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Stefan Molyneux
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Twitter Space 30 June 2025

In this episode, I engage with callers on personal and societal topics, highlighting the importance of meaningful dialogue and community support. We discuss recognizing personal expertise, the impact of social media on discourse, and the role of positive role models amid societal challenges. Parenting is emphasized as crucial for shaping values in future generations, and we explore personal challenges, including overcoming trauma and the influence of familial support. I also reflect on my novel, "The Future," underscoring literature's power to present moral dilemmas and foster community growth through thoughtful engagement.


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Transcript
00:00:00All right. What do I want to talk about? What do I want to talk about? Hello, everybody.
00:00:04Welcome to a little bit of time that I have to chat with you all, which is a great, deep,
00:00:09and wonderful pleasure in my life. And thank you so much for joining. Thank you so much for
00:00:13your support of philosophy at freedomain.com slash donate. But enough of the donation requests.
00:00:21If you have questions, comments, issues, challenges, problems, disagreements, whatever
00:00:24you like. I certainly have some thoughts, which I would like to share. But if we have
00:00:31eager requirements for anything that I can be of use for, please raise your hand and request.
00:00:39I can, of course, simply chat and go from there. So I'll just wait for a second in case anybody's
00:00:47got a yearning burning that doesn't require a doctor and a shot. We can do a brain and
00:00:54a chat, a brain and a chat. All right. So just while I wait for the sort of people to come
00:00:59up as a bit, you know, never complain, never explain. Like I get all of that and I sympathize
00:01:05with that. But let me tell you, my friends, people seem to misunderstand this a lot. So
00:01:12I'll speak on it once and then forever hold my peace. And it goes a little something like
00:01:17this. So let's say that I have, I don't know, what is it? 420,000 followers or whatever,
00:01:24right? And you know, it's been going pretty well. And of course, thanks to everyone for
00:01:28supporting and sharing what it is that I do. And so having a big follow account, I mean,
00:01:35it's not that big, right? It's not big, not tiny. It's not that big. But let's say having
00:01:38a medium, having a medium sized follow account does not have me win any arguments except how
00:01:46to have a medium sized follow account. Right? You follow? So when people say to me, Steph,
00:01:53you need to do this, that or the other on X. Well, I'm curious and I will go and I will have a look
00:02:01at that person's account. And I, someone had a couple hundred followers. One guy who'd been
00:02:08around for a long time had four 4,100 followers. Now, I don't care 4,100 followers. Maybe that's
00:02:15your thing. Maybe it's a tight group of quality people, but not tighter and more quality than this
00:02:20group of people. But I don't care that you have a small following. It doesn't mean that you're
00:02:27right or wrong about anything except, except how to be effective on X. That is the one,
00:02:36one grand exception. So for instance, if you are 300 pounds
00:02:40and you're telling me about quantum physics, I don't get to say, well, you're wrong because you're 300
00:02:51pounds. But if you tell me, Steph, dieting is really important, being a healthy weight is really
00:02:58important, and I have the best diet, and I know the best how to lose weight, I'm going to say,
00:03:05but you're 300 pounds. So where there is a congruence or a match between what you're telling
00:03:14other people to do and what you clearly haven't done, that's going to be taken note of.
00:03:21I mean, I'm bald, and if I'm talking to you about philosophy, the fact that I'm bald
00:03:29is immaterial. Solar powered sex machine, not solar powered thought machine. However,
00:03:34if I'm trying to sell hair restoration products, and I'm bald, people are going to say, but you're
00:03:41bald. Now, it's not an ad hominem, not an ad hominem to say to me, you're bald. If what I'm doing
00:03:51is trying to sell or hawk hair restoration products, because if it's really important
00:03:56to restore your hair, and I know exactly how to do it, and it's safe, why wouldn't I have done it?
00:04:03So it is not, it's an ad hominem to say, Steph, you're wrong about morals, because you're bald,
00:04:08that's an ad hominem, sure. But when it's directly related to what it is that you're talking about,
00:04:15sure, of course we judge a book by its cover, of course we do.
00:04:21We judge a diet book by the person who's on the cover, and if the person who's on the cover of
00:04:26a diet book is 300 pounds, we don't buy it. Ah, Steph, but logically, come on, let's all be
00:04:32reasonable about this. Somebody who's trying to sell you makeup, right, the model who's trying
00:04:40to sell you makeup isn't going to have crappy skin. Someone who's trying to sell you hair care products
00:04:44isn't going to have crappy hair. And so when people come on X, and they say to me,
00:04:54Steph, you need to do this out of the other on social media, hey, okay, fine. But then they better
00:05:01have a good follow account. And I have, of course, taken advice over the years from people with big
00:05:06follow accounts, and that advice has been very helpful. But when someone comes at me kind of
00:05:10snarky about what I should or shouldn't be doing to be effective and to increase my reach on social
00:05:16media, of course I'm going to go and look at their follow account. And the reason why this is important
00:05:23is that if we don't push that there is expertise, we end up with socialism. Oh, does that sound like
00:05:31a stretch? It might, but give me a moment and I will tell you what I mean. So when you really
00:05:38understand how good people are at some things, then you'll understand why they're very popular,
00:05:48why they have a big follow account, why they make money, why their albums sell and other people's
00:05:54albums don't sell and so on, right? So a classic example, of course, is what's considered by some the
00:06:00best live performance in history, which is Queen at Live Aid. And if I, you know, occasionally I'll do
00:06:12karaoke and occasionally I'll get some applause. Yeah, you know, whatever, right? I'm a decent,
00:06:17amateur, okay singer, whatever, right? And I like to perform. So I go to karaoke and I think once or
00:06:24twice, oh yeah, no, no, two or three times I've actually sung in front of people in a more formal
00:06:28event and it's all good natured, goofy fun. I'm not much of a vocalist, but I enjoy doing it and
00:06:34people seem to enjoy the passion, if not necessarily the expertise. So if I'm reasonably well received at
00:06:41karaoke, I don't go up and lecture Freddie Mercury on how to perform in front of people because Freddie
00:06:46Mercury has performed in front of 300,000 people in Brazil. Well, Queen as a whole, but Freddie Mercury is
00:06:52the front man. It's not like anyone's looking at John Deacon, right? So I might tell Freddie Mercury
00:06:59if he was still alive, here's some expertise I have in the realm of philosophy if he was interested,
00:07:05but I'm not going to tell the guy how to perform because that would be an idiotic thing to do.
00:07:12Now, of course, I'm taking extreme examples just to sort of reinforce the point.
00:07:15I'm a reasonably decent chess player, but I'm not going to go up to a grandmaster and tell him how
00:07:24to play because it's ridiculous. And it's really important to push back on this kind of vanity
00:07:33in people. And if it's any consolation, it's also good to push back against this kind of vanity in
00:07:39ourselves. This arrogance, because, you know, we're all the main players in our movies and
00:07:45so on. And maybe this is a British thing. It could be. I spent my formative years in England.
00:07:54So, I mean, I saw all the different classes because I was in a really kind of broke-ass
00:08:01rent-controlled apartment, a flat. And then I also went to boarding school for a couple of years
00:08:07and mixed with the hoity-toities. That was sort of funded by my father and then not funded by my
00:08:13father. But anyway, so I grew up in England. And in England, embarrassment is, you know,
00:08:23this is what the word cringe, you know, it's cringe that it comes out of. And cringe is sort of an NPC
00:08:27control word for the most part. But the idea that I would go and lecture someone who was much better
00:08:35at something than I was would be horribly embarrassing.
00:08:43And it would also indicate what's called the Dunning-Kruger effect. The Dunning-Kruger effect is
00:08:49if you're not good at something, it's hard for you to recognize how good someone is. So, for instance,
00:08:55I know almost nothing about surgery.
00:08:57Surgery. So, if I'm watching someone perform a surgery, I really have no idea how good or bad
00:09:05they are, because I don't know what's going on. I don't know if they should be cutting there. I
00:09:08don't know if that was a good or bad cut. I don't know if it's a good or bad sew-up. I don't know if
00:09:12they got everything they needed to. I don't know, because I don't know much about surgery.
00:09:15So, I don't know who's good or bad at surgery. So, I don't try to figure that stuff out. I just
00:09:28sit back and, oh, okay, well, I don't watch surgery, because I don't really know much about it.
00:09:32When I first came to Canada, and I didn't grow up with ice hockey or anything like that. So,
00:09:38when I first came to Canada, I watched hockey. And I'd be like, what do you mean icing? It's all
00:09:49icing, right? I mean, there's still things I don't particularly understand about American football
00:09:55or basketball. These are two sports I've never really played. And I don't really, I mean,
00:10:00I can give you all the finer points of tennis and stuff, cricket, I guess, even still, but
00:10:04I just don't know. So, I'm not going to judge, because I don't know.
00:10:11And it's important to assert your expertise in life, and to recognize other people's expertise.
00:10:20So, Mike Cernovich is, like, great at posting and engagement. He walks a great line that,
00:10:27you know, you could say, I didn't, or whatever, right? It's different choices. I'm not going to
00:10:32go to Mike Cernovich and say to him, hey, you need to do X, Y, and Z, right? Even though,
00:10:41you know, I don't know how much, who's got two or three times my follow account. Now,
00:10:45admittedly, I've been away for a while, but I mean, he's very good. Whatever you think of the
00:10:49content, I think the content's actually good, but he's really good at social media.
00:10:55Alex Jones, what I see the other day, Alex Jones was having a live stream that had, like, 350,000
00:11:01people watching, right? Am I going to go to Alex Jones and say, well, Alex, well, Alex, you see,
00:11:10here's what you need to do to be more effective at live streaming.
00:11:14Oh, I mean, you know, I'm, I could talk to people about philosophy, but I don't go to people
00:11:22like objectively and demonstrably better or having a better effect than I've had in certain areas and
00:11:30lecture them on how to improve. So just, just so you know, right? I mean, it's not because I have,
00:11:41I mean, I don't care about people's follow account. I care about their arguments. I don't
00:11:44care about the follow account and somebody can be on X and not want to grow their follow account
00:11:48much at all. That's fine. But if somebody is going to tell me how to be good at social media
00:11:54and they have no followers, I'm going to say, that's ridiculous.
00:12:03And that's important because when people think they're better than they are or sort of stride
00:12:08around, cock of the walk, as we used to say, then that's abrasive and annoying. And what happens,
00:12:15of course, is that quality people don't want to spend time with them. I mean, come on, we've all,
00:12:21yeah, let's be honest, right? We've all had that friend, maybe we've been that friend, but we've all
00:12:25had that friend who, you know, from the comfort of their armchair knows exactly how other people
00:12:34should do stuff better. Well, what he should have done is she should have done more cough work
00:12:40before going out on the field. Yeah, they shouldn't have tried that reggae sound, man,
00:12:47that sucked. I would have gone with country. You know, and these are people who haven't really
00:12:52achieved much of anything. There's an old, I remember this from when I was younger and it sort
00:12:57of reminded me always of the scene in Atlas Shrugged at Hugh Axon's restaurant. Anyway, so,
00:13:08and I was always kind of terrified when I was younger, I might end up like this guy.
00:13:11And I'll get your questions in just a second. I'm almost done. I appreciate your patience.
00:13:15But
00:13:15there's a diner and there's a guy down at the end of the diamond. He's kind of unshaven. He's kind of
00:13:24greasy-haired. He's clutching a coffee, nursing a coffee, doesn't want to finish it because he
00:13:28maybe can't afford another one. And boy, oh boy, does he have the solution to all the world's
00:13:33problems. Whew! Man, he's got it down. He has got it down. Any question that comes up, he's got an
00:13:41answer. To which, of course, some people might say, then why are you a greasy-haired guy in shabby old
00:13:49clothes sitting at the end of the diner, unable to afford another cup of coffee?
00:13:58Assert your expertise in the things that you're good at. Do not let people encroach upon your
00:14:02territory of expertise. Do not encroach on other people's territory of expertise.
00:14:09And I was talking the other day, I was playing pickleball with some friends and next to me,
00:14:16at the court, we had a pickleball court, and then next to me was a tennis court. And on the tennis
00:14:20court were four guys staggeringly good at tennis. Like, holy crap. I mean, serves like a bullet,
00:14:26backhands that just soared over the net just perfectly. And the idea that I would go and
00:14:31lecture them about how to play tennis, I would be, I would die. I would die. I would melt into the ground.
00:14:38And don't encroach them. Like, I could learn from them. I can watch them and learn from them.
00:14:46But the idea I'm going to pump, well, you need to hold your racket this way. It's like,
00:14:51I don't, don't encroach upon people's expertise. Yeah, have conversations with them,
00:14:55learn with them, enjoy what it is that they do. But my God.
00:15:00Oh, I mean, this used to happen sometimes when I was in the theater world,
00:15:06the people would just be bitching and moaning about some very successful actor. Oh, he's not
00:15:10that good. It's like, but he's successful. Yeah, but, but, but it's like, well,
00:15:16you know, I mean, it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger, was he going to play Hamlet? No. I mean,
00:15:21he brings a certain persona and character to his character. It's like Brad Pitt now to become
00:15:26kind of like a caricature of the Marlboro Man, right? So they're good at what they do. People want
00:15:32to see them and they get to tell stories that other people don't to a much wider audience.
00:15:38And you have to assert your expertise because if you don't assert your expertise, people don't
00:15:44understand why some people are more successful than others. And if they don't understand why some
00:15:49people are more successful than others, then they end up being socialists. All right. So I appreciate
00:15:53that. Thank you for your patience, Zach. You are on the air and in my ear. You'll need to unmute.
00:16:02What's on your mind, brother? Hello. How are you? I'm well. How are you doing? I'm really good.
00:16:11Thank you. I'm really good. Long-term listener. I love the call-ins. It's great to see you on X.
00:16:17I was just thinking about what you were saying in terms of putting forward your expertise. I'm
00:16:25finding that in my field of work in IT, I'm getting lots of staff inside organizations like
00:16:33graphic designers doing our work. I find a lot of level one support requests are being handled
00:16:44by ChatGPT. I basically feel like the industry is almost evaporating before my very eyes, but
00:16:51it is difficult when they have these tools to do their own troubleshooting and they tell
00:16:59you what you need to do. And it's that asserting my expertise is like, no, you guys stick to
00:17:05graphic design and 3D animating and I'll do what I do, which is take care of the computers
00:17:10and the security and things like that. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine you run some
00:17:15complicated cross-border business with a whole bevy of lawyers and accountants and you as the
00:17:20manager, you're going to argue with your lawyers and accountants? No.
00:17:24No, I don't argue with my lawyer at all.
00:17:26Yeah. I mean, my God, then this is okay. You say jump, I say how high. Yeah, absolutely. I mean,
00:17:32so just this idea that we, I mean, am I going to argue with my dentist? I mean, I don't know if
00:17:36my dentist keeps making me lose teeth. Maybe I'll move dentist, but just having respect for
00:17:41expertise seems to be a thing gone. And I think it has a lot to do with the sort of feminization
00:17:45of youth that's going on, like just an absolute cloying and there's nothing wrong. Women are
00:17:51absolute cheerleaders and that's great. If you've been around, you know, I don't know if you have
00:17:57babies or kids or whatever, but you know, when your kid does, when your kid does the slightest
00:18:01little thing, the women are all like, yay, good job. Well done. Good job. And it's beautiful.
00:18:08It's beautiful. Oh, he learned to roll over. Yay. Good. You, you caught the ball. Wow. You can roll
00:18:13the ball back to me. Beautiful. And they're just thrilled at every breathing, waking moment. And
00:18:21it's beautiful. And then about the age of five, six, seven, eight, six, somewhere in there,
00:18:28the kids are supposed to, especially the boys, they're supposed to be turned over to the men.
00:18:36Right. And what are the men supposed to do if the kid is bad at something? That's not good.
00:18:44That's really bad because everyone learns how to roll over. Everyone learns how to sit up. Everyone
00:18:51learns how to roll a ball back. Everyone learns how to feed themselves with a spoon, right? So the
00:18:57enthusiasm is fine. But after the basic skills are mastered, you split into people who are really
00:19:03good, people who are okay, and people who are bad. And men need to be the custodians and champions of
00:19:10that sorting process. You know, it's kind of funny how there's a sorting process in Harry Potter with
00:19:16the hat and all that. It's completely random, right? So women are, you know, boosters. I'm going to say
00:19:22mindless because it's, you know, it's appropriate to babies and toddlers. You want them to get excited
00:19:27about learning basic skills. But after the basic skills have been learned, yay, you made the letter
00:19:33A. Oh, that's great. But publishers have to be, you're not a good writer. Right? So, you know, every,
00:19:41you know, the first time your kid hits a ball with a bat, you're thrilled. Yay, great job. Wow. However, that's not how the
00:19:47major league baseball works. Major league baseball is like, you suck. You're going down to the minor
00:19:54leagues, right? Go ahead. So, Stefan, what age do you sort of see that where a boy in particular would
00:20:01be, you know, going from being, you know, under the mother's tit to being into, I thought that was
00:20:09from like 10 in the teenage years from my, yeah. Well, traditionally, I'm sort of thinking about
00:20:15Judaism seven or so, or the age of reason about seven, the age of moral responsibility. It really
00:20:21depends, I suppose. I sort of said sort of five through eight, and it depends on the kid to some
00:20:26degree. It depends on whether it's a boy or a girl. But yeah, just this mindless boosterism. The male
00:20:32world is a raw meritocracy. The female world is enforced egalitarianism. And again, absolutely beautiful
00:20:39for both men and for women. We have, as together as a, as a zygote team, we have created the greatest
00:20:47thing in the universe, which is the human mind. But yeah, it is always a shock when meritocracy
00:20:54is asserted. So, when someone lectures me about something I'm good at and they're bad at,
00:21:03I need to tell them. I need, no, it's, it's unkind. It's unkind.
00:21:09How do you, like, when you're in a consulting sort of IT provider, external party to a business
00:21:15and you have that happening, what, what's a, what's a, what's a reasonable way to actually,
00:21:20uh, uh, uh, handle that situation where they are telling you how to suck eggs? Um, and you
00:21:27say, well, hang on, you guys, I get paid either way. Um, if you want to tell me how to do my
00:21:32job, you know, how, how would you, how would, okay, no, no, give me, give me a, it's too
00:21:36abstract. Give me a more concrete example. Um, so, uh, this particular client, they're
00:21:42in growing pains. They've got about six staff, you know, they're on the, on track to have
00:21:48about a hundred staff and, and that's sort of a, sort of a turning point for some of these
00:21:52organizations going from a small business to a medium sized business. And, and so, for
00:21:57example, they really, you know, they've got, they've got, um, admin staff saving all their
00:22:03passwords in spreadsheets and they've got graphic designers creating pretty word documents for
00:22:08passwords where, you know, management are struggling to understand that they need to
00:22:12actually have a, okay. I don't want, I don't want the laundry list of problems. Give me a
00:22:17particular problem where you get a, a, a pushback and you have expertise. Um, so they want to
00:22:26implement a, a system that was from 20 years ago, um, that Microsoft had and you
00:22:33needed to have on-prem, um, on-prem equipment to use. Um, it's no longer, uh, it's not, it's
00:22:40not something you would ever put in as a solution anymore. You would need to use the
00:22:44Microsoft, uh, cloud systems to, to utilize and you'd need to have your license or
00:22:51organization. It would go for, you'd almost triple your licensing costs just for one
00:22:56document to be protected. But because they were using ChatGPT and arguing with
00:23:00us about that, it became quite difficult to, like they were fighting me because
00:23:06they were copying and pasting what our responses were into ChatGPT and saying,
00:23:10oh no, you could just do it this way. Is that too, um, well, okay. So, I mean, the way
00:23:16that you would do that is, is, uh, you would, uh, you'd measure it, right? Okay. So
00:23:21copying and pasting takes five seconds times X number of employees times X number
00:23:26of people today. And this is the hourly rate and this is their overhead. And you'd
00:23:30say, okay, this is costing you guys, uh, you know, uh, $4.8 million a year, right?
00:23:37No. So something like you, you, you have to slice and dice, right? And then, and then
00:23:41you say, okay, but if you do it my way, it's a million dollars a year, $3.8 million a
00:23:45year. If you've got the facts, I mean, they can't really argue the facts. Like I've
00:23:48literally watched people do this. I've timed them and I know how many times it
00:23:51happens. And so this is a bad solution. And if they fight back, then say, have you
00:23:58done this before? Have you done this kind of upgrade before? And if they say no, say,
00:24:03well, I have done 12 of them. So I have to, I have to benevolently, I have to benevolently
00:24:12assert my expertise. I understand it's tough because, you know, when you're a, when
00:24:18you're a small entrepreneur, you do everything yourself and you do everything better than
00:24:22everyone else in general. Right. And so, uh, you know, I understand it's tough for you
00:24:26to recognize that somebody else might be better at something. I, I, I understand that I sympathize
00:24:31and I, I get it, but, but it's true. And so, you know, part of growing a business is surrendering
00:24:38to other people's expertise because as a founder, you might be able to do just about everything
00:24:42in a five person shop or even a 10 person shop, but 30, 50, 80, a hundred, like I've grown
00:24:47a company from me and a guy to like 35 people. So no, not major entrepreneur stuff, but not
00:24:53bad. And so if people haven't done it before, just say, I am the expert. Here are the numbers.
00:25:01I've done it 12 times. You haven't done it once. And I've also seen people who can't let
00:25:07go of control and trust other people's expertise. It cripples the company because people can't
00:25:12grow. And if you're a control freak, so to speak, or if you've got your finger in every
00:25:15pie, competent people don't want you nagging them and looking over their shoulders. So
00:25:19it's not even trust me, bro. It's like, I've got the numbers. I've got the history. This
00:25:23is exactly what you're paying for. Take the expertise.
00:25:28Wow. Yeah, that's, that's, that's awesome.
00:25:31Awesome.
00:25:32All right. Well, listen, I appreciate your call and thank you so much for dropping by. I'm going
00:25:36to have some cool stuff to talk about on X shortly and you're welcome, of course, anytime.
00:25:41And I wish you the best. All right. Stev, Stev, what's on your mind, friend?
00:25:50Oh, is that me?
00:25:51Yes. Unless there's another Stev in your left pocket. Go ahead.
00:25:56Um, you guys, um, I just jumped in. I didn't hear too much of the conversation, but, um,
00:26:02that's it. You can talk about whatever you want. You don't, you don't have to talk about
00:26:04my lead. That's just a benevolent filler. Go ahead.
00:26:07All right. I definitely have something I want to tell others. It was great to see you
00:26:11on, um, X again, Stefan. I have, uh, I remember you got shadow banned and then, uh, I saw your
00:26:18post randomly in my feed. I'm like, Holy shit. Stefan, Stefan's on, uh, uh, Twitter again.
00:26:24He's done. Hold the Lazarus. Anyway, with, with, with, I guess that would make, uh, that
00:26:29would make, uh, Elon Jesus, but go ahead.
00:26:30Yeah. Well, welcome back. I love your content. And, um, um, it's also one of the reasons why
00:26:37I got him to crypto. I work full-time in absolute crypto, not now most, mostly on the technology
00:26:41side, but encourage everyone to, um, watch Stefan's, uh, presentation, um, Bitcoin versus
00:26:48political power, the cryptocurrency revolution. That was a very inspirational, um, presentation
00:26:55for me. So that's, uh, that's my, uh, my crypto origin story. So thank you. I appreciate that
00:27:02to, to watch that. Um, and I, ever since then too, you know, in crypto gets really saturated
00:27:07with people who are, you know, um, um, like wind, moon and all this other stuff, but, um,
00:27:13I'm sorry, what wind moon, what do you mean? What does that mean?
00:27:16Oh, wind moon, like when, when is my meme token going to price appreciate? Uh, it's like,
00:27:21Oh, Oh, sorry. So when, when money and when the thing goes to the moon, okay, I'm sorry.
00:27:26I thought you said wind moon. I'm like earth, wind and fire are in crypto. Okay.
00:27:31Honestly, I often use urban dictionary sometimes when I see some of these acronyms, the crypto
00:27:35Remember it's been a while for me, but anyway, what's, uh, what's on your mind?
00:27:39Yeah, not much. I'm, I, I would just say, um, you know, people check that out because, uh,
00:27:44crypto market has grown a lot. And it'll be nice if we have people who still care about the,
00:27:50um, the values of Bitcoin. Cause, um, uh, I know Stefan, you said one, one, two, uh, some,
00:27:57some, something that I kind of agree with where you said, um, capitalism kind of like two things
00:28:02where it's like very simplified too. Cause people say people, uh, construe things with capitalism,
00:28:11which, which aren't really capitalistic, like the federal reserve bank and a lot of the systems
00:28:16that exist now. But, you know, I think he said that capitalism was two things where it was like
00:28:21private property and enforcement of contracts, or in other words, um, you know, just keep your
00:28:26promises and, you know, don't invade my home. Um, and I, I feel like that's kind of, I feel like
00:28:32if Bitcoin did not have those values where, Hey, not, not your keys, not your coins, or when it comes
00:28:38to programmable chains, that's where you kind of get to realize, you know, keep your promises,
00:28:42recap, trust, minimize contract enforcement and stuff. But, um, yeah, uh, uh, that's, uh, that's
00:28:50why I'm here in this, in this industry. And I think, um, it's, it's hard to explain the values
00:28:56of, of crypto sometimes. And, um, what else? Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's hard to explain
00:29:03those values. I feel like if Bitcoin didn't have those values at all, no one would find it valuable.
00:29:07Um, right. It needed, um, or even when it comes to, um, smart contract programmable chains, if,
00:29:16if you, you know, the value is to keep your promises in a trust minimized way, like, Hey,
00:29:23I don't, I don't need the government with a bunch of guns to, um, trigger this, trigger this, uh,
00:29:29value exchange, for example, when a certain event is met. Um, but, but I always found that
00:29:36incredible and I always encourage people to recognize the value of, um, of, um, crypto and
00:29:43in a way it's, it's, um, kind of like a capitalistic, I don't, I don't know that those two principles
00:29:51of cap, like the capitalism you mentioned a while ago was just private property enforcement of
00:29:56contracts. I feel like that's why kind of the whole blockchain industry exists and has a value
00:30:01to offer in the first place. Like the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin was just inflationary nonsense ran by
00:30:07one guy. Uh, people wouldn't find, find it as a store of values today.
00:30:13Yeah, no, I, I appreciate that. And, uh, for those of course, who want to get into Bitcoin,
00:30:17um, there's lots of great people who are talking about it, Michael Saylor, Andreas Antonopoulos,
00:30:22and lots of other great people. And of course I did a presentation. I updated, did original
00:30:26presentation on Bitcoin 2014 and I updated it last year. So I hope people would check that out.
00:30:30And thank you so much for dropping by. Congratulations on getting into a very cool
00:30:34industry. All right. Short and long. What's on your mind? I'm all ears.
00:30:41Oh, okay. Stefan. Wow. This is amazing. I can't believe I'm finally speaking to you.
00:30:48Believe it.
00:30:51I've been watching. I just want to say, I've been watching you ever since, um,
00:30:54you had a, you had a formal debate with this man, um, who made the Zeitgeist movies.
00:31:01Oh, Peter Joseph. Peter Joseph. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I've been watching you ever since then.
00:31:09That's cool. That's very cool. I appreciate that. So what's on your mind?
00:31:14Um, I, I, I just wonder if there's any, I mean, like, have you seen the, uh, what happened in Britain
00:31:22with children being, um, um, aborted at any time in the pregnancy, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Up to birth,
00:31:34right? Yeah. Yeah. Up to birth. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. So, um, I mean, what, what do you think
00:31:46that, what do you think that, uh, people should do from there? Cause obviously that's pure evil,
00:31:54right? Uh, yeah. I mean, it's a little bit uneasy when people say like, what should people do? I
00:32:01mean, it sounds like, um, almost sinister, if that makes sense. Uh, so I, yeah, I mean, it sounds
00:32:08almost sinister. Uh, I'm not saying that's you. I'm just saying that there is that sort of aspect to it.
00:32:13So as far as what people should do, I think just, just have a conversation, have a conversation,
00:32:18uh, about, about this as a whole. And, you know, if you, if you look at America since Roe v. Wade,
00:32:26which was largely a scam operation of the woman who was originally, um, the, the abortion, uh, test case
00:32:33turned against it was lied to and so on. So it was a bit of a scam, that whole thing, but, uh, it's 62
00:32:39million babies. You know, it's sick. Like six, this is like 10 plus Holocaust. This is a, this is more
00:32:48than a world war two and a half. That is, you know, that is, that is, uh, six world war ones. Now
00:32:56I get, it's not quite the same as taking an adult and blowing them up with shrapnel or mustard gas in
00:33:03their lung sacs, but that is a lot of not people. That is a lot of not people. Go ahead. Sorry.
00:33:09So like, isn't it though, right? When we're talking about killing a life inside, whether it's inside of
00:33:17a mother or not. No, no, I'm sorry. And I was unclear about that. So let me, let me revisit what
00:33:23I said. So what I mean is that it's not vivid for people. It's not exactly. It's a quiet little,
00:33:29it's a quiet little suction in a back room or whatever, whatever it is going to be. Right.
00:33:34And it's, it's a, it's a disposal and a recycling and, uh, and, and it's not like a guy getting blown
00:33:41up or gunned down or hanging off razor wire or something like that. It's, it's, it's a quiet,
00:33:47silent slaughter, so to speak. And it's not vivid and it's not dramatic. And, and it is something
00:33:55that, and again, I'm not trying to put all women into one giant lump of estrogenical sameness,
00:34:01but, or estrogen sameness. But what I will say is that, boy, oh boy, does that seem to
00:34:06be, I mean, it is recorded in America as women's number one concern, access to abortion. It is
00:34:13the biggest thing in the universe. Sorry, go ahead.
00:34:16And it's just kind of like, why, you know, like, why is that your number one concern?
00:34:21And you're, you're, if you're, I mean, I would put it as if, if you're not in any sort of danger
00:34:28from being, from being pregnant in the first place, and, you know, you, you are one of those
00:34:36women who gets a pregnant, who gets an abortion just because of the fact that it's inconvenient
00:34:41to your life. Like, why is that the main concern amongst most women? I mean, it's 40%,
00:34:49you know what I mean? Which is almost half, which is ghoulish.
00:34:54Sorry, 40% is referring to, is that the 40% to whom it is the number one 40% of women?
00:35:00Yes, exactly.
00:35:02Well, would you like the answer? I, and, and I, I would hesitate if I were in your shoes to say,
00:35:08well, it's an inconvenience, like a human life and a baby is more than an inconvenience if you want
00:35:14to raise the kid well. So I can tell you why I think that, oh yeah, it's more than an inconvenience.
00:35:22I mean, I've been a stay-at-home dad. I mean, it changes your whole life. I didn't write books
00:35:24for 10 years because I was busy raising my daughter, right? It's more than just like,
00:35:28oh man, I got a, oh, I, I left my, my phone at the dry cleaner, so I'll have to go back.
00:35:33That's an inconvenience.
00:35:33You know, it's a major responsibility.
00:35:35Yeah, massive. It's the biggest thing that can happen. Yeah, it's the biggest thing that can happen
00:35:39in your life. And it's more, more, more time consuming than any, any other single thing
00:35:43you'll do outside of work. Sorry, you were going to say, I guess I have a different perspective
00:35:47on it just because I would love to have a child. Me and my wife have had two miscarriages so far.
00:35:53Oh, I'm so sorry. And isn't it awful when you're desperate to try and have a child
00:35:57watching two things, people get abortions and people be terrible parents or people not even try
00:36:02to, to become parents. Yeah, no, it's horrible. It's horrible. Well, I can,
00:36:08I can break out the mystery if you like, and I can tell you why some women or a lot of women are
00:36:15so concerned about abortion. And I think, and there's a lot of reasons, but I'm, you know,
00:36:21I'm the philosophy guy, so I've got to try and boil it down to just a few. So one of the most
00:36:26important ones is lust. Now in the past, women would not provide sex until marriage. At least that
00:36:35was generally the ideal. And if you were found to be having sex before marriage, you would get
00:36:39a shotgun wedding and so on, like 30% of 19th century Wild West weddings. Like you can tell
00:36:45from the date of birth that, that the woman was already pregnant. So, so if abortion is off the
00:36:54table and by, I'm not talking about medical emergencies, life of the mother, I'm talking about,
00:36:59you know, the 97 or 95% of, of, or 90% of what women choose abortion for, which is, it's just,
00:37:06there's no incest, there's no rape, there's no medical necessity. It's a, just a choice. It's a
00:37:12choice. So if you take that off the table, then women have to focus their lust on men who will be
00:37:23good providers and husbands, and most importantly, fathers for their children. They don't get to
00:37:30straddle the tattooed motorcycle guy with the lopsided grin and the chiseled jaw and the steel
00:37:37blue eyes, right? Who's exciting for them, right? And I understand that. I mean, it's like the hot,
00:37:42crazy matrix works the other way, hot, stable matrix for, for guys as a whole. So they have to say,
00:37:48okay, look, there's lust. And then there's what's best for myself, my family, my children,
00:37:55and my future. And it's the same thing with guys. There's some hot to truck girl. Uh, you know,
00:38:01maybe she's kind of unstable and, you know, for a lot of guys, unstable women are great in bed
00:38:05because they kind of have to compensate for their personalities. And you have to say, whoa, whoa,
00:38:09hang on. I don't want to get dicknapped here. I'm going to have to really think with the,
00:38:13with the big head. So if you say to women, if you get pregnant, then what? Right? So the whole
00:38:24problem, of course, and the reason for why we have these big brains is because the children take
00:38:28forever to raise, right? I mean, I don't know if you've seen these videos, like a, a baby horse,
00:38:33a foal is born and can stagger and walk around within a couple of hours or a day or two at most.
00:38:38A human beings take over, yeah, a giraffe, human beings take over a year to learn how to walk.
00:38:43Our brains don't hit full maturity, females, early twenties, males, mid twenties. I've heard
00:38:49some arguments about that, but that's sort of the late, the last data that I saw that was really
00:38:52credible. That was a quarter century. It's insane how long, but you know, that which is more complex
00:38:57takes the longest to develop. So the human brain is the most complex thing. It takes the longest
00:39:01to develop. Now, if you say to women, you can't have an abortion, then they are really nervous
00:39:08about having sex. And, and that interferes with lust, right? It would be like, um, if, if there was
00:39:19a magic pill and you could eat anything you wanted, and if you gained weight, you took a pill and all
00:39:26if your excess weight was gone, would, that would have a huge, that would have a huge effect on your
00:39:32eating, wouldn't it? You'd eat whatever you want, because there was a magic pill that could take away
00:39:39all the negative effects of bad eating. And abortion is a magic procedure that takes all the negative
00:39:46effects away from irresponsible sex, which means you better start getting bloody responsible.
00:39:50And then, then the issue is, you know, one of the reasons why
00:39:56women offer up sex instead of virtues, because they say, oh, I want an alpha. Oh, I wanted this
00:40:05and that and the other. It's like, yeah, okay. So let's say that the alpha is a guy of, you know,
00:40:10high intelligence and ambition and, and success and motivation, all these kinds of things, right?
00:40:14Well, if you want to have more than just sex with an alpha male, you have to be an alpha female.
00:40:20Which means you have to be well-read, you have to be presentable, you have to be positive in his
00:40:25business associations, you have to be the kind of woman that other men are going to envy, because,
00:40:30you know, men work on status and their wives have a lot to do with that status. So if you want to
00:40:36have sex with an alpha male, in traditionally, you had to be an alpha female, right? You can't be
00:40:42really overweight, you can't have a lot of tattoos, you can't have face piercings, you can't have weird
00:40:46hair, you can't have, you know, even, even like, obviously fake boobs, I know the Jeff Bezos thing
00:40:51or whatever, right? But you have to be kind of classy, and you have to be well-read, you have to
00:40:56be able to hold a good conversation, you have to be able to run a great dinner party, and you have to
00:41:00be a really great homemaker, and, and all of that kind of stuff, right? So if you want, as a woman,
00:41:05to bed an alpha male, you have to be an alpha female, and it, the bedding, if it's going to
00:41:12occur, going to, going to bed together, is going to happen on the way to the altar. But women want,
00:41:18women want sex with the alpha males, but they don't want to bring alpha quality, so all they do is they
00:41:23bring sex to the table, and then they can, you know, a woman who's a, who's a six can get an eight,
00:41:28a woman who's a seven can get a ten, only on the basis of sex, not on the basis of any permanent
00:41:32arrangement, right? So last thing I'll say is that women are as subject, maybe not quite as much,
00:41:39but quite a bit subject to the same principles and disastrous and temptations of lust. And if you say
00:41:46to women, you can only have sex with men who'll be good fathers, well, they then have to be good
00:41:54mothers, because men who are good fathers are looking for women who are good mothers, and more
00:41:58than just a set of spread legs and a nod. They're looking for moral qualities, not just a place to
00:42:04dump their semen. And so, do women feel confident enough that they are bringing moral qualities to
00:42:11the table to the point where they can win over and keep a quality man, a quality father, a quality
00:42:18provider, and a quality husband? Well, if you take abortion away, women have to become, again, not all
00:42:25women, of course, right? But if you take abortion away, then women can't subsidize sexual activity
00:42:30with sex. They actually have to get commitment from a quality man. And that's really alarming
00:42:36for a lot of women, because sexuality is a kind of drug, and male attention is a kind of drug.
00:42:43And keeping the love of a virtuous person is a whole lot harder than gaining the sperm of an unstable
00:42:51man. So, I would say that has a lot to do with it, but I'm certainly happy to hear your thoughts as
00:42:56well. Well, yes, I was going to go into something else, but I had a different thought. How much of
00:43:07accountability do you think that the atheistic sphere has had in the collapse of the West,
00:43:17and in bringing us to this point where we are seeing this heinous abortion law, and these just
00:43:28absolutely just the amoral facet of regular, everyday people? Well, that has birthed this want and need for
00:43:46attention of men by women, and just the 18 million men who have an OnlyFans subscription,
00:43:58and the 10% of 18 to 24-year-olds who have an OnlyFans account, women who have an OnlyFans account.
00:44:06Yeah. Well, it's not small in that, of course, for...
00:44:09I would say 90%.
00:44:10Sorry, what's 90%?
00:44:14The contribution of the atheistic sphere to what we have going on now.
00:44:20Right. Now, it's not small, of course, because as you probably know even better than I do,
00:44:26Christianity says that life begins at conception, and the soul is in the body, and murdering the
00:44:30fetus is killing a human being, right? So, that's the answer. Now, the church, though,
00:44:36and I'm going to use just this big nomenclature church, although I recognize that there's a lot
00:44:40of denominations, but I'm just going to say the church in the West as a whole, so Christianity
00:44:43as a whole, the church faced a massive challenge, of course, starting in the 16th, 17th century. I'm
00:44:49not really talking about the Reformation or the Protestant fragmentation of Christendom. I'm talking
00:44:55about science. So, the church had been in control of human progress for...
00:45:05I mean, 1,500 years. I mean, I'm just going to give a nice millennia and a half, although,
00:45:10of course, it's arguable on the fringes, right? And the church... I'm just talking about the West,
00:45:17so just bear with me, right? So, the church faced the fact that science was contributing far more
00:45:25to the alleviation of human suffering and the progress of the human spirit than the church
00:45:30had maintained. And I know it's unfair to say, well, just the Dark Ages, and I get there with the
00:45:34Saracen harassings, and two million Europeans were taken into slavery by Muslims and all kinds of
00:45:39terrible stuff. And there was the collapse of the Roman Empire. And then, of course, in the early
00:45:45Middle Ages, you got hit with successive waves of the Black Death. Thanks, China. It's long like
00:45:50that's the last time that's going to happen.
00:45:51Which, of course, people, you know, conveniently forget about the Saracen.
00:45:56Oh, yes. And the fact, not even many people know that Saracen is the same as Muslim. Anyway.
00:46:00So, the church faced a real competitor in two things. Number one, science. Number two,
00:46:10the free market. And science and the free market did not come out of the church. I'm not saying
00:46:17that the church was... Tom Wood schooled me on this some years back about how pro-science a lot
00:46:22of church elders were, but it did not fundamentally come out of the church science, and it did not...
00:46:30Neither did the free market. And science and the free market have been the two. And the free market,
00:46:34by far the most, have been the greatest beneficiaries. I'm sure you've seen these graphs of, like,
00:46:38human income and wealth from, like, the dawn of history until, like, you know, 200 years ago. It's
00:46:44just flatlined and then goes through the roof. So, the problem is that science, materialism,
00:46:52empiricism, and the free market combined to produce the greatest forward thrusting of human progress
00:46:59the planet has ever seen. And it's not even close. It wasn't even, like, we are tens of thousands of
00:47:05times wealthier than the people were when the church was in control. Right.
00:47:10So, that is a big challenge. The way that I, of course, have tried to bridge that challenge is
00:47:16to say, well, given that the progress of science and the free market, and, of course, 20th century
00:47:24medicine, given the benefits that that has all produced, which does not come out of the Bible,
00:47:28does not come out of Christianity directly, those benefits have delegitimized Christian virtues,
00:47:37Christian ethics. And by that, I don't mean that Christian ethics are delegitimized.
00:47:43But if you say, if you're a doctor, right, and you say, I've got the cures for what ails you,
00:47:48and you don't really cure that many people, or many people stay sick, and then some other doctor
00:47:52hangs up shop, hangs up his shingle across from you, and he's healing, you know, 10 or 100 or 1,000
00:47:58times more people than you, your business is challenged. And I'm sorry to put it in such crass terms,
00:48:03but I just want to look at the general mechanics about these things. So, when the church faced the
00:48:08overtaking and elevation of the human condition through science, the free market, and 20th century
00:48:13medicine, people were no longer, in particular, believing in the virtues and values of the church.
00:48:20Now, atheists then ditched morality to a large degree, along with theology, and that is the demonic
00:48:26aspect of modern atheism, which I know personally, because, of course, I came up with a rational proof of
00:48:31secular ethics, and I'm not a complete unknown. I was the biggest intellectual in the world, by some
00:48:37measures, for quite some time, and had good inroads within the atheist community, and debated, and I
00:48:44debated atheists. UPP was debated. I debated atheists regarding UPP, my approach to ethics, and they hated it.
00:48:53They hated it more than Christians, which is an amazing thing to me. A rational proof of ethics
00:48:57was questioned and accepted, and Christians were interested in a curious and non-hostile
00:49:05fashion, but atheists just hated it, and it's like, okay, that's kind of demonic, bro.
00:49:09Yeah, I think I remember that.
00:49:10So, I think it has a lot to do, yeah, I think it has a lot to do with, and certainly atheism has a lot
00:49:16to do with it, but the church, and I'm not sure exactly how, but the church needed to find a way
00:49:23to bring ethics into the realm of science, reason, and evidence, and the church was unable to do that,
00:49:29or unwilling to do that, perhaps due to the limitations of needing faith, but philosophy has
00:49:34to be the way forward. Materialism, right, the body without a soul has not worked. The soul without a body
00:49:40has not worked in focusing on the afterlife, and faith, and theology alone. It is my hope,
00:49:47of course, that philosophy can do the job that religion and amoral atheism has failed at. It is,
00:49:59of course, my goal to hope to step into the breach and heal this wound through which civilization is
00:50:04currently bleeding out, if that makes sense.
00:50:07Um, I think that, um, that religion, well, okay, so, let's see here. Um, I think, I think I heard
00:50:17you say it once, uh, long ago, years ago, 2015, something like that, um, that, you know, um,
00:50:26what atheism did was, um, like, pick out the philosophy of the church, but it left a, um,
00:50:38but it left a, um, uh, it left a vacuum because it left nothing there.
00:50:43Well, it left a moral void.
00:50:45Yeah, exactly. Which, or a moral vacuum, exactly.
00:50:48So, religion is focused on the ought, and science is focused on the is, and, of course,
00:50:53as Hume has famously argued, you can't get an ought from an is, which you can't get morals
00:50:57from atoms. And so, uh, atheism just gave up on that, and Hume did a huge disservice, and I've,
00:51:03I've obviously believed that I have solved the Humean is-ought dichotomy, which we don't have
00:51:06to get into right now. But when Hume became very popular as a Scottish philosopher, when Hume became
00:51:11very popular, so you can't get an ought from an is, well, as society moved more from the ought of
00:51:16religion to the is of science, the study of matter and energy and the relationships there,
00:51:20thereon. Well, the ought, the morals, the vision, the purpose, all got lost, and people carved apart
00:51:28the universe looking for virtues, could find none, and then became amoral. And, of course,
00:51:35it is my goal as a philosopher, again, to sort of heal that. Sorry, is there anything else? We've
00:51:39got a whole whack of people. Is there anything else that you want to mention? Great questions,
00:51:41by the way. I really do appreciate you calling in.
00:51:43No, of course. I, uh, just wanted to, um, finish this up by saying that, um, I've always wanted to
00:51:52speak to you, um, especially when you were on YouTube, and we were going through the whole,
00:51:58um, migrant crisis thing. Um, I remember, I think you did a speech by, um, Winston Churchill,
00:52:05and, um, yeah. Yeah, I think you remember the video that I'm talking about. Um, I do, I do, I do.
00:52:13It was, it was, it was impressive. Um, and, uh, I just, I just remember that being, uh, that whole
00:52:21point being, like, a pivotal, such a pivotal part in, um, society because of the fact that,
00:52:29I mean, like, and that, that's when you actually got taken off of YouTube, you and Lauren Southern,
00:52:35I think, uh, as, uh, as well as a few other people. There was a lot, yeah, there was a lot
00:52:39going on. Yeah, exactly. You and Red Ice Radio. Well, I mean, for, for the banning too, because
00:52:47I was focusing on the human origins of COVID, that was a big deal. Because the reason why the
00:52:53lockdowns happened was because COVID was perceived to be of natural origin. If something of natural
00:52:58origin has only got a toehold in the infection of human beings, you can slow the spread. If something
00:53:03is engineered from the ground up to infect human beings, then there is no, absolutely zero point
00:53:09to lockdowns, that there's no point to it whatsoever. So, all right, well, listen, thanks
00:53:13very much. You're welcome to call back anytime. I really do appreciate the questions and I hope
00:53:17I did some, some justice in the short time that we had. Zach attack. Unmute my friend and
00:53:24I'm all ears. Like a dumbo. Oh, thanks for having me back on. Um, oh, look, sorry. Did
00:53:32we already talk or were you? We did, we did, but I, I sort of just was just rifting on what
00:53:37you were sort of talking about in terms of, um, the, the subject you were talking about,
00:53:41but could we talk about something else? Sure. Um, but keep it brief because we've got a bunch
00:53:46of people. So I apologize. I, you look familiar, but I have the memory span of your average goldfish.
00:53:51Sorry. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. So, uh, I'm long, really long-term listener. So no mercy, all
00:53:57good. Um, uh, I got my doctor's results back last week cause we're trying to have children
00:54:03and we did all the tests, blood tests and everything like that. Um, uh, it came back that my testosterone
00:54:10levels was half of what the minimum was needed to be. And it's just a gut punch, gut punched.
00:54:18Sorry. The minimum of what, uh, you mean for a sperm production or something or the healthy
00:54:22range of tests and the, your wife's FSH is good and there's no issues there. No issues
00:54:27there. No. Okay. Um, all right. So you are low on, on the T. Yes. Yes. Okay. And, and
00:54:33I'm not, I'm not, I'm not just more from a, your experience of what kind of effect that
00:54:39could have on me. Like we were talking about, um, you know, asserting my expertise with,
00:54:44with clients, you know, could, could, could some of these things, uh, uh, how, how could
00:54:50they present themselves in my day to day or, or is it just, uh, obviously I'm looking at
00:54:57how to, how to correct the low and T. Um, I just want, want to do, I would look, I, I,
00:55:03I can, I can only talk about, I mean, that somebody doesn't really matter. Let's just call
00:55:07them Bob and yeah, Bob had some anxiety. This is a guy I know. Bob had some anxiety. I think
00:55:12he went to go and get, I think it was DHEA or, or something like that, which I think
00:55:16is some sort of testosterone supplement. And he said that his anxiety, uh, lessened and
00:55:21so on. And I, of course, have always been aware that I really need to check my T levels
00:55:27and do what I can to, to keep it up because it's really tough as a man to be assertive in
00:55:32the, in the absolute, uh, or the low part of, of testosterone. And again, this is none of
00:55:39this is any kind of medical or, or nutritional advice. This is all, I'm just, you know, I
00:55:43want to make sure that people don't think that I'm overstepping any expertise that I
00:55:47don't have. But, uh, yeah, I think it's worth, uh, getting checked. Uh, obviously you've got
00:55:52checked and, uh, you know, as far as things that you can do, uh, obviously talk to a, a
00:55:56doctor or a nutritionist and get into the kind of things that will help. And I think you'll
00:56:01be quite surprised.
00:56:02A referral for that for specialists and that sort of thing. Uh, cause he said, he thought
00:56:06the doctor sort of said that at like 31, it's quite low to have such low T. Um, and
00:56:12I just wondered if it could be also environmental. Like I didn't grow up with a father. I was raised
00:56:16by my grandmother and a single mother.
00:56:19Um, and it's funny because I have, I have a memory of, and maybe with AI people can do
00:56:25this. Now I have a memory of reading that being raised by a single mother lowers
00:56:28testosterone. And then I looked for it again some years later and I couldn't find any
00:56:32good confirmation. So we'll leave that. But I, I, and I, I certainly think it doesn't
00:56:36help. I certainly think it does not help at all. So, um, yeah, I, I think you'll be
00:56:40quite surprised at what you think of as your personality, uh, and, and how much it is
00:56:45dependent on things like, uh, hormones and testosterone levels and all of that. So, um,
00:56:49I hope that, uh, you, I wish you the very best and, and you know, drop, drop me a line
00:56:52if you can host at freedom main.com and let me know how, how it's going forward and what
00:56:56worked for you.
00:56:58Man, my wife and I would really love to do a call in show, uh, with you. Um,
00:57:02and yeah, yeah. Um, yeah.
00:57:05Oh, fantastic. Wait till your tea is up and then you can scream at me. All right. Now
00:57:09I appreciate that.
00:57:10Thanks man. I appreciate that. And Christopher, we got people cycling in and out of here
00:57:16like the Assyria up and down on the Assyrian and boy. All right. Uh, Christopher, if you
00:57:21want to unmute, what is on your mind, my friend?
00:57:24Hey, wow. This is surreal. It is a great honor to talk to you. Uh, finally, I tried 10 years
00:57:31ago, uh, through your program. However, something got mixed up. I wasn't very good at articulating
00:57:36my problems. I'm your case example. I, I stumbled onto you cause, uh, I was in a relationship
00:57:43with my wife that ex-wife, uh, that was the abusive thing, narcissist, typical profile.
00:57:50And I was like, uh, but she had me convinced I was the problem. So I started listening to
00:57:56you with all your remarks about, you know, the, and it stems back, it, it folds out.
00:58:01Like I can follow my whole family lineage, uh, to where like abuses, like the cycle and whatnot.
00:58:07Um, so that was really insightful. And then it also got me, uh, seeing that I'm not the problem.
00:58:13I was programmed to be, accept the problem. Uh, I also liked the fact that you were like,
00:58:20it's okay to get rid of toxic people. Even if it's your parents, I use that. Uh, I still
00:58:26talk to my mother. However, you know, it's tentative, but like the, the things you say
00:58:31were like, they, it woke me up and I really wanted to thank you on that.
00:58:36Yeah. And I appreciate that. And just sort of very, very briefly. I mean, it's, it's wild
00:58:40to me that people think that the moral law somehow carves around parents and when the moral
00:58:47law should most apply to parents because they have the greatest power in your life when you
00:58:51were helpless and dependent. So, uh, when people say, well, but, but, but, but the moral law
00:58:56bends around parents, respect their mother and their father, no matter what. And it's like,
00:58:58but that's not how the law works. I mean, if a father, let's say that a father is the getaway
00:59:05driver for his 17 year old son, who's violently robbing a bank. Do we say, well, we got to throw
00:59:11the 17 or 16 year old kid in jail, but the father should get off scot-free? Heck, we might
00:59:15even give him a, a, a, a key to the city. We might give him a, a new Cadillac, right? Because
00:59:20he's the father. And it's like, no, we would actually be really even more upset at the father
00:59:24for drawing his still underage son into a life of crime. I mean, the, the law does not step
00:59:29around parents. In fact, the law holds parents to higher accountability. I don't go to jail
00:59:35if my neighbor doesn't feed his kid, but if the neighbor doesn't feed his kid, the neighbor
00:59:40goes to jail or at least receives some kind of visit or some kind of sanction. So there
00:59:44is a higher moral law for parents and the law and in society as a whole. And then when you
00:59:51talk about, well, if they're abusive, you don't have to spend time with them. If they
00:59:54won't change, if they won't grow, if they won't heal, if they won't respect your voice
00:59:59or your arguments, uh, and then just people lose their minds. And yet, and yet the law, you
01:00:05know, it's like the old thing, well, they separate families and migrants, uh, illegal
01:00:10aliens to separate families. And this Tom Hoonan has pointed out, it's like, but that's
01:00:14all of the law. You know, some guy gets arrested for drunk driving, uh, he goes to jail and
01:00:19the family is separated. So yeah, well, it's also an invisible shadow. It's a, it's a shadow
01:00:25on your life because what it did is it, um, it messed with my programming. So the reason
01:00:30I ended up with my ex is because I saw her as normal because both my parents were abusive,
01:00:35uh, physically and emotionally and the whole nine, but we're instilling righteous values
01:00:42into me, love, family, uh, life is thicker than, or blood's thicker than water, uh, church,
01:00:49religion, all this stuff. And I'm an audio visual learner. So like reading, it's not my
01:00:55perte. Uh, but when I started listening to audio books and podcasts, in fact, that's how I
01:00:59stumble on you is I was a truck driver. Um, and so I, I was, I've, I've listened to a
01:01:04lot of your content, lots and lots of hours, probably unhealthy amounts of hours or healthy
01:01:10unthinkable. There is only health and the more, the better anyway. Sorry, go ahead.
01:01:16No, it's just that, you know, it is what it is. But, uh, so I went into the relationship
01:01:22and then this happened, whatever. Uh, then I ended up with my abusive father and now, uh,
01:01:29he's dead. And then I'm in new situations. It's, it's like a glorious little stew of nicety,
01:01:34but I'm working through it. I'm looking at all this, uh, garbage as a new way to, uh,
01:01:40come up with this new concept of this grassroots program, I call roots. And I'm working on that
01:01:45diligently. Of course, I'm way backwards in time because, you know, I was a truck driver 12 years
01:01:51and I was a computer technician at one time. And so I knew all this stuff like the back of my hand,
01:01:55but now I'm having to pick it up and it's a little bit more difficult than riding a bicycle
01:02:00because you're like, Oh God, what is all these? Like, I'm still, I'm learning this. Well,
01:02:04what was Twitter now X and it's like, well, how's it, how to navigate and all that stuff. So
01:02:09I'm learning.
01:02:12And, um, appreciate that update. What happened with your parents? You said physically and verbally,
01:02:19what, what did they do when you were a kid? Uh, I, so I was the oldest of four younger brothers
01:02:26and, um, I was basically, so I suffered from what you call Peter Pan syndrome. I was a parent
01:02:33before I ever was a child. And then when I was, hang on, hang on. What does that, what does that
01:02:38mean? What does that mean? You mean you took care of your brothers or you had a, yeah, yeah,
01:02:42yeah. So they would be gone. They'd be gone doing odd jobs and what we lived off welfare,
01:02:46all this stuff. So they'd be doing odd jobs and whatever. Of course, when I got to age,
01:02:50then I'd help out. So I learned scrap meddling. I was doing jobs. I was working since I was like
01:02:55seven, eight years old, like doing stuff. I mean, I'm from the time, you know, back when toys were
01:02:59made out of metal. So long dots taking out the week. Yeah. Like, you know, our fun times were,
01:03:06you know, throwing rocks at each other and their grenades or whatever, but, um, yeah. So good times,
01:03:12uh, your, you know, your playgrounds were made out of steel and the hot sun. Great times.
01:03:16Um, but yeah, so yeah, there, there, uh, then, you know, I went to that, but there was, you know,
01:03:22I mean, excessive spanking, uh, the verbal thing was more of, um, a complacency thing. It wasn't
01:03:32necessarily like a, um, oh, you're no good. You're no, it was more like I got eyes behind my head,
01:03:39uh, like this italitarian type. Yeah. I don't know. We had some kind of hiccup. So sorry,
01:03:47you were just saying that, uh, uh, you were a, um, a parent before you were even an adult and we
01:03:52were talking about your early work and so on. Yeah. Yeah. So, so basically I've been working
01:03:57since I was eight. I got strong work ethic. I've always had that and whatnot, but I had a, um,
01:04:02a frailty because I didn't recognize evil people because I was raised by evil people. So
01:04:09I ended up with an evil person that was trying to tell me I was the problem. But, you know,
01:04:14like I said, thanks to your help, I actually was able to, uh, you know, walk the minefield
01:04:21and it wasn't easy. It was not that easy at all. Right. Well, and, and what's your love life
01:04:26like at the moment? Oh, it's absolutely horrible. Um, I am, uh, currently dealing with the great
01:04:33thing of, uh, property tax issues because my dad didn't pay taxes for the past three years. I own
01:04:38the house. Wait, wait, love life, love life. What's your property taxes got to do with your love
01:04:42life? Oh, my love life. Uh, sorry. I have no, uh, I got divorced five years ago. Right. Uh,
01:04:48and how's your love life at the moment? None, non-existent. I'm, uh, my love. Why,
01:04:54why, why non-existent? Uh, because I'm more into, uh, purpose rather than, uh, relationship. Okay.
01:05:02I'm trying to build. Do you want to have, uh, do you want to have kids? I already have a child.
01:05:07Uh, my more. Uh, no, I'm too old for that. Okay. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm going to be 49 this year. So
01:05:17that, uh, I, that wouldn't be fair to the kid. I, I could not do that to someone,
01:05:22you know? Okay. Got it. So that, that, that's out of the deck, but yeah, no, I'm, I'm not looking
01:05:29for that. Right. Okay. Okay. Well, listen, I appreciate the update. I'm really sorry about
01:05:36what happened to you as a kid, but I'm really thrilled that you have, uh, that you have come
01:05:40out of it. My pleasure, man. Uh, all the best. Thanks, man. All right. Bye. James N1. That
01:05:46is a formal LinkedIn with a tie and everything profile, man. Uh, I feel I should, uh, explain
01:05:52to you what my five-year plans are and why I left my last job. James, you're up. Oh,
01:05:57I'm up. No way. Hey, it's, um, I can't believe I got up. Uh, Hey, it's a pleasure. Um, I wanted
01:06:03to ask, I know you're into the philosophy stuff, but are you still in Canada and given Canada
01:06:09the day as tomorrow, your thoughts on like where the country's heading? I'm quite black
01:06:15killed as of late with the government of the country. Um, but yeah, just nice to have you
01:06:22back. So I wanted to ask that question. Yeah. I mean, I, I hear what you're saying. I, I'm
01:06:27a free will guy, so I try not to make predictions about absolutes. Uh, certainly the trends are
01:06:32not great for sure, uh, to put it mildly, but you never know when someone's going to
01:06:38make a great speech. Someone's going to wake people up. You never know when there's going
01:06:43to be a sort of collective awakening. I mean, who would have guessed that the trucker, uh,
01:06:48protests, the trucker convoy protests over COVID really just about the most effective protests
01:06:53that have ever been staged outside of perhaps the American revolution. And yeah, I mean, so who,
01:06:59who would have guessed? I wouldn't have guessed that in particular that that was, was going to
01:07:03occur. So yeah, I mean, I try not to, uh, yeah, I'll, I'll tell, I'll tell you my basic.
01:07:11Sorry. When, when, when, when those protests happen, it like rekindled my like desire to stay
01:07:17here prior to, I was, I was ready to go. Well, and going ain't easy, man, leaving home ain't easy.
01:07:24So I'll tell you my basic philosophy of this. Love to hear your thoughts on it. And I'll keep
01:07:28mine brief because it's supposed to be a combo, right? So my basic philosophy goes something
01:07:31like this. I try not to look down the road too much. I try not to figure out general trends
01:07:39too much. What I try to do is do as much good as I can every day because that's the maximum
01:07:45I can do. I don't know that staring down five years, 10 years, what's it going to be like
01:07:49other than, you know, general prep for life as a whole. I don't know that that's going to
01:07:54add or add to the good that I can do every day. So I, I talk to people online. I talk
01:08:00to people in person. I exchange ideas and arguments. I have a loving family. I parent,
01:08:05I think fairly well. And so this is the good that I can do in the time that I have. Now,
01:08:12if I, if I do the maximum good, I mean, however you would measure that, I think it's, you know,
01:08:18you got to pace yourself, right? So if I do the maximum good that I can with the time that
01:08:22I have, everything else is outside of my control. So I try not to sort of look at long-term trends
01:08:27and where's this going to go and what's going to happen. First of all, that nobody knows.
01:08:31And secondly, it can produce a kind of dread or, you know, the doom scrolling, they call
01:08:37it sort of paralyzing anxiety or what's going to happen with this or what's going to happen
01:08:40with that. And then, and then if you have a negative experience from looking ahead and
01:08:46thinking it all just goes downhill, then that reduces the amount of good that you can do in
01:08:51the day. So I ration negative news for sure. And I ration my inevitable desire, which we all have
01:08:58to try and predict where the world is in five years or 10 years. I mean, nobody would have
01:09:06predicted AI. AI is going to transform so much in the world. And so I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't
01:09:13have guessed, of course, a couple of years ago that Elon Musk was going to buy Twitter and restore my
01:09:17account. I, I don't know. I didn't know these things. So I just aim to sort of keep my head
01:09:23down, do the maximum good I can on a day-to-day basis. And outside of that, I suppose you could
01:09:28say it's in God's, the collective's or the universe's hands, if that makes sense.
01:09:32No, I mean, yeah, it makes total sense. Like you can only really change in your locale or
01:09:37implement, you know, goodwill in your immediate, like family, you know, colleagues, associates,
01:09:43et cetera. Like the idea that we can just change worlds, like naive. Um, no, it makes
01:09:48sense. I was the only thing again, black belt, but the one thing that little shining light
01:09:53is I was very pleased to see a lot of young men finally get engaged in the political arena
01:09:58and young men are just young people being majority conservative between the three parties, the
01:10:04two left wing parties, and then the cons. So I do have some hope, but, uh, man, we got
01:10:09to get these boomers off CVC. I don't know what to do, but, uh, it's great. It's great
01:10:15to have you.
01:10:16Well, thanks, man. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. And certainly, uh, the young people are,
01:10:20especially the young men are giving, giving us, I think all, a lot of hope. All right.
01:10:26Yeah. So does this mean you're back or not?
01:10:29Are you back actually posting in that?
01:10:32Yeah, I won't, I won't be long. Are you back? Are you doing stuff again or what?
01:10:36I'm not sure what your question is. I mean, we're talking on X and you're asking me if
01:10:43I'm back on X. What, what, what does this mean? Help, help, help, help me riddle this.
01:10:47I just haven't seen you. And, uh, you know, I've always loved your content in the past.
01:10:51Well, I was banned.
01:10:53Well, welcome back.
01:10:54And then, then, then there was a while, there was a while where I was mulling over coming
01:10:57back and my daughter made a good case. So I'm back. But yes, uh, if, if we're, if I'm
01:11:02back on Twitter, uh, and I'm posting and hosting live spaces, it's fairly safe to assume that
01:11:07I'm back. I'm with you on that.
01:11:09No, I, all I want to say is like, I really enjoyed your content in the past and, uh, welcome
01:11:12back. And, uh, yeah, man. And thanks for all the, the good thoughts.
01:11:19Well, I appreciate that. And, uh, thank you for coming back and thank you for, uh, holding
01:11:23your breath the whole time that I was gone. I am sure it must be quite a relief.
01:11:26Um, yeah, um, I'm interested in, uh, reading the, uh, uh, the online version of our future
01:11:33book. I wasn't sure if you just want to kind of talk about that or I'm sorry, you, uh, you
01:11:40were garbling quite a bit there. You said that you were interested in my novel, the future
01:11:45for sure. Yeah. Like I've listened to, um, uh, pretty much all of your audio books. I
01:11:51have, uh, read, um, recently read, I, uh, read your physical version of, uh, almost,
01:11:59uh, and many other ones, but I was just wondering if you wanted to talk about, um, the future
01:12:04because it seems like you like that book or, but it might help me. So what's that?
01:12:10I do like that. I do like that book. So, yeah. So we're just, for those of you who don't
01:12:14know, uh, I write, uh, a bunch of nonfiction books and I've written a bunch of fiction
01:12:18books. There is just poor, there is revolutions, there is the God of Atheists, there is almost,
01:12:25and then there are two novels that I wrote over the last couple of years in exile, so
01:12:29to speak, which was a novel called the future, which is a science fiction book set 500 years
01:12:34in the future about a truly free society. And also a book called the present, which is
01:12:40as society begins to collapse, how people handle it and what they do both morally and
01:12:45philosophically. So all of those books are available for free at freedomain.com
01:12:49slash books, and I hope you will check them out. My favorites in many ways is almost, but
01:12:53I do like the future as well. So yeah, I'm, I'm all ears. What, what do you want to talk
01:12:57about with that?
01:12:59Oh, absolutely. That book almost, holy crap. That was a great book for me. Um, it was hard
01:13:03for me to read. I'll admit that, but it was, it certainly was nothing like, um, uh, I was
01:13:09reading, I was attempting to read Atlas Shrugged. I made it to around like whatever, around
01:13:13page 280. And it was just, you know, I, it just, anyway, so yeah, back to your books.
01:13:18Um, you know, I, I, I ran didn't have any kids, so, you know, it's like, I don't really
01:13:22want to dive too deeply into her at this moment. So, um, but anyway, so yeah, so no, with
01:13:27the, with the, uh, with, uh, the book almost, it was, um, your, your metaphor, your sort of
01:13:34metaphor prowess or what have you, the, uh, the way you spoke of, especially the fact
01:13:39that you were able to, uh, make points that weren't in favor of like, just, you
01:13:45know, like obeying, you know, like rank hypocrites in the military, et cetera. Like
01:13:49there, there's some, there's some quotes that kind of stick out to me that really
01:13:52helped me to wrangle, you know, certain like emotional, emotional wounds from the
01:13:56past, if you will. So it's just, it's, it's very helpful that, that part, those parts
01:14:00of the, I mean, at least that part of the book was, uh, was particularly, uh, memorably
01:14:04helpful in many ways. So I always aim to, to have these electric brushes up with
01:14:09other souls of like intimate thoughts. Like the, the deeper I go within myself, the
01:14:13closer I think I connect with others through, through this kind of work. So, uh,
01:14:17okay. So I appreciate that. And, uh, obviously if you prefer it to Atlas Shrugged,
01:14:21well, for me, there's almost no higher praise than I really do appreciate that.
01:14:24And, uh, and so, yeah, and what, uh, what was your thoughts on the book, the
01:14:28future?
01:14:30Oh, the book, the future, um, the, my thoughts on that.
01:14:34We're, um, there's a lot, a lot to fight. I mean, a lot to fight, uh, to, to, to like
01:14:41in the, well, at least, uh, formally for me, there was a lot more to fight, um, for
01:14:46that to be, uh, excuse me for the background noise, but for the, for that to have
01:14:51been, uh, you know, I mean, for instance, that book has really helped me in ways I
01:14:55haven't currently defined, but it's just, um, or maybe I don't even need to, but I
01:15:01think, um, yeah, like just, uh, I mean, for, I mean, it kind of, it kind of, a part
01:15:05of me was like, you know, if, you know, if someone on the internet who I, you know, I
01:15:09never met in person, whatever it can, if they can do all this good for me, what, what, you
01:15:13know, can I do good for others?
01:15:14At least to some extent to some people.
01:15:16So, um, if, if, if they're out there, so, you know, kind of, I just, I, it's sort of,
01:15:21it's a kind of, it's a surprise, especially the, the imagery, the imagery you have for the
01:15:26book is actually superb.
01:15:27It really kind of, it's like, if someone is like, you know, it's, it's to me, at least,
01:15:31you know, my thoughts are if someone's plotting to be like, or, you know, be some kind of like
01:15:36demonic force in some kind of sense, just looking at the cover of that book is sort of like,
01:15:41whoa, like, holy crap, I'm, you know, it's kind of like, it's a way to sort of ward away
01:15:44the vampires.
01:15:45I really wish it was easy to get a physical version of that book.
01:15:48I've even tried to get, you know, like physical versions of my own books at this point.
01:15:51It's, it's, it's hard to, uh, to do, but yeah, but no, I, but, but in terms of, uh, the future,
01:15:57there's a lot of, there's, there's a lot of things, uh, there's a lot of, there's a lot
01:16:01of ways that book will help.
01:16:02And I'm just glad, I'm so glad you're back on X can, you know, again, I've said this a lot
01:16:06of times, I just want to congratulate you for whatever you did to get the, however you
01:16:10get back on X, whatever you talked about.
01:16:13I don't want to bring up rants and stuff, but yeah, no, the book, the future was, was,
01:16:17uh, was, was very great.
01:16:18It's, it was very, for me, um, at the time, you know, like, especially when so many people
01:16:23were like getting high or doing degenerate things or like, you know, planning to, you
01:16:28know, do math or whatever else, like, you know, like those, those kinds of people, like
01:16:32junkies and all that stuff.
01:16:33It's like, well, you can sort of, you know, try to fit in or, or you can just listen to a
01:16:38book that's like, well, maybe something better will come forth about when after, you know,
01:16:43all the aftermath of whatever, uh, from this point.
01:16:46So, you know, it kind of helped me think about, and I started, you know, thinking about, you
01:16:50know, just like, well, what's the point of, what's the point of just collecting, you know,
01:16:54collecting, you know, government money or wherever else, when, when all these problems are happening
01:16:58and I'm somewhat contributing to the problem.
01:17:00And so I started to look inwardly, started to think more about objectively what I can
01:17:05do in my own life instead of the past and all the history and trying to like correct
01:17:09this and that and whatever else.
01:17:11So it really helped me focus on, you know, like, yeah, my, the fact that I have my own
01:17:15descendant and the fact that I have to, uh, that I have, if I want to be a man of principle,
01:17:19I got to like, you know, it's not about theory and, you know, it's more about practice.
01:17:23So that's, that's sort of the stuff that I, it, it, it, it helped me, it helped me adjust
01:17:28the, uh, the, the, the, the way that I fight the excuses because before I used to fight the
01:17:34excuses by, uh, just, um, you know, like whatever, I'll just go for a walk or do something random
01:17:40or work out a lot and, or go for a run or something.
01:17:43Of course I still work out.
01:17:44I still, I still, I still, I still lift heavy, well, I lift heavy weights more than I, more
01:17:48than I do most of any other physical exercise.
01:17:51But, um, so yeah, so it's, it's just, I don't like, yeah, so, so the, the book, the
01:17:56future is, is, uh, it's just, uh, there's a, there's a, there's a lot of different ways.
01:18:02Um, I mean, I think, I think anyone, I just, I'll just say this, the last thing I'll leave
01:18:06you with, cause I don't want to like, you know, I don't, I don't know where everyone else
01:18:09is, but, uh, in this conversation, but, uh, so, um, the last thing I just want to say is
01:18:14that if you haven't at least listened to the book, the future, listen to it.
01:18:18And everyone who, who claims to, you know, love, respect, admire the, you know, the possibility
01:18:23of the future in terms, you know, like, uh, childhood, anti-childism, at least like, you
01:18:29know, that they, they actually, they're not just putting on a front, they'll actually listen
01:18:33to the book.
01:18:33And if they disagree with content and the book, they will vocalize, they will write about
01:18:38it, they will rebut it, they will review it.
01:18:40That's fine.
01:18:40And we can have a conversation in the present.
01:18:43That's kind of the point of, I think anyway, I don't want to speak for Stefan, but I think
01:18:47that's kind of the point of, uh, chats like this is so that we don't have to just, you
01:18:51know, like all pretend each other is, you know, obsolete or something.
01:18:56So, um, yeah, so I'll just, I'll just leave it at that for now, but, uh, I just, uh, you
01:19:01know, I sort of would like to just hear what your thoughts are on that.
01:19:06I appreciate that.
01:19:08And look, it's, it's completely wonderful to me as a writer that the work that I've
01:19:14done has had practical impact in your life.
01:19:17Like I think of a lot of the novels that I've read and they're entertaining and they're engaging
01:19:20and they give me insights and have cool characters, great dialogue.
01:19:24And, and this is not to diss any other writers, but one of the reasons that I wrote books was
01:19:28I was really frustrated at the lack of practicality in people's novels.
01:19:36How can you actually use this information to become a better person?
01:19:40And I don't just mean like more in touch with people and, and, and more open and intimate.
01:19:45I mean, like moral, like you can become a moral, a morally better person.
01:19:49And so we are naturally drawn to grand stories, right?
01:19:54If you think of superhero movies, uh, and I'm always a sucker for a Superman movie, God help
01:19:58me, but we're always drawn to these very large narratives, but those large narratives tend
01:20:02to dwarf us.
01:20:06Uh, you can hear me or you cannot hear me.
01:20:09So my goal as a writer was to give people practical applications and drawing people in
01:20:16with grand themes is really important, right?
01:20:18So, of course, in my novel, Revolutions, there's the lead up to the Russian revolution in my
01:20:25novel, Just Poor, there's the agricultural revolution, big, grand movements of capital
01:20:32and labor and people.
01:20:32And, of course, in my novel, Almost, this is a German family and a British family from
01:20:41World War I to World War II, massive span.
01:20:44My novel, The Future, of course, is, uh, an evil politician who's frozen, uh, comes to
01:20:51life in the future and is put on trial.
01:20:53It's like, it's all the vengeance that we want against corrupt politicians in the here
01:20:56and now, but we had to wait 500 years to get it.
01:20:59And also a very controversial use of violence in the protection of children called the angels,
01:21:05which you can, uh, read about in the novels.
01:21:09Very, very important stuff.
01:21:10And, uh, obviously, some of it's quite shocking and, uh, but, or at least in my mind, morally
01:21:16defensible.
01:21:17So, in all of my novels, though, I'm looking at the very early origins of the larger themes
01:21:25in the world.
01:21:27Because we can't fix the larger themes in the world directly, but we can improve people's
01:21:32childhoods.
01:21:32We can improve parenting.
01:21:34So, even in a huge continent-spanning novel that's, like, basically three novels called
01:21:42Almost, it comes back to childhood.
01:21:46And in my novel, The Future, you can't get a free world until you fix abusive parenting.
01:21:55And the fixing of abusive parenting is itself quite brutal.
01:21:59And that's important.
01:22:01And generally, it would be, right?
01:22:02So, so, I do want big grand themes that are exciting, they're exhilarating, but I also
01:22:09want the details in how we live and in particularly how we parent and how that influences, right?
01:22:15So, there is, there's no particular spoilers, there's a very evil character in my novel, The
01:22:22Future, and his evil is very hard to understand until you learn about his childhood.
01:22:33Now, this is not to say it's all determinism.
01:22:35There are still choices to be made.
01:22:37But the great evils in the world come out of the small evils in the home.
01:22:43Or rather to say, the great evils in the home produce all the evils in the world.
01:22:47And that really is the goal of what it is that I'm aiming to achieve.
01:22:52And the fact that people have read my novels, even something as abstract and futuristic as
01:22:56my novel, The Future, and have found practical, useful applications out of it is exactly what
01:23:04I'm looking for.
01:23:04So, I thank you for that feedback.
01:23:07You can get these books, of course, at freedomand.com slash books.
01:23:10They're free.
01:23:10And I hope that you will avail yourself of them.
01:23:12Honestly, just give it a try.
01:23:14Give it a try.
01:23:16Listen to the first, listen to the first few minutes.
01:23:21Listen to the first five or ten minutes of one of my novels and see.
01:23:26I actually just recorded a chapter of my new novel, which I'm working on at the moment
01:23:30when I can.
01:23:33And I will be putting that out so that you can get a sense of the kind of writing that
01:23:36I'm doing now, which is I'm always trying something different and new with every book.
01:23:40It's how I keep myself interested.
01:23:41And I think how I keep my creative juices flowing.
01:23:46So, thanks everyone for dropping by.
01:23:48I really do appreciate it.
01:23:49And I'm sorry if you had any technical issues hearing.
01:23:51But of course, it's all recorded here locally, at least my part.
01:23:54So, freedomand.com slash donate to help out the show.
01:23:58I really would appreciate that enormously, humbly, gratefully, and deeply.
01:24:03And also, you can go to fdrurl.com slash locals to sign up for a subscription.
01:24:08And through that, you get access to just some really wonderful and amazing goodies.
01:24:13We've trained a whole bunch of different AIs on, you know, thousands of hours and hundreds
01:24:18of pages of my material.
01:24:19It's multilingual.
01:24:20Also, if English isn't your first language, you can still get the benefits of the philosophical
01:24:25approach that I take through the AIs.
01:24:2712 hours on the history of the French Revolution and the meaning behind it.
01:24:31There is a 22-part History of Philosopher series, which is some of my greatest work and
01:24:36hundreds of premium shows that are a little bit too spicy for the mainstream.
01:24:40So, I hope you will check that out at fdrurl.com slash locals.
01:24:44All right, my friends, thank you for a glorious afternoon of philosophical chatting, and we
01:24:49will talk to you Wednesday night for a Wednesday Night Live.
01:24:52All the best.
01:24:53Bye.

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