.
43:07Well, go dread it.
43:08Go dread it up then.
43:09So that's the only one I haven't had.
43:11I know.
43:11That's what I'm saying.
43:12Go dread it up.
43:12And there's this other guy, uh, Brick, what's his name?
43:15Brick Zilla.
43:16I did Brick.
43:17I haven't seen him.
43:18Yeah.
43:18Brick.
43:18He's bigger than dread, I heard.
43:20No way.
43:21Oh, no.
43:21I mean, I don't know.
43:22And then I've heard of this, uh, Danny D who I just met.
43:25Apparently he's nuts too.
43:27Yeah.
43:27He's got a giant one.
43:29Um, his, uh, he's done both sides.
43:32His other name is Matt Hughes.
43:34Okay.
43:34You guys both been Danny Deed?
43:36I have.
43:37Yeah.
43:37And it's insane.
43:38It's easy day.
43:41It's just like, it's easy.
43:42Easy day.
43:43Okay.
43:43Who's your favorite talent to work with?
43:45Um, I love J Mac.
43:47I love J Mac.
43:48Dude.
43:48The best reviews this guy.
43:50Yeah.
43:50I've always loved him.
43:52I've done my first scene ever in porn with him.
43:54So it was always like a porn crush.
43:56Yo, he has slept on.
43:57Cause he's not a big name for like mainstream normies.
44:00Right.
44:01But fuck this.
44:01But you've seen his dick before.
44:03Nice.
44:03Guaranteed in your favorite.
44:04Nice.
44:04Yeah.
44:05And a nice fucker.
44:06Yeah.
44:07Yeah.
44:07And everyone loves J Mac.
44:08And after he's done.
44:10Yeah.
44:10He will literally bring girls food.
44:12Like if he's all, hey, uh, yo, like Melissa, I'm going to grab food.
44:17Like, are you hungry?
44:18Like, I know it's a meal all day.
44:20It was great.
44:21Yeah.
44:21It's either before or after.
44:23Make sure you're taken care of.
44:24Like, he's all, hey, are you good?
44:27Like, did I go too hard?
44:29Did I do this?
44:30Like, you were in the washing machine.
44:31Cause we did a laundromat scene recently.
44:34And like, he's all, were you okay?
44:36Like, I felt like it was pinching you.
44:38And I was like, no, no, we're good.
44:39And he's like, okay.
44:40And he goes, can we rub the oil off of you a little bit?
44:42Like, just super.
44:44Just a gentleman.
44:45Yeah.
44:46Okay.
44:46A good fucker.
44:47I, who else do I like?
44:49Who else do I used to like?
44:50The new, the new kid on the block, Alex Jones.
44:53Never fucked.
44:54Okay.
44:54I think so.
44:55It's crazy because somebody told me that I have done a scene with him back in the day
44:59for Bang Bros.
45:00And they had to show me, but I didn't remember.
45:02I'm horrible.
45:03Like, if, unless you make an impression on me, I'm.
45:05Yeah.
45:05No, he used to struggle back then.
45:06Hey girls, are, is the hype days of Johnny Sims over?
45:10No.
45:11I actually haven't fucked him.
45:13I was supposed to with Angela the other day.
45:15That's crazy actually.
45:16Yeah.
45:16I mean, I haven't, I don't think.
45:17He's amazing.
45:18He's a sweetheart.
45:18He is incredible.
45:19And he's incredible.
45:21He's an amazing sweetheart.
45:21But since he's been out of the game, you know.
45:23He's not out.
45:24Time moves fast.
45:25He's shooting so much personal content.
45:27Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:28I don't know.
45:28I feel like Johnny's days are dying, bro.
45:30Who would you pick?
45:31As the GOAT?
45:32Yeah.
45:33Hmm.
45:34Now you have to take some time and I'm going to let you know who the real GOAT is after
45:37that.
45:38The real GOAT is Manuel Ferrara.
45:42Okay.
45:42Yeah.
45:43Yeah.
45:43I can agree with that.
45:44And then, honestly.
45:45Who did he learn from, though?
45:48Is that Johnny?
45:50Okay.
45:51Manuel.
45:52Manuel learned from Nacho.
45:53Okay, here.
45:54And from Rocco Sufredi.
45:56See, we don't know those guys.
45:57But we're talking.
45:57Who doesn't know those guys?
45:58No one here.
45:59Honestly, those are like epic.
46:01No one here.
46:01No one here.
46:02Anyone?
46:02It's a little fucking water bottle.
46:03Boys, you've heard those names?
46:05Have you?
46:05Yes, because they actually are kind of swords.
46:08The three.
46:09I'm talking from normies.
46:11Okay.
46:11Okay.
46:11Top three, then you're going to say is Kieran Lee, Manuel Ferrara, and Johnny Sins.
46:15Yes.
46:15Yeah.
46:16Okay.
46:16Because you're going to give browsers.
46:18You're going to give Manuel because he's Manuel.
46:20That's the podium.
46:21And then there's the European, Jordi El Nino.
46:26Of course, Jordi.
46:27I love Jordi.
46:27Okay.
46:28He's fourth.
46:29Really?
46:30Yeah.
46:31Interesting.
46:32Okay.
46:32Go ahead.
46:32Continue.
46:33Now I know the rest of the ranking.
46:33Because he has a fucking name.
46:36I think he's number one because he has the name then because he's more famous than all around the world.
46:39Yeah.
46:39He's the most famous, right?
46:40He is the most famous.
46:41Okay, fair.
46:42Okay.
46:42We're talking American.
46:43We're talking American.
46:44Okay.
46:44Well, I mean.
46:45That's just like, you know, international star.
46:48Well, you have to remember Manuel is technically French.
46:51Yeah.
46:51So now you're cheating again.
46:53And then number five.
46:55Tough one.
46:57Is it Mick?
46:59Mick is the most consistent male performer.
47:02Mick.
47:02That's the five.
47:03It's just you got to wait for the pop.
47:04Other than that.
47:05Yeah.
47:05When you want a hard dick that can do anything.
47:08A good ALC.
47:10Cement.
47:10Mick Blue.
47:11Yeah.
47:11Mick Blue.
47:12There's the five.
47:13Okay.
47:14I would add a couple others.
47:16But yeah, I'll take yours.
47:17You're going to throw in some like internal shit.
47:19No, I throw in like Lexington Steel.
47:21Yeah.
47:22Because he is the OG goat.
47:26I think that he was underrated.
47:28Mr. Marcus at his prime.
47:30You got to throw in some chocolate.
47:32Yeah.
47:33Um, I really was into, and like, me and Lex were going to date.
47:38The only award I've ever won was from Lex.
47:40So, uh, I dated Prince.
47:42Meh.
47:43Mandingo was cool.
47:45Mandingo was afraid of me.
47:46He wanted girls tiny.
47:48So that's the dream team I just named?
47:50But LeBron James, who's on fire right now?
47:52It's dread.
47:53Yeah.
47:54I mean, I haven't done dread.
47:54Because he's just the most talked about goat.
47:57It's fucking huge.
47:58But what about Jason?
47:59Because thanks to Lena and Adam, like,
48:01Jason got fucking, like...
48:03Who's Jason?
48:04Love.
48:04Jason Love.
48:05I haven't worked with him.
48:06I haven't worked with me either.
48:07Jason's a Luka Doncic.
48:09Yeah.
48:10But I'm...
48:11I mean, I would have to test that out.
48:13I would know he just looks like a pretty boy to me.
48:14Oh, Jason Love?
48:15Yeah.
48:15He's the king BBC.
48:17Okay.
48:17Right?
48:18I mean, I think...
48:20If I...
48:21I think he's very...
48:24He's so hot, though.
48:25He's hot?
48:26Yeah, he's pretty.
48:26He is so hot.
48:27I think he has, like, a great way of carrying himself.
48:30I just don't know if he has a personality.
48:33I think he's more of, like, a quiet fucker.
48:36Yeah.
48:36Which I can't deal with.
48:38Yeah.
48:38I'm like...
48:39I heard he has, like, a billion sugar mamas that just send him out.
48:42I'm sure he does.
48:43I believe that.
48:43He looks like the type.
48:44Right?
48:45I can't even hate on that.
48:46Yeah.
48:46Legend.
48:47Mm-hmm.
48:48Okay, now we're gonna go girls, okay?
48:49Okay.
48:50The goats.
48:51You guys go.
48:52The goats.
48:53Okay.
48:54We're definitely in our top five, for sure.
48:56Top five.
48:56Okay.
48:57And we're not...
48:57We're not five.
48:58Jada Fire.
48:59Jada Fire.
49:00Yeah.
49:01Okay.
49:01No, Alexis Texas.
49:03Okay.
49:03Jada Fire.
49:04Jada Fire.
49:05And Pinky.
49:05Who the fuck is that?
49:06I loved...
49:07Brown and Love.
49:08I loved Rose Monroe.
49:09Rose Monroe was...
49:10Yeah, she was kind of...
49:10She was so fucking hot.
49:12Who is it?
49:13That was Pinky.
49:14Pinky.
49:14Pinky was from our era, for sure.
49:15Yeah.
49:16Pinky and Roxy Reynolds.
49:17And Cherokee.
49:19Cherokee.
49:20Yeah.
49:20Cherokee the ass.
49:22Whatever.
49:22Okay.
49:23Pinky.
49:23You guys ever heard of Pinky?
49:25That's so cool.
49:26Absolutely.
49:26You never heard of Pinky right here, okay?
49:28Those are...
49:29We came from the golden era.
49:31That's the golden era.
49:31Actually, he's a porn guy.
49:34Which one?
49:35I'm all...
49:35Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:36I've seen his vids.
49:39Very nice.
49:39See?
49:40Okay.
49:41We're way past our time, but this was amazing.
49:43Oh, that's because it brought you Jada Stevens.
49:46This was probably the easiest episode I've ever had to get through.
49:48Yeah, there was no alcohol today.
49:50Yeah.
49:50Wow.
49:51What?
49:52Yeah.
49:52Crazy.
49:52Crazy.
49:53Crazy.
49:53Well, I had fun, guys.
49:54I had so much fun.
49:56Jada Stevens, you're an angel.
49:57You're so sweet.
49:58And I know this is rare to get you on the show, so I really appreciate it.
50:01Phoenix, thanks for making it happen.
50:02You look so good today.
50:04And can't wait to get the tea.
50:06Mm-hmm.
50:06All the tea.
50:08And this was Pillow Talk.
50:10We'll see you next Tuesday.
50:10Bye, guys.
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