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Detective John Black followed Harry Scott to the witness stand and was questioned about several key developments in the investigation, beginning with the discovery of a bloodstained shirt at Newt Lee's home.

Black said that on the Tuesday afternoon following the murder, he went with Detective Fred Bullard to Lee's residence at 40 Henry Street. The two men searched the premises and found the shirt in a clothes barrel inside Lee's room. It was near the bottom of the barrel, covered over with scraps of old garments, the barrel apparently serving as a dumping place for worn-out clothing.

Asked whether the shirt found in the barrel was the same one Lee had been wearing Sunday morning when the Phagan child's body was discovered, Black said it was not. The shirt found at the house appeared to have been washed, though the remainder of his description on that point was not captured in the record.

No Positive Evidence

Juror Langford pressed the detective directly. Had he discovered any positive information as to who committed the murder?

"Do you mean positive information?" Black replied. "No, sir, I have not."

Contradicting Quinn

Black then offered testimony that stood in direct conflict with what Lemmie Quinn had told the jury earlier that morning. Quinn had testified to visiting the pencil factory on the Saturday of the murder. Black said otherwise.

According to Black, Quinn told him the Monday after the tragedy that he had not been to the factory that Saturday at all. "Quinn made the statement in my presence two or three times," Black said. On one occasion, Detectives Starnes and Campbell questioned Quinn in the basement of the pencil factory, and he again denied having been there.

Black also noted that it was at his suggestion that Frank was brought to speak with Lee at the police station, the conversation Lee had already described from the stand, in the hope of getting the truth out of the watchman.
Transcript
00:00Detective John Black tells the jury his views on the Fagan case.
00:03The Atlanta Journal, Friday, May 9th, 1913, page 6, column 1.
00:09Detective John Black followed Detective Scott on the stand.
00:12He was questioned about the finding of the bloody shirt at Newt Lee's home.
00:16He said that on the Tuesday afternoon after the murder,
00:19he went with Detective Fred Bullard to Newt Lee's house at 40 Henry Street.
00:23They searched the premises, he said, and found the bloody shirt in a clothes barrel in Lee's room.
00:28The shirt was near the bottom of the barrel and was covered with scraps of old clothes, he said,
00:33the barrel apparently being used as a dumping place for old garments.
00:37Asked whether he had seen the shirt that Lee had worn the Sunday morning the Fagan child's body was discovered,
00:43Detective Black said it was not the same shirt that was found in the barrel.
00:46The shirt found at Lee's house had apparently been washed, but not rest of sentence cut off Ed.
00:52Juror Langford at this point asked Detective Black,
00:54Have you discovered any positive information as to who committed this murder?
00:58Detective Black replied,
01:00Do you mean positive information?
01:01No, sir, I have not.
01:03Detective Black contradicted the testimony given at the morning session by Lemmy Quinn
01:07by saying that Quinn had told him the Monday after the tragedy
01:10that he had not been to the pencil factory the Saturday before.
01:14Quinn made the statement in my presence two or three times, said the witness.
01:18On one occasion, Detective Starnes and Campbell questioned him in the basement of the pencil factory,
01:22and he said he had not been there.
01:25Detective Black said that it was at his suggestion that Mr. Frank talk to the Negro to get the truth
01:30out of him.
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