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00:00What are some masterpieces that you just don't quite understand?
00:05We asked this as the question of the day today after that no-hitter last night where
00:10I know somebody referred to it directly as a no-hitter, or as I should say, as a masterpiece to
00:15you,
00:15but it might go down in history, too, as, you know, this great no-hitter,
00:20no-hit the Rangers, EMA 6, no-hit innings.
00:23But if you actually watch it, it's like, eh, it wasn't all that crap.
00:27Was it good for you?
00:28Was it good for you?
00:30So let us know on the text line, 713-572-4610, what are some masterpieces that the general consensus
00:37might feel like some masterpiece, but you don't necessarily agree with?
00:40I'm curious in y'all's answers here, because there are some things that movies, music, actors,
00:48you know, all kinds of things.
00:50You are wearing a Pink Floyd shirt as we speak, which means you read the rundown early.
00:55Don't you be disrespectful.
00:58Pink Floyd, I don't get it, and this comes from someone whose middle son is just an absolute
01:05freak about, or used to be, I guess, I haven't asked him lately, but about Pink Floyd, I'm
01:10like, I don't understand how they're like this.
01:14What don't you understand?
01:15It's not good to me.
01:17It's just not good to me.
01:19Hello, hello, hello.
01:22Is there anybody out there?
01:24Yeah, I'm right here, man.
01:25That sounds pretty good.
01:26Yeah.
01:26It sounds good.
01:27I don't know what you're talking about.
01:31Modern jazz.
01:34And again, I understand, I'm not a musician, but the notes don't go together.
01:40They just don't go together, and I don't understand that.
01:44I mentioned a couple earlier, but here's an old school one that I just thought of during
01:49the break.
01:50Julia Roberts.
01:52Oh, she's beautiful.
01:54She's the Mona Lisa of actresses.
01:57I'm actually with you on this.
01:58She's got a big mouth and a hooked nose.
02:00Oh, my gosh.
02:01Okay.
02:02Maybe I'm going to move away from supporting the day.
02:05Luke said he's with me.
02:06Luke said he's with me.
02:07You heard him, didn't you, Figgy?
02:08Yep.
02:08You heard him.
02:09He said he's with me.
02:10She's got a big mouth and a hooked nose.
02:12I mean, she's attractive.
02:14You know, the old, I wouldn't kick her out of bed.
02:15You know, I get that.
02:16I get that because she's, you know, tall, you know, attractive physically and all that.
02:21But everybody who says, like, Julia Roberts, perfection.
02:26I am with you on that.
02:27I never understood why she seemed to be, like, on a pedestal so much higher than everybody
02:32else.
02:33There's a joke in King of Queens, a show that I love, where Doug's having a hard time
02:37performing.
02:37And he says that to his wife, like, I couldn't even make love to Julia Roberts right now.
02:41And I watched that episode and thinking, like, why is that the name they want?
02:44That's the one?
02:44Yeah, like, really?
02:45That's the person?
02:46That wouldn't be number one if I was in that scenario.
02:49So, yeah, I am with you on that.
02:50Yeah, I would say, I guess I would use the phrase overrated, I think, with her and her
02:55stock.
02:55But they consider her.
02:56What are some masterpieces?
02:58How about for you?
02:58Music, whatever.
02:59Yeah, I know.
03:00Do we have enough time today?
03:02There's a lot.
03:03I'm known amongst my family and friends of being a very tough critic with movies.
03:07I think, yeah, Sean said it earlier, and I agree, like the Coen brothers.
03:11There's, like, two of their movies I like.
03:13The rest of them, I think, stink.
03:14And I've made this.
03:15Actually, this was a confession, I think, months ago, that really most of the directors, these highly
03:19acclaimed directors, I don't really get it for a lot of them.
03:22I think a lot of them are overrated.
03:24I think Quentin Tarantino is overrated.
03:25I was going to say Quentin Tarantino.
03:26He's done, like, three good movies.
03:27Yeah.
03:28Yeah.
03:28And it's like, people always talk.
03:30So, for me, it goes in line with the directors.
03:32Anything that's, like, real artsy.
03:34I don't get art in general, any paintings.
03:36Somebody tapes a banana to a wall, and that's, like, a masterpiece.
03:39I don't get it.
03:40But what I said earlier, too, like, musicals, anything that's real artsy, or anything that's
03:44kind of like Rush, where it's the musician's band, or any movie where they're like, oh,
03:49it was so artsy.
03:50Like, you would only get it if you were, whatever, into art or if you're a critic.
03:54I hate all that stuff.
03:55Anything that's too artsy.
03:56So, there's a lot of movies, a lot of music, really all art, I have to admit.
04:00I'm not into that people claim are masterpieces.
04:02I look at a painting, and I just don't get it.
04:04Yeah.
04:05Yeah, I got a nice little list, too.
04:07I'm going to start speaking to musicals, Hamilton.
04:10Yes, thank you.
04:11I just don't get it.
04:12My wife loves Hamilton, to the point she'd be in the car listening to the damn soundtrack.
04:17And she'd be like, remember that song?
04:19No.
04:19Yeah, I'm just like, it don't do nothing for me, man.
04:22I think I got into it with Larry Stafford one time, because he's a big Hamilton guy.
04:26And he was trying to explain to me, no, you got to understand.
04:29I'm like, man, I just can't understand it.
04:31I'm sorry, I'm not a musical person anyway.
04:34A sports one real quick.
04:35I never understood Jay Cutler love at all.
04:39Really?
04:39I never understood it.
04:40And then it got to a point, remembering that some teams tried to get him out of retirement
04:44to come play?
04:45Yeah.
04:45It might have been.
04:46Yeah, the Dolphins.
04:46Yeah.
04:47I'm just like, man, he is not that good, where you got to get him off the couch.
04:51I just never understood that.
04:53This one y'all going to hate me for, Seinfeld.
04:56Oh.
04:58I respect that.
04:59I do.
05:00I respect it a lot.
05:01But I just don't get it, man.
05:03I just, I don't laugh how y'all laugh at these episodes.
05:07I love it.
05:08I'm sorry.
05:09That's a good one, though.
05:10Yeah.
05:10That is a good one.
05:11Bam's 83-point game.
05:13Mm-hmm.
05:13Oh, yeah.
05:14I think in real time, I was kind of like, ooh, like, is this real?
05:17Mm-hmm.
05:18But after a while, I was just like, man, we ain't got to keep talking about this.
05:21That's a good one.
05:22Yeah.
05:22I'm with you on that.
05:23Yeah.
05:23That was ridiculous.
05:24Yeah.
05:25This one is kind of similar to the no-hit game from the hashtag.
05:28Right.
05:28Exactly.
05:29But you mentioned Julia Roberts.
05:31Mm-hmm.
05:31I feel that way about Sidney Sweetie.
05:33Oh, yeah.
05:34And you're not alone.
05:35I said it.
05:36Y'all tore me up for this.
05:37Yeah.
05:37I'm like, she's cool.
05:39Mm-hmm.
05:39She ain't all, like, let's drool over this girl cool.
05:43Yeah.
05:43Like, I just.
05:44You're not alone.
05:45Yeah.
05:45There are a lot of people, and I'm like, I don't understand it, because I think she's gorgeous.
05:50Certainly more so than Julia Roberts.
05:52She's just a cute, she's a cute girl.
05:54Big mouth and a hook nose, man.
05:56Big mouth and a hook nose.
05:57And then the last one, I might get some little pushback on this one, and I respect this guy
06:01a lot, especially his earlier work.
06:03Mm-hmm.
06:04But as a recent, Spike Lee.
06:06Yes.
06:07That goes in line with my, that's another director.
06:10I just don't get it.
06:11As a recent.
06:11Now, I know he did Malcolm X.
06:13And all the classic movies in the 90s, and maybe the late 80s.
06:17Mm-hmm.
06:17But as a recent, whenever I hear, ooh, Spike Lee, he directed this, it's never good, man.
06:23I can't remember the last time he did something that was really good.
06:25No, that's fair.
06:26And a lot of people think he's the master, you know, a masterpiece.
06:29Yeah.
06:29And I respect him a lot, man.
06:31Yeah.
06:31But I just, I just don't get it.
06:33Some things, and a texter reminded me of this, the 504.
06:38Some comedians are slapstick or prop-driven or whatever, I don't, that are considered like
06:44geniuses in the arts.
06:45With the puppets.
06:46And stuff like that, I don't, because somebody said Happy Gilmore and Adam Sandler.
06:50And I get that.
06:51I personally liked both of those, but I get like, like stand-up comics that are prop-driven.
06:57Yeah.
06:57I just, I'm like, ah.
06:59Yeah, I agree.
07:00I don't know if anybody would call Happy Gilmore a masterpiece, though.
07:03Yeah.
07:03What do you call any comedy film a masterpiece?
07:05I don't know.
07:06Adam Sandler in general, though, obviously he's kind of like Spike Lee.
07:09A lot of these guys get successful and they just kind of rest on their laurels.
07:12Adam Sandler hasn't come out with a good movie in like 20 years.
07:14I'll give you that.
07:15But I do think he's incredibly talented.
07:16He's a good musician.
07:17And when he actually acts in serious roles, like Rain Over Me or Uncut Gems.
07:21Uncut Gems.
07:21Yeah.
07:21You can see, like, he's actually a really good actor, too.
07:23He's not just this goofy guy.
07:25So I'll push back on the Sandler hate.
07:27I think he's very talented.
07:28You were talking about Hamilton, Figgy.
07:30Honestly, my wife and daughter, more so my daughter, but they were counting down the
07:35minutes until Wicked hit whatever it was, Netflix or whatever.
07:40It might have been HBO.
07:42Anyway, one of the apps finally released it after it was in theaters.
07:45And so I sat down.
07:47I said, well, you know, I like, you know, obviously, you know, the premise and everything else and
07:52the old school movie and all that stuff.
07:54I couldn't get through 20 minutes.
07:56I was just sitting there going, this is awful.
07:59Yeah.
07:59How can people love this?
08:01You know, Wicked?
08:02Ugh.
08:03Yeah.
08:04Hey, give me the Wizard of Oz.
08:05That one I can get down with.
08:07Yeah, I can roll with the Wizard of Oz, put on some Pink Floyd.
08:11That's right.
08:11Yes.
08:12Hey, shout out to the listener who told me that.
08:14He said, hey, you got to watch the Wizard of Oz with the Pink Floyd.
08:19I will say I do prefer the wall over Dark Side of the Moon, but still, it's all great.
08:24Don't hate on Pink Floyd.
08:28On the text line, someone said The Shining, absolute snooze fest.
08:32The Shining's actually one of my favorite movies.
08:34I like The Shining.
08:35I'm disappointed by that.
08:36Of the classics like that, sometimes they're considered, it's like, you know, they said
08:41the musician's musician.
08:42Right.
08:42Like the director's director and the actor's actor, you know, it's almost like, it's almost
08:47like they're pandering to real people.
08:51Oh, you don't understand.
08:52No.
08:53Oh, you don't understand.
08:54Like somebody's talking about jazz music.
08:55Oh, right.
08:55Well, the reason that they're not joined together is because the opening leaves room for other
08:59musicians and interpretation.
09:01I'm like, I don't care.
09:02I want to hear it.
09:02I want to hear like everything.
09:04But what was the movie I was thinking of?
09:08The classic, oh God, I can't remember now, but one of those old classic movies, I'm like,
09:12I don't see it.
09:14I don't get it.
09:15Along those similar lines, I've always thought Forrest Gump is overrated.
09:18I don't like Forrest Gump.
09:20Well, I shouldn't say I don't like it.
09:21I just don't think it's all that great.
09:22Yeah.
09:23What about kind of back to sports?
09:26Russell Westbrook, his triple-double for the year.
09:30Remember he had?
09:30Averaging the triple-double?
09:31Yeah.
09:32I felt like, I thought that was, it's kind of saying to Bam's 83-point game, I thought
09:36it was cool in real time because I'd never seen it in my lifetime, but now it's kind
09:41of like, man, I don't really, you know, it don't really move me like that.
09:45Well, a lot of movies like that, you know, it's open for interpretation, but the ones
09:51that are considered masterpieces, this is a great one.
09:54I am on the side where I think he was genius, but a lot of people just can't get down
09:59with
09:59Robin, or couldn't get down with Robin West.
10:02I thought he was a genius.
10:03Yeah, he's a legend in my book.
10:05Yeah, but there are a lot of people like that.
10:07He was funny and said, yeah, no, I get it.
10:08Yeah, that's an interesting one.
10:10I don't know, I'm kind of on the fence.
10:11I liked Robin Williams, but part of me also felt like, again, I don't know if I want to
10:16say overrated, but a lot of it was just that goofiness.
10:18He was like known to kind of steal jokes during his stand-up or his performances.
10:23So I don't know, I'm kind of conflicted with Robin Williams.
10:25He had a great career, and I love a lot of his work.
10:27But part of me, too, is also like, he's just kind of annoying, making all these, like,
10:30being goofy and making all these noises.
10:32Yeah, this one I really don't rock with as well, the Family Matters, the TV show Family
10:37Matters.
10:38I'm not a fan of it, man.
10:41I stumbled across an episode, like, two Saturdays ago, just flipping through the channels, and
10:45it was on, and I watched it, and I was like, man, I haven't seen this in years.
10:48It was great.
10:49It's still a hotel.
10:49I disagree.
10:50I push back, Figgy.
10:52I don't see how it's a masterpiece, man.
10:54Well, we're getting so many, and maybe you can quibble about whether it's a masterpiece,
11:00but I do remember when Napoleon Dynamite came out, people were saying, what a brilliant
11:06way to do it, wasn't it some young students in Utah or something put together as a project
11:10and ended up getting nominated, I believe, and all that?
11:13Like, it was this great, groundbreaking, you know, different way of doing movies, and
11:17I was like, it has its moments.
11:19You know, we still quote certain things about Napoleon Dynamite throwing the ball a quarter
11:23mile and all that, but it wasn't that good a movie.
11:25It really wasn't.
11:26I loved it growing up.
11:27I was one of those people, and then I did watch it as an adult, and I was like, yeah.
11:32Yeah, I don't know if it holds up.
11:33I think it was just because I was in, like, middle school at the time, and it was, like,
11:36goofy and silly.
11:37Oh, Selena.
11:39Come on, man.
11:41Come on.
11:42She broke.
11:43Where the hell are you from?
11:44She was groundbreaking.
11:47Groundbreaking.
11:47Erin Brockovich.
11:49Yeah.
11:49Yeah, that was one that was nominated as well.
11:51And star Julia Roberts.
11:53The one with the big mouth and the hook nose.
11:55Yeah, that's right.
11:55What has she done anyways?
11:57What good movies has she been in anyways?
12:01Sports-related.
12:01Someone said the Rockets' winning streak, while cool, we always felt deep down it wasn't
12:05going to translate to an NBA championship.
12:07Mm-hmm.
12:07So, yeah.
12:08Which one was that?
12:09Oh, this season?
12:10Mm-hmm.
12:11What about the 13 points in 13 seconds with Tracy McGrady?
12:17People still referenced it like it was this miraculous, unbelievable.
12:21I thought that was a masterpiece.
12:23You do?
12:24Yeah, I think so.
12:25I think maybe my kind of appreciation is tarnished because of what that season ended up being.
12:31Really?
12:31Okay.
12:31You know, they didn't, I don't think they got out of the second round in that series.
12:36Yeah.
12:36That season.
12:37Kind of reminds me, too, like the Reggie Miller one at MSG, whatever that, just won a bunch
12:41of points.
12:41He went right to the three-point line and turned around and shot him.
12:45Yeah.
12:45And then he, like, if I remember correctly, I think he, like, pushed somebody down and they
12:48threw him the ball.
12:49I was like, that should have been a foul.
12:50And then they just passed him the ball, but the Knicks, you know, turned it over, just
12:53threw it right to Reggie, like, hit a three.
12:55It's not that impressive.
12:56When you go back and actually watch it, it's like, eh.
12:59Overrated.
13:00Yeah.
13:00It wasn't that great.
13:00What about the Willie Mays over the shoulder catch?
13:04Okay, that's a really, really good one.
13:06A lot of people have been bringing that one up.
13:08It still is mentioned as the greatest catch in history.
13:11And here's where I always qualify it as, and this is me being a jazz music nerd, people
13:17who criticize that, like, well, we see that catch all the time.
13:20You do, in parks where center field is 400 feet, that was at the polo grounds, and he
13:26went on a full 60-yard sprint.
13:28That was, center field was 500 feet.
13:31I mean, he was, like, the appreciation to that, I think that is a masterpiece, simply
13:35because if you understand the context, like, that wasn't just, like, he runs, you know,
13:4020 feet and makes an over-the-shoulder catch, which we do see a lot of.
13:44Dude, watch it again.
13:45He went, like, full bore, 4.440, straight to center field and caught it over his shoulder
13:51and then made the throw.
13:53It was a masterpiece.
13:54Yeah.
13:54Yeah.
13:54I tend to agree.
13:55I do love this text, though, from the 281, because I've been saying this for years, and
13:59it seems like I'm usually in the minority.
14:01Christmas story.
14:02Oh, a Christmas story?
14:03Yeah.
14:04Is it Christmas story?
14:04That's the one with Ralphie, you'll shoot your eye out?
14:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:06Oh, I thought that movie was always so boring, and this texter says, boring to me, can never
14:11watch the whole thing.
14:12I agree with you.
14:12I don't know why we give it 24 hours on, like, TNT.
14:15They do the 24-hour marathon on Christmas.
14:17There's so many better Christmas movies to play for 24 hours than that stupid thing.
14:22Okay.
14:23Yeah.
14:23We're finding out a lot today.
14:25Someone said Meryl Streep is straight ass.
14:27Okay.
14:28Damn.
14:29I don't agree, but okay.
14:31Well, that's another one.
14:32I put that in the same camp as Julia Roberts, where when people use an actress as, like,
14:37the greatest actress of all time, they always reference Meryl Streep, and maybe she was
14:40before my time, but that's always one that I wonder of, like, how come that's always
14:44the example you use when talking about, like, the greatest actress of all time?
14:48Yeah.
14:49I don't know.
14:49Maybe I'm in the minority.
14:50I never thought, when I was, if I'm thinking of greatest actresses, I don't think I would
14:54immediately jump to Meryl Streep.
14:56They also said Barbra Streisand.
14:58Straight ass.
14:59Oh, ass.
15:00Oh, ass.
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