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Temptation Island - Season 4 - Episode 12: The Reunion EngSub
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00:00:03Right here, right now.
00:00:05Hello, and welcome to Temptation Island, the reunion.
00:00:09This season, four couples came to the island
00:00:12with serious questions about their relationships.
00:00:14Tonight, those four couples and the single men and women
00:00:18who were a part of their journey
00:00:19are here to talk about their experiences.
00:00:22She, you kissed me.
00:00:24Oh, my God.
00:00:25That was the most painful thing I've ever been through.
00:00:28Like, who the f*** is that person?
00:00:30I'm, like, shaking because I'm so pissed.
00:00:32I just got caught up in the moment.
00:00:33She didn't force you to kiss her.
00:00:35Stop making me look crazy.
00:00:37You can't ever speak to a woman like that.
00:00:39Who are you?
00:00:40Don't act like that's the reason you're a dick.
00:00:43He told me, like, he was messaging a page on Instagram.
00:00:45I thought I could f***ing do it, but I couldn't f***ing do it.
00:00:48I hate him. She knows this.
00:00:51I've never liked him, and I still don't.
00:00:53Wow.
00:00:53It's all happening right now,
00:00:55here on Temptation Island, The Reunion.
00:00:58Right here, right now.
00:01:00Right here, right now.
00:01:02You're not gonna tempt me.
00:01:05You'll never forget me.
00:01:09You're not gonna tempt me.
00:01:11Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:01:16You're not gonna tempt me.
00:01:19You'll never forget me.
00:01:23You're not gonna tempt me.
00:01:29Welcome, and thank you all for being here.
00:01:31Thank you for being here.
00:01:33Please say hello to our couples.
00:01:35Iris and Luke.
00:01:36Ashley and LaSalle are here.
00:01:38You remember Jillian and Edgar.
00:01:40And, of course, Ash and Hanya.
00:01:43It was a little bit of a question, but how is everybody?
00:01:46Great.
00:01:46You're well?
00:01:47Great.
00:01:48Great.
00:01:48Okay.
00:01:49Okay.
00:01:50Pretty awkward, yeah.
00:01:51And, of course, what would their journey have been on Temptation Island without the single
00:01:55men and women who are part of that journey?
00:01:57Some of them are here tonight.
00:01:59Thank you, single, for being here.
00:02:00We are definitely gonna hear from all of you, but now let's get things started out with
00:02:04our first couple.
00:02:05Ashley and LaSalle's welcome.
00:02:07Now, after seven years of being together, you two came to the island hoping to break a
00:02:11codependency and then explore some connections outside of your relationship, which you did.
00:02:16Yeah.
00:02:16You hoped this new freedom would give you a clear view of what was missing.
00:02:20Let's take a look back.
00:02:22We haven't had an opportunity to be with anybody else, really go out on any dates.
00:02:27So we don't know what life is without each other.
00:02:30I really want you to have an amazing experience and have a good time.
00:02:35Always think about us, no matter what you're doing.
00:02:37Of course.
00:02:38Everything he said was, like, everything I wanted to hear.
00:02:41Like, we have that bond.
00:02:43Sometimes.
00:02:46Sometimes we don't really have it.
00:02:51I don't know if I told you, but my boyfriend and I have been together for seven years.
00:02:54Yeah.
00:02:54Like, seven years.
00:02:55I'm not gonna just throw that away.
00:02:56Like, oh, seven years, whatever.
00:02:59You know what I mean?
00:02:59I think we'll need to take a break.
00:03:03I want to explore this individual journey more.
00:03:08LaSalle's transformed into this different guy I never knew even existed in him.
00:03:14You might want a break.
00:03:16Mm-hmm.
00:03:17And he might still be saying what you want to hear.
00:03:20But deep down, he actually might want to break up.
00:03:24I don't even want to break up.
00:03:28Forget Ashley.
00:03:30I need to be with you.
00:03:31I need you in my life as a girlfriend, future, wife.
00:03:39I love you.
00:03:41I can't see my life without you.
00:03:47I'm here for myself.
00:03:49I'm not here to protect anybody else's feelings.
00:03:51I'm here to discover mine.
00:03:53Are you saying you're falling out of love with Ashley?
00:03:56If I'm being honest with myself, I think I am.
00:03:58I want to leave with you and work things out.
00:04:09I'm not gonna leave alone.
00:04:14What I have with Trace is special.
00:04:16Wait, Mark.
00:04:17I want to change my mind.
00:04:19Deep down inside, I really want to leave by myself.
00:04:23Okay.
00:04:27Oh, boy.
00:04:29There's so much there.
00:04:30But first is you broke down.
00:04:33Why?
00:04:34I kind of put myself back in that moment just because I wasn't being honest with her.
00:04:39You know, if I would have told her, you know, I don't feel emotionally available to you, then, like I
00:04:46said, we wouldn't have been here.
00:04:47So it was like a missed opportunity that I had.
00:04:49I had a part in that.
00:04:50So say we never got this opportunity, would you still drag our seven-year relationship to make it 10, 20,
00:04:56and just waste my time?
00:04:58So, like, I don't think I dragged it out.
00:05:00I think we both had played a part.
00:05:02And it's because we weren't being honest with each other.
00:05:04What happened between the two of you after you left the island?
00:05:07Um, I honestly was not looking forward to going back because I know I was going to face a lot
00:05:10of hell.
00:05:11But I knew the first thing I wanted to do was talk to Ashley about everything.
00:05:14We had a conversation for, like, five hours.
00:05:17And we literally sat down and we discussed exactly what happened in my house and his house.
00:05:22And we had different, I guess, visions coming into this island.
00:05:27But it still doesn't feel the same anymore.
00:05:29Did you, in your mind, see a final bonfire where you were getting a ring?
00:05:33Yeah.
00:05:34Because we spoke about engagement almost, like, what, once a month?
00:05:38Very frequently, yeah.
00:05:40So I have this vision in my head, like, fairytale vision, and it just, like, erased in a matter of
00:05:46seconds.
00:05:47So that's what got me really, really mad.
00:05:49There were two people that were very much part of both of your journeys.
00:05:52Blake, for you, Ashley, was very much a part of it.
00:05:55And Trace, why don't we just bring you down here and let's check this out.
00:05:59It seemed to be everything that anybody would want.
00:06:02Cheers to that.
00:06:05What I want to show her is what I believe that she needs in her life and what I need
00:06:09in my life, which is her.
00:06:10I don't want to have, like, what ifs.
00:06:12Like, what if I didn't do that?
00:06:13Or what if I didn't do this with Blake?
00:06:16And I feel like you are supposed to be, like, in my life for a reason.
00:06:20You do mean a lot to me, Ashley.
00:06:23Very special person.
00:06:25You do mean a lot.
00:06:30I really like her.
00:06:31She's been everything I've been looking for.
00:06:33And it's kind of crazy that it happened here on this island.
00:06:40At the end of this journey, I have to make a choice.
00:06:45And I don't want to bring, like, my extra baggage onto you.
00:06:49I'll always be here for you, Ashley.
00:06:51The way that Blake made me feel this entire time was just pure love and happiness and genuine kindness and
00:06:58romance.
00:07:00One last kiss.
00:07:04I'm just so grateful for Blake.
00:07:06And we'll always have that connection outside of the island.
00:07:11Pretty sweet moments there, Blake.
00:07:12And Ashley said that she wanted that connection off the island with you.
00:07:17What happened?
00:07:18Honestly, on, like, our last couple days, we were talking about LaSalle.
00:07:21I was pampering you.
00:07:23I was feeding you with, you know, the many comments.
00:07:25But, like, you helped me open up.
00:07:27And without that experience, I want to be able to, you know, luckily find myself with Madeline.
00:07:32Yeah.
00:07:33I'm so happy for you.
00:07:35So.
00:07:36Wee!
00:07:39So you two are a thing.
00:07:41Absolutely.
00:07:41And how long has it been a thing?
00:07:43It's been about a couple months now.
00:07:44From what?
00:07:45Why am I choked up?
00:07:46I don't know.
00:07:47I'm just like.
00:07:49So, back to Ashley and Blake for a moment.
00:07:52Because it looked like there was something real happening here.
00:07:55What was it about Blake that opened that possibility up for you?
00:07:58It's just the way Blake came across so loving and, like, a shoulder to just not only cry on,
00:08:03but I could, like, tell you anything and you won't judge me.
00:08:06And I want to tell you from the bottom of my heart that you literally made me the woman
00:08:11I am right now.
00:08:12It just makes me thankful that, you know, I was there to help you for the whole journey.
00:08:16Um, because we were, like, pretty much best friends the whole time.
00:08:18Like, and you told me about how your whole family and, like, how you grew up, like, you
00:08:22had that loving childhood.
00:08:23Like, of course you'd, like, be open and with families.
00:08:26I don't know what.
00:08:27LaCelle, like, if it took you seven years, man, and she's still talking about being open
00:08:31up with emotions, why did it take you to come to an island to break her heart?
00:08:36Ooh.
00:08:37Obviously, Ashley knows I care about her.
00:08:39Like, I, in my eyes, I was doing a lot of the things to, like, be there for her.
00:08:44You know, I was your number one biggest fan.
00:08:45I was doing everything.
00:08:47You want to go to the store?
00:08:48All right, I'll go out of my way.
00:08:49I woke up at four in the morning to pick you up places.
00:08:51Like, I do all these other actions that I think that shows the love.
00:08:54Me, I'm not the most romantic person.
00:08:56And I've, I've known that.
00:08:58And I'm working on that's one thing, the reason why I'm here.
00:09:00So you just kind of go through the relationship, not numb, but just going through the motions.
00:09:05So, after a while.
00:09:06You're just going through the motions with Trace?
00:09:08Huh?
00:09:08You're just going through the motions with Trace?
00:09:10No, no, absolutely not.
00:09:11That was different.
00:09:12Because this is a different environment.
00:09:13But why was it different?
00:09:14It's something new.
00:09:15No, no, and this is, I'm going to actually bring it up.
00:09:17Remember, I was like, there's certain things that was missing.
00:09:19Same thing, you were like, you're, you're not asking me these romantic, deep, emotional questions.
00:09:24And I, I wasn't.
00:09:25But then Trace was challenging me on certain things.
00:09:27She was asking me, like, she understood me half the time before I even finished the sentence.
00:09:32She would ask me questions.
00:09:33And I'm like, man, I never thought about that way.
00:09:34And, you know, when you're in this environment and you can just focus on you instead of your partner,
00:09:39then you can really focus in on, like, what's missing.
00:09:43And I appreciate you searching for some truth here, LaSelles.
00:09:47And we're with you on that.
00:09:48We have to take a break.
00:09:49But when we come back, we're going to uncover some new information involving one of our couples and singles
00:09:54after the island that you do not want to miss.
00:09:56And we'll be right back.
00:10:04You're not going to tempt me.
00:10:08You'll never forget me.
00:10:10Welcome back to Temptation Island, the reunion.
00:10:14Trace, did you know that LaSelles was going to pick you?
00:10:16Or were you nervous awaiting this decision?
00:10:19Every day is a nervous situation with him.
00:10:21Every time I wake up, I'm like, I don't even know if he's going to like me today.
00:10:24I don't know.
00:10:24So when it came down a bonfire, I mean, we talked about it a few times, but he never really
00:10:28just gave me a for sure answer.
00:10:31And that was one thing that, you know, was so irritating.
00:10:33So I'm like, if you're building this up, tell me I love you, tell me all these things, and you
00:10:36don't leave with me.
00:10:39The hell is that?
00:10:40LaSelles, you instantly made a connection with Trace, and what followed was a rollercoaster of a relationship that went from
00:10:48zero to I love you in about six episodes.
00:10:51It's also a relationship you literally tried to keep behind closed doors until producers caught you.
00:10:56Oh, God.
00:10:57Wait, what?
00:10:57Let's see it.
00:11:00I am only romantically interested in Trace.
00:11:05I'm looking at eyeballs on me and looking at cameras on me.
00:11:08You see, I told you.
00:11:09If it wasn't on camera, then you'd be in my, yeah.
00:11:13But, um, I wish.
00:11:17This is getting bigger, and I can't do nothing about it.
00:11:20And I know you look, you want to see it.
00:11:22I do.
00:11:23Oh, they actually caught that?
00:11:24What's going on?
00:11:25What?
00:11:26We're making sure the, uh, the light was on.
00:11:31We're making sure the pipes were working.
00:11:35You've shown me that, like, you were interested.
00:11:37You, like, you gave me the eyes.
00:11:37I told you.
00:11:38Like, yeah, I mean.
00:11:38You told me.
00:11:39You said.
00:11:39I like you, and only you.
00:11:41Hi.
00:11:42I appreciate that.
00:11:43Yes.
00:11:44I love you.
00:11:45I love your spirit.
00:11:46That's what I'm saying.
00:11:46That's why I think this one-on-one time was super essential, because I know you have a lot to
00:11:50offer.
00:11:51You know, I have been picking up on, you know, small players.
00:11:54And being overly available.
00:11:58I'm ready to, you know, let Ashley be single as well as me.
00:12:03I would leave single with Ash.
00:12:08Because I'm fighting for love in two different places.
00:12:12It's because I still love Ashley because I care about her.
00:12:16I've dedicated my emotions, my thoughts to you since day one.
00:12:21To hear you even say what you said this morning.
00:12:25That was me protecting Ashley.
00:12:27I'm done with that.
00:12:27I need to be with you.
00:12:29I love you.
00:12:31You know what I'm saying?
00:12:33I care about you so much.
00:12:35I want to be optimistic.
00:12:37But I'm not going to lie.
00:12:39Like, I'm scared as shit.
00:12:40I would like to leave with you if you would like to leave with me.
00:12:45Of course.
00:12:47Of course.
00:12:50I'm so proud of you.
00:12:53All right.
00:12:55We need to talk.
00:12:56What happened after the island with you two?
00:12:58A month after we left the island, I went to go visit her in California.
00:13:00We had a good time.
00:13:01It's been on three or four days.
00:13:03But the chemistry wasn't the same as it was on the island.
00:13:05So it's kind of like we hit, we both hit reality.
00:13:07It was like, man, we really don't know each other that well.
00:13:09You know, right now we're just cool.
00:13:12We're cool right now.
00:13:13We're cool right now.
00:13:15Yeah, we're friends.
00:13:16Yeah, we're friends.
00:13:16That's good.
00:13:17I'm not cool right now.
00:13:19Why are you not cool?
00:13:20He has a lot of questions.
00:13:21Do you want to be the truth?
00:13:22Yes.
00:13:23The truth of why I'm not cool right now is that the whole thing watching you two scared me.
00:13:28Scared me too?
00:13:28I'm going to tell you why.
00:13:30When somebody declares their love for someone.
00:13:33That's absolute.
00:13:35That's a declaration.
00:13:37Yeah.
00:13:37Right?
00:13:38Trace, how did this roller coaster feel?
00:13:41Like, you're cool right now.
00:13:42And I hope that you are, and I'm glad.
00:13:44But how do you really feel?
00:13:45It honestly f***ed with my head more.
00:13:48Initially, like, the up and down was hard for me because I'm not a vulnerable person.
00:13:55Like, I'm not.
00:13:56Like, seeing myself cry and stuff is like only so many people have ever seen me cry in my life.
00:14:01I see your strength, and I see you holding yourself there for safety reasons, too.
00:14:05Yeah, and, you know, I have to be on guard.
00:14:07I've always had to be on guard.
00:14:08Of course.
00:14:08Um, you know, guys are pretty shitty.
00:14:10So I've always kind of assumed you only want one thing.
00:14:14And they dated for seven years.
00:14:15Would I expect him to just be like, oh, she never existed?
00:14:19No.
00:14:20Because, I mean, like, that's not respectful for you.
00:14:22Like, that's not.
00:14:22And I don't think he ever disregarded you.
00:14:25But at the same time, like, we had our own emotions going on, and we've both been through a lot.
00:14:30So it was like when I confided in him and would tell him about my traumas of the past and,
00:14:35you know, my family and things like that.
00:14:37And, you know, he really understood me, and we had these deep conversations.
00:14:41And then the next day, be like, but I think I'm going to leave single with Ash.
00:14:45Ashley, sorry.
00:14:46And I was just like, well, that doesn't make sense.
00:14:49Can I address the love you think?
00:14:51Please, please.
00:14:51Yeah, because I really, it's very long.
00:14:52Obviously, I'm stuck on this more than anybody else.
00:14:54The guys are like, what the f***?
00:14:55Of course, of course.
00:14:57They want to hear the story.
00:14:58You know, Trace and I were a lot of ups and downs, right?
00:15:01I was like, okay, she keeps running away because I haven't been consistent with my word.
00:15:04I've been backtracking because, you know, I was still thinking about you.
00:15:07But I was thinking subconsciously, I was like, all right, I need something to solidify what we have so she
00:15:11doesn't have to guess what we have.
00:15:14And you thought that was it?
00:15:15No, this wasn't me thinking.
00:15:16Because when I said it, I was like, oh, s***, I said it.
00:15:19I even had that recognition in the morning.
00:15:20I said, s***, I said I love you.
00:15:22Obviously, I have love for you, but I think it's way too soon, and now I put the pressure on
00:15:26you for you to say, I love you, too.
00:15:28And even in that clip when you said, I love you, too, it was kind of like a, oops.
00:15:31That's a knee jerk, right?
00:15:32Yeah.
00:15:33And so I felt bad.
00:15:34I was like, damn, I put all this pressure.
00:15:35And it wasn't like I planned it.
00:15:36I didn't want to say it.
00:15:38I remember saying it.
00:15:39I was like, but I remember, s***, I have to own it, and I'm going to continue building a relationship
00:15:43until it becomes real.
00:15:45So I kept saying.
00:15:45I heard that you told Ashley you loved her, like, four weeks ago.
00:15:49Is that true?
00:15:50Yes.
00:15:50I told her.
00:15:51So why do you keep flipping back and forth?
00:15:53If you're going to say that to Trace, and then say four weeks ago you told her you love her
00:15:56again?
00:15:57Yeah.
00:15:57Like, where are you at?
00:15:58Like, where are you guys at?
00:16:00I'm confused, man.
00:16:01Well, it was, the last time we spoke was like four or five weeks ago.
00:16:05He asked me, do I still have him in my mind?
00:16:09And I said, absolutely not.
00:16:11Then that's when he told me, I still love you, I'm still in love with you.
00:16:14But four weeks ago, he told Trace you love her.
00:16:18Doesn't add up, like, what do you want?
00:16:22And that's coming from.
00:16:23I'm sorry.
00:16:28Like, I care for you.
00:16:30I want you to have the best.
00:16:34I just wish you just saw the truth and you actually learned something about yourself.
00:16:43What was your intention or context of that message to her?
00:16:46And be honest.
00:16:47And be honest.
00:16:48No, of course.
00:16:49You know how I am.
00:16:49Like, I'm good.
00:16:50I'm Gucci over here.
00:16:53That happened when Ashley started talking a little more serious with a guy.
00:16:58And I got a clue.
00:17:00And I feel like, damn, and now I know what she felt like when I was having those experiences with
00:17:05Trace.
00:17:06Wait, so did you feel the need to come back into her life to try to mess that up?
00:17:11I took Ashley for granted.
00:17:12And I told you this on our conversation.
00:17:14I said, I didn't appreciate all the things that she did for me and what we had.
00:17:18I paused, like, three or four different times in a long explanation.
00:17:21But that just says, I still love you.
00:17:25You know?
00:17:25It's not, like, your definition of the I love you.
00:17:29It's the lack of consideration that you have for the women you're saying I love you to.
00:17:32And the effect that that has on them.
00:17:34No, of course.
00:17:35No, no.
00:17:35And this is what I want to say.
00:17:36I want to say I emotionally...
00:17:37But it's like, like, just maybe listen instead of, like, responding right away with what you want to say and
00:17:43how you feel.
00:17:44Maybe sometimes it's better just to listen and absorb things to really learn the lesson.
00:17:48Not listen to respond.
00:17:50I thought I was a great listener.
00:17:52Because you always have an answer or because you're actually listening?
00:17:55No, I thought I was a fantastic listener.
00:17:58What Jillian just said that you didn't hear because you responded is that there's a definition of love that we
00:18:04don't throw around.
00:18:04It's nuclear.
00:18:06Dangerous.
00:18:06Ashley, so much here.
00:18:08And yet you're sitting here listening.
00:18:09How do you feel about this?
00:18:10What are you processing right now?
00:18:12I don't know.
00:18:12I'm lost of words.
00:18:13Because to me, it doesn't make sense how he acted the way he acted.
00:18:17I did work on myself.
00:18:18I helped discover myself.
00:18:19But then I also said, okay, what's an added-on mission?
00:18:22Okay, to find someone else.
00:18:23But it feels like, whether you knew it or not, you were afraid to lose something that you saw was
00:18:28great,
00:18:28but you wanted to make sure you didn't let this one off the hook at the same time.
00:18:32Yeah.
00:18:33Trey said you wanted your cake and eat it too.
00:18:35And that's exactly, that's me.
00:18:37I wanted both.
00:18:37And you can't have both.
00:18:39I don't see the growth.
00:18:40Can you show me what have you learned?
00:18:42Yeah.
00:18:43I got in touch with my emotional side.
00:18:44I even told Mark.
00:18:45I said, Mark, I think I found out why I don't cry.
00:18:47And it has to do with the thought of losing something, the thought of end of process.
00:18:51And I said, the first reason why I cried was the thought of losing you.
00:18:54And then I thought about how I almost lost my dad.
00:18:56So I got a lot from this whole situation.
00:18:58So I grew.
00:18:59Unfortunately, you haven't seen it.
00:19:01By no trace, you saw it in real time.
00:19:05Alexa, you were part of LaSalle's journey.
00:19:08Do you have anything you want to add to enlighten this?
00:19:11Was I annoying?
00:19:12Yes.
00:19:13Were there things that you did and said that misled me that weren't shown?
00:19:17Yes.
00:19:18We're friends now.
00:19:19We can laugh about it.
00:19:20But we also hooked up in October.
00:19:24What?
00:19:25And that...
00:19:26Define that, please.
00:19:27Define that, please.
00:19:29Oosh.
00:19:31What?
00:19:45Alexa, you were part of LaSalle's journey.
00:19:48Do you have anything you want to add to enlighten this?
00:19:51We hooked up in October.
00:19:53What?
00:19:54And...
00:19:55Define that, please.
00:19:56Define that, please.
00:19:58We're at a club with a few of the cast members.
00:20:00And we're dancing.
00:20:02You're like, I really want to kiss you right now.
00:20:03But is anyone looking?
00:20:05Can anyone see us?
00:20:06Is this going to get brought up?
00:20:07What?
00:20:08I said that?
00:20:09Did he say that?
00:20:10Yes.
00:20:10You literally said...
00:20:11No, you literally said...
00:20:12LaSalle's.
00:20:12No, no, no, no.
00:20:13Stop.
00:20:13No, because...
00:20:14Stop making me all crazy.
00:20:15No, you said this to me.
00:20:16That's a lie.
00:20:17You literally said...
00:20:18That is not a lie.
00:20:18I was there, too.
00:20:18You literally said, I want to kiss you.
00:20:20I said, no, because I'm talking to Trace, and that's not appropriate.
00:20:22I looked at you, and I said, are you and Trace a thing?
00:20:25You said, no.
00:20:26That's a lie.
00:20:27Why would I make that up?
00:20:28I said, I'm still talking to Trace.
00:20:31No, you said, we are not talking, because I was at a seven-year relationship before,
00:20:35and I wasn't trying to get another one.
00:20:36And I said, that's exactly what I told you on the show.
00:20:38So you were like, is this going to get brought up on the reunion?
00:20:40And I go, I'm not no secret.
00:20:42And you're like, you're right.
00:20:43And then we made out.
00:20:44Man, you were really just lying.
00:20:45So did you kiss her, or did you not kiss her?
00:20:47Yes.
00:20:47She...
00:20:48You kissed me.
00:20:49You kissed me.
00:20:50Oh, whoa.
00:20:50Yes, she kissed me.
00:20:52Yes, she kissed me.
00:20:53That's it, bro.
00:20:53Don't get it.
00:20:55It doesn't matter.
00:20:56If the sky was blue, the floor was yellow.
00:20:58If you kissed her, you kissed her.
00:21:00Since I made this up, and I was all over him, he also made out with Meg that night.
00:21:04Oh, my God.
00:21:04Did you or did you not?
00:21:06You both literally asked me, I want to kiss you so bad right now.
00:21:10It doesn't matter.
00:21:10I said, stop.
00:21:12Get off your eye heart.
00:21:12I resisted the...
00:21:14The answer is yes.
00:21:15Yes, I was under the influence.
00:21:16I was literally under the influence, and I said, you know what, fine.
00:21:18So you kissed both of them that night.
00:21:19You literally were like, can anyone see that?
00:21:21Yes, I did.
00:21:22Yes, I understand.
00:21:23I'm in the wrong.
00:21:24Of course I'm in the wrong.
00:21:24How do you go for me to Trace to Alexa and Megan in a matter of two months after what
00:21:30happened?
00:21:31Like, who are you?
00:21:34Trace, you're still in this, and this is a bomb that just got dropped.
00:21:37Yeah, I had no idea.
00:21:38So tell me what you're feeling.
00:21:39I'm honestly just, like, disgusted by it.
00:21:41Like he said, we haven't been talking much because we've kind of just been giving each
00:21:45other space.
00:21:45Um, however, he was so like, no, Trace, I'm about you.
00:21:50Forget Alexa, and I'm going to make everyone say no.
00:21:52I'm with Trace.
00:21:53Oh, Megan's just clinging on to me, and I don't know why she's around me all the time.
00:21:57But then you made out with them?
00:21:58That doesn't make any sense.
00:21:59There's an issue with the context.
00:22:01I was keeping it cool.
00:22:02Obviously, I was drinking.
00:22:03We were having a good time.
00:22:03You talked in my ear, like, for like 10 minutes, and I was listening to everything you said,
00:22:07and you're obviously getting really close to my face, and then you said, I really
00:22:10want to kiss you right now.
00:22:11And I said, chill.
00:22:11I shouldn't be doing this.
00:22:12But she's been tempting since the second we walked in the house.
00:22:16But you know her energy.
00:22:17Well, I think she's been tempting since the-
00:22:18Don't try to make like she's such a whore, bro.
00:22:21What?
00:22:21No.
00:22:22No, she said, he kissed me.
00:22:23When someone says, I kissed you, it shows like I'm showing that-
00:22:27Your tongue was in her mouth, bro.
00:22:28No, she didn't force you to kiss her.
00:22:30He's like 6'2", I'm 5'2".
00:22:33If he's going to kiss me, he's going to kiss me.
00:22:35Oh, that's fast.
00:22:36Let me just clarify that.
00:22:36Let me just think about that.
00:22:37That's how big fuck you.
00:22:38So, I can't jump and just fly to him.
00:22:41Like-
00:22:42I'm like shaking because I'm so pissed.
00:22:45And you know how I am.
00:22:46Is there an explanation for it?
00:22:47You were just drunk.
00:22:47We're just blaming everything on alcohol.
00:22:49You said, I love you on alcohol.
00:22:50You kissed girls on alcohol.
00:22:52What else?
00:22:52Everything I say is going to be used against you, so I'd rather not talk.
00:22:54The party was before November, right?
00:22:56Yeah.
00:22:57It was before.
00:22:57It was before I saw you.
00:22:58Oh, so you kissed them first and then you came and visited me.
00:23:00Yes.
00:23:00Oh.
00:23:01Oh my God.
00:23:02Trace, I want to say that everyone here and everyone watching sees your value and I don't
00:23:10want you for a moment to internalize this as anything you did or own because you get
00:23:16to have everything you know you deserve and I'm going to bet that it's literally moments
00:23:24away from happening for you and I can't wait to be at that celebration.
00:23:30Okay, LaSelles, anything you want to say before we're done?
00:23:33Yeah.
00:23:34Uh, Alexa, I can never trust you again.
00:23:37Because, no, no, no.
00:23:38Oh, no, no, no.
00:23:39No, no, no, no.
00:23:41Let me reprioritize.
00:23:42Let me reprioritize.
00:23:43I apologize once again because I didn't tell you the truth based on the trust that I thought
00:23:48that Alexa and I had because-
00:23:50But even if you guys had trust, that's a secret.
00:23:52It's a secret.
00:23:53You told me not to say anything.
00:23:55Time out.
00:23:55That's not trust.
00:23:58That's conspiring to keep a secret.
00:24:00We can crunch this all day long, but we're not going to get any closer to feeling good
00:24:05about it.
00:24:06This literally just clarified everything.
00:24:08Like, you are so disgusting.
00:24:12And now, never, I'm never going back to you.
00:24:16That's it.
00:24:17Over.
00:24:18I'm enjoying my new life as a beautiful single woman, and now I get to continue with the
00:24:23guy I'm talking to.
00:24:25Yes.
00:24:27All right, you guys can head back to your seat.
00:24:29We're going to keep things moving and say hello to our next couple.
00:24:32Jillian and Edgar, you guys can join me right here.
00:24:34Let's give them some love.
00:24:35He looks really sad.
00:24:37I feel bad for him.
00:24:39Jillian, you brought Edgar to the island to figure out if you should be single in your
00:24:43early 20s or not.
00:24:44Edgar, you came to the island ready to marry Jillian.
00:24:47Mm-hmm.
00:24:48But after the first bonfire, Edgar felt that Jillian was throwing the relationship away
00:24:53as she began to enjoy her newfound independence.
00:24:55Let's take a look.
00:24:58This one is my promise ring with Edgar.
00:25:01Okay.
00:25:02Which I really haven't thought about until just this moment.
00:25:06Like, I don't know if I will continue wearing the promise ring.
00:25:15So, Tommy kissed me and I enjoyed the kiss.
00:25:28I love that.
00:25:29You like it?
00:25:30A lot.
00:25:31Okay.
00:25:41Like what?
00:25:42I love you, but I'm going to leave alone.
00:25:45Going to make the same choice?
00:25:47Can I give you a kiss on the forehead?
00:25:49No.
00:25:50Sorry.
00:25:51That's okay.
00:25:54I guess we'll talk when we talk.
00:25:57You two left the island separately.
00:26:01What was life like when you got home?
00:26:03When I left, I felt completely destroyed.
00:26:06You know, I've been trying to forgive myself.
00:26:09What did you feel like you needed to forgive yourself for?
00:26:13For the fact that I cheated on Jillian.
00:26:15And the fact that I've lied.
00:26:17Twice.
00:26:18Twice.
00:26:19One of the biggest reasons we came to the island is that this can of worms was opened when Edgar
00:26:25had sex with another woman at one year.
00:26:28And it's very, very painful for me because I had to watch him have sex with someone who was not
00:26:35me.
00:26:36Honestly, I just, like, you were my first love.
00:26:40And you took that away from me after only one year.
00:26:46And I am, I'm sorry, but I am so upset.
00:26:49And then I wanted to recover from that.
00:26:52So I stuck around for another two years.
00:26:54And we went to therapy.
00:26:55And we did all the things.
00:26:57And then we came here.
00:26:59And that was the last, last straw.
00:27:02Like, damn, he's like a beaten dog right now.
00:27:04I know.
00:27:04There's so many other things that could have happened.
00:27:06You broke me all that time ago.
00:27:09And now you just did it again.
00:27:11And you had the opportunity to come here and work on your insecurities.
00:27:15And instead of working on your insecurities, you fell into the arms of another woman.
00:27:18I agree with you.
00:27:20You can't keep hurting girls like this.
00:27:22Because, honestly, the same things he did with you, he did with me.
00:27:26Like, when I saw your overnight date, that was the most painful thing I've ever been through.
00:27:31The same words, you call her the same nicknames, you call her your queen, your princess, you call her all
00:27:36these things.
00:27:36That's the words you called me.
00:27:38And I know my stuff was going on with Tommy, but it's like, I just wanted to believe so badly
00:27:43that my first love, like, wouldn't end that way.
00:27:47And I saw a lot of hope for us because I was really, really in love with you.
00:27:52Um, like, um.
00:27:55I was in love with you, too.
00:27:57I know.
00:27:58But you cheated on me.
00:28:01That's not what you do when you love somebody.
00:28:03I know.
00:28:05I feel so bad.
00:28:06He's just a good dude.
00:28:07He is a good dude.
00:28:08I feel so bad.
00:28:08Yeah, so do I.
00:28:09No, yeah, hold on.
00:28:10We did the same shit.
00:28:11First.
00:28:12First.
00:28:13First.
00:28:13Yeah.
00:28:14No, I agree.
00:28:14That's the issue.
00:28:15Edgar, you found an instant connection with Marissa, uh, but you held back.
00:28:20Then, when Jillian seemed to be moving on, you decided to go for it and explore that connection with Marissa.
00:28:26Let's take a look.
00:28:29Hi, guys.
00:28:30My name's Marissa, and I'm 26 years old.
00:28:32I'm a real estate agent from North Carolina.
00:28:34I'm used to making offers that people just can't refuse.
00:28:38All right, calm down.
00:28:39I'm sweating, aren't I?
00:28:40Yeah, it looks hot.
00:28:42I look sweating, looks hot.
00:28:43Look at that.
00:28:50Knowing how much I love Jillian, I am very thrown by the connection I'm making with Marissa.
00:28:58It scares the shit out of me.
00:28:59I'm nervous.
00:29:00Okay.
00:29:00Not because you make me nervous, but because I'm nervous about the way I feel about you.
00:29:12He was giving me a lap dance and looking into, like, not just my eyes, but, like, my soul.
00:29:21Oh, I'm happy with what I saw and what I just experienced.
00:29:25I feel like I've known you before.
00:29:27I hope that we can still continue.
00:29:31I would love to.
00:29:32Okay.
00:29:36You know where to find me.
00:29:39I feel so lucky and blessed to get to know you, to be able to share moments with you and
00:29:44experiences that are once in a lifetime.
00:29:52I have so much love for you.
00:29:55I feel the same way.
00:29:59I've just never met a man ever like you in my life.
00:30:07I would like to leave the island with you.
00:30:09Really?
00:30:10I would love to.
00:30:11I've never met anyone in my life like this man here.
00:30:15He's just been so patient.
00:30:24Tell me what you're feeling.
00:30:27It was just a really great experience with you.
00:30:31And, like, Edgar was just so good to me.
00:30:34And, you know, it just sucks that it's over.
00:30:37That's all.
00:30:39He's very good at making women feel very special.
00:30:41Yeah.
00:30:42Yeah.
00:30:42Well, I mean, not even just that.
00:30:43He's a great guy.
00:30:44I'm just sad because, like, once we left the island, like, it's done.
00:30:49That's all.
00:30:50Is it done?
00:30:52I mean, I'd love to see you again, but, you know, it's not going to be real.
00:30:57Right?
00:30:59I just know I can't handle a relationship right now.
00:31:02And I understand.
00:31:03Marissa does mean a lot to me.
00:31:04I just, you never got to tell me.
00:31:05I know.
00:31:06You never, like, straight up told me.
00:31:07I feel like, I don't know, like, you led me on in a way.
00:31:11And I'm sorry for that because I also, like, I, you know, mentally I was like, yes, I can
00:31:16let go of Jillian, but emotionally I hadn't yet.
00:31:19No, I understand.
00:31:21Like, it was a lot.
00:31:22I just, like, I think when I got home, like, it just hit me that, like, I didn't have you
00:31:27anymore.
00:31:27Were you guys communicating after the island?
00:31:29Yeah.
00:31:30I mean, we talked a lot.
00:31:32On and off.
00:31:33I think there's a lot of merit to having space between relationships to get your head
00:31:39right.
00:31:39Um, is there in time at some time a future or is this done, you and Marissa?
00:31:50Tell me.
00:31:51I.
00:32:20I do think it might have been more beneficial for me to maybe not latch on to somebody so
00:32:27fast.
00:32:28It almost was like, you know, not to say relationship hopping, but, like, I didn't give myself that
00:32:33time to breathe and process things that I then experienced leaving the island.
00:32:38And I know right now that I do feel things deeply.
00:32:41And if I get into a relationship, I don't want to f**k up again.
00:32:45I want to make sure that I've worked on myself enough that nothing is ever repeated.
00:32:50You know, I will always care for you, but it just kind of, like, sucks because you picked
00:32:54me to leave with you.
00:32:56You know, we talk, we've been talking, but, like, I just never really got to say, like,
00:33:01like, I got hurt, too.
00:33:03And I'm sorry for that because I thought that I could embrace the situation.
00:33:07I did fully embrace it, but I also hadn't dealt with the feelings that I, you know, mentally
00:33:13I was like, yes, I can let go of Jillian, but emotionally I, I hadn't yet.
00:33:20Now, Jillian and Edgar, you both form connections, you with Marissa and you with Tommy, and learned
00:33:26a very valuable lesson, you don't always get what you want.
00:33:30Um, let's take a look.
00:33:34My name's Tommy, my job is to fight fires, but here on the island, I'm looking for someone
00:33:38to set my heart ablaze.
00:33:40Oh my gosh, don't tempt me.
00:33:42Oh.
00:33:43Do you think it's a red flag that I formed a connection with you right off the bat,
00:33:47even when I have a boyfriend?
00:33:48That's not a problem.
00:33:52Hey, man, what do you want?
00:33:55I'm in love.
00:33:56Whoa!
00:33:57I'm not saying that!
00:33:59Is there anything bad or a lot?
00:34:02I need to take a shower.
00:34:04Me too.
00:34:11In the future, I don't know.
00:34:12I really don't know what that holds.
00:34:15I've enjoyed my time here with you, and we're friends.
00:34:18I just can't get what I want.
00:34:25So, uh, Jillian, you ended up making a connection with Tommy, and it was fiery and romantic and
00:34:31adorable.
00:34:31What was it about, uh, Tommy that drew you to him?
00:34:35Um, I think he's just a very confident individual.
00:34:38I have usually been with guys who, like, chased after me, and he didn't do that.
00:34:42And it was very refreshing to be with a different kind of guy and realize what that brought into
00:34:47my life.
00:34:48Tommy, um, what was it like for you at the beginning there?
00:34:52Um, me and Jillian really got along, and it was a great time together, and I enjoyed our
00:34:57experience on the island.
00:34:58But you weren't necessarily catching deep feelings, or?
00:35:01I did have feelings for Jillian, obviously.
00:35:04Um, I just think there was a lot going on with her and Edgar, and for me to just jump
00:35:10into some things isn't smart for either of us.
00:35:12Mm-hmm.
00:35:13I got to enjoy that time, but I don't think it ever got to that deepness of a level.
00:35:17So there was a moment very early on where things turned for you.
00:35:22Mm-hmm.
00:35:22It may have been an incidental moment to you.
00:35:25Right.
00:35:25But it was a seminal moment for him.
00:35:28Right.
00:35:29I'm talking about the promise ring.
00:35:30Yeah.
00:35:31Um, I couldn't even really remember that moment with the promise ring because to me, it didn't
00:35:36even seem like a significant moment.
00:35:38And I'm really sorry that you felt disrespected by the way I was speaking about my ring.
00:35:42That's certainly not what I meant.
00:35:44You know, I love my ring, and I kept it on until, you know, the end, and, um...
00:35:50I also got in my head, and I think I let a lot of things get to me.
00:35:53So that one thing made me question everything.
00:35:56Right.
00:35:57Hearing you say that you saw me speaking about my ring, and then you took it and overthought
00:36:04it, it just reminds me of the same pattern that we keep talking about.
00:36:08But I didn't act out.
00:36:10Like, that happened very early on when I...
00:36:12It was the first Bond fight.
00:36:13Like, you did act out.
00:36:14No, I'm not...
00:36:14I'm...
00:36:15I...
00:36:15Hold on, Ash.
00:36:16Timeline matters.
00:36:18He didn't act out right then.
00:36:19He was hurt, and then put the brakes on anything he was doing, if I remember correctly.
00:36:23No, there was nothing going on for a very long time, because he was so hurt overseeing the
00:36:29promise ring, and we were just friends.
00:36:31Like, I was there for him.
00:36:32So, okay, take that out of the equation.
00:36:34Like, you going to that place of deep betrayal and pain based on seeing that just reminds
00:36:40me of, like, the forgetting of the three years that we spent building our lives together
00:36:46and the woman that you've known me to be.
00:36:47It just feels like a lot of blame was placed on me.
00:36:51Did you want to say something, Tommy?
00:36:53Like, the ring thing, that sucks to hear, you know?
00:36:56And then he didn't spiral right after that.
00:36:59So I think both parties did different things, and I don't think there should be any blame
00:37:04on anybody right away for anything that happened when mistakes were made on both sides.
00:37:11I just wish that he had given me a little bit more of a benefit of the doubt throughout
00:37:15our entire relationship and on the island.
00:37:17He did, though.
00:37:17He was so upset, and, like, even after the first, the second bonfire, like, nothing
00:37:21happened for a very long time.
00:37:24Like, he was thinking about you all the time.
00:37:26I'm not talking about nothing happened.
00:37:27I'm talking about the way he was reacting.
00:37:29It, like, with the ring being the first thing that I heard come from your mouth, it just sent
00:37:34me down a hole that I just, I was so confused.
00:37:41Like, did you really think that it was all a lie?
00:38:15I didn't know what to think.
00:38:16I really couldn't do it, and I wanted to do it because I loved you.
00:38:18And then the idea of marriage started going on, and, but I couldn't.
00:38:24Jillian, what did you think of seeing that when he told you that he was leaving alone and
00:38:28then he had a change of heart there?
00:38:30It was so bizarre to me, um, that you, you said you're going to leave alone, and then you, you
00:38:36changed
00:38:37your mind, and it really hurt me when we were watching the show and I heard you say that, like,
00:38:41you two were, like, best friends now.
00:38:43It just was a long three years, and we were very, very close, so, um, I really felt discarded.
00:38:49I really felt replaced.
00:38:51I just wish you had a little bit more consideration for, like, just the bond that we had.
00:38:58For a very long time, I was worried about, because, like, I've been in the situation that
00:39:03you guys have been in a long relationship and been cheated on, and, like, that is, and I told
00:39:09you that is what I was worried about was I never wanted to be disrespectful.
00:39:12We waited a long time before anything, like, got serious.
00:39:16This is not even, like, towards you, because you're single, like, you're allowed to do
00:39:20whatever you want, like, you do you, girl, like, all good.
00:39:22Then going back to the final bonfire, now seeing that he actually did end up leaving
00:39:26with you, it just feels like it didn't mean anything, um.
00:39:31I'm, I'm sorry, I did, I was not considering you towards the end, and I'm sorry about that.
00:39:36You were my best friend.
00:39:38Yeah, I, yeah.
00:39:40I have a question for you.
00:39:41If they had not had sex, and that bonfire had ended with him saying,
00:39:46I want to leave with you, what would your choice have been, and be honest?
00:39:51I would have had to, um, think really hard about if we had done the work to grow enough
00:39:58to be good partners to each other by that point, and if that answer had been yes,
00:40:02that I felt that we both grew, then maybe.
00:40:07Your young love was passionate, all-consuming, painful at times, and is there a chance that
00:40:14you both, by coming here, were in the process about growing that love?
00:40:18That was something that we talked about a lot, and I never wanted to admit it to myself,
00:40:24and I definitely never believed it in the moment, because I believed that I love you,
00:40:27and that I could work on making anything happen with you, but yeah.
00:40:32Okay.
00:40:32With that, what can you say to each other right now to kind of honor this journey you've been on?
00:40:43I am so thankful for every single second I ever spent with you,
00:40:51every single second I ever spent thinking about you.
00:40:55Things were hard, Jillian.
00:40:59I'm sorry I hurt you.
00:41:02I just wish we had more time
00:41:06before everything got ruined.
00:41:10Me too.
00:41:13I have a lot of hope for you,
00:41:17and I'll be there for you.
00:41:20As you're talking, it dawns on me how much you have served one another,
00:41:24even in all the pain.
00:41:26Edgar and Jillian, thank you for being here.
00:41:28And Tommy and Marissa, thank you.
00:41:31Stay tuned.
00:41:32There's more to unpack when we return to Temptation Island, the reunion.
00:41:36That was crazy, right?
00:41:38That's crazy.
00:41:38That's insane.
00:41:39Like, who the is that person?
00:41:41He gave me a fake phone number.
00:41:43That is true.
00:41:43Why the would you give her a fake one?
00:41:46I just got caught up in the moment
00:41:47and gave you gratification that I didn't really want to.
00:41:52Okay.
00:41:53This guy.
00:41:54Okay.
00:42:09Now, let's move things along to our next couple.
00:42:12Hanya, you had said you wanted an open relationship with Ash.
00:42:15So after you guys came to the island,
00:42:17Hanya, you had a change of heart
00:42:18while Ash was suddenly open to something new.
00:42:21Let's take a look at your journey.
00:42:24Go into this with an open heart and an open mind.
00:42:26But not too open.
00:42:28Sort of like out of sight, out of mind kind of person.
00:42:31Out of sight, out of mind.
00:42:35It must be so freeing to be able to discard people like that.
00:42:38Till you watch me while I sleep.
00:42:43I'm coming to terms with this idea of an open relationship
00:42:47maybe being something I don't want.
00:42:50Since I started dating Ash,
00:42:53I have slept with other people.
00:42:56I realized that I was only thinking of myself.
00:43:00And I'm really afraid
00:43:03that the damage has already been done.
00:43:13I hope you see those clips and I hope it hurts.
00:43:16I hope it does, Mr. Sir.
00:43:17You don't deserve her.
00:43:21It hurts a lot.
00:43:24A hell of a lot.
00:43:27Do you think people can change?
00:43:29Or change within Hanya?
00:43:31Because that's not changing.
00:43:33My idea for an open relationship
00:43:35was absolute bullshit.
00:43:38It was me trying to make excuses for my behavior.
00:43:42I have recognized the absolute depth of my love for you.
00:43:48Will you marry me, Ash?
00:43:51No.
00:43:53I'm going to leave the island by myself.
00:43:58How did you feel when he proposed?
00:44:02That was the hardest no I think I've ever had to say.
00:44:07And not because I wanted to say yes,
00:44:08but because I knew what the end of it meant.
00:44:13What were you feeling when she said no?
00:44:15That was crazy, right?
00:44:16That was crazy.
00:44:17That's insane.
00:44:18Like, who the is that person?
00:44:20Like, I couldn't even remember Ash's favorite color.
00:44:22Or her birthday.
00:44:24Oh, my God, what?
00:44:25He did not know your birthday when I asked.
00:44:27It took me half a second to get to it.
00:44:30You two didn't leave the island together.
00:44:31No.
00:44:32What happened between the two of you after you left?
00:44:35I yelled a lot.
00:44:36It's mostly just been me trying to tell him
00:44:41it's not my job to handhold him
00:44:43into learning how to be a man.
00:44:45He has women in his life.
00:44:47There are books.
00:44:48I don't have the time to raise another person.
00:44:52Amen.
00:44:54That trust that I had in him,
00:44:57which I didn't really have,
00:45:00but really wanted to be true.
00:45:04And the hope,
00:45:06just, like, it can't come back.
00:45:09Hanya, what's life been like for you
00:45:11since you got back?
00:45:12Uh, it's been really difficult, you know?
00:45:15Just being, you know, depressed
00:45:17and trying to really reflect on the things
00:45:20that I had done before, during, and after.
00:45:22I want to be a peaceful presence in people's lives,
00:45:25and if I'm going to continue
00:45:27just thinking about myself all the time
00:45:29or turning a situation on its head
00:45:30so that I benefit,
00:45:32it's not safe, you know?
00:45:33Okay.
00:45:34I think I hear you, Hanya.
00:45:36You're taking a deep look at who you are
00:45:38as it relates to women.
00:45:40Yes, but I would also add that to myself.
00:45:44My relationship with myself
00:45:45is toxic first.
00:45:48And that toxicity just oozed out
00:45:51into all the rest of my relationships.
00:45:52Okay.
00:45:53What do you want out of Ash at this point
00:45:55in your lives?
00:45:57Oh, just what she's, you know,
00:46:00been able to give me thus far, you know?
00:46:03Like, this cautious friendship
00:46:04is more than I could have asked for.
00:46:07You guys, uh,
00:46:08both have very interesting journeys on the island,
00:46:11and there were people involved in that,
00:46:12and I'd like to bring them on the couch
00:46:13so we can have a conversation about it.
00:46:15Karina and Taylor both played parts
00:46:17in both of your journeys.
00:46:18Let's take a look.
00:46:21Ah, that's so frustrating.
00:46:23I mean, you're all beautiful and attractive,
00:46:26and, like, if I wasn't so in love,
00:46:28I'd probably be a totally bone-year.
00:46:31Hey!
00:46:32Hey!
00:46:33Hey!
00:46:33Hey!
00:46:33Hey!
00:46:34I, unfortunately, danced on Hania's lap.
00:46:36I'm really sorry.
00:46:38Unfortunately? Excuse me?
00:46:38I hope that everybody really enjoyed that.
00:46:41Hania definitely did.
00:46:42I'm into it.
00:46:43What can I say?
00:46:45Karina is my girlfriend for the time being.
00:46:54You both have amazing butts.
00:46:56Let me just say, like...
00:46:57Oh!
00:46:58Hania, what the...
00:47:00What?
00:47:01Do you think I don't think your butt is amazing?
00:47:04That's literally not what this is at all.
00:47:06Do you think I don't think your body is incredible?
00:47:07It's the Hania world.
00:47:09It's the Hania world.
00:47:09This was not intentional.
00:47:10Okay.
00:47:11Okay, okay, okay.
00:47:12Oh, don't yell at her.
00:47:13I don't have the patience.
00:47:14It doesn't matter.
00:47:15I know it doesn't matter.
00:47:16And I feel embarrassed right now.
00:47:21You helped me survive this, you know?
00:47:24I wouldn't have been able to do this without you.
00:47:28So, you guys gravitated to each other, you had a connection, it was apparent.
00:47:32Karina, what was it about Hania that had you want to stay and hang out longer with him?
00:47:38I mean, he did validate me that I was very helpful to him, and I did like our conversations.
00:47:45I think more towards the end, it wasn't working so well for me.
00:47:50But, yeah, I mean, he was a friend in a foreign place.
00:47:56What happened, if anything, with you and Hania after the island?
00:48:01Would you like to answer that?
00:48:03Nothing.
00:48:04Like, absolutely nothing.
00:48:06Lay out like when Ash said, must feel so freeing to discard people.
00:48:11Yeah, I'm sure you felt discarded.
00:48:14I didn't reach out.
00:48:15I didn't reach out.
00:48:16I went directly into focusing on my own shit.
00:48:20And I'm sorry.
00:48:21I am.
00:48:22You meant so much to me on the island.
00:48:24I meant what I said.
00:48:26I wouldn't have survived without you.
00:48:28And then I just didn't reach out.
00:48:30I would also say, you didn't reach out to me.
00:48:34You know?
00:48:35Not a word.
00:48:36Okay, so neither of you reached out, but how do you feel about him not reaching out to you?
00:48:41It was really disappointing because I did give a lot of myself, like, many hours.
00:48:48So, after all of that energy and something that's supposed to be my experience, too,
00:48:54to, in the end, it, like, not matter.
00:48:58Like, it was just like, okay, well, thanks for helping me out.
00:49:01Bye.
00:49:01Like, it makes me feel used.
00:49:03Anything you say to that, Hania?
00:49:05She's absolutely right.
00:49:06I imagine you do feel used, and I'm sorry.
00:49:10I didn't mean to make you feel that way, but it's not really my intention that matters.
00:49:14It's the effect that it had on you.
00:49:16And I realize that now.
00:49:18Well, thank you for apologizing.
00:49:20There is still some unresolved feelings, for example, like, feeling degraded.
00:49:26For me and a few of the other women, like, can you think of any other apologies that might
00:49:33need to feel heard from some of the other women?
00:49:36Yeah.
00:49:37Juicy, I gave you a real hard time about all kinds of random bullshit.
00:49:41Well, like, okay, mostly it was the night of the party.
00:49:45We all saw the clip of how you were speaking to Karina.
00:49:49But, yeah, I just wanted to let you know that you can't ever speak to a woman like that.
00:49:53No, you're absolutely right.
00:49:55Okay.
00:49:56Ash, you came to the island acknowledging the need to have an open mind and an open heart,
00:50:00but with boundaries.
00:50:01However, with each passing day, those boundaries went away closer and closer to Taylor.
00:50:06Let's take a look.
00:50:09Take it off!
00:50:10Take it off!
00:50:11Take it off!
00:50:11Take it off!
00:50:12Take it off!
00:50:13Oh!
00:50:15As they say, live long and prosper.
00:50:20Alien.
00:50:21To be completely honest with you, when I was growing up, I was starved of physical touch.
00:50:26We have very similar upbringings.
00:50:29Yes.
00:50:29I was homeschooled.
00:50:30Not a lot of physical affection in my house.
00:50:33I can understand where you're coming from.
00:50:34I'm very physically attracted to Taylor.
00:50:37His body is very different from Hanya's.
00:50:46I now know and remember what it looks like to be actually wanted by somebody and not just physically.
00:50:56Can we put a name to that?
00:50:57Taylor.
00:50:57Taylor.
00:50:58I have found myself and that's where you came in.
00:51:04I feel very intensely for you.
00:51:09I care about you because you are nobody I've ever met before.
00:51:14So let's talk about in the very beginning what the attraction was for you.
00:51:19Taylor was who had given him.
00:51:21He was ridiculous.
00:51:23He was outspoken.
00:51:27He was okay with being weird.
00:51:28He was okay with being weirder for me.
00:51:33And I felt comfortable being near him.
00:51:36Like he made me feel very safe and like I could be vulnerable and open up.
00:51:41Taylor, same question for you.
00:51:42What was it initially that drew you to Ash?
00:51:46Um, you know, the experience in itself.
00:51:48You know, she was a very kind person to me.
00:51:50You know, I enjoyed knowing that I helped her in a way.
00:51:53At the time, I had a major feeling that she was going to go back to Hanya,
00:51:56which, like, as a person, I want to help people,
00:51:59and I felt like I had spent so much time and hadn't helped a single person,
00:52:03and it was very, like, disturbing to me at a point.
00:52:06I see. Were you aware of that?
00:52:08Yeah, he made sure to personally torture me
00:52:10for having feelings of insecurity about someone I had been with
00:52:14and was going through this whole journey with.
00:52:18Wow, so this took a pretty quick turn there.
00:52:21Did you guys talk after the island at all?
00:52:23He gave me a fake phone number.
00:52:25He gave you a fake phone number.
00:52:28Is that true?
00:52:29That is true.
00:52:30Why not just say, I'd rather not give you a phone number?
00:52:33Why the would you give her a fake one?
00:52:35We never had, like, hey, we're going to leave the island, we're dating,
00:52:38you know, we're falling for each other.
00:52:39And, you know, that wasn't us.
00:52:40We connected in a way of having great conversations, relations, good energy.
00:52:46But it wasn't like, you know, this is destiny.
00:52:49Let's get to the next step and run away together, you know?
00:52:52Don't act like that's the reason you're a dick.
00:52:56You're just a f***ing asshole.
00:52:58We're the same, bro.
00:53:00You know, we both took advantage of this poor person, right?
00:53:03We saw how she was vulnerable, and we made her feel bad for just being.
00:53:08I want to remind the two of you that whatever transpired, there was something that was working
00:53:15for the two of you at some point on this island.
00:53:18I know the truth.
00:53:19May I say something?
00:53:20Yeah.
00:53:21You kind of started out as, I don't want to say timid, but kind of.
00:53:26You know, like a girl who had been beaten down by someone.
00:53:28And, you know, yeah, we've all seen that side of Hanya, but you seem better.
00:53:34But, you know, by the end of it, you walked into every single room like a bad b***h, and we
00:53:39were all very proud of you.
00:53:40Oh, yeah.
00:53:41Thank you for saying what I couldn't say.
00:53:43Yeah, we were all cheering for you.
00:53:45I love you guys so much.
00:53:47And can you see what the women are saying to you is there was a level of you valuing you.
00:53:53Mm-hmm, because I got fed up with all of their s***.
00:53:56Okay, well, then that's something to be, but that serves you, too.
00:54:00Oh, yeah, I don't regret Taylor at all.
00:54:03Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:54:05But it could have been less crappy.
00:54:08I'm going to go to Alexa, who I think has something to say.
00:54:11Well, first of all, Ash, I think you deserve someone who remembers your birthday.
00:54:15You deserve someone who's not going to give you a fake number.
00:54:18You are amazing.
00:54:19I can't even tell you how, like, in awe we were of you.
00:54:22And, like, we've dealt with Hanya.
00:54:24Hanya, you said degrading things to me, too.
00:54:25Like, I can only imagine the s*** he said to you.
00:54:28You can see in the show how defeated you are, and, like, you were so much better than that.
00:54:32And, like, I'm tearing up for you.
00:54:33Like, you deserve so much better than that.
00:54:35I am only just starting to take advantage of all the lessons that I was taught, right?
00:54:42I am only just starting to learn the things that you spent so much time teaching me, right?
00:54:49And I'm just, I feel so honored, you know, that despite saying degrading things to you, Alexa,
00:54:58or not calling you, that you all still put up with me.
00:55:04First of all, Hanya, thank you.
00:55:06I see you working and trying and being as open and honest as you know how to be,
00:55:12and every day more than the day before.
00:55:14Ash, you're an inspiration to these women.
00:55:17More than I even realized that you were.
00:55:19I know what we shared, and I want you to remember what you've accomplished.
00:55:27Guys, I think this is a good place to pause.
00:55:29We'll be right back for more Temptation Island The Reunion.
00:55:43Welcome back.
00:55:44This is Temptation Island The Reunion.
00:55:47Now, Luke came to the island and learned how to express your emotions.
00:55:51Iris came to the island and realized that you needed to be the independent party girl that you are,
00:55:56but with no apologies.
00:55:57Yes.
00:55:57Let's take a look back.
00:55:59I feel like I'm doing a lot.
00:56:01I'm really trying to be the glue of the family, build a business, maintain a relationship.
00:56:06You have a lot on your plate.
00:56:07Yeah.
00:56:08I've always been, like, emotionally dependent on Luke,
00:56:10and it just clicked in me last night.
00:56:12Like, wow.
00:56:13I never really got the independence that I need to discover myself.
00:56:19I'm a fun-ass party girl, and something that I've realized in my relationship
00:56:24is that I don't have to feel apologetic for it,
00:56:27and I don't have to worry about Luke's insecurities.
00:56:31I'm happy that I can look at this clip and see Iris just, you know, have fun,
00:56:36and I'm not jealous about it either.
00:56:38I'm really proud of you.
00:56:39We're glad you're crying now.
00:56:41Being able to hug people longer, love them better, say I love you more.
00:56:46Yeah.
00:56:46These are the things that I've been lacking.
00:56:48Yeah.
00:56:48I mean, I just hope it's not too late for Iris.
00:56:53This is it.
00:56:54That's a sweet ring.
00:56:55This is it.
00:56:57I want you to be my girl forever and ever.
00:57:04Oh, my God.
00:57:05Would you make me the luckiest man in the world?
00:57:09Yes, absolutely.
00:57:18Congratulations, you two, on your engagement.
00:57:21Love that, right?
00:57:24So, you went through a lot on the island, learning how to tap into your emotions.
00:57:28How does it feel now?
00:57:29It feels good to be able to be more thoughtful and considerate towards Iris
00:57:33and really take her feelings into account.
00:57:35You know, when we go eat out and stuff, for instance, just be more generous.
00:57:39I see.
00:57:40How is he doing with all that, Iris?
00:57:41He's doing great.
00:57:43I'm, like, shocked.
00:57:44Shocked?
00:57:45Yeah, but I love it.
00:57:46Oh, good.
00:57:47Well, again, congratulations, and I'm glad to share this time with you,
00:57:50and there's more to talk about, but Paige and George were a big part of your journeys.
00:57:55It was full of sexual tension and temptation.
00:57:57So, let's take a look at that journey a little bit.
00:58:01I thought I came to Temptation Island to test Luke and see if he would cheat on me or get
00:58:06tempted.
00:58:07This is going to be goodbye, baby.
00:58:09I'm not going to see you.
00:58:10It's not goodbye.
00:58:11It's just goodbye for now.
00:58:13And now I'm realizing there were some difficult questions that I didn't want to ask myself.
00:58:18George, would you like to go on a date with me?
00:58:20Definitely.
00:58:21Okay.
00:58:22He's like a nice guy.
00:58:24So, how do you like your meet?
00:58:26I usually do medium rare, but I'm cool with it anyway.
00:58:29Now I'm like, wow, I'm actually building a connection with someone here, and it's really scary.
00:58:34He, like, embodies the qualities that I want in a future husband.
00:58:38It makes me feel guilty knowing that I'm really connecting well with somebody.
00:58:43Do you want to kind of be, like, transparent with you about something?
00:58:46Talk to me.
00:58:47As great as I think you are, I feel like exploring this deep emotional connection that we have might not
00:58:54be what's best for me right now.
00:58:56I did feel guilty about it.
00:58:58I don't understand that.
00:59:00George, were you hoping to explore that connection further?
00:59:03I definitely was.
00:59:05It kind of sucks a little bit that, you know, you pumped the brakes a little bit on our connection
00:59:09just to go back to what you felt was holding you back from your growth.
00:59:14I mean, honestly, you were such a vital part to my journey, but I wasn't just about to jump into
00:59:19something new with someone else.
00:59:21Like, I'm the type of person that believes if you're in a relationship, you need to figure it out.
00:59:26And I was still in a place in my life where I wanted to figure it out with Luke.
00:59:29So that's what I chose to do.
00:59:31And I'm glad that you were so supportive about it.
00:59:33And I just want to thank you for that.
00:59:35Definitely, definitely.
00:59:36Luke, you made a connection with Paige that was, I don't know how to say it any other way, except
00:59:41it was full of sexual tension and temptation.
00:59:44So let's take a look at that journey a little bit.
00:59:46I think you're super fun and I'm pretty attracted to you.
00:59:51I think the feeling might be mutual.
00:59:54There's some tension there.
00:59:55I will be honest, there is some tension.
00:59:58I definitely have a really good connection building with Paige.
01:00:02Now go twerk.
01:00:03Me?
01:00:03You're good.
01:00:05Oh my God.
01:00:05Are you asking me to do this?
01:00:06Wow.
01:00:06Please.
01:00:07Look at her back.
01:00:07She's hot and she's just a bottle rocket ready to die.
01:00:11Ready, baby?
01:00:12Oh my God.
01:00:20There's some turtles.
01:00:22There's some fish.
01:00:24There's some ass grabs.
01:00:28And then I texted a girl that she just absolutely hates and I was asking if I...
01:00:32Is it a girl that looks like me?
01:00:33Kind of.
01:00:36Is that what I think it is?
01:00:37No, it's not.
01:00:41Do you feel...
01:00:43It wasn't there.
01:00:44It wasn't there.
01:00:45I thought resisting temptation would be a lot more easy for me to do and I feel like
01:00:50I'm gravitating a lot towards Paige and she's showing me a lot of signs of affection and
01:00:55love.
01:00:57And I like it.
01:00:58She's really, really good at just making me feel comfortable and happy.
01:01:04No, look.
01:01:05They don't see you.
01:01:06See?
01:01:08See?
01:01:11I love when you touch me.
01:01:13It's my favorite thing.
01:01:14Like, even when you hug me, I'm like, I feel sweet kind of.
01:01:18Whoa.
01:01:18Shut up.
01:01:20I simply get to hold my penis in my pants.
01:01:24I mean, you think that for now, but I can hold your penis in my hands.
01:01:28Oh.
01:01:29Okay.
01:01:30Can we sneak in that bathroom?
01:01:33There's no chance there.
01:01:34What?
01:01:35I kept it in my pants is what I'm saying.
01:01:37I really like where I'm at with Luke.
01:01:39There is some sexual tension.
01:01:41I think this conversation made us want to f***ing help me.
01:01:47Paige, what would you have liked to have seen?
01:01:49Where did you see things going with you and Luke?
01:01:51I'm definitely a carefree person, so I'm open to wherever it would have gone, but at
01:01:55the same time, I think that it was important that we didn't fully stray from, like, what
01:01:59his end goal was.
01:02:00We had a connection.
01:02:01I mean, we cried together.
01:02:02I allowed things to happen that I shouldn't have allowed to have happen.
01:02:06It takes me looking at what really happened in that third-person perspective to see, like,
01:02:12Jesus, I look like a fool right now.
01:02:14It's disrespectful.
01:02:15So, Iris, you're seeing some things here in this clip probably for the first time.
01:02:19How does that make you feel?
01:02:20I mean, I'm fine because Luke was honest with me from the start.
01:02:23He told me, like, he was messaging Paige on Instagram.
01:02:25Um, I would like to say that Iris, I felt like he kind of was flirting with Paige and I
01:02:31in
01:02:31the house.
01:02:31Yeah.
01:02:32And so how is that different from him, you know, texting women in the past?
01:02:35Like, why are you not angry about that?
01:02:37Hold on.
01:02:38It's time to take a quick break, but don't go anywhere because there's more Temptation
01:02:41Island, The Reunion, coming up.
01:02:55I would like to say that Iris, I felt like he kind of was flirting with Paige and I in
01:03:00the house.
01:03:01Yeah.
01:03:01And so how is that different from him, you know, texting women in the past?
01:03:05Like, why are you not angry about that?
01:03:07Well, these women he's hooked up with and he has, like, history with them and emotional
01:03:11feelings for them.
01:03:13So for me, like, that's a huge no.
01:03:15Yeah.
01:03:16So the texting, it was never anything physical that he did, like cheating?
01:03:20It was just, like, texting, flirting?
01:03:21I'm pretty sure it's not.
01:03:22Like, from what he's told me, no.
01:03:24He also went behind my back to do it.
01:03:26Whereas this experience, like, I knew what was going to happen and I wanted him to get
01:03:30the full experience to realize if he wants to be with me or not.
01:03:33And I think that's the difference.
01:03:35Okay.
01:03:35Juicy, did you expect more of that connection with Luke?
01:03:38Kind of, yes.
01:03:40Because at the beginning, he told me I'm most attracted to you and we had a lot of fun on
01:03:44the date.
01:03:45So I was confused when he was like, okay, I'm actually going to take all these other women
01:03:49on dates, too.
01:03:50Luke, what do you say to that?
01:03:51I mean, honestly, I got so caught up in the experience.
01:03:54But after I heard Juicy tell me I'm really attracted to you, Luke, I just got caught up and
01:03:59said it back when honestly, I feel like I wasn't.
01:04:04Okay.
01:04:04Yeah, I'm kind of taking it back because I wasn't just thinking, I wasn't thinking about
01:04:09Iris.
01:04:10And it's as much as I was trying to do that, I just got caught up in the moment and
01:04:15gave
01:04:15you gratification that I didn't really want to.
01:04:20Okay.
01:04:20I mean, all the women in the house were chosen specifically for us.
01:04:25And you guys look great.
01:04:27And I can say that.
01:04:29You can say they're attractive.
01:04:31By the way, thank you, Iris.
01:04:33I think they look great.
01:04:35I think they look great.
01:04:36Like, I understand being very respectful of her.
01:04:38And I think instead of, like, taking it back, you can just say maybe you did find her attractive
01:04:42at the time.
01:04:42And it just didn't really work out.
01:04:44Thank you, Paige.
01:04:45Because of where you are right now.
01:04:46I could have left it at that, Juicy, with what I said.
01:04:49And then just capped it with something like, I'm not trying to take this to another level.
01:04:53You're still a great friend.
01:04:54But you're attractive.
01:04:56James, I know that you were very much a part of Iris' support system.
01:05:00Anything you want to add here?
01:05:01Iris, you were a great girl.
01:05:04But obviously, Luke, like, Iris, she's a good-looking girl, bro.
01:05:07But, you know, since day one, we could tell that she was down for you, bro.
01:05:11You shouldn't have to worry about that, bro.
01:05:13Like, she's going to handle her own.
01:05:14So why do you reach out to former flings?
01:05:16That's a good point, James.
01:05:17Yeah.
01:05:18It's just when I felt jealous, sometimes I felt like, you know,
01:05:23she's getting 20 compliments when we're walking down the street.
01:05:26And I just am not getting any of that.
01:05:29And that was one of the things I just overcame.
01:05:31And I've been able to let her go to Vegas on her own
01:05:33and other trips around the country doing her jobs.
01:05:38And...
01:05:38Like, you let her?
01:05:39She needs your permission to go places?
01:05:42Well...
01:05:42She's not her own person.
01:05:44She wanted to go do these.
01:05:45Independent.
01:05:45You don't just trust that she can go places and is not going to do shit to you.
01:05:50You have to let her.
01:05:51I'm not trying to say I'm allowing her to do these things because she's mine.
01:05:57Like, I don't own her.
01:05:58That's what letting someone do something, though,
01:06:00in regards to when you're like, I let them.
01:06:02That's what that's implying.
01:06:03What Ash is pointing out to you is none of this is an issue
01:06:06if you feel like you're enough.
01:06:08That way you're not letting her do, she's doing.
01:06:11What James is saying is that it's about you, my man.
01:06:14When you feel enough,
01:06:16then you don't have to react or make people feel better
01:06:19so that they approve.
01:06:20Iris, how are you feeling right now?
01:06:22Honestly, in the past, I feel like
01:06:23I have had to ask permission at times to do certain things.
01:06:28And it's not okay.
01:06:30Ash is flipping out because it's a trigger for her.
01:06:32I hate him.
01:06:33She knows this.
01:06:34You hate Luke.
01:06:35I don't like Luke.
01:06:36I've never liked him, and I still don't.
01:06:38He's on a shit list.
01:06:39You said I was going to fail day three and sleep with someone,
01:06:41and I didn't, so...
01:06:42I still think you probably have, and she just doesn't know.
01:06:47Has she ever cheated on you?
01:06:48Or was it just...
01:06:50Nope.
01:06:51So I think it just all stems down to you're feeling insecure
01:06:53because you have a beautiful woman,
01:06:55and you maybe didn't know how to handle that at first.
01:06:57Yeah.
01:06:57Juzi said you're insecure because you're with a beautiful woman.
01:07:00I'm going to say you're just a little insecure,
01:07:04and it's because of all the stuff we've talked about
01:07:06with your family
01:07:07and how they have discounted the things that you've done.
01:07:10You had a lot of stuff going on in your entire childhood
01:07:13that's made you feel unseen and unheard
01:07:15and unloved and unworthy,
01:07:17and now you're with this gem, right?
01:07:22And everything that's coming from you is a reaction
01:07:25out of fear that you're not enough.
01:07:29Uh, if I loved myself more, I'd be more secure then, and...
01:07:33Well, there's no one making you insecure but you.
01:07:36Your girl doesn't cheat, and she tells you she loves you.
01:07:39I mean, I just got to own it
01:07:41and be more loving to myself.
01:07:46That's enough.
01:07:48That's enough to start with.
01:07:50Right?
01:07:50Yeah.
01:07:51She's going to help you be the man that you actually are.
01:07:54Mm-hmm.
01:07:56Listen, let me just, again,
01:07:58congratulate you on your engagement.
01:07:59It was a thrill to share it with us.
01:08:02And glad to see the ring is still on your finger
01:08:04because you never know by the time you get to the reunion
01:08:05what happens.
01:08:06Yeah, right?
01:08:07Yeah.
01:08:08Have you set a date?
01:08:09We have not set a specific date,
01:08:11but we're thinking in two years.
01:08:13Okay.
01:08:13But we know where.
01:08:14It's going to be in Santorini.
01:08:16Santorini?
01:08:17Yes.
01:08:17Greece.
01:08:18Oh, so your destination, you're going big.
01:08:20Going big.
01:08:20That's pretty amazing.
01:08:21Good for you guys.
01:08:23I wish you the best on that.
01:08:25Paige and George, thank you.
01:08:27I appreciate it.
01:08:28Okay.
01:08:29I love you guys.
01:08:30Thank you all.
01:08:31We love you, Mark.
01:08:31That's all the time we have.
01:08:33I just want to thank all of you
01:08:34for your openness and your willingness.
01:08:37And really, we thank you for watching
01:08:39and making this another incredible season.
01:08:41Can't wait to see you again.
01:08:43Mahalo.
01:08:43Good night.
01:08:46That's a wrap to a good season.
01:08:48Hey!
01:08:48Good night.
01:08:49All right.
01:08:502230.
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