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POP FAMILY PODCAST: Too Connected, Too Exposed? The Teen Social Media Dilemma
Are teens below 16 really mature enough to handle the pressures, risks, and realities of social media?
This episode of Pop Family Podcast explores how social media is shaping teenage identity, emotions, relationships, and mental wellbeing in today’s always-online world.
Hosted by Nina Nadira, the conversation features clinical psychologist Alyssa Suraya Ahmad Farouk Faizi alongside Audrey Ooi and Shahrul Muhammad Shahrul Azlan, unpacking the realities, risks, and challenges of raising teens in a generation growing up fully connected online.
Are teens below 16 really mature enough to handle the pressures, risks, and realities of social media?
This episode of Pop Family Podcast explores how social media is shaping teenage identity, emotions, relationships, and mental wellbeing in today’s always-online world.
Hosted by Nina Nadira, the conversation features clinical psychologist Alyssa Suraya Ahmad Farouk Faizi alongside Audrey Ooi and Shahrul Muhammad Shahrul Azlan, unpacking the realities, risks, and challenges of raising teens in a generation growing up fully connected online.
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00:00it's also true that like you don't want them to feel left out yeah but at the same time i
00:04feel
00:04that them having too much screen time not just social media but screen time is way worth
00:23hello assalamualaikum welcome back with another episode of pop family podcast saya nina nadira
00:28and today we are going to talk about how social media is not just a part of teenage life but
00:36is
00:36the world that they're growing up into right so it shapes them how they think how they connect
00:42how they build their personality and more and more they learn how to handle pressure
00:48they learn how to deal with stress and comparison tapi kita ada besides all this creativity
00:56this trends and this connection kita ada dark side of social media among uh teenagers right
01:03so we have um cyber bullying online manipulation scam and sekarang ni kita ada ai generated content
01:11where it can um mislead harp and also exploit and other case-case uh seperti sebelum ni
01:19ada seorang remaja uh perempuan dia mengalami um emotional distress uh sebab dia post an online
01:30a poll on instagram pasal kehidupan dia whether she should proceed on her life or not
01:35so today dekat pop family podcast we bring in three perspective to talk about this issue
01:41we have a psychologist and two parents to share with us um about um cyber bullying uh teenage
01:49mental health and how dangerous social media can be uh especially when someone is emotionally
01:56vulnerable so um tapi yang lebih membimbangkan ya kadang-kadang benda-benda ni berlaku di belakang
02:03uh pengetahuan seorang dewasa kita ada private chats group whatsapps um discord threads anonymous
02:11platforms and also hidden online communities so i would like to welcome our guests for today
02:16uh we have psychology uh a psychologist pakar psychology clinical daripada msu medical center
02:23alisa soraya hello everyone hello kita ada audrey oy uh fondly known as four feet nine on instagram
02:32uh dengan content content uh parenting dia and we also have wamat syarul azlan yang juga dikenali
02:39sebagai deksha but we panggil syarul hari ini boleh boleh how are you guys everyone good good
02:45semua dah makan kita dah ready nak uh sembang okay so um let's start with uh alisa uh we want
02:54to talk
02:54about social media it's a big part of teenage life right now how should we understand the role it
03:02plays in their daily lives so for social media of course with teenagers and children it's like a
03:08big part but it shouldn't be the whole part of it so it should just be one part so there
03:13should be
03:14balance because that's when the risk comes in when it's a whole big part of your kind of like life
03:20where they just focus on that so we want balance so what we can understand is that they use social
03:25media to kind of like stay connected with friends to socialize to kind of like express themselves to
03:32build themselves and to have like a community right but the dark side of it is that there's no ending
03:39so last time when you go home from school if you get kind of like teas or something you go
03:45home and you
03:46are safe but now it's just online it's like forever so i think because they are developing
03:53so it's like when it's constant so they also don't have the like maturity or cognitive capabilities
04:01to handle that as an adult and also uh the data from the usm to 2025 last year shows that
04:08over 60
04:09of children now own their own devices and spend hours spend hours and hours on uh with their phones
04:17right uh for teens teenagers below 16 are they really able to understand and process everything
04:24they see online so developmentally not fully they're not able to fully process because the
04:30prefrontal cortex the brain that kind of like um for emotional regulation impulse control decision
04:37making planning it reaches maturity in the mid-20s so then when they are exposed to this all the time
04:44so
04:45it's not saying that they're not capable they are but also of course they need scaffolding so they
04:50need help so guidance so not just to like leave them on their own and just to kind of like
04:56navigate
04:57through social media alone because then that's going to be like risk for it i mean it's at the age
05:02of 16
05:03it's like in between maturity and also belum besar lagi lah i would say right and also we have this
05:10talk
05:10about restrictions uh umur 16 tahun ke atas sahaja we can use uh social media maybe we can have a
05:17opinion from uh charol first apa pendapat you tentang uh seorang remaja 16 tahun ke atas perlu
05:25ada restriction ke ataupun tidak hmm okay macam i sendiri uh anak i sendiri anak i baru 12 tahun
05:33ni hmm so i memang anak i memang ada media sosial okay dia ada tiktok dia ada instagram so bagi
05:39i
05:40hmm kita perlu maawasil lah apa benda pun media sosial ni pantau lah kalau you tak bagi macam kita
05:47ada macam uh rule untuk oh 16 tahun je yang you boleh ada media sosial tapi bila selepas ini uh
05:53ini
05:53pendapat i ya ya bila uh selepas you berumur 16 tahun baru you ada media sosial baru you tahu kenal
05:59erti aa dunia media sosial pun bahaya juga sebenarnya bagi i so macam anak i aa daripada awal
06:06hmm dulu aa sekejap aa media sosial tak boleh aa so dia kena aa register atas nama parents
06:13haa melalui you lah so masa dulu mula-mula dulu tak ada so dia macam okey dia buat tu semua
06:18kan tapi
06:18bila sekarang aa true i kena register my name semua aa penjaga semua lepas tu aa benda tu macam kita
06:26control sebab kita tahu kita akan aa tau aa dorang kena belajar juga kadang-kadang kita tak boleh nak
06:32control benda ni i don't know about you audrey sometimes because we see contoh-contoh
06:37our kids right oh all their friends are having all this social media tapi you don't have your kids
06:43don't have so they might feel a bit left out or like how do you deal with that yeah i'm
06:48i'm i'm actually
06:49going through that right now yeah uh my son is 13 so i also told him the same thing um
06:54no social media
06:55until after you're 16 and i just set the age 16 at that point because this was like a few
07:00years ago
07:00before the talk about this band came out i just said it because i thought i was like okay la
07:05i just
07:05set a number i don't know what the number is but i just said it at 16 and that time
07:10he was okay but
07:11right now he's 13 and most of his friends are on social media their instagram yeah yeah so he's been
07:17asking uh he he feels left out la because okay all his friends the harder now i talk to them
07:24like why can't i have friends are talking are talking they are like on dms with each other
07:28but he's not there yeah so how do you handle that like um how do you explain to them about
07:35this current situation yang maybe some parents allow it some parents yeah a bit strict yeah so so um
07:42we did have this talk like a few years ago and that time he was like totally okay to not
07:48be on
07:48social media but sekarang is because everyone is on it right so he feels the peer pressure um and he
07:54is
07:55so i i don't have an answer to be honest so i asked him back as it i these are
07:59all my worries about you
08:00being on social media um i'm worried about you getting addicted i'm worried about cyber bullying i'm worried
08:06about you seeing stuff that you're not supposed to see yet yeah at this age and like you that you
08:11cannot
08:12handle then i asked him what would you do if you were me like can you tell me how i
08:16can help you
08:17help help support you with that and then he was like stuck so it's kind of like stop there right
08:23now
08:23and i think it's an ongoing process like we still keep we need to be talking to them you know
08:29it's not
08:29just like set one for me it's not just one set one fixed rule yeah just go with it but
08:34i feel like
08:35it has to be a discussion like a family discussion for example your your kids are already 16 and they're
08:40ready to have their social media yeah what is it that you need to prepare at the point what are
08:46the conversations that you will be having with them um first of all i feel it's very important to
08:54have a relationship with them that they feel safe enough to come to us yeah yeah like like that they
09:02don't feel that you know if they come to us i'm going to punish them because the whole point of
09:07that is that i i just
09:08need to make sure that they feel comfortable enough to come to me even if there's something that i might
09:13not be happy about yeah i think that's the most important more than just like you know the conversations
09:17but again um like we do have conversations about like whenever we see news like you know when there's
09:23cyber bullying case coming up or like like sometimes there's suicides and like involving yeah
09:30teenagers you know there's also those like grooming kind of cases that's very scary for me because i also
09:35have a daughter right yeah yeah so like like we we do have this conversation so i want to make
09:41sure that
09:41they are aware of these things that there are this risk that you take when you go on social media
09:47as a
09:47child yeah okay sharon you can share with us what are the conversations that you have
09:53with your child especially uh about social media you want to give them to understand because it can be
09:59something that could be fun you know people are doing trends and stuff but actually there are
10:04things that are dangerous when you use social media okay then if i have this is the way i
10:10yeah uh uh kalau untuk uh anak ayah syamikael i uh dia punya media sosial uh dia punya tiktok uh
10:17dia
10:17punya instagram so selalunya dia i akan pantau dia sebab i punya perkejaan pun mulai media sosial so
10:23everything semua media sosial sekarang so uh bila dia tengok i punya kita sebenarnya bermula daripada
10:30kita sendirilah bagi i lah eh betul kalau kita punya post pun tidak melampau lepas tu kalau kita punya
10:37tak ada status yang naik yang bukan-bukan so i rasa anak kita pun akan ikut akan tengok kita so
10:42uh dia
10:43punya media sosial uh dia punya tiktok atau instagram pun media sosial dia link dengan i so apa benda
10:51punya berlaku i akan tahu apa yang dia buat apa yang dia punya komen yes so i punya uh dia
10:57ada account
10:58account dia ada dekat i so i akan buka okay kalau i duduk um belum buat kerja kan i tengok
11:04apa yang dia
11:05tulis dalam media sosial dia so itu yang sebenarnya bagi i lah kot tapi kalau tak ada juga nanti
11:10kesian pula mereka i think as parents kan kita kita kalau terlampau strict if you are too strict they might
11:18start to mula nak sorok things you know behind us it's also important for for us to have a safe
11:26conversation maybe i'll say you can share with us um to be able to understand them and also make sure
11:34that
11:34they're not doing something dangerous what are the risks of um teenagers below 16 when they are um
11:42using social media so the risk comes when there's free access there's like unsupervised unguided
11:49things and then they just can do whatever they want because then they have access to the whole world
11:54oops sorry they have access to the whole world and the whole world have access to them so that's when
11:59the
11:59dangerous kind of like the risk the biggest risk comes in because then what how do they know what's
12:06right what's wrong because sometimes in social media it's normalized so there's normalized of like eating
12:12disorders or like you have to look a certain way yeah so how do you how do how are they
12:17able to
12:18differentiate whether it's right or wrong if they don't have any adult or anyone that they trust to
12:23talk to so it's good that you're saying that to have open conversations and all of that because
12:29then they know that if they come to you they're not gonna get like punished so if they get punished
12:34then they will just suffer alone right so the risk is to their mental health so there's higher risk of
12:40anxiety depression low self-concept low self-esteem because right now during the teenagers is where they
12:48ask who they are so who am i where do i belong right so imagine if all the content that
12:54they're
12:54looking at it's like oh you should be a certain way you should be this yeah you should look a
13:00certain
13:00way then it's hard for them like oh maybe i should is that like the truth maybe i should be
13:05that so that's
13:06like where the risk comes in and then there's risk of exposure to harmful content and then the grooming
13:11predatory behavior and all of that and then like cyber bullying also and there's no end to that
13:17so it's always like then it's always online then they are also like performing curating kind of like
13:23making social comparisons kind of like looking oh should i post this will they like it will my friends
13:29like it right so they're like there's a lot of emotional labor towards it right yeah so that it's like
13:35non-stop so how do you actually deal with that when i mean i think that is the reality i
13:42would say
13:43even if they're already 16 and above they are actually going through that how do you actually
13:49advise your kids on you know how to be yourselves how to you know not think too much what would
13:57you say
13:57i think one part is it it's to have the honest and open conversation so when once you have they
14:05see something they can kind of like come to us and also we have to delve into their world also
14:11so
14:12we as adults so i'm not a parent yet but as parents it's like to kind of like understand what
14:18they're
14:19watching what makes them laugh what makes them sad what's kind of like influencing them so we have to
14:25kind of like understand their world of things i think if generation dulu is different than nowadays
14:33i think as parents we need to be very close to our children and let's talk about limitations
14:40and boundaries yang kita letak dekat anak-anak um apa yang you letak you make sure dekat anak
14:46you okay this this thing you just tak boleh dah how do you set benda tu okay kalau i i
14:52sendiri i
14:53ikut penggembangan perkembangan umur dia eh kita okay okay umur 2 tahun kita gini umur 3 tahun gini
15:004 tahun gitu pukul 6 tahun dia macam ni so macam sekarang ni fasa dia remaja so fasa remaja you
15:05kena banyak jadi kawan daripada you you kena sentiasa sebagai seorang bapa tunggal i i sentiasa
15:13kena mendengar apa keluh resah dia apa masalah dia lepas tu dia dalam media sosial tu kan you kena
15:19tengok dia apa yang dia tengok apa yang dia minat you kena beri support lah bagi i itu
15:24kira you pun macam kalau dia minat you pun oh iya i akan duduk sekali kalau dia duduk
15:27macam macam anak i dia suka khat tau dia suka tulisan gawing lepas tu media sosial dia
15:34dalam titok dia akan dalam titok dia mengaji lepas tu dia akan macam hadis semua kan so
15:41dia memang suka benda yang itu dia berumur dah start daripada umur 4 tahun dia memang suka
15:46masya Allah ini i kongsi i kongsi first apa benda pun bagi i lah bagi i i tidaklah baik sangat
15:53eh
15:54tapi kita cuba yang terbaik so bagi i first first dulu didikan agama itu yang first dulu
16:02bila you tak ajar dia pasal adam everything semua you akan dia akan tahu semua pasal media sosial tu
16:08yang mana yang buruk yang mana tidak dia tahu ok macam contoh mika mika eh kes bully ni kan
16:13you tahu tak budak ni kena kena kena something lah you cerita lah yang dekat media sosial
16:18oh mana ayah lepas tu oh baca oh macam mana boleh jalan itu kita merumur kita i i mengajar
16:25anak i untuk mendalami benda itu dan faham oh benda ni salah ni kalau kau buat salah
16:30benda ni salah macam itulah macam i asal lubat macam itulah tapi macam banyak panjang lagi
16:37perjalanan anak i lagi so setakat ini macam hari ni i datang sini pun kata ni mika
16:42macam mana ayah nak jawab semua soalan ni ok dia tegalkan lepas tu dia tegalkan
16:46dia yang asal ok ayah you kena macam tu ok
16:48manager
16:50so walaupun dia baru 12 tahun tapi pemikiran dia matang sedikit
16:56so i memang mentitik beratkan you salah sebab i pernah sebab i seorang yang menjaga so i kena
17:05pastikan dia i pernah menjaga dia waktu macam aku tegas oh you tak boleh tengok
17:10handphone you tak boleh ni you tak boleh ni you tak boleh ni you tak boleh ni
17:13disiplin lah
17:14masa tu umur dah 4 tahun 4 tahun depressed tau memang betul yang budak-budaknya
17:18ahah menjerit-jerit tu so dia pernah mengalami benda tu so bila i tak boleh ni you
17:23sebagai parent sebenarnya you yang kena change sebenarnya you yang kena
17:27kita juga membesar dengan diorang
17:29kalau zaman kita dulu kalau zaman saya lah kan dulu kan
17:32saya main nyorok-nyorok saya main main sungai perak
17:37dia tak ada
17:38ya tak ada media sosial tak ada phone so you kena bagaimana you dahulu dan bagaimana
17:45you sekarang so you kena berbetulkan apa yang sekarang ini you kena ikut zaman
17:51sekarang itulah pendapat lah
17:54and audrey maybe we can have your opinion on again limitation and boundaries
18:00how do you set them with your kids
18:04um so like for me the one that is off limits is anything that will put them in
18:09danger uh or that they will endanger other people or they will hurt other
18:14people so i i think my boundaries are um always based on that like that that's the that's the
18:22that's the main foundation and then like sharo also the same thing like it depends on what um how old
18:28they are yeah what phase um i believe a lot in uh letting them explore um explore as much as
18:36is safe
18:37lah right so so um i believe in giving them like the freedom once they are like certain certain age
18:42and i
18:43feel that they are mature enough to be able handle things then then i will let go more and more
18:47and
18:47i guess that's how i run my i guess that's how we that we we base our parenting on that
18:54um a lot of it is also based on um empathy um like compassion compassion for other people so um
19:02we do focus a lot about it like we do um like family
19:06activities like for example we will pack we do this thing like we call it the homeless kid where we
19:12will go uh go to that
19:13supermarket then we will buy like yeah like supplies for like homeless people so um like
19:18snacks uh snacks um but toothpaste soap um even sanitary pads for like ladies and then we'll pack them up
19:26and because we used to live around kl so around kl city there's a lot of like homeless people around
19:31so
19:31we make it a point so that my kids will come down from the car and they will do it
19:36so we've always practiced that so i think
19:38that's that's the basis of it there's also a lot of other things i guess but for us it would
19:43be around this
19:44yeah i think um nowadays we also have um
19:51besides setting boundaries right we also have this uh parental control tools that get dalam phone
19:58um do you guys use it or like what do you think of you know restricting that in terms of
20:03using that tool
20:05to make sure that they don't uh have access to certain platforms um
20:10kalau macam i sendiri kalau macam uh i memang ajar mikhail uh daripada awal i akan beritahu uh no and
20:20yes
20:20yes yes no so uh you apa benda pun dalam phone you uh you nak uh upload apa benda
20:27pun you kena beritahu i dulu you kena minta izin i dulu so uh i rasa yang itu yang i
20:33bertitip
20:33beratkan sampai sekarang lah so apa mana apa benda pun yang dia buat dalam phone dia dia akan
20:38tanya i dulu you lah yang i balik kerja walaupun i penat macam mana pun kan okay misal ya okay
20:45so i i bagi kebebasan lepas tu i cakap kepada dia i dah bagi you i dah trust you and
20:51you kena
20:52bagi i satu benda yang uh you kena bagi i satu benda yang i akan percaya yeah you
20:57jangan menipu i so apa benda uh everything you kena beritahu yeah yeah dalam media sosial
21:02tapi media sosial ini sebenarnya bahayalah juga i mean it's true lah i mean besides media
21:06sosial kita ada i mean we have youtube you know i also have kids watching youtube so
21:11uh kadang-kadang kita tengok lah kita pantau and then sometimes we tak tak perasan apa yang
21:17diran tengok kan like how do we maybe alisa can share um how do we make sure that
21:23macam mana kita nak control benda ni like you know our kids i think daripada kecil semua pun
21:31dah start watching youtube i think it's hard to just like control because you're not there with
21:38them like 24 7 also yeah so i think like the restrictions that you put in the conversations
21:43that you have will help so like the parental controls does help but it provides like sometimes
21:49it provides like a false sense of security that you think with this kind of like control then
21:54your child is safe but it's not you still have yeah so because then for parents it's like a big
22:01task
22:02like a big responsibility also because you still have to monitor so it's kind of like
22:07teaching them how to navigate safely through social media kind of thing
22:13do you guys use uh audrey do you use parental control um when my kids were on android there's
22:20the family link app yeah you can use right so uh we use that a lot uh right now they've
22:28moved to
22:28iphone right and iphone has a bit less um oh compact to android oh i didn't know that yeah so
22:35and the
22:35thing about my family link app is that it's like on my google on our old android phone but i
22:40cannot
22:40transfer it over to the iphone yeah yeah so i have that issue and then iphone is not not so
22:45good at um
22:46controlling i feel but we also have manual parental controls like you know you can only uh play ipad
22:53in the living room for example if you're on your ipad or if you're on your computer then the
22:59requirements that you must leave your door open so at least i know what's going on right yeah yeah so
23:05that's my manual parental control manual they double lah satu pakai tool another one
23:11we must control yeah but we must control yeah just parental control that's on the app but also kind
23:18of like the manual controls also so a balance of everything sometimes uh this i just said this is
23:24general i just said sometimes when we look at youtube okay i want to go eat so give us an
23:31iPad so
23:31look so but we don't see what's going on so we don't see what's going on so we don't see
23:40what's going on so
23:41we think we don't see what's going on so we don't see what's going on so we don't see what's
23:46going on so
23:49yeah we don't see what's going on so we don't see right now so we don't see the
23:55next thing can we really understand the the first page of online and not catch up
24:10all these
24:11social medias
24:12with the kids
24:13I don't think
24:14we've catch up
24:15so they use a lot of
24:16kind of like devices
24:17and everything
24:18but the conversations
24:19around it
24:19don't even know
24:20not a lot of people
24:21have conversations
24:22about like social media
24:23the dangers of social media
24:25the benefits of social media
24:26so a lot of the time
24:27people just assume things
24:29oh okay lah
24:30oh
24:30bila budak kecil
24:31boleh je
24:31tengok ke whatever
24:33but you don't really like
24:34really talk about it
24:35like maybe parents
24:36will talk to other parents
24:37like how do you handle it
24:38kind of thing
24:39so there's not much
24:40conversation around it
24:42so I guess like
24:42having more conversations
24:44then there's more awareness
24:46then we can catch up
24:47about like
24:47the evolving world
24:49of social media
24:50and like internet
24:51and all of that
24:52because I feel like
24:54compared to last time
24:55we don't have all this
24:56you know
24:59phones and stuff
25:00but nowadays
25:01we can't live without it
25:02especially also
25:03with our kids
25:04like we don't really
25:05sekarang ni dah tak tahu
25:06macam mana dah
25:07kalau tak ada
25:08diorang ni tak ada
25:09phone
25:10tak ada devices
25:13what do you think
25:15macam
25:16is this actually right
25:18ataupun
25:18is this
25:19you know
25:20I don't even know
25:21how to answer this
25:23having devices
25:25right
25:25especially for kids
25:26tapi
25:27if you don't have
25:28diorang
25:29missed out
25:30right
25:32so I gave them
25:33devices
25:34when my son
25:35was 10
25:35and then my daughter
25:37was 8
25:38but it was because
25:39how do you control that
25:41I mean before 10
25:42I actually regret
25:43I regret like
25:44oh my god
25:44really
25:45you regret so early
25:47but the reason
25:48the reason why I gave
25:49was because
25:49we changed their
25:50school to a school
25:51that's quite far
25:51from our house
25:52and then they were
25:53taking school transport
25:54so I was a bit
25:55worried about
25:56their safety
25:56so we gave the
25:58phone to them
25:58to kind of
25:59help monitor
26:00sometimes it's also
26:01for us right
26:01we need to breathe
26:02sometimes
26:03we say okay
26:04your phone switch out
26:06okay
26:06but yeah
26:07so after that
26:08I gave
26:08I really regret
26:09then that's why
26:10I started
26:10going into
26:11looking at the
26:12family link app
26:14and stuff like that
26:14but wait
26:16what's the question
26:16again
26:17how do I
26:17yeah basically
26:18having children
26:20even your kids
26:21growing up
26:22with a device
26:23right
26:24how do you feel
26:25I mean
26:26there's no right
26:27and wrong answer
26:28to everything
26:28I feel like
26:29it's also true
26:30that you don't
26:31want them to
26:31feel left out
26:32but at the same
26:33time I feel that
26:34them having
26:35too much screen time
26:36not just social media
26:37but screen time
26:38is way worse
26:40that's my opinion
26:41yeah
26:41so when they were
26:43up to maybe
26:44recently
26:44now that they are
26:45a bit older
26:45I don't do that
26:46anymore
26:46so I have a lot
26:47of rules
26:48do you have
26:48like an hour
26:49yeah so we have
26:50screen time limit
26:51but they have to
26:52earn the screen time
26:53limit
26:53I see
26:54so they have
26:54maybe
26:55I only let them
26:56have half an hour
26:57until recently
26:58now they have
26:58maybe one hour
26:59on weekdays
26:59yeah
27:00half an hour
27:00weekdays
27:01so to earn
27:01this half an hour
27:02they need to go
27:03outside for half
27:04an hour
27:04they need to
27:05read something
27:05for 20 minutes
27:07they need to
27:07build something
27:08you have to earn
27:08it
27:09yeah they have to
27:09earn it
27:09so if they don't
27:10earn it
27:11then too bad
27:12no screen time
27:13if like you
27:14Sharul
27:14if like I
27:15pulang
27:17I
27:19sebab
27:19Mika'i
27:20seorang-seorang
27:20so
27:22kalau
27:23I have
27:24rules
27:24when I was
27:25in school
27:25she didn't
27:26make the phone
27:27immediately
27:28that's what
27:29I have
27:29the rules
27:30when I was
27:32in the house
27:32she would
27:33look at the phone
27:33but
27:34pastikan
27:35okay
27:35when I was
27:36at the solat
27:36you had to
27:37break
27:37before
27:38you had to
27:41when I was
27:41going to stop
27:41what time
27:43you nak
27:44main
27:44Roblox
27:44berapa jam
27:45you boleh
27:45main
27:46Roblox
27:46what time
27:47buku berapa
27:48you nak
27:48tengok
27:48YouTube
27:49sebab
27:49kalau you nak
27:50larang
27:51sebab
27:52you
27:52suruh-suruh
27:53lagi susah
27:55so
27:57you
27:57you
27:57you
27:58you
27:58you
27:58you
28:00yang
28:00merancang
28:01benda tu
28:01macam
28:02anak
28:02I
28:04I
28:04bekerja
28:05sendiri
28:06selalu
28:06balik
28:06lewat
28:07malam
28:07dia duduk
28:07seorang-seorang
28:08dekat rumah
28:08so
28:09security
28:09semua
28:09I
28:10pastikan
28:10ada
28:11CCTV
28:12ada
28:12ini
28:13semua
28:13Mika'i
28:13bukannya
28:14ada
28:15laptop
28:15ada
28:16game
28:16semua
28:16ni
28:17semua
28:17saya
28:17sediakan
28:18tapi
28:19macam mana
28:20you
28:21nak
28:21control
28:22you
28:22bayangkan
28:22dia duduk
28:23seorang-seorang
28:23macam mana
28:23I nak tahu
28:24dia tengok
28:24benda yang
28:25bukan-bukan
28:25apa-ke
28:26sekali kan
28:27bila dah
28:28umur
28:28remaja ni
28:29so
28:29I kena dekat
28:31dengan dia
28:31I kena beritahu
28:32dia
28:32apa yang
28:33boleh dan
28:33apa yang
28:33tidak boleh
28:34sebagai
28:34seorang
28:34lelaki
28:35so
28:36I kena
28:36bercakap
28:36dia pasal
28:37mengenai
28:37lelaki
28:38walaupun
28:39dia baru
28:3912 tahun
28:41serius
28:41walaupun
28:42dia baru
28:4212 tahun
28:43I tak
28:43rasa
28:43bercerita
28:45faham
28:45so
28:46kalau
28:46you
28:46kalau
28:46dengan
28:47girl
28:47dia haram
28:48halal
28:49zid
28:49so
28:50I kena
28:50beritahu
28:50benda tu
28:51so
28:53Alhamdulillah
28:53tapi
28:54perjalanan
28:54saya jauh lagi
28:55so
28:56I rasa
28:56benda tu
28:57yang
28:57I titip beratkan
28:58so
28:58bila
28:59I tengok
28:59my
29:00cousin
29:01sepupu
29:01yang lain tu
29:02I rasa
29:02macam
29:03I kata
29:04you all
29:04kena buat
29:05benda yang
29:06sama
29:06so
29:06daripada
29:07awal
29:08you kena
29:08ajar
29:09anak you
29:10apa yang
29:11mereka
29:11lihat
29:11dalam media
29:12sosial tu
29:12apa yang
29:13dalam
29:13YouTube tu
29:14yang mereka
29:14lihat
29:14itu
29:15bagi
29:15tapi
29:16kalau
29:16you dah
29:17awal
29:17you dah
29:18tak
29:18ambil kisah
29:19habis
29:19true
29:20and sekarang
29:21kita ada
29:22social issues
29:23that is
29:24very scary
29:25kita ada
29:26especially
29:27among teenagers
29:28we have
29:28underage
29:29pregnancy
29:29we have
29:31cyberbullying
29:33do you think
29:34it's because
29:34of this
29:35they are
29:35influenced
29:36by the
29:36kind of
29:37content
29:37that they
29:38see right
29:39now
29:39in their
29:39daily
29:39lives
29:40I think
29:42it's a
29:43big factor
29:44but it's not
29:45the only
29:45factor
29:45because of
29:46course
29:46bullying
29:47and underage
29:48pregnancy
29:49was there
29:49before
29:50but I
29:51think
29:52with
29:52social
29:52media
29:53it
29:53accelerates
29:54and
29:54amplifies
29:54the content
29:56on social
29:57media
29:57is like
29:58sometimes
29:58they normalize
29:59sexual
29:59behaviors
30:00they normalize
30:01relationships
30:02or what
30:02a relationship
30:04should be
30:06kind of like
30:07how you have
30:07to be
30:08with someone
30:08that you
30:09like
30:09or with
30:10your friends
30:11if your
30:11friends
30:11ask this
30:12so there's
30:12like the
30:13social pressure
30:14also
30:14of doing
30:15things
30:16of being
30:16online
30:16of
30:17kind of
30:18like
30:18following
30:18the trends
30:19and all
30:19of that
30:20like the
30:20normalization
30:21of things
30:21so I think
30:22with that
30:24then it's
30:24like
30:24then it
30:26increases
30:26the risk
30:27of things
30:28happening
30:28especially
30:29cyberbullying
30:30nowadays
30:30it's so
30:31easy to
30:32get
30:32cyberbullied
30:33like you
30:33don't have
30:33to be
30:34someone
30:34known
30:35for example
30:37on tiktok
30:37suddenly you
30:38become viral
30:39and then that's
30:40when the
30:40cyberbullying
30:41yes and
30:41it's because
30:42it's also
30:42like netizens
30:43right
30:43like the
30:44behavior around
30:45kind of like
30:45social media
30:46is like oh
30:47you just
30:47cancel someone
30:48or you just
30:48judge someone
30:49so that
30:50behavior is
30:51like kind
30:52of like
30:53acceptable
30:53behavior in
30:54terms of when
30:55you look at
30:56it like oh
30:56it's normalized
30:57people always
30:58do that
30:58so then they
30:59think oh
30:59it's normal
31:00to just like
31:00judge someone
31:01or just to
31:02say something
31:02mean you
31:03know so they
31:04think then it's
31:04normal but
31:05it's not
31:06yeah I want
31:07to share
31:07there's several
31:09high profile
31:10cases in
31:10Malaysia
31:11linked to
31:12cyberbullying
31:13and then we
31:14have a case
31:16recently involving
31:17the late
31:17tiktok influencer
31:19Rajaswari
31:20Apahu or
31:21Esha who
31:22was believed
31:23to experience
31:24emotional stress
31:26because of all
31:28these online
31:28harassments
31:29for teenagers
31:31below 16 who
31:32are still
31:33emotionally
31:34developing this
31:35perasaan
31:36these feelings
31:37you know still
31:38learning how
31:39to process
31:40rejection
31:41criticism and
31:43self-worth
31:43how damaging
31:45can cyber
31:46bully actually
31:47be to their
31:48mental and
31:49emotional
31:50well-being
31:51I would like
31:52to take a
31:53moment for
31:53Esha because
31:54it's a real
31:55person
31:55real loss
31:56real kind of
31:57like consequences
31:58to like acknowledge
31:59Esha also
32:00because it's
32:01real loss that
32:02happens in a
32:03family right
32:03this is your
32:05real thing
32:05yes there is
32:06real consequences
32:07to online
32:08behavior to
32:09real life
32:10like offline
32:11consequences
32:12so with
32:14teenagers of
32:15course I
32:16think Esha
32:16was 30
32:17right if I'm
32:18not mistaken
32:19so even an
32:20adult it can
32:21have like
32:21detrimental effects
32:22imagine someone
32:24who is still
32:24developing still
32:25kind of like
32:26understanding the
32:27world right
32:28it has it can
32:29have like a
32:29profound impact
32:30on them also
32:31right can you
32:32imagine just by
32:33just typing
32:34you know and
32:36then you see
32:36all these
32:36comments has
32:37big effect on
32:39your mental
32:39health and
32:40I feel like
32:41maybe it's
32:43starting there's
32:44cases are
32:45growing so I
32:46feel like we
32:47need more
32:47awareness on
32:48this cyber
32:49bullying especially
32:50in Malaysia
32:52how can we
32:53address these
32:55issues to you
32:56know so that
32:57the awareness
32:58gets bigger
32:59so people can
33:01understand more
33:01how important
33:03and how
33:03dangerous this
33:04thing can
33:04actually be for
33:05someone on
33:06social media
33:07I think a lot
33:08of it starts at
33:09home also like
33:10you know when
33:10you have these
33:11cases or when
33:12things happen
33:13then you can
33:13have a talk
33:14about it with
33:15family members
33:15people that
33:16are near us
33:17so it's kind
33:18of like you
33:18don't take it
33:19as like oh
33:20we don't talk
33:20about it we
33:21don't want that
33:21to happen we
33:22don't talk
33:22about it
33:22then they're
33:23afraid to tell
33:24people they're
33:25getting cyber
33:26bullied but
33:26they're so
33:27insecure and
33:28afraid to tell
33:29people that
33:29they're going
33:30through this
33:30because then
33:31if we don't
33:33talk about it
33:34then we don't
33:34normalise kind
33:35of like you
33:35know the
33:36conversations the
33:36hard conversations
33:37then it's hard
33:38for them if
33:39something happens
33:40to them or
33:40they see
33:41something that
33:41they don't
33:42like or
33:42they're experiencing
33:44something then
33:44they wouldn't
33:45come to us
33:45to adults
33:46that can help
33:47them so then
33:48they would just
33:49suffer alone
33:49which then
33:50affects their
33:51mental health
33:51and so many
33:53things can
33:54happen after
33:54that also
33:55as a parent
33:56maybe we can
33:57start with
33:58Audrey do
33:59you think we
33:59can create a
34:00safer environment
34:01online experience
34:03with the kids
34:04when they're
34:05basically growing
34:06up with social
34:07media
34:09online itself I
34:10feel is very
34:11hard because
34:11like what
34:12like Melissa
34:13said the
34:16whole it's
34:17social media
34:17that amplifies
34:18bullying has
34:19always already
34:20been there but
34:20social media
34:21amplifies it and
34:22like when you
34:23are like typing
34:23on your keyboard
34:25you don't
34:26actually see
34:26the impact
34:28yeah the
34:29actual impact
34:29on the victim
34:30whereas if you
34:31are face to
34:32face then maybe
34:33then your empathy
34:33will kick in
34:34your you know
34:35your moral your
34:35values will kick
34:36in but when
34:37you're behind a
34:38screen it makes
34:40it so much easier
34:40to do something
34:41and not it
34:42seems like it's
34:43nothing yeah
34:44yeah but it's
34:45actually affecting
34:46someone yeah
34:47so I feel like as
34:48parents that we
34:49have it's about
34:50like when you
34:51want to juggle
34:52your kids from
34:53being victims but
34:54I also don't want
34:55my kids to be
34:56the one bully
34:57doing the
34:58bullying that's
34:58also equally
34:59scary it's a
35:01scary world
35:01yeah yeah
35:03dia bukan bully
35:04dekat media
35:05social
35:06kalau dekat
35:07sekolah tu pun
35:08yang kita pun
35:08takut
35:08everything semua
35:11I kata
35:12daripada bermula
35:13daripada kita
35:13punya kehidupan
35:14real
35:14dengan kehidupan
35:15di alam
35:16because we
35:17cannot control
35:18bila dia dekat
35:19sekolah we
35:19don't know
35:20what's going
35:20on right
35:20yeah
35:21tapi macam
35:22macam I
35:22sendiri
35:23I
35:24sebagai parent
35:25sebagai bapa
35:26I akan
35:27berkenalan
35:28dengan semua
35:28kawan-kawan dia
35:30so I
35:30kata
35:30setiap
35:32bulan
35:32ini I
35:33punya
35:33I
35:34punya lah
35:35setiap
35:36bulan
35:36I akan
35:37panggil
35:37kawan-kawan
35:38datang
35:39I akan
35:39telefon
35:39parent
35:40I
35:40kata
35:40okay you
35:41untuk
35:42anak you
35:42all
35:42datang
35:43untuk
35:43study
35:43macam
35:44sekarang
35:44ni
35:44dia tengah
35:44exam
35:45study
35:45so I
35:46akan
35:46buat
35:48minum
35:48petang
35:49satu hari
35:49tengok
35:50wayang
35:50mereka
35:51pergi
35:51jalan
35:51semua
35:52so sebagai
35:52I
35:53rasa
35:54yang itu
35:54bila mereka
35:55ada grup
35:55mereka sendiri
35:56mereka
35:56akan
35:57tak
35:57ada
35:57kes
35:57buli
35:58lepas tu
35:58mereka
35:59takkan
35:59bercakap
35:59yang bukan
36:00dalam media
36:00sosial
36:01I
36:15you
36:15need
36:16to
36:16identify
36:17understand
36:17if
36:18that
36:18person
36:18is
36:19being
36:20nice
36:20to
36:20you
36:20or
36:21they
36:21taking
36:22advantage
36:22of
36:22you
36:23or
36:23this
36:24is
36:24bully
36:24or
36:25not
36:25you
36:25need
36:25to
36:26know
36:26is
36:26this
36:26does
36:26that
36:27make
36:27you
36:27happy
36:27does
36:28that
36:28make
36:28you
36:28upset
36:28yeah
36:29because
36:30she's
36:30very shy
36:31Dijin
36:32is
36:32very
36:32quiet
36:33at
36:33school
36:33so
36:33when
36:33people
36:33take
36:34her
36:34things
36:34she
36:35doesn't
36:36do
36:36anything
36:36but
36:37then
36:37she
36:37will
36:37tell
36:38me
36:38so
36:39in
36:40order
36:40for
36:40me
36:41to
36:41help
36:41her
36:42at
36:42least
36:42I
36:42can
36:42support
36:43her
36:43in
36:43some
36:44kind
36:44of
36:45way
36:45is
36:45for
36:46her
36:46to
36:46be
36:46able
36:46to
36:47tell
36:47me
36:47anything
36:48that
36:48she
36:48feels
36:48uncomfortable
36:49with
36:49especially
36:50at
36:50school
36:51because
36:51we
36:51don't
36:51know
36:51what's
36:52going
36:52on
36:52there
36:52sometimes
36:54itulah
36:54kalau
36:55berdeke
36:55sekolah
36:55itu
36:56kita
36:56yang
36:56kena
36:56bila
36:57dengar
36:57dia
36:57kita
36:59kena
36:59dengar
37:00dia
37:00orang
37:00mengadu
37:00apa
37:01itu
37:01kita
37:01kena
37:01dengar
37:02macam
37:02ok
37:03kita
37:03nampak
37:04benda
37:04itu
37:05nampak
37:05macam
37:05ini
37:06dah
37:06bawa
37:06kebuli
37:07sikit
37:07dah
37:07so
37:07kita
37:08kena
37:08mungkin
37:09macam
37:10baik
37:10tapi
37:10sebenarnya
37:11this
37:11is
37:11not
37:11right
37:12macam
37:12tu
37:13kita
37:13kena
37:14pantau
37:16tapi
37:16not
37:17easy
37:17lah
37:17kan
37:17sebenarnya
37:18Audrey
37:19maybe
37:19you can
37:20share
37:20maybe
37:21there
37:21are
37:21stories
37:22among
37:23your
37:23kids
37:23you know
37:25so
37:25my daughter
37:26is the
37:26opposite
37:27of yours
37:27my daughter
37:28is very
37:29especially
37:30when she
37:30was younger
37:30like
37:31she's
37:31she doesn't
37:33really care
37:34like
37:34she
37:36strong
37:36will
37:36she's
37:37very
37:37strong
37:37will
37:37and then
37:38she's
37:38very
37:39popular
37:40so
37:40all the
37:41girls
37:41like
37:41you know
37:41all her
37:41friends
37:42they all
37:42like
37:43somehow
37:43they like
37:44her
37:44a lot
37:44and they'll
37:45follow her
37:45but she
37:46at that
37:47time
37:47so that's
37:48why you
37:48know
37:48how I
37:48focus on
37:49empathy
37:49a lot
37:50because I
37:50noticed
37:50that she
37:51didn't
37:52really care
37:52about
37:52what
37:52everyone else
37:54is doing
37:54except
37:54herself
37:55she only
37:56cares about
37:56herself
37:56and me
37:57like
37:58she doesn't
37:58even care
37:58about
37:58the dad
37:59it's
37:59like
37:59the most
38:00important
38:00is me
38:03she was
38:03actually
38:04hurting
38:04her
38:04friends
38:04but she
38:05didn't
38:06realise
38:06that
38:06I felt
38:07like
38:07you know
38:08Mean Girls
38:09that movie
38:10Regina George
38:11I was scared
38:14she would be
38:14like the
38:15queen
38:15the leader
38:17but the
38:18one who's
38:18bullying people
38:19or making
38:19other people
38:21feel worse
38:21so we really
38:23had to work
38:23with her
38:24so that's
38:25why I say
38:25there's two
38:26sides of the
38:26coin
38:27and I think
38:27it goes
38:28back to
38:29parenting
38:29it still
38:31goes back
38:31to home
38:32and I think
38:34what you
38:35said also
38:35was very
38:36good about
38:36how you
38:37get to
38:37know
38:37their
38:38friends
38:38I'm also
38:39trying to
38:39do that
38:40like
38:40always have
38:41I try to
38:42make my
38:42house as
38:43inviting as
38:44possible
38:44so that
38:44they want
38:45to come
38:45and hang
38:45out
38:46and get
38:46to
38:46them
38:47I
38:47layan
38:50like
38:50raja
38:51anak
38:53I
38:53like
38:56swimming
38:56I
38:57like
38:58swimming
38:58so
39:00they
39:01are
39:01happy
39:01so
39:02you
39:02are
39:03excited
39:03excited
39:04tambah
39:04budak-budak
39:04bandar
39:05macam
39:06kita
39:06di kampung
39:06dululah
39:06lain
39:07so
39:07kita
39:08kena
39:09selam
39:10anak
39:10kita
39:10that's why
39:11tapi
39:12sebagai
39:12parent
39:12kita
39:13macam
39:13ok
39:14kena
39:14buang
39:15ego
39:15kita
39:15yang
39:16macam
39:16oh
39:17ini
39:17tak
39:17boleh
39:17ini
39:17tak
39:17boleh
39:18so
39:18I
39:18rasalah
39:19ok
39:20so
39:20itu
39:21anak-anak
39:22di
39:23luar
39:24dari
39:24social
39:24media
39:24kita
39:24go back
39:25to
39:25our
39:26topic
39:26sekarang
39:27ni
39:27and
39:27bila
39:28kita
39:29cakap
39:29pasal
39:29social
39:29media
39:30kan
39:31kalau
39:32they
39:33don't
39:33experience
39:33social
39:34media
39:34early
39:35are
39:36they
39:36going
39:36to
39:36get
39:37left
39:37behind
39:39what
39:40do
39:40you
39:40think
39:40maybe
39:41can
39:41start
39:41with
39:41Alisa
39:41dulu
39:42I
39:42think
39:42it's
39:43not
39:43about
39:43being
39:43left
39:44I
39:44think
39:44there
39:45should
39:45always
39:45be
39:46a
39:46balance
39:46but
39:47it
39:47also
39:48doesn't
39:48mean
39:48that
39:48early
39:49exposure
39:49means
39:50better
39:50preparation
39:51also
39:51at the
39:51same
39:52time
39:52so
39:53because
39:53it's
39:53like
39:54you
39:55build
39:55the
39:55like
39:56able
39:56to
39:57handle
39:57criticisms
39:57kind
39:58of like
39:58self
39:59concept
39:59who
40:00they
40:00are
40:00and
40:00all
40:01of
40:01that
40:01happens
40:02they
40:02are
40:02built
40:02with
40:03face
40:04to
40:04face
40:04interactions
40:05like
40:05real
40:05interactions
40:06kind
40:06of like
40:07conversations
40:07with
40:08people
40:08their
40:09real
40:09life
40:09experiences
40:10so
40:11that
40:12isn't
40:12built
40:13within
40:13social
40:14media
40:14only
40:15so
40:16if
40:16they
40:16have
40:17that
40:18if
40:18their
40:18foundation
40:19is
40:19solid
40:19then
40:20their
40:20ability
40:21to
40:21handle
40:21social
40:22media
40:22is
40:22manageable
40:23if
40:23not
40:24it's
40:24like
40:24they
40:24also
40:25don't
40:25know
40:25what
40:25they
40:25are
40:26who
40:26they
40:26are
40:27they
40:27also
40:27don't
40:27know
40:27anything
40:28then
40:28it's
40:28like
40:28you're
40:29just
40:29like
40:29throwing
40:30someone
40:30not
40:31prepared
40:31to
40:31just
40:31handle
40:32it
40:32on
40:32their
40:32own
40:33so
40:33I
40:33think
40:34a
40:34lot
40:38social
40:39media
40:40they
40:40can
40:40handle
40:41social
40:41media
40:41because
40:41they
40:42know
40:42what's
40:42right
40:42they
40:42know
40:43their
40:43values
40:43they
40:44know
40:44what
40:45they
40:45want
40:45they
40:45know
40:46what's
40:46right
40:46and
40:46what's
40:47wrong
40:47so
40:48you
40:48think
40:4916
40:50is
40:50the
40:50right
40:51age
40:51what
40:52would
40:52you
40:52say
40:52I
40:53think
40:53it
40:54depends
40:54there's
40:55no
40:55right
40:55or
40:56wrong
40:56age
40:56also
40:57because
40:57there's
40:57not
40:57research
40:58much
40:58done
40:58on
40:59it
40:59also
41:00but
41:00it's
41:00also
41:01we
41:01cannot
41:01have
41:02suddenly
41:02they're
41:0216
41:0317
41:03only
41:03then
41:04you
41:04give
41:04and
41:04then
41:04they
41:04don't
41:05know
41:05anything
41:05about
41:05it
41:06right
41:06so
41:07there
41:07should
41:07be
41:07a
41:08balance
41:08between
41:08things
41:09so
41:09if
41:10their
41:10foundation
41:10is
41:11strong
41:11then
41:12it's
41:13like
41:13when
41:13you
41:13have
41:14conversations
41:14with
41:15parents
41:15and
41:15all
41:15of
41:16that
41:16then
41:16it's
41:16like
41:17a
41:17protective
41:18factor
41:18for
41:18them
41:18yeah
41:20because
41:20nowadays
41:21we
41:21have
41:22lots
41:23of
41:23influential
41:24people
41:25so
41:25some
41:26can
41:26be
41:26good
41:27some
41:27can
41:27be
41:27bad
41:28for
41:28Audrey
41:29right
41:29are
41:29you
41:30actually
41:30worried
41:30of
41:33affect
41:34your
41:34children
41:35yeah
41:35yeah
41:36I mean
41:37there's
41:37like
41:37you know
41:38that
41:38Andrew
41:39Tate
41:40so
41:41you know
41:42who
41:42Andrew
41:43Tate
41:43is
41:43right
41:43so
41:43I'm
41:43really
41:44scared
41:44of
41:44my
41:45son
41:45and
41:45he's very
41:45famous
41:46right
41:46yeah
41:46so
41:47I'm
41:47really
41:48scared
41:48of
41:48my
41:48son
41:49getting
41:49into
41:49this
41:50thing
41:50so
41:50that's
41:50one
41:50of
41:51my
41:51like
41:52it's
41:52not
41:52just
41:52bullying
41:53and
41:53addiction
41:53but
41:54it's
41:54this
41:54the
41:54people
41:56radicalization
41:57into
41:58this
41:59Andrew
41:59Tate
41:59and
41:59this
42:00guy
42:00guy
42:00is
42:01very
42:01big
42:01people
42:02idolize
42:03his name
42:04yeah
42:04but
42:04he's
42:05so
42:05problematic
42:05yeah
42:06scary
42:08so
42:09I
42:10am
42:10very
42:11scared
42:12of
42:12that
42:12honestly
42:12but
42:13you know
42:14what
42:14Alyssa
42:15said
42:15is
42:15really
42:15true
42:15that's
42:16what
42:16I
42:17also
42:17believe
42:17in
42:17it's
42:17about
42:18having
42:18that
42:18strong
42:19foundation
42:19the
42:19strong
42:20family
42:21background
42:23strong
42:23relationships
42:24with
42:24their
42:24peers
42:25I
42:25think
42:26and
42:27enough
42:28experience
42:29and
42:29enough
42:29I guess
42:30self-esteem
42:31to feel
42:32confident
42:32in themselves
42:33to not
42:34be sweet
42:34in their
42:35own
42:35values
42:35so
42:35they
42:36won't
42:36be
42:36the
42:37pengaruh
42:38by
42:38outside
42:39factors
42:39true
42:40because
42:41people
42:41we feel
42:41like
42:41when we
42:42are
42:42physically
42:43at home
42:43we are
42:43in a
42:44safe
42:44space
42:44safe
42:45environment
42:45we don't
42:46know
42:46what is
42:46actually
42:47happening
42:47behind
42:48the
42:48screens
42:49right
42:51in
42:52today's
42:53world
42:55we feel
42:56like
42:57we're
42:58safe
42:58but
42:59we don't
43:00know
43:00what's
43:00going
43:01on
43:02so
43:02like
43:03for
43:03you
43:03like
43:04I
43:04cakap
43:04tadi
43:04influential
43:05people
43:05yang
43:06mungkin
43:07bukan
43:07orang
43:07yang
43:07patut
43:08kita
43:09look up
43:09to
43:10lah
43:10tapi
43:10they
43:10are
43:10famous
43:11and then
43:12these
43:12kids
43:12look up
43:13to
43:13them
43:13macam
43:13mana
43:14you
43:14handle
43:15your
43:16kids
43:17I
43:18know
43:20very
43:20hard
43:21you
43:21tengah
43:21flash
43:21flash
43:22flash
43:23I
43:26pernah
43:27lah
43:27dulu
43:27kan
43:28oh
43:28Mika
43:29kalau
43:30influencer
43:31ni datang
43:31kan
43:32ni
43:32ni
43:32adalah
43:33influencer
43:33youtube
43:34kan
43:34lepas tu
43:35I
43:35macam
43:35kutuk
43:36influencer
43:36tu
43:37kan
43:37I
43:37macam
43:37kutuk
43:38dia
43:38kan
43:38tak
43:38bagus
43:39lah
43:39ya Allah
43:40dia boleh
43:40marah
43:41dia
43:41tak
43:41bercakap
43:42dengan
43:42semua
43:42kan
43:42lepas tu
43:43sebab
43:43you
43:44cakap
43:44bahas
43:44tu
43:45I
43:45punya
43:46risau
43:46sebab
43:46saya
43:47kata
43:47eh
43:48macam
43:48mana
43:48ni
43:48boleh
43:49jadi
43:49benda
43:50ni
43:50so
43:50I
43:51berbincang
43:51dengan
43:51few
43:52my
43:52friends
43:52semua
43:52kan
43:53lepas tu
43:55I
43:55tarik
43:56balik
43:56minat
43:57apa
43:57yang
43:58I
43:59mengkaji
43:59siapa
44:00influencer
44:01ni
44:01daripada
44:02overseas
44:02lah kan
44:03I
44:04kaji
44:04balik
44:04apa
44:05sebab
44:05dia
44:06punya
44:06background
44:07semua
44:08kan
44:08so
44:08bercerita
44:09balik
44:10sebenarnya
44:10banyak
44:11benda
44:11sebenarnya
44:11kena
44:12buat
44:12sebenarnya
44:12you kena
44:13mengkaji
44:13benda
44:14yang
44:14tak
44:14sepatutnya
44:14you
44:14kaji
44:15you
44:15tahu
44:15tak
44:16faham
44:16tak
44:17kita
44:17sebenarnya
44:18as parents
44:18kita pun
44:21belajar
44:22banyak
44:22benda
44:22daripada
44:23orang
44:23sometimes
44:24benda
44:24yang
44:25macam
44:25okey lah
44:25contohlah
44:27the brand
44:28Ryan
44:28Toysers
44:29tu kan
44:29lepas tu
44:30I
44:30kena
44:31I
44:32kena
44:32tahu
44:33siapa
44:33Ryan
44:34tu
44:34siapa
44:34bapak
44:34tu
44:35siapa
44:35ini
44:35siapa
44:35ini
44:35apa
44:36yang
44:36dia
44:36buat
44:37macam
44:37sekarang
44:37ni
44:38yang
44:38youtube
44:39yang
44:40roblox
44:40semua kan
44:41so I kena tahu
44:42siapa
44:42orang ni
44:43berapa juta
44:44sebulan
44:45dia punya
44:46so I kena tahu
44:47benda tu
44:47supaya
44:49I dengan
44:49anak I
44:50senang
44:50ok
44:51yang ini
44:51I kata
44:52oh tidak
44:52sebab
44:53my son
44:55kalau you kata
44:56tidak
44:56why
44:57dia akan
44:58tanya
44:58kenapa
44:59kalau
45:00ya
45:00dan kenapa
45:02dia orang dah
45:02besar
45:03dia orang dah
45:04pandai
45:05kena
45:06benda tu
45:07yang I kena
45:07belajar tu
45:08so macam
45:09sebenarnya
45:10okey lah
45:10sebenarnya
45:11I think
45:12reasoning
45:12with
45:13your
45:13child
45:13is
45:13also
45:14a
45:14thing
45:14that
45:14we
45:14should
45:15talk
45:16about
45:16the
45:16amount
45:17of
45:17things
45:18that
45:18we
45:18have
45:18to
45:18explain
45:19to
45:19them
45:19how
45:20do
45:20you
45:20reason
45:21with
45:21your
45:21child
45:21Audrey
45:22when
45:23they
45:23have
45:23all
45:23these
45:23questions
45:24why
45:25I
45:26will
45:26tell
45:27them
45:27we will
45:28learn
45:28together
45:29if it's
45:29something
45:29that I
45:30don't
45:30know
45:30about
45:30because
45:30again
45:31it
45:32doesn't
45:32work
45:33like
45:33if
45:34I
45:34just
45:35have
45:35a
45:35rule
45:35and
45:35say
45:35you
45:36have
45:36to
45:36follow
45:36this
45:36it
45:36doesn't
45:36work
45:37so
45:37what
45:38we
45:38do
45:38is
45:38that
45:38we
45:39really
45:39have
45:40family
45:40discussion
45:41so
45:41we
45:41have
45:41family
45:41discussion
45:42about
45:42screen
45:42time
45:42then
45:43I
45:43ask
45:44them
45:44to
45:44recommend
45:44if
45:44they
45:44say
45:45half an hour
45:45is too
45:46little
45:46then
45:47you
45:47recommend
45:48how much
45:49do you
45:49think
45:49you
45:49should
45:49get
45:49and
45:50why
45:50you
45:50tell
45:50me
45:50why
45:50so
45:51I
45:52give
45:52them
45:52a chance
45:52to
45:53think
45:53for
45:53themselves
45:53and
45:54to
45:54practice
45:55their
45:55argument
45:55skills
45:56debate
45:59critical
45:59thinking
46:00sometimes
46:01I
46:01have
46:01to
46:02plan
46:02with
46:02my
46:02husband
46:03first
46:03what
46:03do
46:04we
46:04tell
46:04them
46:05now
46:06we
46:06prepare
46:07for
46:07this
46:07answer
46:08but
46:09they're
46:09very
46:09smart
46:10they're
46:10very
46:11smart
46:11but
46:12it
46:12should
46:12be
46:12like
46:12that
46:13because
46:13I
46:13don't
46:13want
46:13them
46:14to
46:14blindly
46:14follow
46:15rules
46:15outside
46:15also
46:16I
46:16want
46:16them
46:16to
46:16think
46:16for
46:17themselves
46:17and
46:18make
46:18good
46:18critical
46:19thinking
46:20but
46:21then
46:21they're
46:21critical
46:21thinking
46:22with
46:22us
46:22but
46:23it's
46:23okay
46:23if
46:24they
46:24have
46:24a
46:25good
46:25point
46:25then
46:25why
46:26not
46:26I
46:27open
46:27yeah
46:27okay
46:28so
46:31what
46:31message
46:32that
46:35you can
46:36tell
46:36for
46:36parents
46:37young
46:37whether
46:38kids
46:39use
46:39digital
46:40platforms
46:41what
46:41message
46:41that
46:42you
46:42can
46:42tell
46:42them
46:43I
46:44think
46:44to
46:44parents
46:44is
46:45to
46:45stay
46:45curious
46:46not
46:46fearful
46:46so
46:47when
46:47you're
46:48kind
46:49of
46:49like
46:49behaving
46:49outside
46:50of
46:50fear
46:50you
46:50limit
46:51everything
46:51you
46:51kind
46:52of
46:52have
46:52put
46:52a
46:52stop
46:52to
46:53everything
46:53or
46:53when
46:53you're
46:54too
46:54overwhelmed
46:54you just
46:55don't
46:55do
46:55anything
46:55anymore
46:56because
46:56you're
46:56like
46:56I
46:56don't
46:56know
46:56what
46:57to
46:57do
46:57right
46:57yeah
46:58give up
46:59so
46:59it's
46:59like
46:59it's
47:00to stay
47:00curious
47:00about
47:01what
47:01they're
47:01doing
47:02what
47:02they're
47:02watching
47:03so
47:03to
47:03kind
47:03of
47:04like
47:04delve
47:04into
47:05their
47:05world
47:05so
47:06if
47:06you
47:06if
47:07they
47:07think
47:08if
47:08you
47:08have
47:08that
47:09relationship
47:09with
47:09them
47:10that
47:10they
47:10can
47:10come
47:11to
47:11you
47:11if
47:11there's
47:11anything
47:12anything
47:12that's
47:13like
47:13a very
47:14protective
47:14factor
47:15already
47:15the
47:16relationship
47:17is very
47:17important
47:18right
47:18because
47:19if
47:19they
47:19can
47:20bully
47:21or
47:21they
47:21get upset
47:22over
47:22something
47:22they
47:22can
47:23come
47:23to
47:23you
47:23and
47:24they
47:24can
47:24talk
47:26to
47:26you
47:26and
47:26you
47:27can
47:27problem
47:27solve
47:27together
47:28because
47:28they
47:29might
47:29not
47:29be
47:29able
47:29to
47:30handle
47:30that
47:30like
47:31they
47:31don't
47:32have
47:32much
47:32experience
47:33so
47:33you
47:34may
47:34have
47:35a lot
47:35of
47:35experience
47:36in
47:36your
47:36life
47:36already
47:37and
47:37then
47:37you
47:37can
47:38share
47:38those
47:38things
47:39and
47:39can
47:39discuss
47:40about
47:41it
47:41yeah
47:41maybe
47:42from
47:42Audrey
47:43what
47:44message
47:44that
47:45you
47:45can
47:45tell
47:45other
47:46parents
47:47quite
47:48similar
47:49like
47:50for me
47:50I
47:50always
47:51feel
47:51that
47:51the
47:52best
47:52tool
47:52that
47:53we
47:53have
47:53as
47:53parents
47:54is
47:54our
47:54relationship
47:54with
47:55our
47:55children
47:55like
47:56if
47:56we
47:56have
47:56a
47:57very
47:58you
47:58know
47:58a
47:58strong
47:58relationship
47:59where
47:59there's
48:00a lot
48:00of
48:00mutual
48:00love
48:01and
48:01trust
48:01right
48:02then
48:02we
48:02can
48:03we
48:03can
48:03really
48:04influence
48:04them
48:04towards
48:05the
48:05right
48:05path
48:06yeah
48:06because
48:07that's
48:07what
48:07we
48:07want
48:07them
48:08to do
48:08we
48:08just
48:09want
48:09to
48:09get
48:09them
48:09on
48:10the
48:10right
48:10path
48:10and
48:10raise
48:11them
48:11up
48:11to
48:11be
48:11good
48:12adults
48:13yeah
48:13true
48:14yeah
48:16Cheryl
48:17apa
48:18advice
48:18you
48:19boleh
48:19bagi
48:19kepada
48:20parents
48:21dekat
48:21luar
48:22sana
48:22macam
48:24for
48:24you
48:24you
48:25give
48:26access
48:26tapi
48:26you
48:27pantau
48:27so
48:28mungkin
48:29kepada parents
48:29yang
48:30seperti
48:30you
48:30tapi
48:31mungkin
48:31kurang
48:32pantauan
48:32ke
48:32apa
48:33yang
48:33you
48:33boleh
48:34share
48:35apa
48:35yang
48:36you
48:36buat
48:36ok
48:37kalau
48:37macam
48:37untuk
48:38I
48:38sendiri
48:38lah
48:38kan
48:39sebab
48:39mungkin
48:39pekerjaan
48:40I
48:40melalui
48:41media
48:41sosial
48:42so
48:44everything
48:44I
48:44tahu
48:45pasal
48:45media
48:45sosial
48:47I
48:47rasa
48:48untuk
48:49parents
48:49you
48:50kena
48:51sekurang-kurangnya
48:52you
48:52kena
48:52belajar
48:53apa
48:53itu
48:54media
48:54sosial
48:55apa
48:55itu
48:55instagram
48:56apa
48:56itu
48:57youtube
48:57apa
48:57itu
48:57thread
48:58apa
48:58itu
48:58tiktok
48:59apa
49:00semualah
49:00benda
49:00ni
49:01semualah
49:02you
49:02kena
49:02belajar
49:02setiap
49:03media
49:04sosial
49:04tu
49:04bukannya
49:05untuk
49:05I
49:05macam
49:06ok lah
49:06you
49:06anak
49:06seorang
49:07you
49:07boleh
49:07buat
49:08tapi
49:09betul
49:09macam
49:10sebelum
49:11datang
49:11tadi
49:11my
49:11friend
49:12kata
49:12kalau
49:12anak
49:13lima
49:13macam
49:13mana
49:13you
49:13nak
49:14pantau
49:15so
49:16sebenarnya
49:16media
49:17sosial
49:18ni
49:18ada
49:18kebaikan
49:19dan
49:19ada
49:20keburukan
49:20so
49:22bermula
49:23I
49:23rasa
49:23semua
49:24dalam
49:24dunia
49:24ni
49:25sekarang
49:25ni
49:25I
49:25rasa
49:25semua
49:26dah
49:26ada
49:26media
49:26sosial
49:26kan
49:27semua
49:27masing-masing
49:28ada
49:28media
49:28sosial
49:29anak
49:30akan
49:30ikut
49:31apa
49:31yang
49:32mak
49:32bapak
49:32buat
49:32so
49:33kalau
49:34dalam
49:34media
49:34sosial
49:34tu
49:35you
49:35merentan
49:35anak
49:36pun
49:37ikut
49:37merentan
49:38kalau
49:39you
49:39media
49:39sosial
49:39you
49:39bagus
49:40you
49:41macam
49:41ok
49:41media
49:41sosial
49:42you
49:42begini
49:42untuk
49:42kerja
49:43kerja
49:43sahaja
49:44kalau
49:44personal
49:45you
49:45macam
49:45merentan
49:46akan
49:46ikut
49:47semua
49:48benda
49:48dia nak
49:48share
49:48itulah
49:50maksud
49:50saya
49:50bukanlah
49:52penasihat
49:52yang
49:52bagus
49:53tidak
49:53tapi
49:54saya
49:54rasa
49:54dari
49:55pengalaman
49:56saya
49:56ibarat
49:57dia
49:57kata
49:58menurut
49:59bunda
50:02so
50:04i
50:05think
50:05kita
50:05dah
50:05sampai
50:06di
50:06penghujung
50:07podcast
50:08thank you
50:08so much
50:09each
50:09and
50:09every
50:09one
50:09of
50:10you
50:10for
50:10sharing
50:10i
50:12think
50:12what
50:12emerges
50:12from
50:13this
50:13conversation
50:13is
50:14not
50:15a
50:15simple
50:15conclusion
50:16betul
50:17tak
50:17kita
50:17tak
50:17boleh
50:17nak
50:17bagi
50:18jawapan
50:18yang
50:20final
50:20right
50:21it's
50:22a
50:22layered
50:22reality
50:23complex
50:24messy
50:25but
50:25it
50:26is
50:26real
50:26dia
50:27adalah
50:27dunia
50:27nyata
50:28kita
50:28sekarang
50:28ni
50:29and
50:29we
50:29listen
50:30to
50:30Alyssa
50:31Audrey
50:31and
50:32Cheryl
50:32thank
50:33you
50:33so
50:34much
50:34for
50:34sharing
50:35your
50:35thoughts
50:35and
50:35opinions
50:36with
50:36us
50:36i hope
50:37you
50:38guys
50:38enjoy
50:38this
50:38podcast
50:39i'll
50:40see you
50:40on
50:41the
50:41next
50:41episode
50:42jangan
50:42lupa
50:43follow
50:43family
50:44podcast
50:44semua
50:45social
50:45media
50:45platform
50:46assalamualaikum
50:47bye
50:48bye
50:49bye
50:49bye
50:59Let's go.
51:24Let's go.
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