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00:00Will that ever come out, do you think?
00:03You know, I think part of why Kamala's getting so much support
00:07is that if Trump wins, that F.C. and client list is going to become public.
00:12Yes.
00:14And some of those billionaires behind Kamala are terrified of that outcome.
00:18Yeah. Do you think Reid Hoffman's uncomfortable?
00:20Yes.
00:23And Gates.
00:24And Gates.
00:25Yeah.
00:26I only ask that because you can certainly just look at them and you're like,
00:29that's a nervous person right there.
00:31I don't know. I mean, I assume you know them.
00:33Yes. Reid Hoffman was my vice president of business development at PayPal.
00:37Yeah.
00:4024 years ago.
00:44Does he seem nervous to you?
00:49Yeah. I mean, he's terrified of a Trump victory.
00:52Because of the disclosure that would follow?
00:54I think, yeah. I mean, I think he's certainly ideologically
00:59not aligned with Trump anyway, but I think he is concerned about the Epstein situation.
01:07Yeah.
01:07We got to talk about Reid Hoffman because he recently went on a podcast and had some interesting
01:15things to say, especially after you guys just heard what Elon Musk had to say. Now,
01:22do I know whether or not he was on the list? I don't have a clue. Nobody does because we
01:28don't
01:28have the list, which is also quite crazy that we don't have the list of folks or there aren't more
01:36people at minimum in prison, which I guess if they were in prison on trial, we would know,
01:42you know, the names that were on the list. But still, it's crazy to think that there are
01:48celebrities and politicians and, you know, people who have run countries that have gone to that island and
01:57done some despicable things. And nobody's being held accountable for it. Quite wild, isn't it?
02:03Kind of interesting how the Democrats come out in here and say, nobody's above the law.
02:10Meanwhile, you know what? I'm going to leave that there. Let's check out what Reid Hoffman had to say.
02:17I've been called evil by a number of people on the left. Really? Yes, of course. Look,
02:22they are wrong that that is a necessary correlation, right? But I try to understand people. I understand
02:31their perspective. I disagree with it, but I understand it. I mean, you're one of the few
02:37people that's still a billionaire and on the left, it seems. No, I'm not. I actually—
02:42In the valley, especially in this election cycle. No, no, no.
02:45Well— It's the public-facing people that we see on the podcasts and stuff.
02:48Yes. Look, so part of the reason why I think less people were public about it this cycle was
02:57because, you know, President Trump was threatening, you know, personal and political retaliation.
03:05And so you had to have a certain degree of courage to stand up, right? And so encourage in the
03:11public
03:12area, not just encourage in taking risks and so forth, but in the public arena for doing that.
03:18And so I literally had conversations with billionaires who were like, oh, look, I really
03:21applaud what you're doing. And I think what you're doing is the right thing. And that's for you,
03:24not for me. Right. I mean, trying to get people into it. And so I was aware. And because they
03:31kind of did the simple mini max and they said, well, if Harris is elected, I won't get penalized
03:37for not having supportive. And if Trump is elected, I will get penalized. So I'm just going to stand
03:45out of it. And— Do you think you'll be penalized?
03:47Uh, I think that, uh, I think that there is a greater than—
03:51He said that, that if Kamala won, there would be nobody penalized. Oh, you mean, um, Elon Musk? So
03:59what's been happening with Elon Musk? The biggest EV maker wasn't invited to the big EV summit that,
04:06uh, Biden was at and invited all these different companies to, but the biggest maker of EVs wasn't
04:12invited Elon Musk? You don't think that was political? Kind of interesting. Hypocrisy is
04:18rich with that one, but carry on.
04:2050% chance that there will be, um, uh, repercussions, uh, from a misdirection and
04:28corruption of the institution's estate, uh, to, uh, respond to my having tried to help Harris get
04:37elected. You must spend time at night thinking about what that might be. Because if I would.
04:42Yeah. Well, look, it's a range. And look, I hope that it's only in the soft edge of the range,
04:48like IRS audits or phone calls like, you know, Trump made saying, you know, deny Bezos that,
04:55that DOD contract because, you know, he owns the Washington Post and I don't like him. You know,
05:01that kind of stuff. I hope it's in that arena. Right. Could get much worse, but I don't really
05:07want to speculate on it because I don't want to give anybody any ideas. Right. But like, I think it's
05:14like, I think I would safely win a bet that there will be political repercussions that are,
05:20that are essentially undemocratic on American, um, and direct on you and direct to me. Yes. Um,
05:27um, I, I think I'd safely win that bet. Um, I'm hoping that it's in the,
05:32what I'm terming the soft arena. Oh, you mean like what they did to Donald Trump the past four years?
05:42Kind of interesting, isn't it? You're not planning on leaving the US, are you? No, no. Uh, well,
05:46my residence outside of Seattle and, you know, we have a constitution, you know, that kind of thing.
05:51Because Mark Cuban was the same, right? Mark Cuban was very public and vocal. He's a billionaire. He was
05:55very pro Kamala Harris, very anti Trump through the cycle. He took a lot of flack as well. Yes.
06:00I mean, I follow everybody on Twitter, so I watched it play out and it was kind of like he
06:04was stood in
06:04no man's land, just taking shots from everywhere. Yes. And you were kind of in the same category.
06:08Yes, exactly. Would have been much easier for you to just
06:12shut the fuck up or fall in line or something. Yes, exactly. Well, but that's the problem. You can't allow
06:16that form of neo-fascism, right? It's precisely when you feel fear. I have huge respect for Mark Cuban.
06:22When you feel fear, stand up because that fear that you're feeling, that's your feeling as a powerful,
06:28wealthy person, right? And if you're not going to stand up, who is? Oh, we are. And we stood up
06:37and we spoke loud and clear. Um, get out of here. That's what we said to Democrats in the Democrat
06:45party. Get out of here. Okay. Uh, every state minus two, I believe shifted, right? Shifted,
06:53right? Trump came within a million votes in California, almost flipped New Jersey. Okay.
07:03Came close to the place like New Hampshire, Virginia. All right. Swept all the swing states,
07:11flipped counties that haven't voted red in, in, in years, decades, decades. Trump won them, flipped them red.
07:25Just saying, just saying, it's funny how these people, you know,
07:32talk about, Oh, Trump may go after this person or that person. And it was all fun and games when
07:39they were all going after Trump, right? And Trump, they, Trump was on the ropes, you know,
07:45because you got Trump in this court and he's got to go to that court and this court over here.
07:49And
07:49he's got to spend money doing this and spend money doing that, spend money hopping on the plane.
07:53Like they were literally trying to bankrupt this man and throw him underneath the jail.
07:59But we, we all heard, we all used to, uh, we all have heard the saying it's all fun and
08:04games until
08:05the rabbits got the gun. Proverbial gun. I'm not talking about a real one just for anybody. I
08:10don't want nobody to twist my words. Oh my goodness. He talking about, no, no, no. It's just a saying.
08:15I don't mean harming anybody literally. Okay. Um, but it's all fun and games until it gets flipped
08:22around and kind of interesting how that works. I'm going to be bringing one against, uh, the people
08:29in Iowa, their newspaper, which had a very, very good pollster who got me right all the time.
08:35And then just before the election, she said I was going to lose by three or four points and
08:40it became the biggest story all over the world because I was going to win Iowa by 20 points.
08:47The farmers love me and I love the farmers. And it was interesting the way she did it.
08:51She brought it down two weeks before she said I was going to only win by four. That was a
08:55big strike.
08:56But that was good because she brought it down from like 22 points to four or whatever the number was
09:02way up, way up, easy win. Never even thought to go there. I respect them. I love them. And they
09:08understand there's no reason to go there because she brought it from way up, walk away, which it was,
09:14and it turned out to be in the election too, by the way, it was a win by many, many
09:18points.
09:19And then she brought it down very smartly to four a couple of weeks before. And everyone said,
09:25wow, that's amazing. He's only up by four points. Then she brought it down to where I was down by
09:30three or four, whatever number she used. And that was the Des Moines Register. And it was their parent.
09:39And in my opinion, it was fraud. And it was election interference. You know,
09:43she's gotten me right always. She's a very good pollster. She knows what she was doing.
09:47And she then quit before. And we'll probably be filing a major lawsuit against them today or tomorrow.
09:53We're filing one on 60 Minutes, you know about that, where they took Kamala's answer,
09:58which was a crazy answer, a horrible answer. And they took the whole answer out and they replaced
10:05it with something else she said later on. Yeah. Ain't no fun when the rabbits got it, right?
10:15When things get flipped on their heads and now it's coming after you.
10:21Speaking of that, and he alluded to this a little bit there in that video clip you saw,
10:28Donald Trump is set to, um, sue the poster and seltzer. All right. The poster who predicted
10:37Iowa would be won by, by presidential candidate Kamala Harris a day before the November election
10:44has revealed how she has been surprised by backlash. Speaking on, in addition of
10:50PBS Iowa press and seltzer defended her polling methods and hit back at critics who said she
10:56should be investigated. I am mystified by, I am mystified about the motivation anybody thinks I had
11:04and would act on in such a public poll. She said Friday, I don't understand it. And the allegations
11:09I take very seriously, they're saying that this was election interference, which is a crime. The idea
11:15that I initially set up to deliver this response went, I've never done that before. I've had plenty
11:21of opportunities to do it. It's not my ethic. The poll that shocked online communities and people
11:26across America showed the Democrats winning by three points. Uh, among those who accused seltzer of
11:33electoral fraud was president elect Donald Trump, a totally fake poll that caused great distrust and
11:38uncertainty at a very critical time. He said, after he had won, she knew exactly what she was doing.
11:44Thank you to the great people of Iowa for giving me such a great record breaking vote,
11:48despite possible election fraud by Ann Seltzer. And now the discredited newspaper for which she works
11:55and investigation is fully called for. Hey, listen, I agree. If you did nothing wrong,
12:03why are you worried about having an investigation? Nobody said you're going to get charged with
12:07anything. Nobody said that, uh, um, you know, we're going to put you in prison. They just simply
12:12said, Hey, we're going to investigate this. We're going to look into things. How in the world did this
12:17happen? You know, I agree with that. I agree with it. And anybody who doesn't agree, I, what,
12:24why, what do you have to hide if there's nothing there? You know, it's the same thing with, um,
12:29Reed Hoffman. What do you have to hide? Why are you concerned with an IRS audit?
12:34Are you above IRS audits? Hmm? I'm just saying, I mean, it was actually your party,
12:42the Democrat party that wanted more IRS agents. Correct. You guys remember that whole story where
12:48they wanted to hire 80,000 more IRS agents. So it was your party that wanted that and pushed for
12:54that.
12:55So, Hey, put the IRS agents to use and have them audit you. What's wrong with that? Just
13:02investigating, just checking on things, making sure things are on the up and up. Same thing with Ann
13:07Seltzer. Let's make sure there was no collusion. Let's make sure she didn't, um, you know, receive a
13:14couple of dollars, receive some of that dinero in exchange for, you know, a fluff piece poll right
13:25before the elect, right before the election. Let's just make sure nobody exchange money or favors
13:32for, um, propaganda right before an election. I'm just saying nothing wrong with investigating that.
13:38But you know, apparently these folks are so scared. Oh my goodness. Trump bad. He's gonna,
13:43he's investigating. He's looking into things. Okay. Y'all look to this man. Y'all, they have
13:47looked into this man's entire life. They know, they know what color draws this man wears,
13:53what socks he wears. The, the one, they know which sock he puts on his left foot, which one he
13:58puts
13:58on his right. They know everything about this man. And it's all of a sudden now wrong that he's
14:04investigating them. Interesting how that works. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm gonna sit back
14:12and, um, eat my popcorn and enjoy the show. What say you? Peace and love. I'm out.
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