00:00Some analysts have been quoted as saying that this idea of bringing the Abraham Accords into
00:05this peace deal with Iran was somehow to pacify Israel. And someone we sometimes speak to is
00:10Yossi Mekkelberg, who is a Middle East expert at Chatham House in London. He said this,
00:16that the Abraham Accords idea was, quote, no more than a sweetener for Israel,
00:20and it most likely won't happen. It sounds like you'd agree with that. But what do you make of
00:26this idea of trying to pacify Israel? Why should President Trump feel like he has to pacify Israel?
00:32I don't think he does. And I don't think that that's really the goal. I think, again,
00:38I think that the challenge that the United States has, that President Trump has, is that our goals
00:44in the region are very different from Israel's goals. We're not at risk. Iran doesn't pose a
00:50direct threat to the United States. It does pose a direct threat to Israel. And with its proxies like
00:58Hezbollah, Hamas, and others, it's a challenge that Israel is going to meet, at least it's determined
01:05to meet, at all costs. So we have to work within that rubric, given the fact that we have a
01:15different
01:15set of goals. And in Saudi Arabia, one of the things that I think is very possible is that Saudi
01:23Arabia, the UAE, and other countries in the region do have military capability. They do have military
01:32technology that can protect them to a greater extent than ever before. And I think they ought
01:37to be prepared to use it.
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