Quando si dice tale madre tale figlia si parla di loro. Stefania Nobile, figlia di Wanna Marchi, torna in televisione quattordici anni dopo la condanna definitiva assieme alla madre per associazione a delinquere finalizzata alla truffa aggravata. Belve 10.10.2023
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00:00I've made so many mistakes, I've never stayed there.
00:08Today almost blindly, I'm wrong about you
00:12Watch out, Carlo
00:13Good evening, welcome
00:15Good evening
00:17Good evening, please.
00:19Good evening
00:21Stefania Nobile, good evening and welcome!
00:24Thank you
00:24What a drink you can feel
00:26At this moment or in life?
00:30A little bit of her face
00:32So, at this moment a hungry beast
00:35Many things
00:39To take back what's mine
00:42Because television is also a little bit mine
00:44And here it is, welcome
00:46By right, in life
00:47Oh, by right?
00:48Yes
00:48Television is rightfully his
00:49In life I feel like a noble beast
00:53Who always gives a second chance
00:56But no further
00:57The second one yes
00:59The third one tears apart
01:00Who could the noble beast be?
01:02Well, let's say that nature is always noble
01:04Because man is the only beast that has succeeded worst of all
01:08I'm a scorpion
01:10I'm waiting to catch it
01:11Poison is precious
01:12Before giving it
01:13I need to know who to give it to
01:15Did she say?
01:16Certain
01:16It is true
01:17Also because the scorpion dies after biting
01:20But if she's alive she didn't get caught
01:23Evidently I have a good supply
01:25She said about herself
01:26Sincere yes, mean no
01:29Not even good
01:30No, I don't love good people
01:33Also because I don't believe in good people
01:36There are no good people
01:38But she said
01:39Sincere yes, mean no
01:41A little mean
01:42So, let's say we need to see what is meant by bad
01:45If wickedness is always telling only the truth
01:48I'm bad, I'm wicked
01:49Do you recognize a little bit of malice in being sincere?
01:53I always say only what I think
01:56This sometimes comes at a very high price.
01:58That I have always paid
01:59I have no outstanding accounts
02:01I paid for everything
02:02I was, am and always will be Vanna Marchi's daughter
02:06Because she's a genius
02:08If his mother is a genius
02:09How would you define yourself?
02:12Well, let's say that behind a character like my mother
02:16In short, he is an imposing, important, predominant character.
02:22There must be a person who has as much character
02:25Because otherwise she will crush everything and everyone
02:27So she's a genius and she?
02:30The back of the genius
02:33The retro genius is her
02:34She said the character is her
02:37But I've been to jail too
02:39And of course
02:39I always feel
02:41Ah, Vanna Marchi spent nine and a half years in prison
02:43Ah, Vanna Marchi they have us
02:45But I wasn't there in all this
02:47Eh, she said modestly too
02:49In fact, in the courtroom I was the bad guy for the PM.
02:52Actually, he's right, we're getting there now.
02:55They always called me
02:56The Vanna Marchi
02:58Did she lose herself a little in her mother's character?
03:02Never
03:02I've never felt like I was in the shadows
03:04I never feel like I'm in anyone's shadow.
03:07Everyone has their own space
03:08She is Vanna Marchi
03:10I was, for a while, Vanna Marchi's daughter
03:13Today prison gave me an identity
03:16I'm Stefania Nobile
03:18You see that that is also useful
03:20Compared to what she said about the retro genius
03:23Many actually consider her to be a bit of a grey eminence of the couple.
03:27The mind, the black lady
03:29Blacker than her mother
03:31Does this fame gratify you a little or does it just displease you?
03:35No, I like it
03:37I like it, I repeat
03:39I don't, you know when I hear those people say
03:42No but I'm good
03:43No but I know, I never said I was good and I never will say it.
03:47But being the black lady, the very eminence grise that is a bit behind it, right?
03:51It's something that doesn't answer
03:52It depends on what you mean.
03:53I mean, what she did, it's my fault
03:57Of everything
03:57No, okay, she's already at the level, she's already at the process
04:00No, I don't know what you mean.
04:02That is, he wasn't just a character in the background, you know.
04:06Well, let's say that I have been credited with great intelligence and I like that a lot.
04:12Do you recognize her?
04:13Absolutely yes, I am.
04:16Very intelligent
04:17Yes
04:17For better or worse when she is alone, without her mother?
04:22No, so let's say that when I'm with my mother this feeling comes on.
04:54It's a sense of protection
04:57In our life she is an escort
04:59Understood?
05:00Did you see?
05:01You were followed a lot, maybe loved, I don't know, and then hated a lot.
05:07As a percentage, how much are you loved and how much are you hated today?
05:12With the sincerity that distinguishes her
05:14Always
05:14Who is the fake?
05:16He's the one who adores you, who loves you and who would like to be you
05:18But since it can't be you, he hates you
05:21That is, are you ruling out the possibility that there are actual reasons for hatred towards you?
05:25Absolutely yes, nowadays I don't see the point.
05:29I just don't see the point.
05:30Not for what you don't do today, but perhaps for what you did yesterday
05:34But maybe because people have also started to understand what we really did yesterday
05:39Which is not quite what they said
05:41So those who hate you today would like to be you?
05:44So, let's say that nowadays they hate you if you have a nice car.
05:48They hate you if you have a beautiful family, they hate you for various reasons
05:51So if they hate me for all these reasons, long live hate
05:55That is, envy then, he says
05:56Sure yes, but people who fall and get up again
06:01They arouse a lot of envy
06:02She said I feed on hate and envy, I bite her, that's why I don't get fat
06:08True, I hate sweets, I hate many things
06:11I feed on hate and envy
06:12A good life
06:13Absolutely
06:13No, then, they are people who go to the gym
06:17I don't need it because I do these exercises every day
06:21I clash with daily
06:23The anti-yoga she
06:25Hundreds of glances
06:28So I study
06:29If I want to please I know how to do it
06:33If I want to stay even longer
06:35Anti-money order
06:36I know how to do it
06:37I mean, it's not that I want to please everyone.
06:39She says
06:40Many people write to me on Instagram looking for help.
06:44Because they say that talking to me is reassuring
06:47Yes
06:48I think how they are
06:50Oh no
06:52So, they don't write to me as a magician
06:57People write to me asking how to find the will to live again.
07:04How do you find strength after everything that happened to you?
07:08Because guys, it's not a small thing.
07:10No
07:10What happened to me and my mother
07:12Oh no
07:13Deserved or not deserved
07:15Absolutely
07:15This is not the point of discussion on this question
07:18When I hear women getting depressed because their man left them
07:23Eh
07:23I don't go there in depression
07:25Do you give advice?
07:27Yes
07:28Oh
07:29Yes
07:29She said
07:30Scratch cards are the biggest scam of the century
07:33Certain
07:33One wins every 25 years
07:35Every day I see some idiot scratching
07:37But what are you scratching?
07:40Alright
07:40Because it's not the truth
07:40And then she adds you too
07:42But if you talk
07:43But if you talk we are the bad ones
07:45Well, people don't just go into a tobacconist's and if they don't buy it, they'll take away the evil eye.
07:49Excuse me, but the Italian lottery wins one, eh?
07:52Oh I understand
07:53How many do they sell?
07:54Aside from the fact that they sell less of them now because the year they sold the most sold them
07:58my mother
07:58Oh, as in the solid
07:59Oh no, it's the truth
08:00That is, the data speaks, it's not me speaking.
08:02Maybe those were different times for me.
08:03Oh no, but who wins out of so many tickets?
08:07A
08:07Oh the sense
08:08So what about the others?
08:10The others aren't idiots
08:11It's not that they enter the tobacconist's and yet there is the threat
08:14But it wasn't even here
08:15Of the evil eye
08:16Look, it's very easy to threaten someone over the phone.
08:19Look, they call me from the center from morning to night.
08:22I'm hanging up
08:23Well what happened after that
08:25No, it's not, it's not being able to threaten.
08:28Look, you give me credit for it, I thank you.
08:31Because if I had this power
08:34Eh
08:34To be able to keep people on the phone with threats
08:39If I tell her that she has the evil eye and ask her for a certain amount of money
08:42What does she do?
08:43If an idiot gives them to me and if a clever one puts them down
08:45Oh well, but we'll get to that later.
08:48No more need for disadvantaged people
08:52Oh but enough, don't leave him
08:53No, I mean, I'm here for that purpose.
08:57But I say enough because they were not disadvantaged
09:00But well let's say that there are some naive people yes
09:03But most people are very fragile people.
09:06But naivety is not that I have to provide for naivety
09:08Well, but you played on the fragility of others.
09:10There is but we always end up there anyway
09:12Tell me one of your good qualities, look, I'll make you smile again
09:15I have many qualities
09:16It's one I make space the selections one
09:19Even the fact that I wake up every morning with a smile
09:22And always having to fight with these questions
09:24It means I'm number one
09:26This is precisely the reason
09:27So he's smiling
09:28He is patient
09:29My good thing is that I love life
09:31A lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot
09:34A flaw
09:35Many
09:36A
09:37If I want I can be very bad
09:41Yes
09:42No, I don't believe that.
09:43I am very vindictive
09:44Yes
09:45No but she always talks about twenty years ago
09:47Twenty-three years have passed
09:49I can be even more evil
09:50I have refined my wickedness
09:52Twenty-three years have passed
09:54She is vengeful when she takes revenge
09:57When was the last time you had to take revenge for example?
09:59No, I think so.
10:01I am a scorpio as she said at the beginning
10:04Yes
10:05Over the years I have learned
10:06See the person who hurt us the most in life
10:09The famous Marquis Capra de Carré
10:12Yes
10:12Do it
10:13Who is no longer among us today
10:14And I honestly don't miss it
10:17But he taught me many things
10:20And he always told me
10:22When you want to hurt someone
10:24First of all you have to wish him a long life
10:27Because he needs to see your successes
10:29But if you learn to ignore it
10:33It will be your winning weapon
10:35And I do this
10:36Oh well, I thought it was worse.
10:37Look less bad
10:38When was she born?
10:39His mother said
10:40She was born so big
10:42It was very short and very big
10:44I remember thinking
10:45This remains a small woman
10:47And small women are not very popular
10:49And then it grew up instead
10:50So he risked belonging
10:52To that category of chubby people
10:53So unpopular with you
10:55And yet in Bologna they say
10:57Fat in the band
10:59Magri in the square
11:00So
11:00It's true fatso
11:02I was pretty chubby
11:04Was your childhood a happy one or not?
11:08How do you remember it?
11:08Verifying
11:09Yes?
11:10Mine was a terrible childhood
11:13Very ugly
11:14Why?
11:15Which I wouldn't wish on any child.
11:17Because when two people together
11:19They do damage
11:22They have to leave each other
11:23He talks about his parents
11:24Obviously
11:25I lived a childhood
11:27In the midst of blows
11:30Screams
11:31And I saw all the different houses
11:35That my father has put over the years
11:37To his lovers
11:38She said anyway
11:39At school I beat everyone up
11:41I've given so many blows in my life
11:43Which I almost miss now
11:44Maybe now it's time to start again
11:46It is true
11:46If a child was mean to another
11:50Because bullies have always existed
11:52Did she beat them?
11:53Certain
11:53The last time he hit someone?
11:56I?
11:57Eh
11:57Well, it's not that much.
11:58Eh
11:59It's not a lot
12:00Is she trained?
12:02Eh working at night
12:04In short
12:05We have to defend ourselves in Milan.
12:07It's not that we have
12:08What happened to her?
12:10Eh
12:11But why did he have to beat someone up?
12:13Well now I'm definitely not going to beat you up
12:14It's been a few years
12:15But maybe give two slaps
12:18To someone who exaggerates
12:19Yes
12:20At some point
12:21As she says
12:23His mother's success explodes
12:25Become the queen of teleshopping
12:27This crusade of yours begins
12:29Against lard
12:30And with the belly melter
12:33And by the way, it's his idea.
12:35You create an empire worth 3 billion lire
12:38In turnover per month
12:39350 thousand customers
12:41And 102 employees
12:44When did all that money come into your possession?
12:46But you've really lost your way a bit.
12:48Well yes
12:49I wasn't able to handle it
12:52I'm not ashamed to say it
12:53Meaning what
12:53There was a time when I had seven cars
12:56That is, he actually drives one of those cars.
12:58Seven whys?
12:59But we earned a lot
13:01Meaning what
13:02It's not that
13:04We earned and I spent it
13:06Everyone was fine with me
13:07All my friends ate
13:11Of all that I gave him
13:14If you found them then these friends
13:16In difficult times?
13:18Absolutely not
13:19Now they're back
13:21But I don't want them
13:21I don't even know who they are
13:23Did he also use drugs during that time?
13:26Never
13:26Cocaine must be done by Stefania Nobile
13:29Not me of her
13:30I don't need it
13:31Here you are
13:32Well
13:32No, also because I see them all as idiots.
13:34It's not that I see these smart guys doing it
13:37Meaning what
13:38I see them all as idiots
13:39And instead?
13:41No, I don't
13:42She has a very subtle sense of humor.
13:45That I like
13:46His E too
13:47And it's an E
13:48His E is significant
13:51She gets involved anyway
13:53At some point in teleshopping
13:55Also on video
13:56She stands next to her mother
13:58His brother Maurizio also spent some time there
14:00But then he leaves the scene instead
14:00Yes no
14:01He disappeared immediately
14:02Because it wasn't brought
14:04It wasn't his
14:05And what did she bring instead?
14:07But
14:08At that time
14:09The truth
14:09I never liked it
14:12I did it because
14:14I was with my mom
14:15Because it was our job
14:17He knows how
14:17I don't know
14:18There are some boys
14:19Which they find themselves having to follow
14:21Dad's company
14:22And even if I don't love him
14:24They do it
14:24In short
14:25I have never loved
14:26Working in television
14:27Sincerely
14:28They lived off her
14:29The Mother's Valley
14:31Did you hear it or not?
14:34No
14:34I have not been
14:35Nobody's Valley
14:36I was my mother's daughter
14:38Which is different
14:39His father Raimondo said
14:41Stefania has never been able to
14:43To reach
14:44Mom's performances
14:46She didn't break the video
14:48There was nothing to be done
14:49You think what beautiful things
14:50Said by a father
14:51His father said
14:52In fact he said
14:52When Vanna got tired
14:54And he couldn't take it anymore
14:55She relieved her
14:56Immediately
14:57The flow of phone calls
14:58It was starting to decrease
14:59As long as the phones were silent
15:01I had a great dad
15:02A certain affection
15:04I had a great dad
15:07Indeed
15:09When my father died
15:11I'm sincere
15:12I was also ashamed
15:15But I didn't hear anything
15:16Then I got lucky
15:19Of having a second dad
15:21And my second dad
15:22I miss it like the air
15:25Before entering
15:26I write to him on WhatsApp
15:27Everyday
15:29However after the great success
15:31Of the belly melter
15:32That it was a hoax
15:33Obviously
15:34One of the biggest hoaxes
15:35Of history
15:36Why?
15:36Because when she goes to pharmacies
15:38And he sees the others
15:39What are they instead?
15:40The belly melter
15:41It melted the belly
15:42In ten days?
15:43We never said
15:44In ten days
15:45These are the fairy tales
15:46But I see
15:47All advertisements
15:49Now
15:49I see the panties
15:51But those were successes
15:52Miraculous
15:53In ten days
15:54A brush
15:56Let's have a good time
15:56You get Belen's ass
15:58Meaning what
15:59What has changed?
16:01We have cheated before
16:02And the others are cheating now
16:03But also his mother
16:04He said
16:04It's not that we could
16:05Promise in a month
16:06We had to say
16:07Which worked in seven days
16:08At that time
16:09Let's say that that
16:10What was there then?
16:11Compared to today
16:12That there was more freedom of speech
16:14Today with political correctness
16:16Nothing more can be said
16:18So a fat
16:18You could have called him fat
16:20Not today
16:21He's differently thin
16:22So you already see
16:23If I went on television
16:24If I had to say
16:25Differently thin gentlemen
16:27Meaning what
16:27It's funny
16:28It's pitiful
16:28It's painful
16:29It's pathetic
16:30It's pathetic
16:31It's pathetic
16:32It was better before
16:32But there is
16:33Listen
16:34A fat is called fat
16:36A skinny guy is called skinny
16:37Meaning what
16:38It's useless
16:39It's like this thing
16:40Black, white, yellow
16:41Meaning what
16:42I don't understand it
16:43No but why you
16:43Let's say
16:44You were a little
16:45A bit'
16:45You were offensive
16:46In comparisons
16:47Not offensive
16:49Realists
16:49It's always the same speech
16:51But as she said
16:51You disgust her
16:52Are they beautiful?
16:53Do we want to say that they are beautiful?
16:55Hand
16:55You were obviously offending
16:56Certain
16:57No
16:57We put them in front
16:59To reality
16:59Because they didn't get there on their own
17:02It's like when she goes to a store
17:04I are
17:04Not long ago
17:05A few months ago
17:06It happened
17:06That there was a lady
17:08In front of me
17:08Who was trying on a dress
17:09And he was very sick
17:10The saleswoman told her
17:12Well it's not bad
17:14Come in to her
17:15I do not
17:16At the moment
17:16There was the lady
17:18I didn't say anything
17:18He waited for her outside the shop
17:19I told the saleswoman
17:21I said
17:22Look what to say to a person
17:23He's not doing badly
17:24It's worse
17:26Of the truth
17:28Because he's not sick
17:29It means
17:30you suck
17:31Take it off
17:31And I try something else
17:33I am like this
17:34Anyway, whatever
17:35It's not like you were helping people.
17:37To be aware
17:38But what do I have to help
17:39If someone eats like a pig
17:41It's not that I have to help him.
17:42He helps himself
17:43There are people who burgle
17:45I know people
17:47That at the table
17:48They never eat
17:49No
17:49I've already eaten
17:51600 kg of man
17:53Or of a woman
17:54And they will eat
17:55I believe
17:55But I don't know how to do his
17:57So in chin
17:57No
17:58At that moment
17:59It was my business
18:00I sold weight loss products
18:01Because he wanted to place it
18:02Well it's clear
18:02It was my leverage
18:03On betrayals
18:04What they were going to meet
18:05The fat
18:06Excuse me
18:06I know a person
18:07Who sells an ointment
18:09To enlarge the penis
18:11At that time
18:11We want to talk about it
18:12That is, it's a scam
18:13Or he was defrauding Vanamarchi
18:14Saying fat
18:15You need to lose weight
18:16It's a scam I guess
18:17If a man thinks
18:18That with a cream
18:19Become super gifted
18:21Of course
18:21We want to justify it
18:23That too
18:23Of course
18:24Poor thing
18:25But what you did
18:26Others don't do it
18:27This is little
18:29But sure
18:29It's not like you were the only ones
18:30In Italy
18:30But the trade
18:32To sell products
18:33Preying on insecurity
18:35That's what I wanted to say
18:36However you
18:38At some point
18:39After the success
18:40Of this
18:41Some algae
18:42No?
18:43And of the melting
18:43They were the algae
18:44Very effective
18:47You decide to try
18:48With perfume
18:50This is bullshit
18:51About my father
18:52I already know where he wants to go.
18:53Flag?
18:55Yes
18:55Oh well
18:56But you did it
18:57Certain
18:58That didn't go well
18:59No, it went very well.
19:00But my father
19:01He enjoyed saying this
19:03That had gone badly
19:04But my father
19:04He always had fun
19:05To discredit my mother
19:07To steal the billions
19:08That my mother collected
19:09With what didn't sell
19:10He said
19:11That is, he said he didn't sell.
19:13She made billions
19:14And he stole them from her
19:15The trio was this
19:16Beyond that it is not
19:17Did you like or dislike Flag?
19:19No it was extraordinary
19:20And he represented it
19:21A wonderful man
19:22An ex-boyfriend of hers
19:24There was this ad
19:25On the horse
19:25Mister Universe
19:26Beautiful yes
19:28Amedeo Leonardi
19:29Beautiful boy
19:30What was missing
19:31Two years ago
19:33Anyway
19:33This perfume Flag
19:36Let's say it evoked
19:38Hints
19:38No
19:39That's another one
19:40Sensual
19:41It was Flag
19:42He had made me another
19:43It was called Erotic Dream
19:45What she says
19:46And that didn't go very well.
19:47No, it went very well.
19:48Look, he's gone
19:49That is, things that didn't go well.
19:51Anyway
19:51I don't remember any
19:53I'm telling the truth
19:54How would you describe this Flag to me?
19:57But it was a perfume
19:57That is, the perfumes
19:58No hints
19:59The fact already shows
20:00The skill
20:02To be able to sell a perfume
20:04On television
20:05So, do you realize?
20:07Yes but still
20:07What did this Flag know about?
20:09It was a very masculine perfume
20:11And clearly showing him
20:13This pesto from Susanello
20:15As we say in Bologna
20:17It is clear that the males
20:19They thought that using Flag
20:21They would have mounted the horse
20:23And not just the horse
20:24Even the mare
20:26This is the story
20:28There is elegance
20:29This flag
20:32Obviously
20:34She says it didn't go well
20:35Anyway
20:36A slightly more complicated period is coming
20:38From an economic point of view
20:40No?
20:41Yes
20:41Of debts
20:42Of the exhibitions
20:43And they enter the panorama
20:45In your panorama
20:46A series of characters
20:48Rather questionable
20:50From Milva Magliano
20:51That she was a criminal
20:53To the Marquis Farlocco
20:55What she mentioned earlier
20:56Carrè Goat
20:57To the master
20:58The Marquis Farlocco
20:59It was the Milan era
21:01Very good
21:02It was good
21:03Friend of all
21:04Yes yes yes
21:05Me at the Marquis' house
21:06I met everyone
21:07Everyone
21:07But in fact
21:08Silvio Berlusconi
21:09Marcello De Lutri
21:11Ornella Valloni
21:12100 people
21:14The master of the birth also arrives
21:17That before being
21:18Master of life
21:19Salt activator
21:20Miraculous
21:21He was the butler cook
21:22He was the butler
21:24By the Marquis Capra de Carrè
21:26Eh
21:26At that point
21:27Your life changes
21:28Let's say
21:29Your second life begins
21:31From telemarketers
21:33No?
21:33It's the one that then brought you
21:35At the trial
21:36To jail
21:36Etc
21:36Despite all our
21:40Peripesties
21:40We for the people
21:42We've always been on air
21:44Society was changing
21:46Which represented us
21:47But we were always there
21:48So people
21:49He didn't know
21:50What had happened to us
21:52Of course not.
21:53This no
21:53Let's say the system changes
21:55That changes too
21:56That you started selling
21:57Because first there were creams
21:59You never gave them up
22:00But start selling
22:02Lucky numbers
22:03And up to there
22:04The lot is all there
22:05I'm not aware of that.
22:06They closed it
22:07Three nights ago
22:08I was talking to a boy
22:09That by dint of playing
22:11These late numbers
22:13And under 140 thousand euros
22:15Vanamarchi is not in action
22:17Vanamarchi is out of the game
22:19People with or naivety
22:21Oh fragility
22:21They are always there
22:22No, they are not fragile.
22:23They're just idiots
22:25Fragility is something else
22:27It's something else
22:29Well, you've intercepted a bit of everyone.
22:30Let's say
22:31Because you had so many customers anyway
22:33So in statistics
22:34You have intercepted almost all the customers
22:52They didn't aim at anyone
22:53No but there are various forms of coercion
22:55However the system was
22:57The system was a bit like this
23:01She and her mother
23:04You were selling these lucky numbers
23:07Obviously for a fee
23:09People called
23:10Because strangely enough
23:12Strangely enough they didn't come out
23:14They had problems
23:15So you were convincing people
23:16That they had the evil eye
23:18What they do today
23:20All the wizards in the world
23:21And so to escape the evil eye
23:23You would have provided salt etc.
23:26There is a treatment
23:27And there the price went up
23:31And so
23:32Never denied
23:34I'm absolutely not asking you to repent.
23:36Because she's already said it a hundred times
23:37That you are not sorry
23:39But your luck
23:41It was based
23:42Listen, but what do I have to regret?
23:45Of having done nine and a half years
23:46And to see the gypsies
23:48Of the Milan subway
23:50Who go to rob people
23:52With the healings of the body behind
23:54And they go on TV to act like hotties
23:55But it's not that admitting
23:56What do I have to regret?
23:58But apart from the fact that she took it, it was
24:00That I don't ask you to repent
24:00To see social media full of magicians
24:02I don't ask her to repent
24:03Because I know the answer
24:05But it's just a crime
24:06Raises another crime
24:08No but I
24:09What I'm asking you
24:10And if she admits
24:12He doesn't regret it
24:13Because I know
24:14And I'm not asking him.
24:15If she admits the fact
24:17May your luck
24:19It was created
24:20On the fragility of others
24:22No?
24:23No
24:23Fragility is something else
24:25I repeat it to you.
24:26But she doesn't like this thing
24:27No no me
24:28So what should I tell you?
24:29That they were fragile?
24:31Eh
24:31But when a mother
24:33With a drug-addicted son
24:35She calls her desperately
24:36She and her mother saw it
24:37With the drug-addicted son
24:38Well okay
24:39In short, there have been so many
24:40Many testimonies
24:41Within
24:41So first of all
24:42In front of 350,000 customers
24:4578
24:45But what a drag it was
24:47Can I say it?
24:48No
24:48After 23 years
24:49Eh
24:50What a drag
24:51Well though
24:51But look
24:52The thing that amazes today
24:54That shocks
24:55It is not
24:55Understood?
24:56Because the story is known
24:58AND
24:58It's the personal journey
25:01Which did not bring
25:03Not
25:04I repeat
25:05Otherwise it's personal
25:06But he has a mission
25:07At least
25:08She is a person
25:08Extremely intelligent
25:10No?
25:11And I tell you this
25:12In her opinion
25:14I can do it myself
25:15I ask you a question
25:17I could make sense of it
25:19Seeing that
25:21Everyone
25:22They do
25:22The magicians
25:23But that's another story.
25:24We want to talk about that
25:25What does the Madonna see?
25:27Look
25:27So what?
25:28But what do I believe in?
25:30No
25:30But about what?
25:31But that's another story for me.
25:32And I agree with you.
25:32Why didn't they make a law?
25:34Which prohibits
25:35To everyone?
25:36By the way I also add
25:36That the penalty was very high
25:38Years and a half
25:39You've all done them
25:40She paid her bill
25:41All
25:41In fact it is here
25:42And he even tells it
25:43So
25:44This absolutely
25:45I give you credit.
25:46And that there are people
25:47That they still use these methods
25:48It's obvious
25:50Why did they never call us?
25:51To reveal
25:52What are the moves
25:54That trigger
25:55This thing
25:56In the lever of people
25:57Of course
25:58But you don't have the only ones
25:59Because he doesn't care
26:00But they didn't care.
26:19Stop
26:20November 15 - January 24
26:22Arrested
26:22Oh okay
26:23Right away
26:23But not even for a serial rapist
26:25They move like this
26:26Right away
26:27But maybe they had the evidence.
26:29About what?
26:30They had the evidence
26:30Ah we were dangerous
26:31Look, we were walking around
26:32With the stake
26:33The one for crucifying
26:34Anyway
26:35The vampires
26:36We were going around like this
26:37We were crowding people together
26:38On the street
26:39But when we say
26:40In all these years
26:41The voices were there
26:42Not until then
26:44At the conclusion
26:45There was a moment for you
26:47In which you had
26:49A form of
26:49How to say
26:50Of delirium
26:50Of inpotence
26:51So you thought
26:52That you would have made it
26:54During this thing?
26:55In recent months
26:56When it was obvious
26:57Which could have ended badly
26:59No
26:59That is, you have never had
27:00The feeling
27:01It ends badly
27:02Enough now
27:04I knew I was doing something
27:06Which was not
27:08Perfectly in line
27:09With the law
27:10Okay?
27:11And I have never denied this.
27:13There was a moment
27:14How to say
27:14Of a little delirium
27:16Of inpotence
27:16So one feels
27:17Immune to everything
27:18No?
27:19Do you understand?
27:20No but at that stage there
27:21We didn't even have any more
27:22The delirium of inpotence
27:23No
27:24The delirium was much earlier
27:26When for the first time
27:27The gate has closed
27:28Of the cell
27:29You were in the room
27:31Together I imagine
27:32No, at least at the beginning.
27:33We were put in the infirmary
27:35Because I have
27:35An important pathology
27:37She has a serious illness
27:39He already had it
27:39And it was done
27:40In short, years of prison
27:41With this pathology
27:43But in the end
27:44No one else
27:44She would have done
27:45Only Stefania Nobile
27:47Another would have been
27:48Under house arrest
27:49I do not
27:50He had a treatment
27:51Tougher
27:52He says it
27:52Because it's a media case
27:53Absolutely
27:54But the first thing
27:56What you told each other
27:58The first evening
27:59Just as the gate closed
28:01Oh I will never forget it
28:02January 24, 2002
28:06Practically at the beginning
28:09It all seems unreal
28:11It seems like a dream
28:12You can't seem to make it happen
28:15Then you find yourself
28:16She said it right
28:17When you hear the armored door closing behind you
28:20And you have this bowl in your hand
28:22This dirty blanket
28:24And a roll of toilet paper
28:25And there the instinct to turn around
28:29But you realize
28:32What did you say to each other?
28:33What did you say to each other?
28:33She and her mother
28:34I
28:34We looked at each other
28:36And I know
28:37That she cried
28:39On one hand
28:39Me on the other
28:40But together
28:41We have never done it
28:42Why not?
28:43No
28:43Because we had to be strong
28:45One for the other
28:46We have never
28:47Nobody has ever seen us
28:49Crying in the cell
28:51I was crying in the shower
28:52But I changed there
28:53She went out
28:54Is he a better person?
28:56Absolutely yes
28:57I used to be a big bitch
28:58I say it
28:58I've always said it
28:59His mother said
29:01Of feeling guilty
29:03For what happened
29:05To her too
29:06I know she feels it
29:08Is he right?
29:09No
29:09Why isn't he right?
29:11Because we were together
29:11I was grown up and vaccinated
29:13Nobody forced me
29:14No
29:15One of the moments
29:16More complicated in prison
29:18It was when they separated you
29:20It's yours
29:21It's a very strong love
29:23But also a sick love
29:25Morbid in part
29:28My mom and I are
29:30It makes me want to say
29:31Even grew up together
29:32Because for me she is not a mother
29:35We shared so many things
29:38It's not that it's a sick love
29:40It's love to the nth degree
29:44There is a form of emotional dependence
29:47Reciprocal?
29:48This yes
29:49I love my mom
29:51Even though he doesn't see his flaws
29:53As you surely see mine
29:55But I wouldn't know how to live far away
29:59One meter from my mother
30:00And in fact you sleep in the same room
30:03Yes
30:03Two separate beds
30:04Yes
30:05Can't she let us go to another room?
30:07Why we look
30:08We talk all night long too
30:09Eh
30:10The day is not enough for us
30:12We talk even at night
30:13And this has limited you a bit in other relationships.
30:17She hasn't developed perhaps
30:19But oh my god
30:19I have had three cohabitations
30:21So I've had my periods over the years
30:23That I've been out of the house
30:27I prefer mom
30:29And the men stay at home
30:32Engaged now?
30:34No
30:34I have my ex great love
30:37Which is what I work with
30:38Now he's actually my best friend.
30:40Anyway, you guys have been so close in life.
30:45That you even managed to get married together
30:47On the same day, October 29, 1990 in Miami
30:50Yes
30:51His mother with Francesco Campana
30:53Yes
30:54And she with a certain Claudio Artuso
30:55Who showed up in a black tuxedo trimmed with sequins
30:59Yes
31:00How long did poor Artuso last?
31:01His 30-odd years
31:03Mine lasted three months
31:04Eh
31:04Cat a ring road
31:06Yes but you're already looking
31:08It was right to marry his mother
31:09No it was fair because they gave us a lot of money a newspaper to do the wedding
31:14This is the truth
31:15Many
31:16And so we had this wedding
31:19Fake
31:20Knowing that if I didn't write it down here it wouldn't be worth anything.
31:24Oh, there was just one
31:25It was all fake
31:37Fake
31:38Fake
31:39I think he lives but I honestly don't care
31:41I don't know
31:43Yes
31:44I know
31:44Every now and again
31:45How much did they give me?
31:47So much has passed
31:4950 million lire each
31:52100 million in 1990
31:5450 and 50
31:5650 and 50
31:57Oh 50 each?
31:59Oh sure
31:59He was married for three months and Artuso did well
32:02He hit the jackpot
32:03Alright
32:04She told me she was in love now
32:06No
32:08No
32:08No
32:09I'm always in love
32:10Of a man do you mean?
32:12Eh
32:12No
32:12I don't have time anymore
32:14I don't have anymore
32:15But the last time you had your heart beating for someone
32:19When was it?
32:19For Al Pacino when I met her in Milan
32:22You beat me there so much
32:23Look, I read this story and I couldn't believe it.
32:25Because she said
32:26I did it
32:27No
32:27I've been in love with Al Pacino since I was 12 and I met him
32:31I knew he was in Milan shooting a film about the Gucci case
32:35He slept at Palazzo Parigi
32:37When he arrived I turned around we looked at each other and he said
32:40Very nice
32:42The second day I came back and he blew me a kiss from the car
32:46I waited for it 50 years
32:48If this is not determination
32:49Now he cheated on me
32:51What can we call it if it is not determination?
32:54In another way?
32:55He must have swung 100 kisses from the car that day
32:58Ninth
32:59Not just her
33:00No no no
33:01No no no
33:01He said very nice
33:02If not, he told her will you marry me?
33:04He will have said
33:04I didn't have time
33:05The gorilla took him away
33:07Breast
33:07Breast
33:08If not, I wouldn't have escaped.
33:10Do you like it?
33:11I?
33:12Physically
33:12No, I like everything
33:14I don't give much importance to it
33:15To physical appearance?
33:16Yes
33:16Yes I'll give it to him
33:17But I want to say
33:18Today I know that if I want I can have anyone
33:22Yes
33:23But not for a question of beauty, not beauty
33:26There are beautiful women who are hotties
33:29Eh
33:29They are useless things
33:31Eh
33:32Useless
33:32Well, it was understood before without adding
33:34Oh no no
33:35I mark it well
33:36I emphasize it well
33:37And what about her who has more than enough to have whoever she wants?
33:41That I am a resolved woman
33:44And it's very popular
33:47I'm a mistrozzo
33:48Let's not say that
33:50When I was in love
33:52I was, eh?
33:53That is, for example
33:54The one between me and Davide
33:55It was a beautiful love
33:57So much so
33:57David who was
33:58David the Cerenza
34:00Yes
34:01Let's say he has a resume
34:02Not bad
34:03Between investigations things
34:04For other reasons
34:05But that's okay
34:05And she says that he
34:07He didn't skip an interview
34:09He always came to go to prison
34:10It was wonderful
34:11It was wonderful
34:12But then when she went out
34:13She arrived home
34:14He was under house arrest
34:15She says
34:16I'm arriving home
34:17I find a monkey in my bed
34:19Yes
34:19And who was he referring to?
34:21To a Barbary ape
34:23To one of those who seek the man
34:25That he keeps them
34:26Alright
34:26However he was with someone else
34:28When I arrived
34:29Under house arrest
34:59How very cleverly
35:00How many times have I saved him?
35:02Eh
35:03Many
35:03He says he walks
35:05Talk on the phone
35:06And it hides a little
35:07Because he thinks she's behind it
35:09Certain
35:09It's right
35:10All right
35:11We are no longer together
35:12Officially since 2013
35:15And she for ten years
35:17But he controls me too
35:18I mean, I see him for one evening.
35:21And I don't say anything
35:22I don't care
35:22But he never saw me
35:23But she's an evil eye
35:25Let's say
35:26No
35:26I wish I knew how to do it
35:28I would make many of them
35:29Don't get down
35:30Don't get down
35:30No, I knew how to remove it.
35:32I was saying
35:32Oh
35:33Don't do it
35:34It's different
35:34She works in Albania today
35:37Between Italy and Albania
35:38And what does he do?
35:39Are you opening any venues?
35:40Restaurants?
35:41Yes
35:41I renovate premises
35:43And I sell them
35:43Yes
35:44I want to lose my mind again
35:46So I'm trying to make more money than before
35:49The whole world is looking for Vanna Marchi's treasure
35:52Maybe you're wasting your time looking for that
35:54While I'm building more treasures
35:57Does he earn a lot?
35:59No
35:59I said this in context
36:01Yes
36:01I also remember where
36:02I earn
36:04Yes
36:05I earn
36:06Have you recovered?
36:07It will never come
36:08Will I ever get that?
36:11But that's not what I would honestly like either.
36:15That is, everyone likes money.
36:17But to everyone
36:18Not only to Stefania Nobile and Vanna Marchi
36:21Everyone likes money
36:22Oh well
36:23But with today's awareness
36:25The problems I had
36:27Health etc.
36:28I know that having those is enough to live well
36:32Any news from Magodo Nascimento?
36:34I saw it
36:35Did you see him interviewed?
36:36During the Netflix episode
36:37I have never seen it
36:38Most viewed
36:39I haven't seen him since 2001
36:41Eh
36:42His mother says at least one postcard from Brazil
36:44Because he didn't spend a day in jail
36:47Well, I don't wish that on him.
36:49Well I mean I'm glad he didn't do it
36:51It's not prison
36:52No, but it should never be looked for again?
36:54No never
36:55But he also admitted that he was wrong.
36:58He said it during the Netflix episode
37:00But he didn't get it back?
37:02No because afterwards you know
37:04It's those things left unsaid that pass over the years
37:06And they don't care anymore
37:07Is there anything in life that moves you?
37:10A father with a child
37:12And even if he also has a dog
37:14I cry
37:16The most beautiful image
37:17Why did I miss it?
37:19In life, do you feel you have won more or lost more?
37:23Won
37:25His mother said
37:27I won't die even after I'm dead
37:29I will remain in history
37:31 True
37:31And her?
37:32I will always be Vanna Marchi's daughter
37:34But I will stay too
37:37Certain
37:37In 100 years
37:39When his mother is no longer there
37:41Do you think you can do it?
37:43I hope to die before my mother
37:45I say it every day
37:47I've already suffered too much
37:48Losing my dad
37:50I don't know if I could take it
37:53I know it's a natural thing
37:56Losing your parents
37:57And the opposite is unnatural
37:59But the bond that my mom and I have
38:02It's a lot of stuff as I say
38:04So the answer to this one wouldn't make it?
38:08I couldn't do it
38:09Of course we have it...
38:10I have too much respect for life
38:12To say that I would never take my own life
38:14But I would definitely change
38:18I would never be the same again
38:20Are you a happy person?
38:22Today yes
38:23Very
38:24Do you believe in God?
38:26Very
38:26In God
38:27Not in the church
38:29Please
38:30It hasn't happened to me in a long time
38:33The need for God's presence
38:37It is felt most in bad moments
38:40And then, as selfish as we are
38:43When things are going better
38:45We tend to forget
38:47But I absolutely believe very much
38:49I went this summer
38:51In the house where Mother Teresa was born
38:53I am very devoted to Mother Teresa
38:56Yes
38:57And she thinks we say
38:59What
39:00The behaviors you have had
39:03They are compatible
39:05With this form of devotion too?
39:09But
39:11I have always believed in God
39:13Here for example
39:14When I saw my father hitting my mother
39:17I prayed to God to make him stop
39:19Those were the moments
39:21Perhaps where I prayed the most
39:24I felt like I was sinning, perhaps
39:27Yes
39:27When we did
39:29What we did
39:31And she forgives
39:32Not to others
39:33But God
39:34Did he ask for it?
39:34No
39:35Because one day
39:36I will find you in front
39:38And he will tell me
39:38And does hell or heaven await him then?
39:41No heaven two balls
39:42For goodness sake
39:43I want to go to hell
39:45Why are my boys there?
39:46Sinners must go there
39:48Ninth
39:49Heaven no
39:50Which tour do we choose?
39:51To bed early at night
39:52Ninth
39:53It's not his
39:53I drink champagne
39:54I am a sinner
39:55I'm not well in heaven
39:57His mother to Moreno Pisto
40:00He said that on the tombstone
40:01He would like it to be written
40:03I will even sell you death
40:05And what would you like to be written there?
40:08On his own tombstone
40:09I will live forever
40:10Thank you
40:12Thanks to her
40:13It gave me a wonderful emotion
40:16Thank you
40:16Thank you
40:20Thank you
40:21Thank you
40:21Thank you
40:22Thank you
40:25Thank you
40:27Thank you
40:27Thank you
40:27Thank you
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